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Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
463
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Posted - 2015.12.21 09:54:12 -
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Nothing good ever came from either. But dreams are nice to have. |
ChromeStriker
Out of Focus Odin's Call
974
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Posted - 2015.12.21 10:10:17 -
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Pretty short sighted but whatever...
No Worries
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Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat FETID
2145
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Posted - 2015.12.21 10:11:14 -
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i like big fights so i disagree with destroyers online
Drinking rum before 10am makes you a pirate, not an alcoholic | Angel Cartel | Serpentis |
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Asuka Solo
Instant Annihilation Northern Army
3007
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Posted - 2015.12.21 10:39:14 -
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I'd delete all sub capitals.
Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk!
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6878
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Posted - 2015.12.21 11:23:45 -
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Subcaps online would be pretty amusing... especially the structure shoots.
Every change leaves the badguys just about to fall.
We just need more coalitions to exist to destroy them, more legions to be paid off, more lasersov, more something!!
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Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
7008
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Posted - 2015.12.21 12:57:37 -
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Kuronaga wrote:Nothing good ever came from either. But dreams are nice to have.
If it ever did come to being in your power, then it would be because you became a qualified game developer, and got hired by CCP, by which time you'd understand that rebalancing is better than removal. Of course, that'll never happen. Have you ever tried... I don't know, flying one yourself? I have, and I've had plenty of good come from both. Good fights and kills, that is.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
17071
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Posted - 2015.12.21 13:18:20 -
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Asuka Solo wrote:I'd delete all sub capitals.
I once knew a guy who deleted his face.
Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship
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Esrevid Nekkeg
Justified and Ancient
1174
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Posted - 2015.12.21 13:19:18 -
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Kuronaga wrote:... in my power. Luckily that is not the case.
Here I used to have a sig of our old Camper in space. Now it is disregarded as being the wrong format.
Looking out the window I see one thing: Nothing wrong with the format of our Camper! Silly CCP......
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Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
464
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Posted - 2015.12.21 13:26:51 -
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Caps are just oversized battleships that serve no additional purpose other than to make you lose more isk when they finally blow up. Any unique purpose they ever served was continually nerfed and nerfed and nerfed, or never realized at all. Docking in Titans? Nah. We'll let them blow up entire subcap fleets though. Nah wait, thats stupid too. Actually caps are pretty stupid in general so we'll just make it a cap-killing weapon.
T3 doesn't need much explanation. It is simply toxic as hell to balance and completely screws with the hull-size hierarchy. When balancing by isk, we already had rare and expensive modules which serve all ship sizes. T3 was simply a function that funneled additional power gain to a much smaller number of ships at only two hull sizes. How the hell was that good for the game? |
Jade Blackwind
757
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Posted - 2015.12.21 13:33:18 -
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Let's start by making ships jump to the star at random distance so that the instalock/bubble/disco brainless gatecamps are no longer a thing.
Let's replace player security status with faction standing, so one can be -10 with Amarr for ganking pods in Amarr, but be perfectly welcome in Rens. Make faction police quicker to scram *and pod* the criminal. Make highsec gates belong to empires and deny exit/entry to the criminal once a he's past a certain threshold (say, ten ganks) until he grinds his standing back to zero and some time passes. Get rid of magical CONCORD (like, at all).
Make multiple exits from all types of stations. Undock spawns you on a random exit.
Kill local. With fire. Everywhere.
...Meh, ten years too late.
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Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat FETID
2148
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Posted - 2015.12.21 13:37:27 -
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Jade Blackwind wrote:Let's start by making ships jump to the star at random distance so that the instalock/bubble/disco brainless gatecamps are no longer a thing.
Let's replace player security status with faction standing, so one can be -10 with Amarr for ganking pods in Amarr, but be perfectly welcome in Rens. Make faction police quicker to scram *and pod* the criminal. Make highsec gates belong to empires and deny exit/entry to the criminal once a he's past a certain threshold (say, ten ganks) until he grinds his standing back to zero and some time passes. Get rid of magical CONCORD (like, at all).
Make multiple exits from all types of stations. Undock spawns you on a random exit.
Kill local. With fire. Everywhere.
...Meh, ten years too late.
i like gatecamping so why should your playstyle be more favoured than mine?
Drinking rum before 10am makes you a pirate, not an alcoholic | Angel Cartel | Serpentis |
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Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
28189
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Posted - 2015.12.21 13:39:20 -
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Jade Blackwind wrote:Let's start by making ships jump to the star at random distance so that the instalock/bubble/disco brainless gatecamps are no longer a thing.
Let's replace player security status with faction standing, so one can be -10 with Amarr for ganking pods in Amarr, but be perfectly welcome in Rens. Make faction police quicker to scram *and pod* the criminal. Make highsec gates belong to empires and deny exit/entry to the criminal once a he's past a certain threshold (say, ten ganks) until he grinds his standing back to zero and some time passes. Get rid of magical CONCORD (like, at all).
Make multiple exits from all types of stations. Undock spawns you on a random exit.
Kill local. With fire. Everywhere.
...Meh, ten years too late.
So glad you don't get to kill the game. :)
I identify as Sol-kin and I oppose all WiSgender because the white priviledged spacists just want to oppress me with their Avatariarchy. Once the carebears are eradicated, I will stand before them, screaming...
THE GAME ! (:
You lost... :)
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Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
7008
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Posted - 2015.12.21 13:40:30 -
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Jade Blackwind wrote:Let's start by making ships jump to the star at random distance so that the instalock/bubble/disco brainless gatecamps are no longer a thing.
