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Fabienne Runestar
Ars Caelestis Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.22 14:33:00 -
[481]
Originally by: McDan
Originally by: Pastora
Originally by: McDan Objective accomplished? You came in and destroyed a few small offline poses with a 100 man fleet. You lost a fair number of ships in the process and wasted about 4 hours because the towers were all replaced before you left the system. What the hell was your objective?
To have some fun, perhaps?
Shooting poses? i have shot poses before and it is anything but fun.
See you must not have had the pleasure of being in a gang lead by XirtamVoTF. Any gang with the Dark Lord on TS is entertaining.
We could be sitting in JITA waiting for WARTS (War Targets) to appear and it would still be fun. (Don't Worry Privateers we will try not to camp you out of JITA anytime soon.) Of course some of our more crazy members in CA might just go after the red minus in JITA and get condordokened but hey that's life. --
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Omega Bloodstone
Battlestars Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.22 14:44:00 -
[482]
Originally by: Chowdown
Originally by: Omega Bloodstone And we lost 4% of our fleet to a Titan(which yes was quite a few ships), but not to any LV pilots other than Chow and the Cyno pilot.
You had a gang of 650 Good US presence.
Ohh Chow, not very good mathmatical caculations there bud. It's okay. I would show 4% of 650 as being 26 ships destroyed. Is this how many killmails you show at 02:30? I'm not seeing those numbers lost. It should not be. Maybe since your stuck in that Titan there and thats the only way for Chowdown to get kills you added in the some from the last blast in e02Check plz sir..
Ohh and hell yea 650 is not to shabby for US presense heh
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Kyguard
Fire Mandrill Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.22 14:47:00 -
[483]
Originally by: McDan
Originally by: Pastora
Originally by: McDan Objective accomplished? You came in and destroyed a few small offline poses with a 100 man fleet. You lost a fair number of ships in the process and wasted about 4 hours because the towers were all replaced before you left the system. What the hell was your objective?
To have some fun, perhaps?
Shooting poses? i have shot poses before and it is anything but fun.
It's the fun in flying as an alliance. If you can't understand that then.. -
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Steve Bennett
FinFleet Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.01.22 14:49:00 -
[484]
Originally by: Omega Bloodstone To be an annoyance just like when you guys jumped into e02. Is there any other clarification needed? It was to have some fun shooting some LV stuff. Does LV do that, or do you guys stayed bored? Please don't tell me LV don't go out and shoot hostile targets. Geez, if it's just 4 small offline poses that are not relevant then why care. And we lost 4% of our fleet to a Titan(which yes was quite a few ships), but not to any LV pilots other than Chow and the Cyno pilot. You guys did not come out of your whole. Unless you consider your response time 3 popped POSes later which is well...not very good for a 2200 person alliance and at that time is was beddy by time for most.
Please review killboards before coming to conclusions on numbers. 26 ships went pop with the DD and 6 additional ships were killed by LV pilots. --------
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McDan
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.01.22 14:52:00 -
[485]
Originally by: Kyguard
Originally by: McDan
Originally by: Pastora
Originally by: McDan Objective accomplished? You came in and destroyed a few small offline poses with a 100 man fleet. You lost a fair number of ships in the process and wasted about 4 hours because the towers were all replaced before you left the system. What the hell was your objective?
To have some fun, perhaps?
Shooting poses? i have shot poses before and it is anything but fun.
It's the fun in flying as an alliance. If you can't understand that then..
Well having heard what was going on in 1V- local last night I guess I have a different view of exactly how much fun you guys were having together.
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Chowdown
Gallente Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.01.22 14:53:00 -
[486]
Edited by: Chowdown on 22/01/2007 14:50:27
Originally by: Omega Bloodstone
Originally by: Chowdown
Originally by: Omega Bloodstone And we lost 4% of our fleet to a Titan(which yes was quite a few ships), but not to any LV pilots other than Chow and the Cyno pilot.
You had a gang of 650 Good US presence.
Ohh Chow, not very good mathmatical caculations there bud. It's okay. I would show 4% of 650 as being 26 ships destroyed. Is this how many killmails you show at 02:30? I'm not seeing those numbers lost. It should not be. Maybe since your stuck in that Titan there and thats the only way for Chowdown to get kills you added in the some from the last blast in e02Check plz sir..
