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Andrew Jade
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Posted - 2003.12.05 16:00:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: DREAMWORKS on 05/12/2003 10:08:31
Everlasting Vendetta has made a decision to drive larger corporations out Stain it seems
Ugh atleast know what your talking about if your going to comment.... EV is larger than Omega.[EV-222, Oc-139(ish)] Everyone is allowed their oppinions, but make sure you get the facts straight before posting.
I find it pathetic that all affairs to do with EVE are pasted all over the forums, its kinda sad. Oh well on with fighting.
-Aj-
Everlasting vendetta has made a decision to driver larger corporations out Stain it seems.
There is a diffrence if i would have said:
Everlasting vendetta has made a decision to driver larger corporations than everlasting vendetta out of Stain it seems.
I _did_ not say that there were corporations larger than everlasting vendetta driver out, but larger corporations as in "corporations larger than the medium sized". Since 100+ is a respectable size for a corporation IMHO.
If Everlasting Vendetta members don't get that and/or try so hard to turn the story in such a pathetic way, i can only say: Sir, you suck! 
It can be read either way.
-Aj-
WTB: Large faction smartbomb with good range. Top isk paid.
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2003.12.05 16:02:00 -
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Edited by: DREAMWORKS on 05/12/2003 16:03:23
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Quote: Edited by: DREAMWORKS on 05/12/2003 10:08:31
Everlasting Vendetta has made a decision to drive larger corporations out Stain it seems
Ugh atleast know what your talking about if your going to comment.... EV is larger than Omega.[EV-222, Oc-139(ish)] Everyone is allowed their oppinions, but make sure you get the facts straight before posting.
I find it pathetic that all affairs to do with EVE are pasted all over the forums, its kinda sad. Oh well on with fighting.
-Aj-
Everlasting vendetta has made a decision to driver larger corporations out Stain it seems.
There is a diffrence if i would have said:
Everlasting vendetta has made a decision to driver larger corporations than everlasting vendetta out of Stain it seems.
I _did_ not say that there were corporations larger than everlasting vendetta driver out, but larger corporations as in "corporations larger than the medium sized". Since 100+ is a respectable size for a corporation IMHO.
If Everlasting Vendetta members don't get that and/or try so hard to turn the story in such a pathetic way, i can only say: Sir, you suck! 
It can be read either way.
-Aj-
Yeah, so YOU get your facts straight. I know both corporations, and i know both are large. Like DUH!
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Laby
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Posted - 2003.12.05 16:19:00 -
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I am just a peaceful miner/producer who has no affiliations with any alliance and I am in a corporation of one, myself. But, I continually read these forums and try and keep up to date on the political going-ons (I have a boring job). And I would just like to say;
Good luck to you OC in your fight against tyranny!!
A quote for the OC leadershipà
I am a man of peace. God knows how I love peace. But I hope I shall never be such a coward as to mistake oppression for peace. Louis Kossuth (1802 - 94) Hungarian patriot
A quote for the OC leadershipà
War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. John Stuart Mill (1806 - 1873)
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LtCol RTButts
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Posted - 2003.12.05 16:25:00 -
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Quote: Iluyen: It makes no sense for a few bb's on a wolf pack op to engage a BS group when their objective is disruption and catchng enemies with their pants down. You don't win a war by exchanging losses. You win wars by costing the enemy losses with little losses to yourself. Haven't noticed your corp engaging an alliance of 40-50 corps for 2 months solo. When you do, feel free to instruct me in strategy. 
i dont think anybody can win something without own bases that could be destroyed. every ship is only a ship. a destroyed ship, who cares really .... a base with a real logistic keyfunction, equipment and BPc re the thing that would hurt. but up to that date, war is only a waste of ships and very small amounts of equipment. nothing that could really hurt a corp.
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Centuri
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Posted - 2003.12.05 16:40:00 -
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Edited by: Centuri on 05/12/2003 16:42:35
Quote: As you yourself said you have had a lot of practice using guerillia tactics (that involve you attacking miners and indies then running when anyone with a gun fitted on their ship gets in system).
