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Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 33112	Posted - 2015.12.17 18:52:39 - [1] - Quote This Noisy article deserves a read, and I think this topic deserves a discussion: Would you recommend EVE to people, and why? http://nosygamer.blogspot.com/2015/12/what-is-chief-customer-officer.html Help, I can't download EVE President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 33112	Posted - 2015.12.17 18:56:20 - [2] - Quote Damn is it Noizy or Nosy Help, I can't download EVE President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
Gareth Mythros One Man Show Mining Inc. 0	Posted - 2015.12.17 19:19:51 - [3] - Quote I've recommended EVE to people that I know for a certain fact are mature enough to handle it. I would definitely not recommend this game for anyone under 18, at the youngest. However, there are real-life lessons that can be learned here. VS other MMO's, there's no comparison when it comes to complexity, and it requires careful forethought and planning that just isn't necessary with any other game. EVE is a game with consequences, and that's a real rarity in a gaming world overwhelmed with shooters with 1-minute respawn timers. EVE emphasizes situational awareness, character judgement, money management, and conservative thinking. I've been a hisec, non-pvp-focused player since 2006 (with large gaps due to military service), and while it might be argued by many here that I've missed out on the bulk of the "real EVE experience", I think I've learned a lot from the game, and had a lot of fun besides.
Unsuccessful At Everything the troll bridge 23400	Posted - 2015.12.17 19:20:37 - [4] - Quote Quote: One observation that caught my attention was that DICE relied too much on the forums for feedback and that a better system was needed. The solution that DICE came up with was the Net Promoter Score. Sigh, the death of one of my loves of Eve, and the return of my nemesis from my Insurance company days. I always recommend Eve to people. The only problem i run into is that people are more tempted towards the instant gratification games where you can buy endgame gear and a lvl gorillion character from the cash shop, or games where you can 720 backflip no-scope headshot a guy off the eiffel tower and then land in the pilot seat of a jet and bomb a freaking shark. Now, if CCP were to bring Legion and Valkyrie to the table as well ( you know, having all games playable across a single platform and all that jazz), there would be a much better draw for newer players as you would be satisfying the FPS/Flight itch as well as the sandbox itch.. but alas we digress into repeated bludgeoning of a deceased equine with that, especially if we were to want them to be integrated into Eve in order to compete with SC when its released in 2024 [bludgeoning intensifies]. Eve is a sandbox of epic proportions where there is room for the good, the bad, the in-between, and god forbid.. the bloody neutrals. *Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?*
Demolishar United Aggression 1068	Posted - 2015.12.17 19:26:12 - [5] - Quote Yeah cos I get a PLEX if they sub.
Persephone Alleile Nocx Initiative 77	Posted - 2015.12.17 20:16:44 - [6] - Quote I don't recommend EVE to my friends because I don't have any.
Mr Epeen It's All About Me 9639	Posted - 2015.12.17 20:25:18 - [7] - Quote I only recommend EVE to my internet 'friends'. You know, the people I don't care much about. I'd never recommend it to my RL friends as I'd like to keep them as friends. Mr Epeen There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
Solecist Project The Scope Gallente Federation 27844	Posted - 2015.12.17 21:12:26 - [8] - Quote I would, if they'd be interested in doing something actually worthwhile. TV makes people dumb. I identify as Sol-kin and I oppose all WiSgender because the white priviledged spacists just want to oppress me with their Avatariarchy. Once the carebears are eradicated, I will stand before them, screaming... THE GAME ! (: You lost... :)
Gregor Parud Ordo Ardish 1836	Posted - 2015.12.17 21:38:29 - [9] - Quote Getting a bit tired of all these agenda pushing blog sites. Can't be bothered to read it. Either way: no, not at the moment. Until CCP decides on a course and acts accordingly I can't recommend EVE. As MMO's go this one is a long term investment of sorts and if you don't trust the powers that be to make decisions that stroke with what EVE stood, and perhaps still stands, for then to me that's bad. Lots of good stuff has happened but also things where I just have to wonder what the hell they were thinking. T3D, the whole skill trading, some of the UI updates they're working on but also the overall dumbing down of EVE. To me the big one is skill trading because if that happens then that's a first step towards terribleness. Something I'm not interested in.
Top Guac Mexican Avacado Syndicate 56	Posted - 2015.12.17 21:42:16 - [10] - Quote Most of my friends are too soft.
