Arthur?

I thought brave newbies minions came to fix calmil...wasn't enough?

I thought brave newbies minions came to fix calmil...wasn't enough?

Glitch and Sven

Will their ability to not suck overcome obvious trust issues as well as Intra-corp drama lama nonsense that goes on in cal mil? Only time will tell.

Also, hasn't snuffed out gotten big enough to not need the caldari as a meat shield? :p

Glitch and Sven

We've been using elite GalMil corps recently.

But how is RDRAW going to take it now that you'll have active parties on both sides?

Glitch and Sven

Who?

Show some respect to your new overlords.

Indeed

All loot to Glitch and Sven you ******* scrub n3rds. Christmas is canceled and so is your SRP get **** on.

This is your new in game experience now, get used to it Squids

Plans are already in motion for 110% control. This is the moment we have been waiting for. We were unable to retake pava or intaki thanks to squid autz dominance, and were completely helpless to defend aivonen, agoze, iges, innia, fliet, or aubunall.

Even poor Crosi had to log his alts to make it faster :D

The age of squid is over.

Plans are already in motion for 110% control. This is the moment we have been waiting for. We were unable to retake pava or intakki thanks to squid autz dominance, and were compltelty helpless to defend aivonen, agoze, iges, innia, fliet, or aubunall.

Things will be different now.

With 4 way war, i suggest Huola as the first step towards 110%.

Is this a gallente circle jerk yet?

One of the largest alliances in eve history joined calmil a few weeks ago but you are still outnumbered lol.

We just left when you brought gay numbers to fight us,

What the hell you mean by, unable to take Intaki because of AUtz dominance. We were outnumbered in Intaki, but you guys failed to plex it up, because villore and alwar pvp skill is terrible.

I'm surprised you even mentioned Intaki, because of how we trolled you in the end. Calling all gals to go there and plex while we had 10 active guys spread in all TZs.. well no one can blame you, it is our specialty in the end.

Intaki ending was glorious tho, you made even large siege POS, called 20+ man fleet in all TZ and we just bailed.
I'm sure gals liked those 20h of pure plex grind with no pvp!
Even poor Crosi had to log his alts to make it faster :D

I dont think many SPDR came along tbh.

With 4 way war, i suggest Huola as the first step towards 110%.

Is this a gallente circle jerk yet?

Let's count to 3 and take a deep breath.

Galmil FW LP store is worth more than the other races. Fact.

That's why you have all the people.

Let's count to 3 and take a deep breath.

Galmil FW LP store is worth more than the other races. Fact.

That's why you have all the people.

Spoken like a true nullbear. LP stores dont just become more valuable than other LP stores by accident. Our store is often better by the nature of its difficulty to farm and the smaller numbers farming it. If we had numbers because people came to farm it would result in LP being devalued.

Yet another example of people reading numbers and thinking that imparts knowledge on them, as per cearain.

FED LP store still has better items.
Navy Webs, drone tracking computers, better, more prolific hulls.

Similar with Minmatar - Shield Extenders with low PG and faction tackle mods are generally a very powerful investment and Min/Gal have the strongest ones whilst being pretty affordable.

When was the last time someone went "I need me some Caldari scrams" or "I want a hookbill".

The value of the LP store doesn't just scale with ISK/LP.

Spoken like a true nullbear. LP stores dont just become more valuable than other LP stores by accident. Our store is often better by the nature of its difficulty to farm and the smaller numbers farming it. If we had numbers because people came to farm it would result in LP being devalued.

Yet another example of people reading numbers and thinking that imparts knowledge on them, as per cearain.

Let's count to 3 and take a deep breath.

Galmil FW LP store is worth more than the other races. Fact.

That's why you have all the people.

Shhhhhhhhh!

Don't tell people that the Osprey Navy is fairly competitive on grid and in the marketplace.

Ooopsies!

Shhhhhhhhh!

Don't tell people that the Osprey Navy is fairly competitive on grid and in the marketplace.

Ooopsies!

It says that cal mil LP was extensively farmed by a number of huge nullbear alliances in the past and countless russian alts leading to a vast reserve of LP which constantly deflates the isk/LP.

Even when we are in tier 3 and you are in tier 1, you still often beat us in daily VP numbers. I would expect availability of LP to play a bigger role in the value of LP than any other factor.