Ohh and hell yea 650 is not to shabby for US presense heh
Yes I received 26 kill mails at 02:30, has xirt been counting losses again?
Did you have 650 in gang?
http://www.eve-battlestars.net/chow.html
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Omega Bloodstone
Battlestars Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.22 14:56:00 -
[487]
Originally by: Chowdown Edited by: Chowdown on 22/01/2007 14:50:27
Originally by: Omega Bloodstone
Originally by: Chowdown
Originally by: Omega Bloodstone And we lost 4% of our fleet to a Titan(which yes was quite a few ships), but not to any LV pilots other than Chow and the Cyno pilot.
You had a gang of 650 Good US presence.
Ohh Chow, not very good mathmatical caculations there bud. It's okay. I would show 4% of 650 as being 26 ships destroyed. Is this how many killmails you show at 02:30? I'm not seeing those numbers lost. It should not be. Maybe since your stuck in that Titan there and thats the only way for Chowdown to get kills you added in the some from the last blast in e02Check plz sir..
Ohh and hell yea 650 is not to shabby for US presense heh
Yes I received 26 kill mails at 02:30, has xirt been counting losses again?
Did you have 650 in gang?
We can count numbers between killboards all day. But is the chubby chick in your signature nessesary?? Thats were I count the losses from"vomits in mouth a bit".
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Sigos
ORIGIN SYSTEMS Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.22 15:31:00 -
[488]
Originally by: Chowdown Edited by: Chowdown on 22/01/2007 14:50:27
Originally by: Omega Bloodstone
Originally by: Chowdown
Originally by: Omega Bloodstone And we lost 4% of our fleet to a Titan(which yes was quite a few ships), but not to any LV pilots other than Chow and the Cyno pilot.
You had a gang of 650 Good US presence.
Ohh Chow, not very good mathmatical caculations there bud. It's okay. I would show 4% of 650 as being 26 ships destroyed. Is this how many killmails you show at 02:30? I'm not seeing those numbers lost. It should not be. Maybe since your stuck in that Titan there and thats the only way for Chowdown to get kills you added in the some from the last blast in e02Check plz sir..
Ohh and hell yea 650 is not to shabby for US presense heh
Yes I received 26 kill mails at 02:30, has xirt been counting losses again?
Did you have 650 in gang?
I don't see how you manage to blame this on Xirt, but you guys always seem to find a way... :P
The main problem is the members...the members...who didn't post their own killmails. As, I believe it was, Milano said, send the killmails and he'll put them up.
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Princess Aricia
Gallente Mercenaries of Andosia Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.22 15:42:00 -
[489]
Originally by: Blitz0r
Originally by: Princess Aricia
Originally by: ChalSto
I saw lots of my former "friends" with a red-dot in local (princess...how can u do this to me ).
Well my dear... I was just trying to go to 1v- to log off... my bedtime was way passed... and YOU guys fired upon me... Too bad you run off... maybe I would have taken 1 or 2 or 3 more But 1 Claw is ok too... hehe
I don't like been called "meatshields" or "dog turd" from "friends".. that is not friends in my book.
I can't wait until the ppl in the New CA hear you whine who to follow or not, if those are here i will leave the gang.. OH NOES!!
Keep turning with the wind!
LOL... I don't fallow bad FC'ders I'm sure you are thinking about the time I was in "your gang" and didn't want to fallow your orders... because I had my orders from Light Darkness... And YOU GUYS asked... "Who is Light Darkness??" I only suicide mission for a few ppl... you are not one of them...
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Horza Otho
Minmatar Infortunatus Eventus
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Posted - 2007.01.22 15:45:00 -
[490]
http://lotka.org/img/xirt.swf
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Chowdown
Gallente Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.01.22 15:50:00 -
[491]
Originally by: Sigos
Originally by: Chowdown Edited by: Chowdown on 22/01/2007 14:50:27
Originally by: Omega Bloodstone
Originally by: Chowdown
Originally by: Omega Bloodstone And we lost 4% of our fleet to a Titan(which yes was quite a few ships), but not to any LV pilots other than Chow and the Cyno pilot.
You had a gang of 650 Good US presence.
