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Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe 6881	Posted - 2015.12.22 06:26:11 - [31] - Quote Stupid ideas will survive eve online, that's for sure. Every change leaves the badguys just about to fall. We just need more coalitions to exist to destroy them, more legions to be paid off, more lasersov, more something!!
Remiel Pollard Shock Treatment Ministries 7043	Posted - 2015.12.22 06:30:42 - [32] - Quote Kuronaga wrote: Remiel Pollard wrote: Kuronaga wrote: Jenn aSide wrote: ChromeStriker wrote: Pretty short sighted but whatever... This. People get it in their head that something is the cause of their problems or dislike, and "if it just went away I would be happy". What's funny is that sometimes in real life those things do just go away. Then the person sees that their problem wasn't the things they pinned their hate on, it was something else (probably themselves) and just find something else to blame their unhappiness on. This kind of thinking led to "excellent new ideas" like jump fatigue and fozziesov ("the problem is power projection and super caps!, THATS why we can't beat PL or CFC, it has nothing to do with our own lack of martial/military skill!!!"). Months later and imo not much has changed, PL and Goons stronger than ever and people still complaining about things needing to be deleted from the game. Wrong. I will never be happy. But T3 and Caps are still dumb as hell. My neighbour's grass is greener than mine. Instead of taking care of mine and making it nicer, I'm just gonna burn his instead. That's how you're coming across to me, jealous and whining about the things other people have that you don't. .... this character has been around for a decade. If you think I don't have access to these things you need to stay very far away from a detective career. I find it incredibly ironic that you'd question my deductive reasoning skills when you assume that I'd assume age of character has anything to do with one's capabilities in EVE. Just because a character has existed for a decade doesn't mean anyone's been using it. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Mina Sebiestar Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate 1012	Posted - 2015.12.22 08:20:26 - [33] - Quote This game needs all T3 tech it can handle.
Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 468	Posted - 2015.12.22 08:55:25 - [34] - Quote Remiel Pollard wrote: I find it incredibly ironic that you'd question my deductive reasoning skills when you assume that I'd assume age of character has anything to do with one's capabilities in EVE. Just because a character has existed for a decade doesn't mean anyone's been using it. There is more evidence to support the possibility of my having these toys than there is to assume I don't. I am very much a billionare, same as most of the veteran community. And for the low low price of 500,000,000 isk, you too can share in my wealth of secrets. Act now!
Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 326	Posted - 2015.12.22 16:49:19 - [35] - Quote Jenn aSide wrote: ChromeStriker wrote: Pretty short sighted but whatever... This. People get it in their head that something is the cause of their problems or dislike, and "if it just went away I would be happy". What's funny is that sometimes in real life those things do just go away. Then the person sees that their problem wasn't the things they pinned their hate on, it was something else (probably themselves) and just find something else to blame their unhappiness on. This kind of thinking led to "excellent new ideas" like jump fatigue and fozziesov ("the problem is power projection and super caps!, THATS why we can't beat PL or CFC, it has nothing to do with our own lack of martial/military skill!!!"). Months later and imo not much has changed, PL and Goons stronger than ever and people still complaining about things needing to be deleted from the game. Why do you make so much sense? STAHP!!! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=331004 - thank me later
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 3766	Posted - 2015.12.22 17:03:17 - [36] - Quote Alavaria Fera wrote: Subcaps online would be pretty amusing... especially the structure shoots. It would be just like living in highsec. "You need to kill something with millions and millions or raw HP, is immune to any form of EWAR and has defenses designed to protect it from multiple capital ships? It's totally fine for you to have to do that in subcaps, why is that okay? We'll get back to you on that."