Let's replace player security status with faction standing, so one can be -10 with Amarr for ganking pods in Amarr, but be perfectly welcome in Rens. Make faction police quicker to scram *and pod* the criminal. Make highsec gates belong to empires and deny exit/entry to the criminal once a he's past a certain threshold (say, ten ganks) until he grinds his standing back to zero and some time passes. Get rid of magical CONCORD (like, at all).
Make multiple exits from all types of stations. Undock spawns you on a random exit.
Kill local. With fire. Everywhere.
...Meh, ten years too late.
All of these things you've listed that you want to change the mechanics for already have simple solutions with existing mechanics. Lrn2play.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
7008
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Posted - 2015.12.21 13:41:20 -
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baltec1 wrote:Asuka Solo wrote:I'd delete all sub capitals. I once knew a guy who deleted his face.
Are you sure he deleted it and it's not just in the recycle bin?
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
468
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Posted - 2015.12.21 13:46:10 -
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Kuronaga wrote:Nothing good ever came from either. But dreams are nice to have.
An idea would be, to kill all t2 and t3.
Give ships roles based on their classes. Well will never happen, since now frigate even have logi, their is no sign of enlightenment from CCP. CCP has a history with no / bad design and continues it.
Removing even the worst mistakes is a massive job, that won't be done.
Atomic Virulent : "You can't spell DOUCHE. without CODE."
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Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat FETID
2148
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Posted - 2015.12.21 13:49:51 -
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La Rynx wrote:Well will never happen, since now frigate even have logi
were bursts never a thing?
Drinking rum before 10am makes you a pirate, not an alcoholic | Angel Cartel | Serpentis |
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Jenn aSide
Ascendent. Test Alliance Please Ignore
13178
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Posted - 2015.12.21 13:55:31 -
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ChromeStriker wrote:Pretty short sighted but whatever...
This. People get it in their head that something is the cause of their problems or dislike, and "if it just went away I would be happy".
What's funny is that sometimes in real life those things do just go away. Then the person sees that their problem wasn't the things they pinned their hate on, it was something else (probably themselves) and just find something else to blame their unhappiness on. This kind of thinking led to "excellent new ideas" like jump fatigue and fozziesov ("the problem is power projection and super caps!, THATS why we can't beat PL or CFC, it has nothing to do with our own lack of martial/military skill!!!").
Months later and imo not much has changed, PL and Goons stronger than ever and people still complaining about things needing to be deleted from the game.
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Jade Blackwind
757
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Posted - 2015.12.21 14:01:32 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:All of these things you've listed that you want to change the mechanics for already have simple solutions with existing mechanics. Lrn2play. Sure. Inties, Cov/null T3s, mash Dscan until the carpal tunnel syndrome kicks in, tacticals everywhere, alts, bring friends. Except peharps the local, but this can be countered with "go live in a wormhole!".
I know how to adapt and survive (or to die in a fire, I don't care about KB efficiency), thank you.
Solecist Project wrote:So glad you don't get to kill the game. :) I don't need to kill the game, there are plenty of people including CCP themselves who will perfectly do it without my help :P |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
17072
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Posted - 2015.12.21 14:02:26 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:baltec1 wrote:Asuka Solo wrote:I'd delete all sub capitals. I once knew a guy who deleted his face. Are you sure he deleted it and it's not just in the recycle bin? Edit: I have no idea if this comment was funny or not, I just felt like being random and did the best I could.
Nah it was gone.
Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship
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Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
7012
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Posted - 2015.12.21 14:21:31 -
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Jade Blackwind wrote: I know how to adapt and survive (or to die in a fire, I don't care about KB efficiency), thank you.
Then do that.
Quote:I don't need to kill the game, there are plenty of people including CCP themselves who will perfectly do it without my help :P
The game is older than WoW, and the only time it declines in numbers is when it gets easier.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
464
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Posted - 2015.12.21 14:41:55 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:ChromeStriker wrote:Pretty short sighted but whatever... This. People get it in their head that something is the cause of their problems or dislike, and "if it just went away I would be happy". What's funny is that sometimes in real life those things do just go away. Then the person sees that their problem wasn't the things they pinned their hate on, it was something else (probably themselves) and just find something else to blame their unhappiness on. This kind of thinking led to "excellent new ideas" like jump fatigue and fozziesov ("the problem is power projection and super caps!, THATS why we can't beat PL or CFC, it has nothing to do with our own lack of martial/military skill!!!"). Months later and imo not much has changed, PL and Goons stronger than ever and people still complaining about things needing to be deleted from the game.
Wrong. I will never be happy.
But T3 and Caps are still dumb as hell. |
Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
7017
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Posted - 2015.12.21 15:18:16 -
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Kuronaga wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:ChromeStriker wrote:Pretty short sighted but whatever... This. People get it in their head that something is the cause of their problems or dislike, and "if it just went away I would be happy". What's funny is that sometimes in real life those things do just go away. Then the person sees that their problem wasn't the things they pinned their hate on, it was something else (probably themselves) and just find something else to blame their unhappiness on. This kind of thinking led to "excellent new ideas" like jump fatigue and fozziesov ("the problem is power projection and super caps!, THATS why we can't beat PL or CFC, it has nothing to do with our own lack of martial/military skill!!!"). Months later and imo not much has changed, PL and Goons stronger than ever and people still complaining about things needing to be deleted from the game. Wrong. I will never be happy. But T3 and Caps are still dumb as hell.