Ohh Chow, not very good mathmatical caculations there bud. It's okay. I would show 4% of 650 as being 26 ships destroyed. Is this how many killmails you show at 02:30? I'm not seeing those numbers lost. It should not be. Maybe since your stuck in that Titan there and thats the only way for Chowdown to get kills you added in the some from the last blast in e02Check plz sir..
Ohh and hell yea 650 is not to shabby for US presense heh
Yes I received 26 kill mails at 02:30, has xirt been counting losses again?
Did you have 650 in gang?
I don't see how you manage to blame this on Xirt, but you guys always seem to find a way... :P
The main problem is the members...the members...who didn't post their own killmails. As, I believe it was, Milano said, send the killmails and he'll put them up.
Ohh its just he has always been a little bit creative on kills and losses.
Yup but I am glad we are all in agreement my maths was actually correct. I think it is foolish to expect to ever be able to get all members to post there deaths. As such when I want a realistic breakdown of the situation I look at our killboards for our kills, and I like at our enemys killboard for our losses. Dunno what you think, but it may be worth addressing your calculations in this manner in future, remember to cross refrence across multiple boards.
p.s. Oi Bloodstone thats my Mom your talking about.
http://www.eve-battlestars.net/chow.html
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Major Tarsis
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.01.22 15:51:00 -
[492]
Edited by: Major Tarsis on 22/01/2007 15:50:20
Originally by: Princess Aricia
Originally by: Blitz0r
Originally by: Princess Aricia
Originally by: ChalSto
I saw lots of my former "friends" with a red-dot in local (princess...how can u do this to me ).
Well my dear... I was just trying to go to 1v- to log off... my bedtime was way passed... and YOU guys fired upon me... Too bad you run off... maybe I would have taken 1 or 2 or 3 more But 1 Claw is ok too... hehe
I don't like been called "meatshields" or "dog turd" from "friends".. that is not friends in my book.
I can't wait until the ppl in the New CA hear you whine who to follow or not, if those are here i will leave the gang.. OH NOES!!
Keep turning with the wind!
LOL... I don't fallow bad FC'ders I'm sure you are thinking about the time I was in "your gang" and didn't want to fallow your orders... because I had my orders from Light Darkness... And YOU GUYS asked... "Who is Light Darkness??" I only suicide mission for a few ppl... you are not one of them...
Was that the Op where you threatened to order 'your guys' to attack the LV fleet because we had an opportunity to attack RA slightly outnumbered and you would not do it without LD holding your hand??
MT
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Omega Bloodstone
Battlestars Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.22 16:24:00 -
[493]
Originally by: Horza Otho http://lotka.org/img/xirt.swf
i cudnt help it
I tink we been there done that type a deal. But yes still funny. should hear him on TS when we bust it out. He generally says !@#!@#$!#!%#$!!! #@$#$%!@!!!! And we love it!!
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Bellon
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.01.22 16:28:00 -
[494]
Originally by: Omega Bloodstone
Originally by: Chowdown Edited by: Chowdown on 22/01/2007 14:50:27
Originally by: Omega Bloodstone
Originally by: Chowdown
Originally by: Omega Bloodstone And we lost 4% of our fleet to a Titan(which yes was quite a few ships), but not to any LV pilots other than Chow and the Cyno pilot.
You had a gang of 650 Good US presence.
Ohh Chow, not very good mathmatical caculations there bud. It's okay. I would show 4% of 650 as being 26 ships destroyed. Is this how many killmails you show at 02:30? I'm not seeing those numbers lost. It should not be. Maybe since your stuck in that Titan there and thats the only way for Chowdown to get kills you added in the some from the last blast in e02Check plz sir..
Ohh and hell yea 650 is not to shabby for US presense heh
Yes I received 26 kill mails at 02:30, has xirt been counting losses again?
Did you have 650 in gang?
We can count numbers between killboards all day. But is the chubby chick in your signature nessesary?? Thats were I count the losses from"vomits in mouth a bit".
HILARIOUS backtracking. I Laughed.
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Princess Aricia
Gallente Mercenaries of Andosia Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.22 17:08:00 -
[495]
Originally by: Major Tarsis Edited by: Major Tarsis on 22/01/2007 15:50:20
Originally by: Princess Aricia
Originally by: Blitz0r
Originally by: Princess Aricia
Originally by: ChalSto
I saw lots of my former "friends" with a red-dot in local (princess...how can u do this to me ).
