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Hank Showbo
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Posted - 2007.01.18 18:07:00 -
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Ok, the new battlecruisers are fun I guess, but does anyone actually fly them t2 fitted? Even semi-t2 fitted?
It now costs over 50M to fit out the hurricane (35M for guns/6M for nos/5M for MWD etc), it all adds up so much it just isnt practical to do it anymore.
People tell me, the new battlecruisers are t1 therefore cheap, and I say, so what, a decent fitting isnt.
Should it really cost less for me to fit out a battleship than to fit out a battlecruiser?
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Borasao
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Posted - 2007.01.18 18:11:00 -
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Yes, partially Tech2 fitted. Basically everything in mids/lows is Tech2 when I fly mine. My highs are named tech1.
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Mentat Canis
Dreamscape
Serenity Fallen
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Posted - 2007.01.18 19:24:00 -
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Its again one of those things if you can't afford to lose it don't fly it. I fly my cane just about fully tech two with the exception of the MWD and the Hardeners and the only reason for the hardeners is skills. Its total cost is about 85mil and you can insure I think it is 35 mil and you can make 50mil in a good 2-3 hours of serious ratting in that cane.
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Fey Zanis
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Posted - 2007.01.18 19:27:00 -
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"Should it really cost less for me to fit out a battleship than to fit out a battlecruiser?"
well, do you want a crappy battleship or a nice battlecruiser?
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Nicocat
Caldari
New Age Solutions
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Posted - 2007.01.18 19:36:00 -
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I don't T2 fit mine because I can't fit T2 guns. =P
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Laythun
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.18 19:39:00 -
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All T2.
But then im amarr and im not on the minnieZOOMZOOM bandwagon.
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Forum Troll
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Posted - 2007.01.18 19:42:00 -
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What, do you want them to triple the cost to make all ships or something? Just because modules have a higher demand than ships does not make the items not worth fitting.
I will have tech two items in every slot as my skill progression allows on my Hurricane.
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Haniblecter Teg
F.R.E.E. Explorer
EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.01.18 19:54:00 -
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Hell yea!
I've got my mrymidon fully t2 fitted. Its a very effective fighter and tanker if you have up to snuff skills.
I think the Tier2 BC's are excellent soloers. With the insurance costing 10mill (that right?), then my t2 drones, med reppers, ab and all the EW adds up to around 20million or so.
That's 30million that goes poof every time its popped. Not bad for a ship that does 350+ DPS against a stock raven + can tank 100 raw dps.
Worth it? Sure, for me at least, since Im sportin 1bill + in isk and assets. Its either that, or I start solo'ing in HACs. Even if I ignore my 250mill vagabond and go for my munnins, Ill still be losing 130mill+ per destroyed munin. That means Im sticking to fleet operations with my hacs.
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MrTripps
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.01.18 20:22:00 -
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Originally by: Haniblecter Teg
I've got my mrymidon fully t2 fitted. Its a very effective fighter and tanker if you have up to snuff skills.
It is so choice. If you have the means, I highly recommend picking one up. /Ferris
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LUKEC
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.18 21:09:00 -
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I just slap t2 dual heavy pulses on geddon and few iStabs and 5x t2 heavy drones and heavy nosf and i pretend it's tier2 bc, it's cheaper indeed.
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Montero
Kemono.
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Posted - 2007.01.18 21:12:00 -
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Fully t2 here. It costs but if you look after it it's a lasting investment.
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Shadarle
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Posted - 2007.01.18 21:20:00 -
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I don't buy that a BC is more expensive to fit than a BS first of all.
Second, if you can't afford to properly fit a ship and thus may lose it, don't fly it.
Third, the tier 1 BC's are cheaper to buy.. but their modules cost nearly as much as tier 2 BC's so percentage wise the mods are even a larger part of the total price for the initial BC's.
Fourth, if you use only t1 mods you had better not have the skills to use the t2 versions or the money... because you're losing out on MASSIVE amounts of dps/tanking when you do so.
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Tuschii
Pirates of Destruction Union
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Posted - 2007.01.18 23:12:00 -
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I try to T2 it as much as possible starting with T2 high slots at top priority.
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Riho
Red Wrath
Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2007.01.19 00:55:00 -
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allmost evrything is t2 :/
makes a lil bit of a diffrence in PvP... it might give u an advantage over a t1 fitted ship but it makes ur vallet cry more when u loose it.
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Nyxus
GALAXIAN
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.01.19 03:54:00 -
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Edited by: Nyxus on 19/01/2007 03:50:44
Originally by: Laythun
All T2.
But then im amarr and im not on the minnieZOOMZOOM bandwagon.
QFT.
I can't help it. T2 is just SO much better I can't help but fit it, bugger the cost.
Nyxus
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Xendie
Forsaken Empire
The Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.19 06:27:00 -
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Originally by: Hank Showbo
Should it really cost less for me to fit out a battleship than to fit out a battlecruiser?
you obviously havent flown fully tech2 kitted battleships.