My neighbour's grass is greener than mine. Instead of taking care of mine and making it nicer, I'm just gonna burn his instead.
That's how you're coming across to me, jealous and whining about the things other people have that you don't.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
2429
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Posted - 2015.12.21 15:27:01 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Kuronaga wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:ChromeStriker wrote:Pretty short sighted but whatever... This. People get it in their head that something is the cause of their problems or dislike, and "if it just went away I would be happy". What's funny is that sometimes in real life those things do just go away. Then the person sees that their problem wasn't the things they pinned their hate on, it was something else (probably themselves) and just find something else to blame their unhappiness on. This kind of thinking led to "excellent new ideas" like jump fatigue and fozziesov ("the problem is power projection and super caps!, THATS why we can't beat PL or CFC, it has nothing to do with our own lack of martial/military skill!!!"). Months later and imo not much has changed, PL and Goons stronger than ever and people still complaining about things needing to be deleted from the game. Wrong. I will never be happy. But T3 and Caps are still dumb as hell. My neighbour's grass is greener than mine. Instead of taking care of mine and making it nicer, I'm just gonna burn his instead. That's how you're coming across to me, jealous and whining about the things other people have that you don't.
Well it sure is more funny to burn it than to take care of a yard. Trenching it can work too. |
Mithandra
Catastrophic Operations Get Off My Lawn
366
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Posted - 2015.12.21 15:31:49 -
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Kuronaga wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:ChromeStriker wrote:Pretty short sighted but whatever... This. People get it in their head that something is the cause of their problems or dislike, and "if it just went away I would be happy". What's funny is that sometimes in real life those things do just go away. Then the person sees that their problem wasn't the things they pinned their hate on, it was something else (probably themselves) and just find something else to blame their unhappiness on. This kind of thinking led to "excellent new ideas" like jump fatigue and fozziesov ("the problem is power projection and super caps!, THATS why we can't beat PL or CFC, it has nothing to do with our own lack of martial/military skill!!!"). Months later and imo not much has changed, PL and Goons stronger than ever and people still complaining about things needing to be deleted from the game. Wrong. I will never be happy. But T3 and Caps are still dumb as hell.
Your well researched , exquisitely prosed and presented arguments have won me over.
Oh wait......
Eve is the dark haired, totally hot emo gothchild of the gaming community
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6879
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Posted - 2015.12.21 18:05:15 -
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Mithandra wrote:Your well researched , exquisitely prosed and presented arguments have won me over.
Oh wait...... That never happens on these forums regardless so it's hardly worth joking about
Every change leaves the badguys just about to fall.
We just need more coalitions to exist to destroy them, more legions to be paid off, more lasersov, more something!!
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
9676
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Posted - 2015.12.21 19:01:14 -
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It's a freakin' sandbox!
If you want to get rid of these ships it's well within the few rules to strap on some guns, find a few like minded people, and go remove them. One at a time. With bonus tears sure to follow.
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
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Mithandra
Catastrophic Operations Get Off My Lawn
372
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Posted - 2015.12.21 19:07:49 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Mithandra wrote:Your well researched , exquisitely prosed and presented arguments have won me over.
Oh wait...... That never happens on these forums regardless so it's hardly worth joking about
It was dark humour so it's allowed
Eve is the dark haired, totally hot emo gothchild of the gaming community
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Hochopepa
POS Consultants Group LLC
24
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Posted - 2015.12.21 19:10:52 -
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Jade Blackwind wrote:Let's start by making ships jump to the star at random distance so that the instalock/bubble/disco brainless gatecamps are no longer a thing.
Let's replace player security status with faction standing, so one can be -10 with Amarr for ganking pods in Amarr, but be perfectly welcome in Rens. Make faction police quicker to scram *and pod* the criminal. Make highsec gates belong to empires and deny exit/entry to the criminal once a he's past a certain threshold (say, ten ganks) until he grinds his standing back to zero and some time passes. Get rid of magical CONCORD (like, at all).
Make multiple exits from all types of stations. Undock spawns you on a random exit.
Kill local. With fire. Everywhere.
...Meh, ten years too late.
Actually kind of the way it was originally...
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Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
467
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Posted - 2015.12.22 05:53:49 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Kuronaga wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:ChromeStriker wrote:Pretty short sighted but whatever... This. People get it in their head that something is the cause of their problems or dislike, and "if it just went away I would be happy". What's funny is that sometimes in real life those things do just go away. Then the person sees that their problem wasn't the things they pinned their hate on, it was something else (probably themselves) and just find something else to blame their unhappiness on. This kind of thinking led to "excellent new ideas" like jump fatigue and fozziesov ("the problem is power projection and super caps!, THATS why we can't beat PL or CFC, it has nothing to do with our own lack of martial/military skill!!!"). Months later and imo not much has changed, PL and Goons stronger than ever and people still complaining about things needing to be deleted from the game. Wrong. I will never be happy. But T3 and Caps are still dumb as hell. My neighbour's grass is greener than mine. Instead of taking care of mine and making it nicer, I'm just gonna burn his instead. That's how you're coming across to me, jealous and whining about the things other people have that you don't.