Well my dear... I was just trying to go to 1v- to log off... my bedtime was way passed... and YOU guys fired upon me... Too bad you run off... maybe I would have taken 1 or 2 or 3 more But 1 Claw is ok too... hehe
I don't like been called "meatshields" or "dog turd" from "friends".. that is not friends in my book.
I can't wait until the ppl in the New CA hear you whine who to follow or not, if those are here i will leave the gang.. OH NOES!!
Keep turning with the wind!
LOL... I don't fallow bad FC'ders I'm sure you are thinking about the time I was in "your gang" and didn't want to fallow your orders... because I had my orders from Light Darkness... And YOU GUYS asked... "Who is Light Darkness??" I only suicide mission for a few ppl... you are not one of them...
Was that the Op where you threatened to order 'your guys' to attack the LV fleet because we had an opportunity to attack RA slightly outnumbered and you would not do it without LD holding your hand??
I didn't order them nothing... But I'm sure they would shoot you guys... IF you would have opend fire on me, like you said you would do.. IF I was not to fallow your orders... I didn't... And for the matter on "holding LD's hand..." I'll do that EVERY DAY And I'll fallow any other good FC also... to death... But not you.
Nuff said...
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Stormhold
FinFleet Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.01.22 17:19:00 -
[496]
Edited by: Stormhold on 22/01/2007 17:15:53 Oh my, what a drama.
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Major Tarsis
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.01.22 17:23:00 -
[497]
Originally by: Princess Aricia
Originally by: Major Tarsis Edited by: Major Tarsis on 22/01/2007 15:50:20
Originally by: Princess Aricia
Originally by: Blitz0r
Originally by: Princess Aricia
Originally by: ChalSto
I saw lots of my former "friends" with a red-dot in local (princess...how can u do this to me ).
Well my dear... I was just trying to go to 1v- to log off... my bedtime was way passed... and YOU guys fired upon me... Too bad you run off... maybe I would have taken 1 or 2 or 3 more But 1 Claw is ok too... hehe
I don't like been called "meatshields" or "dog turd" from "friends".. that is not friends in my book.
I can't wait until the ppl in the New CA hear you whine who to follow or not, if those are here i will leave the gang.. OH NOES!!
Keep turning with the wind!
LOL... I don't fallow bad FC'ders I'm sure you are thinking about the time I was in "your gang" and didn't want to fallow your orders... because I had my orders from Light Darkness... And YOU GUYS asked... "Who is Light Darkness??" I only suicide mission for a few ppl... you are not one of them...
Was that the Op where you threatened to order 'your guys' to attack the LV fleet because we had an opportunity to attack RA slightly outnumbered and you would not do it without LD holding your hand??
I didn't order them nothing... But I'm sure they would shoot you guys... IF you would have opend fire on me, like you said you would do.. IF I was not to fallow your orders... I didn't... And for the matter on "holding LD's hand..." I'll do that EVERY DAY And I'll fallow any other good FC also... to death... But not you.
Nuff said...
Firstly I said THREATENED and secondly it was not me you had an issue with that day as I was not in command of the fleet.
The LV FC was fully 100% aware of the situation and had been in direct chats with LD unlike yourself, who was not in the channel with LD when this was being discussed (and it was not being discussed on TS before you get onto that).
We missed the window of attack on that because of the none constructive comments we were having to deal with caused by yourself in chats.
By the time we waited till LD's fleet turned up we vastly outnumbered the enemy who promptly retreated safely.
PLEASE PLEASE bring that sort of commanding to the NCA it will fit right in.
Ok enough for now I have said mine you will probably want to have the last word as usual so I wil let you. I am not going to be drawn into a flame fest by your posts. I know what happened as do the other LV pilots there.
GL PA in whatever future you have.
MT
My comments are purely in character and should not be considered a personal attack especially if taken out of context. - awaiting mods reply via email |
Pepperami
Art of War
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Posted - 2007.01.22 17:28:00 -
[498]
Originally by: Princess Aricia I don't like been called "meatshields" or "dog turd" from "friends".. that is not friends in my book.
Is it wise flaming ex-allies who were nothing but loyal friends to V? It's ironic you would choose to say that, considering all the rubbish IMP was saying on this forum about V, and getting all bent out of shape about a private conversation that may or may not be genuine.