Bumblefck Kerensky Initiatives 9850	Posted - 2015.12.22 17:20:01 - [37] - Quote Mithandra wrote: It was dark humour so it's allowed That was not dark humour. THIS IS DARK HUMOUR. Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m! Bumble's Space Log
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe 6884	Posted - 2015.12.22 20:59:44 - [38] - Quote Vimsy Vortis wrote: Alavaria Fera wrote: Subcaps online would be pretty amusing... especially the structure shoots. It would be just like living in highsec. "You need to kill something with millions and millions or raw HP, is immune to any form of EWAR and has defenses designed to protect it from multiple capital ships? It's totally fine for you to have to do that in subcaps, why is that okay? We'll get back to you on that." Exactly. Blobs. Every change leaves the badguys just about to fall. We just need more coalitions to exist to destroy them, more legions to be paid off, more lasersov, more something!!
Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 472	Posted - 2015.12.22 22:35:18 - [39] - Quote And let's not act like blobs are unavailable without caps.
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 3772	Posted - 2015.12.22 22:45:28 - [40] - Quote Alavaria Fera wrote: Vimsy Vortis wrote: Alavaria Fera wrote: Subcaps online would be pretty amusing... especially the structure shoots. It would be just like living in highsec. "You need to kill something with millions and millions or raw HP, is immune to any form of EWAR and has defenses designed to protect it from multiple capital ships? It's totally fine for you to have to do that in subcaps, why is that okay? We'll get back to you on that." Exactly. Blobs. It's completely ridiculous what you have to do to bash structures in highsec. Vendetta mercenary group have taken to doing it with 20 golems. Someone explain to me again why having dreadnoughts in highsec would be a problem.

d0cTeR9 Astro Technologies SpaceMonkey's Alliance 299	Posted - 2015.12.22 22:53:51 - [41] - Quote Kuronaga wrote: Caps are just oversized battleships that serve no additional purpose other than to make you lose more isk when they finally blow up. Any unique purpose they ever served was continually nerfed and nerfed and nerfed, or never realized at all. Docking in Titans? Nah. We'll let them blow up entire subcap fleets though. Nah wait, thats stupid too. Actually caps are pretty stupid in general so we'll just make it a cap-killing weapon. T3 doesn't need much explanation. It is simply toxic as hell to balance and completely screws with the hull-size hierarchy. When balancing by isk, we already had rare and expensive modules which serve all ship sizes. T3 was simply a function that funneled additional power gain to a much smaller number of ships at only two hull sizes. How the hell was that good for the game? SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO clueless!!!! How long have you been playing? Wait nvm... have you ever been to null-sec in a proper alliance? Doesn't look like it from the faiposting. Been around since the beginning.
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe 6884	Posted - 2015.12.23 00:52:04 - [42] - Quote So either battleships are useless because of caps. Or caps are useless because of battleships.... Every change leaves the badguys just about to fall. We just need more coalitions to exist to destroy them, more legions to be paid off, more lasersov, more something!!
Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 472	Posted - 2015.12.23 04:20:54 - [43] - Quote d0cTeR9 wrote: Kuronaga wrote: Caps are just oversized battleships that serve no additional purpose other than to make you lose more isk when they finally blow up. Any unique purpose they ever served was continually nerfed and nerfed and nerfed, or never realized at all. Docking in Titans? Nah. We'll let them blow up entire subcap fleets though. Nah wait, thats stupid too. Actually caps are pretty stupid in general so we'll just make it a cap-killing weapon. T3 doesn't need much explanation. It is simply toxic as hell to balance and completely screws with the hull-size hierarchy. When balancing by isk, we already had rare and expensive modules which serve all ship sizes. T3 was simply a function that funneled additional power gain to a much smaller number of ships at only two hull sizes. How the hell was that good for the game? SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO clueless!!!! How long have you been playing? Wait nvm... have you ever been to null-sec in a proper alliance? Doesn't look like it from the faiposting. Several times. Nullsec alliance culture is generally cancer. A fruitless system of people taking advantage of people. I prefer to run my own thing. Fun fact, I was part of the first blue killed T3 when Drekla decided to awox SYS-K. At least, the first as far as anyone is aware. They were quite new at the time, and very expensive. The tears were good.