.... this character has been around for a decade. If you think I don't have access to these things you need to stay very far away from a detective career. |
Thayden Reid Nordic
BOVRIL bOREers Mining CO-OP RAZOR Alliance
14
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Posted - 2015.12.22 06:09:50 -
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Kuronaga wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Kuronaga wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:ChromeStriker wrote:Pretty short sighted but whatever... This. People get it in their head that something is the cause of their problems or dislike, and "if it just went away I would be happy". What's funny is that sometimes in real life those things do just go away. Then the person sees that their problem wasn't the things they pinned their hate on, it was something else (probably themselves) and just find something else to blame their unhappiness on. This kind of thinking led to "excellent new ideas" like jump fatigue and fozziesov ("the problem is power projection and super caps!, THATS why we can't beat PL or CFC, it has nothing to do with our own lack of martial/military skill!!!"). Months later and imo not much has changed, PL and Goons stronger than ever and people still complaining about things needing to be deleted from the game. Wrong. I will never be happy. But T3 and Caps are still dumb as hell. My neighbour's grass is greener than mine. Instead of taking care of mine and making it nicer, I'm just gonna burn his instead. That's how you're coming across to me, jealous and whining about the things other people have that you don't. .... this character has been around for a decade. If you think I don't have access to these things you need to stay very far away from a detective career.
Nobody cares how old your character is, stupid ideas don't age. |
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6881
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Posted - 2015.12.22 06:26:11 -
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Stupid ideas will survive eve online, that's for sure.
Every change leaves the badguys just about to fall.
We just need more coalitions to exist to destroy them, more legions to be paid off, more lasersov, more something!!
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Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
7043
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Posted - 2015.12.22 06:30:42 -
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Kuronaga wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Kuronaga wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:ChromeStriker wrote:Pretty short sighted but whatever... This. People get it in their head that something is the cause of their problems or dislike, and "if it just went away I would be happy". What's funny is that sometimes in real life those things do just go away. Then the person sees that their problem wasn't the things they pinned their hate on, it was something else (probably themselves) and just find something else to blame their unhappiness on. This kind of thinking led to "excellent new ideas" like jump fatigue and fozziesov ("the problem is power projection and super caps!, THATS why we can't beat PL or CFC, it has nothing to do with our own lack of martial/military skill!!!"). Months later and imo not much has changed, PL and Goons stronger than ever and people still complaining about things needing to be deleted from the game. Wrong. I will never be happy. But T3 and Caps are still dumb as hell. My neighbour's grass is greener than mine. Instead of taking care of mine and making it nicer, I'm just gonna burn his instead. That's how you're coming across to me, jealous and whining about the things other people have that you don't. .... this character has been around for a decade. If you think I don't have access to these things you need to stay very far away from a detective career.
I find it incredibly ironic that you'd question my deductive reasoning skills when you assume that I'd assume age of character has anything to do with one's capabilities in EVE. Just because a character has existed for a decade doesn't mean anyone's been using it.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
1012
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Posted - 2015.12.22 08:20:26 -
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This game needs all T3 tech it can handle. |
Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
468
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Posted - 2015.12.22 08:55:25 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:
I find it incredibly ironic that you'd question my deductive reasoning skills when you assume that I'd assume age of character has anything to do with one's capabilities in EVE. Just because a character has existed for a decade doesn't mean anyone's been using it.
There is more evidence to support the possibility of my having these toys than there is to assume I don't. I am very much a billionare, same as most of the veteran community.
And for the low low price of 500,000,000 isk, you too can share in my wealth of secrets. Act now! |
Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
326
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Posted - 2015.12.22 16:49:19 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:ChromeStriker wrote:Pretty short sighted but whatever... This. People get it in their head that something is the cause of their problems or dislike, and "if it just went away I would be happy". What's funny is that sometimes in real life those things do just go away. Then the person sees that their problem wasn't the things they pinned their hate on, it was something else (probably themselves) and just find something else to blame their unhappiness on. This kind of thinking led to "excellent new ideas" like jump fatigue and fozziesov ("the problem is power projection and super caps!, THATS why we can't beat PL or CFC, it has nothing to do with our own lack of martial/military skill!!!"). Months later and imo not much has changed, PL and Goons stronger than ever and people still complaining about things needing to be deleted from the game.
Why do you make so much sense? STAHP!!!
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=331004 - thank me later
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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
3766
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Posted - 2015.12.22 17:03:17 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Subcaps online would be pretty amusing... especially the structure shoots. It would be just like living in highsec.
"You need to kill something with millions and millions or raw HP, is immune to any form of EWAR and has defenses designed to protect it from multiple capital ships? It's totally fine for you to have to do that in subcaps, why is that okay? We'll get back to you on that." |
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
9850
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Posted - 2015.12.22 17:20:01 -
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Mithandra wrote: It was dark humour so it's allowed
That was not dark humour.
THIS IS DARK HUMOUR.
Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m!
Bumble's Space Log
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6884
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Posted - 2015.12.22 20:59:44 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Subcaps online would be pretty amusing... especially the structure shoots. It would be just like living in highsec. "You need to kill something with millions and millions or raw HP, is immune to any form of EWAR and has defenses designed to protect it from multiple capital ships? It's totally fine for you to have to do that in subcaps, why is that okay? We'll get back to you on that." Exactly. Blobs.
Every change leaves the badguys just about to fall.
We just need more coalitions to exist to destroy them, more legions to be paid off, more lasersov, more something!!
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Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
472
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Posted - 2015.12.22 22:35:18 -
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And let's not act like blobs are unavailable without caps. |
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
3772
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Posted - 2015.12.22 22:45:28 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Vimsy Vortis wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Subcaps online would be pretty amusing... especially the structure shoots. It would be just like living in highsec. "You need to kill something with millions and millions or raw HP, is immune to any form of EWAR and has defenses designed to protect it from multiple capital ships? It's totally fine for you to have to do that in subcaps, why is that okay? We'll get back to you on that." Exactly. Blobs.