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Omega Bloodstone
Battlestars Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.22 17:37:00 -
[499]
Originally by: Major Tarsis Edited by: Major Tarsis on 22/01/2007 15:50:20
Originally by: Princess Aricia
Originally by: Blitz0r
Originally by: Princess Aricia
Originally by: ChalSto
I saw lots of my former "friends" with a red-dot in local (princess...how can u do this to me ).
Well my dear... I was just trying to go to 1v- to log off... my bedtime was way passed... and YOU guys fired upon me... Too bad you run off... maybe I would have taken 1 or 2 or 3 more But 1 Claw is ok too... hehe
I don't like been called "meatshields" or "dog turd" from "friends".. that is not friends in my book.
I can't wait until the ppl in the New CA hear you whine who to follow or not, if those are here i will leave the gang.. OH NOES!!
Keep turning with the wind!
LOL... I don't fallow bad FC'ders I'm sure you are thinking about the time I was in "your gang" and didn't want to fallow your orders... because I had my orders from Light Darkness... And YOU GUYS asked... "Who is Light Darkness??" I only suicide mission for a few ppl... you are not one of them...
Was that the Op where you threatened to order 'your guys' to attack the LV fleet because we had an opportunity to attack RA slightly outnumbered and you would not do it without LD holding your hand??
Don't pick on our Princess there Major. Come on now. She seems to have plenty of fight in her. And if someone does not engage 9 times out of 10 there is a good reason for it. Why question it?
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Cyberian Ragnos
Minmatar Mercenaries of Andosia Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.22 17:47:00 -
[500]
Originally by: Plutoinum
If that word was used by LV, I guess none of you knows, when, in which context, how often it was used and by whom in LV and how serious that needs to be taken and if it represented the general view in LV. I don't know. To me it looks like some of you use that point just as a justification to fly with RAGoon now. Because, if you couldn't explain that, it would look a bit bad.
Anyway, it's your decision. We are all not in V anymore, but all just ex-V corps. You are happy to join CA and maybe fly with RAGoon, other ex-V's prefer to keep RAGoon negative and set CA to negative standings now too. I enjoy it, you give our after-V-life a meaning. Something to 'hate' in an ingame way. ( E.g. I still like LD and maybe understand his decisions a bit from his perspective, but he's hostile anyway now. ^^ )
Where is the problem ? Have fun. I'm sure, I'm going to have it in the future.
If that word was used or not by LV is irrelevant. We are not children (well, at least most of us aren't) who change allegiances because of so trivial a comment. -V- was dying and left to its own by its allies. I will try to shortly explain here my views. They are my own and do not reflect any official position, but I am sure more people share the same view among us.
LV helped us a lot in Scalding Pass. Especially at the end when our forces were fading and we had no moral to fight as an alliance anymore. A Lot of corporations had left us, the few who stayed felt overwhelmed and incapable of fighting back without capitals or proper resources. When it became clear that we couldn't hold, they helped us to evacuate and take our assets. I respect the people who did it a lot and I respect LV as an organization for doing it.
That said in my opinion e we owe then nothing for this. They did what was honorable and helped a falling conrade in that occasion, but we fought for them and with them for along time holding RAGOON and shielding most of their territory till we couldn't breath anymore. We were allies, and we owe nothing to each other. We had a common goal. We worked towards it. -V- failed. End of the story.
What was left from -V- fell back to survive. We were doing reasonably well till some of the remains of ASCN came to join our enemies in GW. Battered from months of fight, with our moral dangerous low, seeing people and corps leaving everyday we couldn't hold. Soon there wouldn't be anything to hold to anymore. We got ourselves caught right in the middle of 3 bigger hostile forces, RAGOON, Imps and eventual incursions from the North. We had nowhere to expand to and no space to breath.
In all this time, LV did nothing. You can say, "They had their own problems, we should deal with ours". But truth is, RAGOON never left Imp to their own. We faced RA capitals in GW more than once. We had our POSes destroyed by them. LV owed us nothing and they left it clear. It seems that going with a Titan to e02 and blowing CA ships with this is much more important to them, than it was to lend a fraction of this mobilization to help us to keep the little we had left. Nothing against it. I agree that they owe us nothing, but in the same way we owe then nothing either.