Hasikan Miallok Republic University Minmatar Republic 1792	Posted - 2015.12.23 05:59:11 - [44] - Quote It is spaceships in general that are the issue. if you deleted all ships from EVE you would eliminate in one fell swoop: - tidi - ganking - afk cloaking - gatecamps - blobbing - hotdropping - misson and incursion running carebears etc etc This would leave plenty of server CPU capability to implement WIS and Pirate Eye Patches and Fedo Unicorns and other cool stuff.
Kozawa Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2015.12.24 06:10:43 - [45] - Quote This is why you're not in charge, OP.
Kyra Lee Ixian Machines TOG - The Older Gamers Alliance 21	Posted - 2015.12.24 06:40:19 - [46] - Quote Vimsy Vortis wrote: Alavaria Fera wrote: Vimsy Vortis wrote: Alavaria Fera wrote: Subcaps online would be pretty amusing... especially the structure shoots. It would be just like living in highsec. "You need to kill something with millions and millions or raw HP, is immune to any form of EWAR and has defenses designed to protect it from multiple capital ships? It's totally fine for you to have to do that in subcaps, why is that okay? We'll get back to you on that." Exactly. Blobs. It's completely ridiculous what you have to do to bash structures in highsec. Vendetta mercenary group have taken to doing it with 20 golems. Someone explain to me again why having dreadnoughts in highsec would be a problem. I for one would love to see gank dreads sitting off the gate in Uedama and Jita undock. I have no doubt that someone would still make that profitable.
Avitar No Laws Apply 4	Posted - 2015.12.24 11:05:55 - [47] - Quote Nah it was gone.[/quote] Dude, Your face
Tanuki Kittybeta Ripperoni in Pepperoni 45	Posted - 2015.12.24 11:36:25 - [48] - Quote what about that chin guy
Esrevid Nekkeg Justified and Ancient 1227	Posted - 2015.12.24 12:05:06 - [49] - Quote Kuronaga wrote: Nothing good ever came from either. I beg to differ. My trusty Legion is doing just fine thank you very much. Kuronaga wrote: But dreams are nice to have. Dream on I would say, dream on. Here I used to have a sig of our old Camper in space. Now it is disregarded as being the wrong format. Looking out the window I see one thing: Nothing wrong with the format of our Camper! Silly CCP......
Revenant Empirical Solutions 0	Posted - 2015.12.24 21:24:17 - [50] - Quote Kuronaga wrote: Caps are just oversized battleships that serve no additional purpose other than to make you lose more isk when they finally blow up. Any unique purpose they ever served was continually nerfed and nerfed and nerfed, or never realized at all. Docking in Titans? Nah. We'll let them blow up entire subcap fleets though. Nah wait, thats stupid too. Actually caps are pretty stupid in general so we'll just make it a cap-killing weapon. T3 doesn't need much explanation. It is simply toxic as hell to balance and completely screws with the hull-size hierarchy. When balancing by isk, we already had rare and expensive modules which serve all ship sizes. T3 was simply a function that funneled additional power gain to a much smaller number of ships at only two hull sizes. How the hell was that good for the game? T3s are very much essential to WH pvp. So there's that.

Val'Dore PlanetCorp InterStellar 1140	Posted - 2015.12.24 23:40:39 - [51] - Quote Alavaria Fera wrote: Subcaps online would be pretty amusing... especially the structure shoots. Believe it or not, POS hp was balanced around the subcaps meant to take them down. As for the OP, Capitals sure, they weren't implemented very well and they didn't actually add anything useful to the game. T3s, well, T3s are inevitable. Star Jump Drive A new way to traverse the galaxy. I invented Tiericide
Mr Epeen It's All About Me 9701	Posted - 2015.12.25 00:18:06 - [52] - Quote Val'Dore wrote: Alavaria Fera wrote: Subcaps online would be pretty amusing... especially the structure shoots. Believe it or not, POS hp was balanced around the subcaps meant to take them down. As for the OP, Capitals sure, they weren't implemented very well and they didn't actually add anything useful to the game. T3s, well, T3s are inevitable. I have nothing to say here but Merry Christmas Val'Dore and Alavaria. Mr Epeen There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 474	Posted - 2015.12.25 09:05:50 - [53] - Quote Kozawa wrote: This is why you're not in charge, OP. But I am in charge. Just not of this.