Having a quick look at the statepro LP store shows a good number of high volume items with 1100-1400 isk/LP. Which considering the volume of LP being generated by cal mil is pretty fair imo.

It's almost impossible to take you seriously when you abuse a coward fit garmur that you lose, repeatedly. In combination with your links alt you want to call me a nullbear? You really should know better.

Linked Garmur.

"outrageous risks"

"against the odds"

Ok, I laughed.

I guess thats the best way to get over being a bitter squid :)

So because i sometimes take outrageous risks against the odds in keeping with the purpose of using a kite, my simple supply/demand explanation of fundamental economic activity is to be disregarded?

Hmmm,ok lol.

Id have hoped all that time chaining belts would give you time to construct a more coherent response. I guess there is a cognitive bottleneck.

You talk about risk but you have a childs understanding of it. I risk towers worth billions per month each whether I undock or not. Simple inaction on my part is more risky than your garmurs.

You're confusing a reflection for the nights sky: whelping a frigate worth more than some battleships isn't impressive.

*golf clap* it's not hard to make money you plebeian.

Why do you think I even live in null? For the fights. Getting paid to do my job ain't nothing to sniff at when you hit capital fleet sizes.

My kb shows 225 cap kills and 3 cap losses. Some months dreadnaught was my most used ship. Not sure how many kills i have while using caps but its probably quite a few. More kills than you have ever made no doubt.

Your kb shows zero cap kills and zero cap losses.

Now, im not saying this disproves your explanation for why gal mil lp retains its value better than most. Im just responding to your absurd assertion that because you are 2 bit moom manager, or because you claim to have been involved in some level of cap escallation, that my supply/demand explanation of gal mil lp values is not correct.

Lets take a step back.Obviously i have offended you and your epeening attempts have fallen quite short. All lp stores have good isk/lp while the faction is doing badly in occupancy and all lp stores crash when their faction hits high tiers.

Some factions isk/lp/tier-level correlation is lagged out due to an abundance of available LP generated items from historical farming. Gal mil has never been the target of a huge farming effort (beyond inferno) as our LP is just harder to farm. All other factions have.

Not to say gal mil doesnt have good items in its store. But so do all factions. Even if we did have a better overall spread of items, would that not be fair since for quite some time weve been running missions in prots and tengus compaired to other factions using bombers?

Of course if you are still offended, rebut by argument with a tale of that one time you got an officer spawn after only 4 hours of chaining belts.

I personally accumulated ~30 billion isk this month

I dont argue in gifs, but could you please be any more of a stereotypical nullbear in doing so lol.

So a quick look thought items with reasonable volume. im sure this list is not exhaustive;

CN-Hookbill
CN-Raven
CN-Osprey
CN-Crapacal
CN-Drake
CN-LSE
CN-Vespa
CN-Warden
CN-PDU
CN-Wasp
Datacores
Cap Boosters
CN-Hornet
CN-Torps
CN-MSE

They all come in at over 1000isk/lp. Some of them well over. The actual value is dictated by supply and demand. Volume of sales would indicate that there is reasonable demand with gallente having the greater volume on smaller hulls and caldari having greater volume of the BC/BS hulls. Therefor the supply seems to be what regulates the isk/lp value.
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If by 'worth the same' you mean caldari ships are worth about 20% more then yes, they are worth the same.

You have one major misconception.The amount of LP circulating does not drive the ships being used. The amount of lp simply drives the isk value of LP. When i talk about volumes im referring to the number of ships being bought in Jita, which contrary to your persecution complex, does not seem to represent any significant 3:1 problem.

Comet 200/day - 2,000,000 LP
Hookbill 125/day - 1,250,000 LP

Vexor NI - 170/day - 7,650,000 LP
Crapacal NI - 30/day - 1,350,000 LP

Exeq NI - 15/day - 675,000 LP
Osprey NI - 35/day - 1,575,000 LP

Brutix NI - 30/day - 3,000,000 LP
Drake NI - 45/day - 4,500,000 LP

Dominix NI - 10/day - 2,500,000 LP
Raven NI - 25/day - 6,250,000 LP

Gal mil hulls = 15.8m LP/day
Cal mil hulls = 11.5m LP/day

While gal mil ships are outselling the cal mil ships. The 3:1 ratio from your imagination is not reflected in a cursory examination of the jita market. Gallente are earning 75% more LP per effort than cal mil. If your premise was correct you would expect to see our ships being sold at a 75% higher rate and then some extra to describe the 'fact that gallente ships are also better'

Since that is not the case, i would again point out that the supply of LP would just seem to be relatively low which insulates gal mil from extended periods of market collapse. This has been the case for years, and nothing has happened to change it.