Xirt made us a fair proposal, and offered us a way to work to create something worth the effort again. Instead of struggling to survive while we see everything we fought for disappearing. Even then we would prefer not to fight against our former allies if it was possible to avoid it. Unfortunately that won't be the case. Because in their arrogance they thing they can take everybody at once. That generated my first comment in this thread.
About fighting side to side with goon. Well, it is natural that some of us hold a grudge against our former enemies. I don't, but I can understand it. This grudge tends to fade with time, though. US is very friendly with UK nowadays as far as I know. And France and Germany gets along with all EU...
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Cupdeez
Vengeance of the Fallen Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.22 17:50:00 -
[501]
Originally by: Chowdown
Originally by: Omega Bloodstone And we lost 4% of our fleet to a Titan(which yes was quite a few ships), but not to any LV pilots other than Chow and the Cyno pilot.
You had a gang of 650 Good US presence.
Chowdown you know this is not ture.
L send me the kill list
3 (tier 2 battleships) 2 (tier 1 battleships) 7 (battlecruisers) and a few cruisers/frigates/others
out of a 136 man fleet mostly BS you did well.
Yah we used lots of ammo taking down 3 POS but we just wanted to test you hahahaha
No one said anything about the Domi/Raven we killed before you got the titan in system. So 2 BS and 3/4 towers down. LV's reaction time 2.5 hours.
Objective Comp.
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nickycakes
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.01.22 17:55:00 -
[502]
Originally by: Cupdeez
Originally by: Chowdown
Originally by: Omega Bloodstone And we lost 4% of our fleet to a Titan(which yes was quite a few ships), but not to any LV pilots other than Chow and the Cyno pilot.
You had a gang of 650 Good US presence.
Chowdown you know this is not ture.
L send me the kill list
3 (tier 2 battleships) 2 (tier 1 battleships) 7 (battlecruisers) and a few cruisers/frigates/others
out of a 136 man fleet mostly BS you did well.
Yah we used lots of ammo taking down 3 POS but we just wanted to test you hahahaha
No one said anything about the Domi/Raven we killed before you got the titan in system. So 2 BS and 3/4 towers down. LV's reaction time 2.5 hours.
Objective Comp.
you have our kb addy.
you got pwned, killed next to nothing, and are trying to paint a pretty forum picture. end of story.
anyway, do you guys live in curse yet?
Rarely Outnumbered, Usually Outgunned, Never Outsmacked
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Bellon
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.01.22 17:58:00 -
[503]
Originally by: Cupdeez
Originally by: Chowdown
Originally by: Omega Bloodstone And we lost 4% of our fleet to a Titan(which yes was quite a few ships), but not to any LV pilots other than Chow and the Cyno pilot.
You had a gang of 650 Good US presence.
Chowdown you know this is not ture.
L send me the kill list
3 (tier 2 battleships) 2 (tier 1 battleships) 7 (battlecruisers) and a few cruisers/frigates/others
out of a 136 man fleet mostly BS you did well.
Yah we used lots of ammo taking down 3 POS but we just wanted to test you hahahaha
No one said anything about the Domi/Raven we killed before you got the titan in system. So 2 BS and 3/4 towers down. LV's reaction time 2.5 hours.
Objective Comp.
Please stop this endless gimping and simply see our killboard for a confirmation of the fact that you failed miserably.
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Bellon
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.01.22 18:06:00 -
[504]
Originally by: Cyberian Ragnos
Well meaning but ignorant rantings
Please name one other enemy alliance, besides LV, that you expect CA to be regularly attacking the home systems of.
If there are none, then what you are essentially saying is that you joined an alliance whose sole significant enemy is LV. You may not owe us much, but to say its reasonable, after all we did, to join someone who we are the SOLE enemy of is madness. Your leadership agreed KOS screwed us all over, what you have done is FAR worse.
Please stop trying to play the "you let us down" card: We did everything that LD or Bjoern asked of us and MUCH much more. We commited huge amounts of assets to defending you, despite the fact that the POS ****ups were by far and away the main reason for the loss of sov in key systems.
What you are basically saying s you couldnt fight a guerilla war in a region with NPC stations without our help. How that is possible is beyond me.