OC-EV/SW war so far comes to 6 EV/SW Battleships and 1 BB dead, loss on OC side has been 1 megathron, 1 bestower (on a pre-emptive EV/SW strike after we had agreed to SA terms) and 2 BBs yesterday. There have been no indy kills for us yet, but we will gladly take what we can get, our cruise missiles do not discriminate.
Quote: A valid tactic no doubt (although I think the game mechanics are a bit fubared at the moment and make it to easy to run away and hide in safespots, stations, logging out, etc)but a long way from what you pretend to be. And your still hiding behind the fact that your in a BB.
Many OC engaged several battleships solo in the past few days with a BB, sure we didn't kill them solo, but we sure as hell didn't run straight off the bat.
I'm sure you never sat in a camped station before lol . Actually it's amazing how 2-3 people in a station can lock-down 12-15 people by doing absolutely nothing.
Quote: Tell me with all the BSs you alledgedly have in reserve why is it a wolf pack of BBs and not a wolf pack of BSs? Everlasting is right you dont put anything on the line and you greatly exagerate the effect you had on curse.
Most OC ops always have BS support, BBs make up a large proportion of our fleet as do other ships. We try to take advantage of the game mechanics, yes, everyone does, why don't you fly a rifter in pvp instead of your Tempest? It gives you an advantage, that is why, we use fleet setups that give us the most advantages and it does work.
Quote: Let me make it clear to you your not a good pvper your a muppet attacking non pvp-ers. Come to think of it now I describe you you sound a lot like Tank CEO. Maybe you should consider pirating after all.
Hmmm, everyone in Eve must be some sort of PvPer, because it is a pvp game. Same applies for Pvp corps. I'm sure not everyone in OC likes pvp that much either, they all just probably hide it. 
It's only been a short time since OC has stopped operations in and around Curse towards CA, so personally I don't expect some corps to forgive us straight away, tensions will still be there for awhile at least. Even though i've fought CA along with my comrades I have infact gained alot of respect for them, they always fight the good battle and always stick up for eachother, unlike our current enemies, Everlasting Vendetta and Solar Wind.
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Catherine Airey
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Posted - 2003.12.05 17:16:00 -
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Quote: It's only been a short time since OC has stopped operations in and around Curse towards CA, so personally I don't expect some corps to forgive us straight away, tensions will still be there for awhile at least. Even though i've fought CA along with my comrades I have infact gained alot of respect for them, they always fight the good battle and always stick up for eachother, unlike our current enemies, Everlasting Vendetta and Solar Wind.
sounds nice. time to join curse maybe 
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Iluyen
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Posted - 2003.12.05 17:17:00 -
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Edited by: Iluyen on 05/12/2003 17:31:21 --------------------------------------------- I'm sure you never sat in a camped station before lol
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Actuallty no I haven't
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Iluyen
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Posted - 2003.12.05 17:17:00 -
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Edited by: Iluyen on 05/12/2003 17:31:41 double post
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Iluyen
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Posted - 2003.12.05 17:29:00 -
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Edited by: Iluyen on 05/12/2003 17:31:57 I've seen the advantage these BBs give you in combat, it probably explains the oc corpses in my hangar:). Your just doing what I said annoyed me about OC i.e. hiding behind the BB excuse whenever it suits them. It doesnt matter how you try and sell it your taking no risks period.
As for pvping, I know the difference between a no risk kill that takes no skill and a battle that was what I consider "real" pvp. (wich doesnt mean I don't kill when there is no risk involved ) You go play your researcher and pretend to be pvping another researcher if you want:)
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Ralith
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Posted - 2003.12.05 17:52:00 -
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Edited by: Ralith on 05/12/2003 18:00:04 I've been with Omega Corp since mid beta and I will support my corp, which has never turly been defeated (We have lost battles, but never wars).
Preminition of the future? No, just a promise.
Quote: Edited by: Iluyen on 05/12/2003 17:31:57 I've seen the advantage these BBs give you in combat, it probably explains the oc corpses in my hangar:). Your just doing what I said annoyed me about OC i.e. hiding behind the BB excuse whenever it suits them. It doesnt matter how you try and sell it your taking no risks period.