In eve demand is driven by destruction, and the best way to gauge demand for lp in the case of faction warfare is to look at how many Navy ships were lost, and multiply that by the lp cost of each ship. It's more reliable than any metrics you'll get from market data in trade hubs. e.g. a player buys a Navy Raven from you that's 250k lp cashed in and you might forget about it and move on, but from the point of view of the overall market for SPROT lp that 250k lp isn't really cashed out until the ship gets destroyed. The player can still sell the ship to someone else at a later date effectively cancelling his original purchase, and it can change hands multiple times, each transaction registering on the graphs of trade hubs but still only 1 purchase from the LP store and only 250k lp sold. Only when the ship gets destroyed is your 250k SPROT lp consumed and flushed from the market, the player might chose to buy another or he might not it doesn't matter, he can't sell it on again. Compare the pve ships Caldari have with high volume ships like the Fed Navy Comet, or the Navy Vexor, those ships are constantly getting destroyed always creating fresh demand for more FDU lp. That's a good thing, but Caldari and Minmattar really need a couple of ships like that too or they are at a disadvantage.

I don't agree but it doesn't matter anymore because a lot changed after that and it's much better now. Caldari got the navy osprey buff, minmattar got the fleet cane both should be big markets. if the fleet stabber got a buff to pg, and they try something different with the navy caracal (i'd like it changed for a navy moa) i'd call it balanced and nobody in faction war would be worse off.

saturation is the word i was looking for, pvp ships are like consumables and pve ships are more like durable goods.

Never said i was special. What insecurity in your personality made you think i did?

Also, perhaps you are under the impression that once a thread goes to the next page, that all previous comments are lost?




Clearly you have taken my nullbear comment very personally. Since then you have done nothing but display your shamefully small epeen for all to see. That was a mistake from where im sitting.

Probably the part where you talked about your extreme risks. In a garmur. Where other people have said it all before.

It's that sense of communal ownership that makes a nation a nation. An empire an empire. Yeah you might not have any real power over it but you are still a part of it and without a sense of ownership over where you live what are you even playing in null for?

There's no epeen but yours being wagged throwing your sad achievements around.

This thread is now going places.

Caleb and Crosi could go maybe go places too. I suggest somewhere with a free bottle of bubbles, complimentary chocolates and a nice hot tub where you can work on each others extremely tight shoulder muscles in privacy.

That was a lot of woffle caleb. Seems like you havent vented in a while.

Best bit was when you challanged my assertion that cfc were far bigger than any other coalition lol.

Like when I asked you to back up your claim with some sort of evidence that cfc have the most active players. I doubt cfc could field 1000 pilots at a time anymore.

Totally ignoring again my history with FW, lowsec empire, highsec wardeccing, industry, wormholes etcetera......

Going to the part of space that the ******* game is centrally designed to support is now a bad thing I didn't know? Pity me I didn't realise that all the big updates that have been 2+ years in the design phase and coming this year were only meant for lowsec champions like yourself but oh wait I'm not even sure if any of those player built structures are even designed for your space. Shame I can't be bothered checking because the limitations of lowsec on gameplay are irrelevant to me in my current occupation.

Crosi - really. stahp, comparing me to ideological extremists is patently ridiculous.

im the only one here missing Bohica Empire ??

Hey how's this project coming along? Can we get a status update?

Is it bad that the comedy central logo is so similar to the logo in my background?

Didn't even know there was a 6 pages thread about me...

Cheers guys <3

Calmil is as expected, pretty bad.
Gal mil as expected is still on the ball.

No drama .. yet.
Lots of kills and getting there slowly.

Only time will tell haha


Also guys, its not about drama, e-peen or anything. Caldari always loose, like, always, weve done some stuff had fun and got kills. Thats what its all about <3. Much love to you all.