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ChalSto
The Galactic Empire Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.01.22 18:18:00 -
[505]
Can everybody calm down again plz? My perspective from yesterday: CA was on a fun-ride. Got owned. End of story. Nothing will change that....no forum whinage or flaming. If some CA-forum-warrior is saying now "omg....u liar...u sucked...we ruled......bla bla bla"........it is simply not true and 2/3 of the eve-community knows, that I¦m telling from the neutral-side mostly. There is just one thing what confuses me: After -V- was falling appart, IMP flamed all -V- members to hell and back how they suck and that they were just meatshields for LV. NOW (a few weeks later!) u working with them together and treat them as ur new best "friends" and attacking ur former real friends (this is the point which makes me sad). If "I" would be an ex-V member.......I would hunt down every IMP-alliance member until they quit EvE or sell their accounts for that commend.
Evil will allways triumph, becouse Good is dumb
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Redon
Minmatar Vengeance of the Fallen Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.22 18:33:00 -
[506]
Edited by: Redon on 22/01/2007 18:30:34
Originally by: ChalSto Can everybody calm down again plz? My perspective from yesterday: CA was on a fun-ride. Got owned. End of story. Nothing will change that....no forum whinage or flaming. If some CA-forum-warrior is saying now "omg....u liar...u sucked...we ruled......bla bla bla"........it is simply not true and 2/3 of the eve-community knows, that I¦m telling from the neutral-side mostly. There is just one thing what confuses me: After -V- was falling appart, IMP flamed all -V- members to hell and back how they suck and that they were just meatshields for LV. NOW (a few weeks later!) u working with them together and treat them as ur new best "friends" and attacking ur former real friends (this is the point which makes me sad). If "I" would be an ex-V member.......I would hunt down every IMP-alliance member until they quit EvE or sell their accounts for that commend.
who got owned? seriously i think the fact that for over 2hrs we where free to do whatever we wanted with no LV in sight other then a handful of small ships. i think if it wasnt for chowdown logging on and coming up to DD us, the entire system would of fallen to us. seems to me LV relies to much on a titan. we accomplished what we wanted to do last night no matter what you think (or your incapable of seeing it).
DD loses: (of our kb's, i dont want to go on yours for fear of getting hacked or something) 5 bs's (no tier3) 7 bc's 7 crusiers 2 af's 1 inty 2 frigs 1 destroyer
even if a few kbs are missing due to people logging of cause it was late for a lot of people, nearly all ships killed are support ships.
props to chowdown for realy being the only one from LV to do anything to defend LV space, even if it was with a titan
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nickycakes
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.01.22 18:50:00 -
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Originally by: Redon
(of our kb's, i dont want to go on yours for fear of getting hacked or something)
i would hardly call sitting in safespots and scattering whenever a frig warped in on you "owning" anything, killer ;] DD or not, all you accomplished was losing ships. grats...i guess...
Rarely Outnumbered, Usually Outgunned, Never Outsmacked
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Omega Bloodstone
Battlestars Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.22 18:53:00 -
[508]
Originally by: nickycakes
Originally by: Cupdeez
Originally by: Chowdown
Originally by: Omega Bloodstone And we lost 4% of our fleet to a Titan(which yes was quite a few ships), but not to any LV pilots other than Chow and the Cyno pilot.
You had a gang of 650 Good US presence.
Chowdown you know this is not ture.
L send me the kill list
3 (tier 2 battleships) 2 (tier 1 battleships) 7 (battlecruisers) and a few cruisers/frigates/others
out of a 136 man fleet mostly BS you did well.
Yah we used lots of ammo taking down 3 POS but we just wanted to test you hahahaha
No one said anything about the Domi/Raven we killed before you got the titan in system. So 2 BS and 3/4 towers down. LV's reaction time 2.5 hours.
Objective Comp.
you have our kb addy.
you got pwned, killed next to nothing, and are trying to paint a pretty forum picture. end of story.
anyway, do you guys live in curse yet?
who said we wanted to live in curse?
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Cyberian Ragnos
Minmatar Mercenaries of Andosia Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.22 18:56:00 -
[509]
Edited by: Cyberian Ragnos on 22/01/2007 18:53:30
Originally by: Bellon
Originally by: Cyberian Ragnos
Well meaning but ignorant rantings
Please name one other enemy alliance, besides LV, that you expect CA to be regularly attacking the home systems of.