SurrenderMonkey Space Llama Industries 1348	Posted - 2015.12.17 21:44:32 - [11] - Quote ...which people? Eve is a niche game and, generally when I recommend something to someone, I do so based on the belief that they will enjoy it, and not the fact that I enjoy it. I like single-player roguelikes. My buddy refuses to play any game that isn't multiplayer. I don't recommend single player roguelikes to him. So, yeah, there are people to whom I would recommend Eve, and others for whom I would most definitely NOT. "Help, I'm bored with missions!" http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/
Memphis Baas 815	Posted - 2015.12.17 22:06:26 - [12] - Quote I recommend EVE to those I think will like EVE. Unfortunately, the headcount for my circle of friends has remained constant for a few years now, so that has resulted in no recommendations. If you're asking in a round-about way for opinions about the game, I think that what they've done with subcapitals so far has been pretty good, but unfortunately the game feels incomplete (and lacking end-game play) until they release their rework of capital ships. And as far as the microtransactions fluff, to me it feels like whoever's making the decisions has no clue. Compared to SWTOR's "Cartel Market", the NEX store is a joke, both in the number of items available and in the way we can accumulate them in-game.
Gregor Parud Ordo Ardish 1837	Posted - 2015.12.17 22:25:16 - [13] - Quote Memphis Baas wrote: And as far as the microtransactions fluff, to me it feels like whoever's making the decisions has no clue. Compared to SWTOR's "Cartel Market", the NEX store is a joke, both in the number of items available and in the way we can accumulate them in-game. CCP could have made a killing, and for a long time now, if only they would have decided to do it right. Instead they chose shittiness and half arsed solutions. I'm happy to spend money on EVE but only if what they're offering makes sense, shows insight and commitment. Terrible "fill all" textures that cost lol amount of money don't persuade me. It's the same with those new Mordu skins. I'll never buy 28 plex (lol) and I don't care about the ship or its skin but it's yet another case of lack of decisiveness and communication. Someone made a remark about it a week ago about how CCP should clarify that such skins would only be available with high volume plex sales. THEN it would have created a pull but nope: they chose to just do "whatever" and stay silent so the people who are genuinely interested don't trust the market value of those skins because for all we know it we might get them for free for Christmas, who the **** knows. It's such a missed opportunity.
Ginnie School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 58	Posted - 2015.12.17 22:41:05 - [14] - Quote Yes. It's challenging (from multiple perspectives) and very different from other MMORPGs. All that we see or seem is but a dream within a dream. -Edgar Allan Poe
Evasive Shadow Assassin Entropy VS Chaos 1066	Posted - 2015.12.17 22:41:36 - [15] - Quote Persephone Alleile wrote: I don't recommend EVE to my friends because I don't have any. This Don't forget to spread word about the EvE Online New Player Guide, 50+ videos and counting, let's get more and more players into this amazing game!
Paranoid Loyd 7761	Posted - 2015.12.17 22:44:16 - [16] - Quote Evasive Shadow Assassin wrote: This After your performance yesterday, everyone already knows. "Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata Fix the Prospect!
Johan Civire Caldari Provisions Caldari State 1039	Posted - 2015.12.17 22:51:25 - [17] - Quote already have done it. The quit eve to boring. Yep the need to hold there hands like world of warcraft. Perhaps (a new idea) to make some sort of "quest" system. That keep those new people buzzy.
TigerXtrm KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 1328	Posted - 2015.12.17 23:00:43 - [18] - Quote I'd recommend it, but EVE has its complexity and it's subscription fee working against itself. Whenever I try to convince someone to play this game (because it's so unique and awesome) I inevitably end up explaining that it does cost 15 dollars a month (or an ungodly amount of grinding) and that it's a game that requires long term (time) investments. And as much as people like the sound of EVE and want to try it, those two things are enough to put most people off. Not to mention the complexity of joining a corp and all the other weirdly complex interactions we have in EVE. I'm always sort of reluctant to explain the average corp's recruiting process to someone because I simply KNOW they won't understand and think that's insane (which, honestly, it kinda is). So yeah... I'd recommend it to people in a heart beat but actually convincing them to try it, that's hard. My YouTube Channel - EVE Tutorials & other game related things! My Website - Blogs, Livestreams & Forums
Mister Ripley Ministry of War Amarr Empire 102	Posted - 2015.12.17 23:52:38 - [19] - Quote I would if could instantly play with my friends instead of spending 2 hours on settings so we can actauly see the same thing in market and space.
Jenshae Chiroptera 2442	Posted - 2015.12.18 00:04:39 - [20] - Quote I no longer recommend EVE. It annoys people. They don't have the patience to skill up to do some of the stuff that I do. They find it slow and boring. I think EVE is on a downward slope, it is losing depth to be less complex, which bores the veterans and still won't attract the plebs. CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids There are other ways to fix Null Sec stagnation and Fozzie SOV is the wrong approach.