It's completely ridiculous what you have to do to bash structures in highsec. Vendetta mercenary group have taken to doing it with 20 golems.
Someone explain to me again why having dreadnoughts in highsec would be a problem. |
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d0cTeR9
Astro Technologies SpaceMonkey's Alliance
299
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Posted - 2015.12.22 22:53:51 -
[41] - Quote
Kuronaga wrote:Caps are just oversized battleships that serve no additional purpose other than to make you lose more isk when they finally blow up. Any unique purpose they ever served was continually nerfed and nerfed and nerfed, or never realized at all. Docking in Titans? Nah. We'll let them blow up entire subcap fleets though. Nah wait, thats stupid too. Actually caps are pretty stupid in general so we'll just make it a cap-killing weapon.
T3 doesn't need much explanation. It is simply toxic as hell to balance and completely screws with the hull-size hierarchy. When balancing by isk, we already had rare and expensive modules which serve all ship sizes. T3 was simply a function that funneled additional power gain to a much smaller number of ships at only two hull sizes. How the hell was that good for the game?
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO clueless!!!! How long have you been playing? Wait nvm... have you ever been to null-sec in a proper alliance? Doesn't look like it from the faiposting.
Been around since the beginning.
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6884
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Posted - 2015.12.23 00:52:04 -
[42] - Quote
So either battleships are useless because of caps.
Or caps are useless because of battleships....
Every change leaves the badguys just about to fall.
We just need more coalitions to exist to destroy them, more legions to be paid off, more lasersov, more something!!
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Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
472
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Posted - 2015.12.23 04:20:54 -
[43] - Quote
d0cTeR9 wrote:Kuronaga wrote:Caps are just oversized battleships that serve no additional purpose other than to make you lose more isk when they finally blow up. Any unique purpose they ever served was continually nerfed and nerfed and nerfed, or never realized at all. Docking in Titans? Nah. We'll let them blow up entire subcap fleets though. Nah wait, thats stupid too. Actually caps are pretty stupid in general so we'll just make it a cap-killing weapon.
T3 doesn't need much explanation. It is simply toxic as hell to balance and completely screws with the hull-size hierarchy. When balancing by isk, we already had rare and expensive modules which serve all ship sizes. T3 was simply a function that funneled additional power gain to a much smaller number of ships at only two hull sizes. How the hell was that good for the game? SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO clueless!!!! How long have you been playing? Wait nvm... have you ever been to null-sec in a proper alliance? Doesn't look like it from the faiposting.
Several times. Nullsec alliance culture is generally cancer. A fruitless system of people taking advantage of people. I prefer to run my own thing.
Fun fact, I was part of the first blue killed T3 when Drekla decided to awox SYS-K. At least, the first as far as anyone is aware. They were quite new at the time, and very expensive. The tears were good. |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1792
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Posted - 2015.12.23 05:59:11 -
[44] - Quote
It is spaceships in general that are the issue.
if you deleted all ships from EVE you would eliminate in one fell swoop: - tidi - ganking - afk cloaking - gatecamps - blobbing - hotdropping - misson and incursion running carebears
etc etc
This would leave plenty of server CPU capability to implement WIS and Pirate Eye Patches and Fedo Unicorns and other cool stuff. |
Kozawa
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2015.12.24 06:10:43 -
[45] - Quote
This is why you're not in charge, OP. |
Kyra Lee
Ixian Machines TOG - The Older Gamers Alliance
21
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Posted - 2015.12.24 06:40:19 -
[46] - Quote
Vimsy Vortis wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Vimsy Vortis wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Subcaps online would be pretty amusing... especially the structure shoots. It would be just like living in highsec. "You need to kill something with millions and millions or raw HP, is immune to any form of EWAR and has defenses designed to protect it from multiple capital ships? It's totally fine for you to have to do that in subcaps, why is that okay? We'll get back to you on that." Exactly. Blobs. It's completely ridiculous what you have to do to bash structures in highsec. Vendetta mercenary group have taken to doing it with 20 golems. Someone explain to me again why having dreadnoughts in highsec would be a problem.
I for one would love to see gank dreads sitting off the gate in Uedama and Jita undock. I have no doubt that someone would still make that profitable. |
Avitar
No Laws Apply
4
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Posted - 2015.12.24 11:05:55 -
[47] - Quote
Nah it was gone.[/quote]
Dude, Your face
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Tanuki Kittybeta
Ripperoni in Pepperoni
45
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Posted - 2015.12.24 11:36:25 -
[48] - Quote
what about that chin guy |
Esrevid Nekkeg
Justified and Ancient
1227
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Posted - 2015.12.24 12:05:06 -
[49] - Quote
Kuronaga wrote:Nothing good ever came from either. I beg to differ. My trusty Legion is doing just fine thank you very much. Kuronaga wrote:But dreams are nice to have. Dream on I would say, dream on.
Here I used to have a sig of our old Camper in space. Now it is disregarded as being the wrong format.
Looking out the window I see one thing: Nothing wrong with the format of our Camper! Silly CCP......
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Revenant
Empirical Solutions
0
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Posted - 2015.12.24 21:24:17 -
[50] - Quote
Kuronaga wrote:Caps are just oversized battleships that serve no additional purpose other than to make you lose more isk when they finally blow up. Any unique purpose they ever served was continually nerfed and nerfed and nerfed, or never realized at all. Docking in Titans? Nah. We'll let them blow up entire subcap fleets though. Nah wait, thats stupid too. Actually caps are pretty stupid in general so we'll just make it a cap-killing weapon.