If there are none, then what you are essentially saying is that you joined an alliance whose sole significant enemy is LV. You may not owe us much, but to say its reasonable, after all we did, to join someone who we are the SOLE enemy of is madness. Your leadership agreed KOS screwed us all over, what you have done is FAR worse.
Please stop trying to play the "you let us down" card: We did everything that LD or Bjoern asked of us and MUCH much more. We commited huge amounts of assets to defending you, despite the fact that the POS ****ups were by far and away the main reason for the loss of sov in key systems.
What you are basically saying s you couldnt fight a guerilla war in a region with NPC stations without our help. How that is possible is beyond me.
Our first bigh fight in CA was against D2... And, I am not the one that will decide this but in the position we are we very likely to expand to the new regions. There is plenty of fight there. We don't need you as contenders to PVP. But we can certainly attend to your wishes.
You helped us a lot in the end and we screwed completely in SP. I won't contend it. But you seem to forget all the months that preceeded the fall of JLO, when we stood there taking most of the heat and shielding most of your territory while our alliance kept getting wearier and wearier til it fell to pieces. You are wrong if you think we owe you anything at all. Do you think YOU lost assets? LOL. You should stop and see how much we lost.
And you show your arrogance again in your answer. Yes we could fight a small guerrilla war against Imp. But what is the point? Why should we destroy our assets fighting Imp and Goons and RA to give then a few losses from time to time? Because that would be good for you? That is sillyness at its best. As it is the disrespect you show in your edited quote.
Talking about KOS, I don't know everything that ocurred. And I find difficult to blindly believe anyone's statement in this subject. Maybe they felt the same way and did what was right for them.
Politics work like this. To think otherwise is naive. I defy you to name 2 friendly nations in Europe that weren't at war at some point. Political organizations do what is best for them, period. And you made sure in the last months that being your friend was not good for us.
Originally by: ChalSto Can everybody calm down again plz? My perspective from yesterday: CA was on a fun-ride. Got owned. End of story. Nothing will change that....no forum whinage or flaming. If some CA-forum-warrior is saying now "omg....u liar...u sucked...we ruled......bla bla bla"........it is simply not true and 2/3 of the eve-community knows, that I¦m telling from the neutral-side mostly. There is just one thing what confuses me: After -V- was falling appart, IMP flamed all -V- members to hell and back how they suck and that they were just meatshields for LV. NOW (a few weeks later!) u working with them together and treat them as ur new best "friends" and attacking ur former real friends (this is the point which makes me sad). If "I" would be an ex-V member.......I would hunt down every IMP-alliance member until they quit EvE or sell their accounts for that commend.
As I told you, we are not children. We don't act on the base of smack down. Neither Imps or yours. They offered us now a chance to work again to build something. What did YOU offered us beside contempt? From you I only see statements like the previous poster's. "How can't you fight a guerrilla war in NPC 0.0?", or "NPC 0.0 is the easy mode.". Which is exactly the same as calling us incompetents, and a good way of justifying inaction. I couldn't care less for your callings, but the inaction hurt us and ultimately forced us into this decision
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Omega Bloodstone
Battlestars Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.22 18:56:00 -
[510]
Originally by: Bellon
Originally by: Cupdeez
Originally by: Chowdown
Originally by: Omega Bloodstone And we lost 4% of our fleet to a Titan(which yes was quite a few ships), but not to any LV pilots other than Chow and the Cyno pilot.
You had a gang of 650 Good US presence.
Chowdown you know this is not ture.
L send me the kill list
3 (tier 2 battleships) 2 (tier 1 battleships) 7 (battlecruisers) and a few cruisers/frigates/others
out of a 136 man fleet mostly BS you did well.
Yah we used lots of ammo taking down 3 POS but we just wanted to test you hahahaha
No one said anything about the Domi/Raven we killed before you got the titan in system. So 2 BS and 3/4 towers down. LV's reaction time 2.5 hours.
Objective Comp.
Please stop this endless gimping and simply see our killboard for a confirmation of the fact that you failed miserably.
we failed at nothing. We attempted nothing except to bother you. You failed in thinking we failed. Chow and that cyno were the only factors on LV side. Every other LV stayed away(at least ya smart). Oh yea and a two hour response time...priceless
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