Rhalina Sedai Notice Has Been Served 34	Posted - 2015.12.25 10:39:59 - [54] - Quote I want CCP to allow supers back in high-sec and delete concord. Any CSM taking notes??? FSOP (Free Systems of Panorad)
Vanilla Mooses GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 55	Posted - 2015.12.25 10:47:26 - [55] - Quote Kuronaga wrote: Several times. Nullsec alliance culture is generally cancer. A fruitless system of people taking advantage of people. I prefer to run my own thing. This is top secret code for "Can't get along with other people well due to massive ego and having a loud opinion about everything, even those things I know nothing about, and have been removed/asked to leave most any group of players I have ever been part of, and are now shiptoasting from a pilot in FA lol" Edit: Fixed broken quote tag.
Solecist Project The Scope Gallente Federation 28663	Posted - 2015.12.25 11:11:51 - [56] - Quote Vanilla Mooses wrote: Kuronaga wrote: Several times. Nullsec alliance culture is generally cancer. A fruitless system of people taking advantage of people. I prefer to run my own thing. This is top secret code for "Can't get along with other people well due to massive ego and having a loud opinion about everything, even those things I know nothing about, and have been removed/asked to leave most any group of players I have ever been part of, and are now shiptoasting from a pilot in FA lol" Edit: Fixed broken quote tag. Shut up! I've been in KarmaFleet! You guys do nothing else than amassing cheap labour! Cheap, intellectually inferior, labour! You bait them with fun and money! Bread & Circus! I certainly can't get along with inferior people who have massively inflated egos and nothing to show behind them! Umar Umarhabib > The bad thing is, every time I die with a juicy Deadspace set up, it becomes harder to fly solo.
Primary This Rifter 4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation 991	Posted - 2015.12.25 11:46:47 - [57] - Quote Kuronaga wrote: And let's not act like blobs are unavailable without caps. Let's also not act like you had a real argument at any point in this thread.
Primary This Rifter 4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation 991	Posted - 2015.12.25 11:48:52 - [58] - Quote Vimsy Vortis wrote: Someone explain to me again why having dreadnoughts in highsec would be a problem. Simple: people who refuse to leave the CONCORD hugbox don't deserve to have the big toys.
MidnightWyvern Night Theifs 118	Posted - 2015.12.25 15:25:34 - [59] - Quote Kuronaga wrote: Caps are just oversized battleships that serve no additional purpose other than to make you lose more isk when they finally blow up. Any unique purpose they ever served was continually nerfed and nerfed and nerfed, or never realized at all. Docking in Titans? Nah. We'll let them blow up entire subcap fleets though. Nah wait, thats stupid too. Actually caps are pretty stupid in general so we'll just make it a cap-killing weapon. T3 doesn't need much explanation. It is simply toxic as hell to balance and completely screws with the hull-size hierarchy. When balancing by isk, we already had rare and expensive modules which serve all ship sizes. T3 was simply a function that funneled additional power gain to a much smaller number of ships at only two hull sizes. How the hell was that good for the game? This statement being made when T3 is next up for a balance pass and Capitals are having their role completely rebuilt in the next Expansion seems a bit misinformed. _#portDust514 Don't let interactions like this become only a memory. (EVE alt> Sarayu Wyvern. Dust 514 alt> Mobius Wyvern.)
Otso Bakarti Filial Pariahs 587	Posted - 2015.12.25 22:11:03 - [60] - Quote Unicorns and rainbows to everyone (were it in my power.) There just isn't anything that can be said!



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