Candi LeMew Isogen 5 38269	Posted - 2015.12.18 01:00:35 - [21] - Quote No game like it. I always try to drag friends, family and workmates into EVE. Not always successfully though as it takes patience and sometimes a serious degree of commitment to enjoy fully and most people I know are very casual gamers. I keep recommending it though, for all its ups and downs it's still the best game I ever played. You can have experiences here that you just won't get in any other game. n-â fruít-¦-âwl lík-ö h-âm-ö =ƒìî Remember... in Anoikis Bob Is Always Watching... "I been kicked out of better homes than this" - Rick James
Paul Pohl blue media poetry 71	Posted - 2015.12.18 01:09:02 - [22] - Quote I do recommend it
Max Muni Muni Corp 3	Posted - 2015.12.18 01:11:13 - [23] - Quote No, the game is for a very specific type of techie person, and EXTREMELY boring for anyone else. Also, it's far too harsh of a community for most casuals to enjoy.
Legion Masser Rage-Machine 50	Posted - 2015.12.18 01:34:31 - [24] - Quote I only recommend EVE to the friends living in my head cuz those pricks are the only ones crazy enough to pay for game time just to lvl skills GÿóGÿóGÿóGÿóGÿóGÿóGÿó- Your Anger is a Gift -GÿóGÿóGÿóGÿóGÿóGÿóGÿó Do you even Titan? GÿóGÿóGÿó Potato GÿóGÿóGÿóLemonGÿóGÿóGÿó
Rain6637 GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 33114	Posted - 2015.12.18 04:16:59 - [25] - Quote Max Muni wrote: No, the game is for a very specific type of techie person, and EXTREMELY boring for anyone else. Also, it's far too harsh of a community for most casuals to enjoy. That's such a good point, that it's too much of a culture shock for some people. Not really something useful for a CCP community analyst person to hear, but man. If a person doesn't understand that things on the internet are not real life, the playerbase is a bit much. Help, I can't download EVE President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
Caleb Seremshur Gladiators of Rage RAZOR Alliance 719	Posted - 2015.12.18 06:54:56 - [26] - Quote I couldn't recommend it to someone in its current state. My sub lapses in april myself and I was on 6 month cycles. I have questions about the game with no answers surfacing. I've been asking them for a long time. Maybe I'll find my answers. If I can't then I probably won't return. Veteran and solo/small gang PVP advocate.
Otso Bakarti Filial Pariahs 553	Posted - 2015.12.18 07:40:33 - [27] - Quote My invitation is extended only with regard to how long I have to stand there and make excuses, sound like an apologist (fanboi) and explain away things - leaving the invitee with a smart "hope with me for the future" ending. With EVE, alas, it's like inviting someone to an ailment you've become accustomed to - coming to admire your own limp. There is no other game, LOTRO, SWTOR, GW2, FFXIV, that I play which I'd have to go through such geriatrics to cover myself so when this "friend" gets in-game I don't look like a blithering idiot for having suggested it in the first place. Since EVE is my first love in gaming history, this is recounting a tragedy...now I'm going to go get drunk and stare at my EVEMon counter as it ticks away Light Drone Operation V. THAT, my friend, is dedication. Furthermore, I really don't want my friends thinking I'm insane...any more than they already do. There just isn't anything that can be said!
Lucas Kell Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance 6970	Posted - 2015.12.18 07:57:53 - [28] - Quote No, because I know they won''t be interested in it and certainly won't be interested in a monthly subscription for it. Unless you roll straight in with a heavy knowledge of the game and a fat wallet, I can't imagine joining this game fresh and enjoying it. That initial grind is just no fun. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list.
Caleb Seremshur Gladiators of Rage RAZOR Alliance 719	Posted - 2015.12.18 08:27:36 - [29] - Quote Lucas Kell wrote: No, because I know they won''t be interested in it and certainly won't be interested in a monthly subscription for it. Unless you roll straight in with a heavy knowledge of the game and a fat wallet, I can't imagine joining this game fresh and enjoying it. That initial grind is just no fun. I think the late game grind is the real killer. Potentially investing a years skilling in to a ship you may not even use coughnaglfarcough Veteran and solo/small gang PVP advocate.
Lucas Kell Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance 6970	Posted - 2015.12.18 08:47:24 - [30] - Quote Caleb Seremshur wrote: Lucas Kell wrote: No, because I know they won''t be interested in it and certainly won't be interested in a monthly subscription for it. Unless you roll straight in with a heavy knowledge of the game and a fat wallet, I can't imagine joining this game fresh and enjoying it. That initial grind is just no fun. I think the late game grind is the real killer. Potentially investing a years skilling in to a ship you may not even use coughnaglfarcough Yeah but at least by then you have 3 million other things to do. Early on you're waiting for skills any time you want to change direction, you have no idea about mechanics and you're being farmed and scammed by veteran players at every turn until you figure out what you're doing. All while paying for a sub because you don't have a stockpile of isk. As a vet, I can do pretty much any activity without additional training, I know pretty much every trick that people while try to use against me so I don't get caught out and I've got so much isk laying around that I can do absolutely nothing to gain more isk and still remain subbed on multiple accounts for my skills to tick over for the foreseeable future. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list.

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