T3 doesn't need much explanation. It is simply toxic as hell to balance and completely screws with the hull-size hierarchy. When balancing by isk, we already had rare and expensive modules which serve all ship sizes. T3 was simply a function that funneled additional power gain to a much smaller number of ships at only two hull sizes. How the hell was that good for the game?
T3s are very much essential to WH pvp. So there's that. |
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Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
1140
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Posted - 2015.12.24 23:40:39 -
[51] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:Subcaps online would be pretty amusing... especially the structure shoots.
Believe it or not, POS hp was balanced around the subcaps meant to take them down.
As for the OP, Capitals sure, they weren't implemented very well and they didn't actually add anything useful to the game.
T3s, well, T3s are inevitable.
Star Jump Drive A new way to traverse the galaxy.
I invented Tiericide
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
9701
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Posted - 2015.12.25 00:18:06 -
[52] - Quote
Val'Dore wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Subcaps online would be pretty amusing... especially the structure shoots. Believe it or not, POS hp was balanced around the subcaps meant to take them down. As for the OP, Capitals sure, they weren't implemented very well and they didn't actually add anything useful to the game. T3s, well, T3s are inevitable. I have nothing to say here but Merry Christmas Val'Dore and Alavaria.
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
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Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
474
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Posted - 2015.12.25 09:05:50 -
[53] - Quote
Kozawa wrote:This is why you're not in charge, OP.
But I am in charge.
Just not of this. |
Rhalina Sedai
Notice Has Been Served
34
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Posted - 2015.12.25 10:39:59 -
[54] - Quote
I want CCP to allow supers back in high-sec and delete concord. Any CSM taking notes???
FSOP (Free Systems of Panorad)
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Vanilla Mooses
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
55
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Posted - 2015.12.25 10:47:26 -
[55] - Quote
Kuronaga wrote:
Several times. Nullsec alliance culture is generally cancer. A fruitless system of people taking advantage of people. I prefer to run my own thing.
This is top secret code for "Can't get along with other people well due to massive ego and having a loud opinion about everything, even those things I know nothing about, and have been removed/asked to leave most any group of players I have ever been part of, and are now shiptoasting from a pilot in FA lol"
Edit: Fixed broken quote tag. |
Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
28663
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Posted - 2015.12.25 11:11:51 -
[56] - Quote
Vanilla Mooses wrote:Kuronaga wrote:
Several times. Nullsec alliance culture is generally cancer. A fruitless system of people taking advantage of people. I prefer to run my own thing.
This is top secret code for "Can't get along with other people well due to massive ego and having a loud opinion about everything, even those things I know nothing about, and have been removed/asked to leave most any group of players I have ever been part of, and are now shiptoasting from a pilot in FA lol" Edit: Fixed broken quote tag. Shut up!
I've been in KarmaFleet!
You guys do nothing else than amassing cheap labour! Cheap, intellectually inferior, labour! You bait them with fun and money!
Bread & Circus!
I certainly can't get along with inferior people who have massively inflated egos and nothing to show behind them!
Umar Umarhabib > The bad thing is, every time I die with a juicy Deadspace set up, it becomes harder to fly solo.
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Primary This Rifter
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
991
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Posted - 2015.12.25 11:46:47 -
[57] - Quote
Kuronaga wrote:And let's not act like blobs are unavailable without caps. Let's also not act like you had a real argument at any point in this thread. |
Primary This Rifter
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
991
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Posted - 2015.12.25 11:48:52 -
[58] - Quote
Vimsy Vortis wrote:Someone explain to me again why having dreadnoughts in highsec would be a problem. Simple: people who refuse to leave the CONCORD hugbox don't deserve to have the big toys. |
MidnightWyvern
Night Theifs
118
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Posted - 2015.12.25 15:25:34 -
[59] - Quote
Kuronaga wrote:Caps are just oversized battleships that serve no additional purpose other than to make you lose more isk when they finally blow up. Any unique purpose they ever served was continually nerfed and nerfed and nerfed, or never realized at all. Docking in Titans? Nah. We'll let them blow up entire subcap fleets though. Nah wait, thats stupid too. Actually caps are pretty stupid in general so we'll just make it a cap-killing weapon.
T3 doesn't need much explanation. It is simply toxic as hell to balance and completely screws with the hull-size hierarchy. When balancing by isk, we already had rare and expensive modules which serve all ship sizes. T3 was simply a function that funneled additional power gain to a much smaller number of ships at only two hull sizes. How the hell was that good for the game? This statement being made when T3 is next up for a balance pass and Capitals are having their role completely rebuilt in the next Expansion seems a bit misinformed.
_#portDust514
Don't let interactions like this become only a memory.
(EVE alt> Sarayu Wyvern. Dust 514 alt> Mobius Wyvern.)
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Otso Bakarti
Filial Pariahs
587
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Posted - 2015.12.25 22:11:03 -
[60] - Quote
Unicorns and rainbows to everyone (were it in my power.)
There just isn't anything that can be said!
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Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
666
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Posted - 2015.12.26 01:21:04 -
[61] - Quote
If u do so you would find yourself alone in the deep cold space... |
Arsine Mayhem
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
393
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Posted - 2015.12.26 04:41:49 -
[62] - Quote
Kuronaga wrote:Nothing good ever came from either. But dreams are nice to have.