As for pvping, I know the difference between a no risk kill that takes no skill and a battle that was what I consider "real" pvp. (wich doesnt mean I don't kill when there is no risk involved ) You go play your researcher and pretend to be pvping another researcher if you want:)
Iluyen, for someone who is suppose to be good a PvP you sure don't seem to understand tactics.
I'll do it simple. In REAL wars, you want to do maximum damage with minimum damaged taken. So, for instance, if we are in a fight and destroy 1 bs but we lost destroyed 2-3 or even 20 bb, we come out on top (75-150m loses to 5-10m or 60m). This my Iluyen is what is called "tactics".
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Centuri
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Posted - 2003.12.05 18:30:00 -
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Edited by: Centuri on 05/12/2003 18:33:39 Catherine Airey :
Quote: sounds nice. time to join curse maybe
I'm sure you'll have a lovely time there.
Iluyen :
Quote: hiding behind the BB excuse whenever it suits them.
I'm sorry if you disagree with proven tactics. Seems as though you have a personaly grudge with OC *shrug* EV is accepting members I hear.
I really don't see your point. You're arguing to us about tactics that are proven in attacking an enemy for an extended amount of time.
The way I see it, our offensive fleets are extremely like CCP visioned and what most other players would like to see. A few battleships supported by alot of smaller ships. If all of the eve-populous went by your vision of combat, everyone one fly around in uninsured battleships, as insurance would be deemed "cowardly"...."OMG he has insurance!, that coward, he'll loose next to nothing in a fight and will have another ship straight away". Unless you yourself fly around in an unisured Battleship your rhetoric has no meaning and you are simply a hipocrit. EVERYONE plans for the event that if they do loose something that loss will be minimal, it happens out of game and it happens ingame. I'm sorry if you do not comprehend that.
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ShoKillU
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Posted - 2003.12.05 18:53:00 -
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Just Reading the boards I have No vested interests in any of the alliances but it nice to see war going on Best of Luck to the victor be it OC or the rest of the Stain Aliance soon war will spread to the other alliances because eventually the goals of a Corp will become different than the goals of an alliance. all we need now is for the empires to war then only then will we have sweet anarchy  Corruptor Extraordinaire Bringing Eve to Anarchy 1 System at a Time |

GFLTorque
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Posted - 2003.12.05 23:49:00 -
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This will be the only response from GFL. We follow strictly to the council's decision and we will, if required , enforce the decision.
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Archon Stormrage
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Posted - 2003.12.06 00:03:00 -
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This will be the response from Redemption Inc. We follow strictly to the council's decision and we will, if required , enforce the decision and will continue our defense of Stain from CA at the same time.
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Balmer
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Posted - 2003.12.06 01:27:00 -
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Rehearsed response?
------------------------------ Proud Member of Curse Alliance ------------------------------
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Tenashi
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Posted - 2003.12.06 01:33:00 -
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Edited by: Tenashi on 06/12/2003 01:37:54 All SA corperations have the same statement...yet only the 2 main hostiles are EV and SW...
Guys, befor u decide to enforce what ever EV has manipulated the council to do, think hard and talk with ur members befor making a final decision about our corperate standings to eachother after a good relationship as it will be hard to go back to the current standing at a later time when u see their true intentions with stain.
I really hope it won`t come to that 
yea..my spelling isn`t the best, but i try 
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Nirvy
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Posted - 2003.12.06 02:03:00 -
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Quote: This will be the response from Redemption Inc. We follow strictly to the council's decision and we will, if required , enforce the decision and will continue our defense of Stain from CA at the same time.
Hehe why do i get the image of guns been held to these guys heads  Mercenary | The Azath |

nails
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Posted - 2003.12.06 03:04:00 -
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ya, it's like SA is afrade of getting kicked out of stain by EV. ------------------
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roman
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Posted - 2003.12.06 04:08:00 -
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Hi guys ,yes i'm still here deciding to quit or not .I got sad reading about the cituation there I don't know how you can shoot each other ofter being friends for long time fighthing hunthing side by side only for some, very slow spawning bistots.even I the hunted had gotten fond of you guys :). On my observations the system distributin betwean the corps was far from fair and it justlly needed some adjustment but i am surprised how the other corp have turned against omega even after they have given up %80 of their systems .have some appriciation for them and don't be greedy you wouldn't do better than them if you were instead of them. Omega corp i'm on your side and if I decided to countinue playing I will try to be usefull to you .