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Militis Kolosok
Caldari
Praetorian Black Guard
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Posted - 2007.01.19 07:29:00 -
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Edited by: Militis Kolosok on 19/01/2007 07:26:13
I fly mine about half t2 fitted, the other half I can't afford (like t2 invul and t2 bcus) or don't have the skills for (launchers)
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Alistair Theisman
Caldari
No Quarter.
C0VEN
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Posted - 2007.01.19 07:35:00 -
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If you think the hurricane is bad to fit T2, dont even try fitting a Drake.
Freaking Heavy Missile Launcher II's
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FreeHansjeToo
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Posted - 2007.01.19 08:01:00 -
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Why fly a BC if you can fly a BS?
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Deathbarrage
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Posted - 2007.01.19 08:08:00 -
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what's t2 on my hurricane:
6x 425mm II
2x LSE II
3x gyro II
rest is named
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Alliaanna Dalaii
Gallente
Does Not Compute
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Posted - 2007.01.19 08:27:00 -
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My Tech II Fitted BC = 150mill /40mill Insurance.
My Tech II Battleships AMMO = 80mill !!!
Never mind the bloody ship and fittings 
Alliaanna
[FOR SALE]25Mill Sp Amarr Char + Hauler Alt
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Dita Jin
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Posted - 2007.01.19 08:44:00 -
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Originally by: FreeHansjeToo
Why fly a BC if you can fly a BS?
Why fly a BS when you can fly a carrier? etc. etc. posting something like that is just ignorant and stupid and does not provide anything to the topic at all.
Many people prefer BC because of the fact that they can move around compared to the blobs that battleships are.
Also there is the gang assist modules that everyone forgets about all the time...
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Kagura Nikon
Minmatar
MASS HOMICIDE
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.19 09:21:00 -
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tech 2 weapon costs will drop as soon as people realize that invention is pretty good for modules. I still can'tdo it. But as soon as i can I will go all out making 220mm vulcan T2.
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Zekk Pacus
Caldari
StateCorp
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Posted - 2007.01.19 09:33:00 -
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My Drake, my Harb, my Ferox and my Prophecy are all t2-fitted wherever skills allow. Even where a t2 mod costs 16mill (Invul Field II, anyone?) I'll still buy it over the t1 version if I can because it's a better module. Fact.
The Drake's by far the most expensive one to fit out of them all because BCU IIs and Invul Field IIs are so, so expensive. Damn mission runners.
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Hank Showbo
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Posted - 2007.01.19 09:46:00 -
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Originally by: Xendie
Originally by: Hank Showbo
Should it really cost less for me to fit out a battleship than to fit out a battlecruiser?
you obviously havent flown fully tech2 kitted battleships.
I have, I use t2 fitted tempests, and tbh, in size comparison I find them cheap. Certainly more damaging and tankable than the hurricane. I just like hurricanes better, I like the look, the speed, the agility and most of all I prefer medium sized weapons.
The fact is, there are a lot of medium class ships out there (Cruisers/Battlecruisers/Command Ships/Recons/Logistics/Heavy Assault Ships), I beleive there needs to be more t2 BPOs out for medium sized modules.
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Greyshadow
Guardians of Hell's Gate
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2007.01.19 09:57:00 -
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Got a fully fitted T2 Drake, totals 300mil ship & fittings  ...damn I love it 
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Venkhar Krard
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Posted - 2007.01.19 11:42:00 -
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Edited by: Venkhar Krard on 19/01/2007 11:41:23
The prices of medium t2 weapons are insane now because of resellers. Its cheaper to fit a typhoon than a hurricane.
Large named nos - 1,5 mil
medium named nos - 6 mil
large ACs t2 - 1,2mil
medium ACs t2 - 6 mil
I hope this will change with time ;]
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Miklas Laces
A.N.A.R.C.H.I.C.A
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Posted - 2007.01.19 11:50:00 -
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T2 guns and ammo on mine, the rest t1/named/whatever.
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FreeHansjeToo
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Posted - 2007.01.19 12:19:00 -
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Why fly a BS when you can fly a carrier? etc. etc. posting something like that is just ignorant and stupid and does not provide anything to the topic at all.
If you don't like the question, don't answer.
If you don't know the answer, don't asnwer.
It does not cost so much more to train for BS. It's not a steppingstone to BS. You CHOOSE to train for BC, there is no NEED in order to fly for instance a BS.
Now let's try again: why would you want to fly a BC instead of a BS? Speed? There is not much difference there. There is a LOT of difference elsewhere: CAP, Poweroutput and Armor/Shield.
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2007.01.19 12:31:00 -
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Originally by: Shadarle
I don't buy that a BC is more expensive to fit than a BS first of all.
Compare a HML drake setup to a Torp Raven setup, the Drake setup costs more.
Originally by: kieron
The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
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