They exist to give old players something to train for to keep them in the game longer.
Probably would be better without them.
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Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
475
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Posted - 2015.12.26 05:26:28 -
[63] - Quote
MidnightWyvern wrote:Kuronaga wrote:Caps are just oversized battleships that serve no additional purpose other than to make you lose more isk when they finally blow up. Any unique purpose they ever served was continually nerfed and nerfed and nerfed, or never realized at all. Docking in Titans? Nah. We'll let them blow up entire subcap fleets though. Nah wait, thats stupid too. Actually caps are pretty stupid in general so we'll just make it a cap-killing weapon.
T3 doesn't need much explanation. It is simply toxic as hell to balance and completely screws with the hull-size hierarchy. When balancing by isk, we already had rare and expensive modules which serve all ship sizes. T3 was simply a function that funneled additional power gain to a much smaller number of ships at only two hull sizes. How the hell was that good for the game? This statement being made when T3 is next up for a balance pass and Capitals are having their role completely rebuilt in the next Expansion seems a bit misinformed.
This isn't the first time they've been "rebalanced" and it wont be the last. Nothing will change. |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6580
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Posted - 2015.12.26 05:30:33 -
[64] - Quote
I'd be happy if T3 cruisers were balanced to be a 'jack of all trades, master of none' as I think they were originally intended to be as opposed to a 'I can do everything better than any other single hull' platform with very few exceptions. They've been around too long to just remove because X individual doesn't like them.
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Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
475
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Posted - 2015.12.26 05:33:54 -
[65] - Quote
Of course they won't be removed. That would be too efficient. |
Primary This Rifter
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
991
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Posted - 2015.12.26 11:16:18 -
[66] - Quote
Kuronaga wrote:MidnightWyvern wrote:Kuronaga wrote:Caps are just oversized battleships that serve no additional purpose other than to make you lose more isk when they finally blow up. Any unique purpose they ever served was continually nerfed and nerfed and nerfed, or never realized at all. Docking in Titans? Nah. We'll let them blow up entire subcap fleets though. Nah wait, thats stupid too. Actually caps are pretty stupid in general so we'll just make it a cap-killing weapon.
T3 doesn't need much explanation. It is simply toxic as hell to balance and completely screws with the hull-size hierarchy. When balancing by isk, we already had rare and expensive modules which serve all ship sizes. T3 was simply a function that funneled additional power gain to a much smaller number of ships at only two hull sizes. How the hell was that good for the game? This statement being made when T3 is next up for a balance pass and Capitals are having their role completely rebuilt in the next Expansion seems a bit misinformed. This isn't the first time they've been "rebalanced" and it wont be the last. Nothing will change. Except that capital ships aren't just getting rebalanced, they're getting a fundamentally massive change to their mechanics and roles. That's something that they really haven't had since they were created. |
Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
28734
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Posted - 2015.12.26 11:57:19 -
[67] - Quote
My svipul is insane!
mwd, AB, cloak, core probe launcher, long range artillery and fast as a bullet! Not all at the same time, but that barely matters! :D
And the sig, omg the sig!
Umar Umarhabib > The bad thing is, every time I die with a juicy Deadspace set up, it becomes harder to fly solo.
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Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
1146
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Posted - 2015.12.26 12:21:39 -
[68] - Quote
Mr Epeen wrote:Val'Dore wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Subcaps online would be pretty amusing... especially the structure shoots. Believe it or not, POS hp was balanced around the subcaps meant to take them down. As for the OP, Capitals sure, they weren't implemented very well and they didn't actually add anything useful to the game. T3s, well, T3s are inevitable. I have nothing to say here but Merry Christmas Val'Dore and Alavaria. Mr Epeen
You just want to shoot me and see whats in my stockings.
Star Jump Drive A new way to traverse the galaxy.
I invented Tiericide
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Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
475
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Posted - 2015.12.26 18:24:20 -
[69] - Quote
Primary This Rifter wrote:Kuronaga wrote:MidnightWyvern wrote:Kuronaga wrote:Caps are just oversized battleships that serve no additional purpose other than to make you lose more isk when they finally blow up. Any unique purpose they ever served was continually nerfed and nerfed and nerfed, or never realized at all. Docking in Titans? Nah. We'll let them blow up entire subcap fleets though. Nah wait, thats stupid too. Actually caps are pretty stupid in general so we'll just make it a cap-killing weapon.
T3 doesn't need much explanation. It is simply toxic as hell to balance and completely screws with the hull-size hierarchy. When balancing by isk, we already had rare and expensive modules which serve all ship sizes. T3 was simply a function that funneled additional power gain to a much smaller number of ships at only two hull sizes. How the hell was that good for the game? This statement being made when T3 is next up for a balance pass and Capitals are having their role completely rebuilt in the next Expansion seems a bit misinformed. This isn't the first time they've been "rebalanced" and it wont be the last. Nothing will change. Except that capital ships aren't just getting rebalanced, they're getting a fundamentally massive change to their mechanics and roles. That's something that they really haven't had since they were created.
How much you wanna bet someone still finds a way to rat with them?
I mean hell, I've watched Moros IN SIEGE MODE farm sleepers. I have no faith in the process of capital balance. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6896
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Posted - 2015.12.26 21:05:03 -
[70] - Quote
Kuronaga wrote:How much you wanna bet someone still finds a way to rat with them?
I mean hell, I've watched Moros IN SIEGE MODE farm sleepers. I have no faith in the process of capital balance. Ratting is wonderful, so knowing the ships are flexible enough to accomodate pve roles is quite a bonus.