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Bigfoot Hunter
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Posted - 2003.12.06 06:51:00 -
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*Salutes Roman*
Thx Roman u where always the ultimate prey I never managed to catch u srry for times when i got a bit hot headed hunting u . --------------------------------------
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Kalki Nibiru
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Posted - 2003.12.06 07:02:00 -
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Edited by: Kalki Nibiru on 07/12/2003 03:32:48 Voting cast in favor of Omega Corp = Democracy
Voting cast against Omega Corp = "Mob rule tyranny"
quoted from their official press release http://www.eveguardian.com/comments.php?id=324&catid=14
Taken from the May 29th 2003 Devchat at EveGate . <Muaddid> Q: When will sentry gun and station and similar construction pods be introduced on the market? <Hellmar> we have various player owned entities already implemented. Sentry guns, power/shield generators, field repair mini-stations, mobile refineries. We are still working out the last tidbits of how they can be over taken, what is the penalty of having a sentry gun kill a n00b etc. and we have been a bit busy with plugging the holes that people have found.I would say that you'd start to see these items on the market in about 2-3 weeks, very expensive to begin with |

slothe
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Posted - 2003.12.06 07:09:00 -
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hi kalki, long time m8 hope u ok.
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Asmodia
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Posted - 2003.12.06 07:59:00 -
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after reading the EVE Guardian i want to add:
Ceasefire/NAP with CA ? :
I was in HED today and let OC forces past unharmed. I reported my acting to our CEO and got the authorisation to do this. This is how our corp will handle this situation in HED after the CA council makes a decision.
I doesnt know how, other CA Corps handle this now.
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Bigfoot Hunter
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Posted - 2003.12.06 11:21:00 -
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I wanna thank all of the people who have been so supportive to our cause its much appreciated. --------------------------------------
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Archon Stormrage
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Posted - 2003.12.06 11:33:00 -
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Edited by: Archon Stormrage on 06/12/2003 11:33:35
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Quote: This will be the response from Redemption Inc. We follow strictly to the council's decision and we will, if required , enforce the decision and will continue our defense of Stain from CA at the same time.
Hehe why do i get the image of guns been held to these guys heads 
Please refrain from making comments on our relationship with either OC or EV. You know nothing of either.
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Xenovetica
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Posted - 2003.12.06 13:21:00 -
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Good luck, OC.
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Bergisch Glattbach
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Posted - 2003.12.06 16:11:00 -
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Quote: EV and SW need every friend they can get in an attempt to survive this.
being friend of ev is more dangerous than being enemy of ev.
they have no honor and no true friends.
i wish omega good luck and keep your honor up!
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Skillz
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Posted - 2003.12.06 18:05:00 -
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EV likes to point out how many they are. Many are alts and most are newbies that don't understand ore prices.
So tell me, how will they have a chance against Omega Corporation?

Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Dreez
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Posted - 2003.12.06 20:02:00 -
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Thanks alot for the support dudes , we will do our best not to let you down .
Btw, did i mension that there is free icecream for everyone who brings me an EV or SWC corpse.... the taste is peach.
'Trying to argue logically with Evol is like trying to teach a pig to dance. It only makes you look foolish and really annoys the pig ' - Duke Droklar [OC]
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Ralith
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Posted - 2003.12.06 23:14:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: Archon Stormrage on 06/12/2003 11:33:35
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Quote: This will be the response from Redemption Inc. We follow strictly to the council's decision and we will, if required , enforce the decision and will continue our defense of Stain from CA at the same time.
Hehe why do i get the image of guns been held to these guys heads 
Please refrain from making comments on our relationship with either OC or EV. You know nothing of either.
Considering that EV, and probably most of the rest of SA thought it would be war I am just a little surprised at how basily only EV has posted here (of the SA corps). One would think that the other corps would want to avoid this if it is not truly what they want. Just an interesting thought to go on.
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