Every change leaves the badguys just about to fall.
We just need more coalitions to exist to destroy them, more legions to be paid off, more lasersov, more something!!
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Amber Starview
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
54
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Posted - 2015.12.26 21:39:21 -
[71] - Quote
These ships to undock feels like I am cheating as they are so much better .... I cannot say about caps but all T3 should just disappear or be restricted to wh only |
Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
28776
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Posted - 2015.12.26 23:26:22 -
[72] - Quote
Amber Starview wrote:These ships to undock feels like I am cheating as they are so much better .... I cannot say about caps but all T3 should just disappear or be restricted to wh only I suggest flying one if you feel it's so OP.
When it explodes ... ... please come back and tell us how OP they are.
Umar Umarhabib > The bad thing is, every time I die with a juicy Deadspace set up, it becomes harder to fly solo.
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Amber Starview
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
54
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Posted - 2015.12.27 00:26:28 -
[73] - Quote
Solecist Project wrote:Amber Starview wrote:These ships to undock feels like I am cheating as they are so much better .... I cannot say about caps but all T3 should just disappear or be restricted to wh only I suggest flying one if you feel it's so OP. When it explodes ... ... please come back and tell us how OP they are.
You missed the point completely....
I do fly one and it does not explode
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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1812
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Posted - 2015.12.27 00:30:30 -
[74] - Quote
There are too many ship types in the game.
I suggest eliminating all the combat frigates and destroyers as a good start. New players should be restricted to flying mining ships and tackle until they have 'done their time" then at the cruiser level have only T2 and T3 and for battlecruiers just the Gnosis. Eliminate Battleships altogether as they are stupid and useless and restrict caps to just supers and titans but let them back into hisec.
That should simplify the game nicely and spuce things up a bit :D |
Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
28776
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Posted - 2015.12.27 00:53:11 -
[75] - Quote
Amber Starview wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Amber Starview wrote:These ships to undock feels like I am cheating as they are so much better .... I cannot say about caps but all T3 should just disappear or be restricted to wh only I suggest flying one if you feel it's so OP. When it explodes ... ... please come back and tell us how OP they are. You missed the point completely.... I do fly one and it does not explode Yeah but that doesn't really tell anything about *why* it doesn't explode.
Unless you post evidence that you indeed use one and rarely ever lose one ... ... especially after getting involved in lots of fights regularly ... ... then you simply have no actual point to make.
Where's that killboard of yours?
Umar Umarhabib > The bad thing is, every time I die with a juicy Deadspace set up, it becomes harder to fly solo.
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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
3844
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Posted - 2015.12.27 01:14:01 -
[76] - Quote
Hasikan Miallok wrote:There are too many ship types in the game.
I suggest eliminating all the combat frigates and destroyers as a good start. New players should be restricted to flying mining ships and tackle until they have 'done their time" then at the cruiser level have only T2 and T3 and for battlecruiers just the Gnosis. Eliminate Battleships altogether as they are stupid and useless and restrict caps to just supers and titans but let them back into hisec.
That should simplify the game nicely and spuce things up a bit :D This would certainly be different. |
Amber Starview
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
54
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Posted - 2015.12.27 13:28:32 -
[77] - Quote
[/quote] Yeah but that doesn't really tell anything about *why* it doesn't explode.
Unless you post evidence that you indeed use one and rarely ever lose one ... ... especially after getting involved in lots of fights regularly ... ... then you simply have no actual point to make.
Where's that killboard of yours?[/quote]
I don't base my opinion on kill board stats .....I have played long enough to be able to form my own personal opinion
I understand you are trying hard to argue but maybe if you care about stats so much maybe you should dig some out yourself instead of half assed entering a thread and saying all is ok and people need stats to have a opinion....but you don't lol
FYI you want stats and care about stats and think kill board is life you prove it ...I don't my opinion is from me not a website
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Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
28818
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Posted - 2015.12.27 13:46:50 -
[78] - Quote
Amber Starview wrote: I don't base my opinion on kill board stats .....I have played long enough to be able to form my own personal opinion
I understand you are trying hard to argue but maybe if you care about stats so much maybe you should dig some out yourself instead of half assed entering a thread and saying all is ok and people need stats to have a opinion....but you don't lol
FYI you want stats and care about stats and think kill board is life you prove it ...I don't my opinion is from me not a website
No, I am not trying hard to argue.
I am calling out someone who declares something to be OP ... ... without even the shed of a proof that it is the case.
The fact that you claim to be using one ... ... while not even having a killboard to prove it ... ... shows that you should be dismissed.
Which I now do.
Your personal opinion on the matter is irrelevant.
Alex Grison > If there was a bipartisan bill supporting cannabis use for arthritic pain, it would be Joint support for Joint support for joint support
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SetSail ForEpicFail
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
8
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Posted - 2015.12.27 14:59:18 -
[79] - Quote
keep the frigs atleast |
Jennifer Maxwell
Crimson Serpent Syndicate Heiian Conglomerate
335
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Posted - 2015.12.27 15:30:20 -
[80] - Quote
I'd remove the ability for capitals to jump to cynos. |
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Mishra San
Spaceships Anonymous
24
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Posted - 2015.12.28 12:26:26 -
[81] - Quote
I'd rather see T3 capitals, guess you'd have to start with T2 though. |
Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
476
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Posted - 2015.12.28 22:03:55 -
[82] - Quote
I think at that point we would have the mega-maid thing from spaceballs. |
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