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Siri Blue
Gallente
Duvolle Laboratories Blue Division
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Posted - 2007.01.29 06:06:00 -
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I agree, instead of adding a few interesting things CCP went the easy way and just removed everything.
That kind of course is bad for the game...
Rather give your features some more loving instead of just dumping them 
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Frug
SYOID
Fimbulwinter
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Posted - 2007.01.29 06:15:00 -
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Signed.
I never saw any explanation as to why it was removed. It makes no sense. I loved getting weird and random trade goods that I then had to figure out what to do with.
I suspect it was done by CCP to remove clutter. ie. too many noob people with too much junk all over the universe taking up too much space.
If that's the case, I wouldn't expect an answer Siri. But it's a shame. :(
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David Caldera
Gallente
Zalfir Industries
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Posted - 2007.01.29 12:04:00 -
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Junk was always more fun than the ISK I got from missions. It had something nice about it for some reason.
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hotgirl933
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Posted - 2007.01.29 12:16:00 -
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CCP made em boring thats why they created exploration
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Symeonis Porphory
Gallente
Philosophi Lapis
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Posted - 2007.01.29 13:53:00 -
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Signed.
I wouldn't mind if they did not bring back the more impossible rewards (Station Containers) that were far too much trouble to transport to a place where you could sell them.
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Snarls McGee
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Posted - 2007.01.29 15:08:00 -
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Edited by: Snarls McGee on 29/01/2007 15:05:17
 Originally by: Roemy Schneider
aha... so getting fertilizer/cattle/arms/tier1frigs/ammo/anything-not-exactly-worth-a-penny was more exciting than getting extra money? ooouhhh... keeeaayy
You make it sound like all non-ISK rewards were crap. I, for one, liked getting an extra 20k missles that I used or the dozen frigates that I could sell, give to new corpmates, fit for travel, etc. At the very least I'd *really like* to see the faction mods be brought back in (Fed Navy Co-Processor, etc).
When my friends and I started playing 8-9 months ago it was a blast to see what bonus item(s) we'd get each mission. Yeah, some were near useless but quite a few were very helpful.
It is the same thing with LP offers: When we started I'd get offers for T1 and T2 ships, implants, junk, contraband offers, etc. Then for the longest time we ONLY got silly offers for implants (8 +1 Empathy implants for 20,000 LP, etc). Now its nothing but implants and crap (I don't konw how many times I've gotten offers for things like 100 Science Grads, 200 Janitors, 55 Exotic Dancers, 45 Marines and 250 Tourists for like 30,000 LP).
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Chrysos
Colossus Technologies
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Posted - 2007.01.29 15:27:00 -
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I loved getting rewards like RAM which I could reprocess down to some much needed nocxium. Any unwanted trade goods I just dumped into a station container until I had enough to make it worthwhile to transport somewhere to sell or just set up a sell order.
My lvl 4 courier missions do now give me easily 500,000 isk (reward+bonus) per mission, even for 2 jumps in a shuttle. So I suppose I can just use the isk to buy nocxium off the market but as stated above it does remove some of the diversity. I also get +4 implants offered in empire on a regular basis.
Missions as quests in other games can be inherently boring but I do think some of them are quite well written. That doesn't make flying 2 jumps to pick up a cow any more interesting but at least some effort was put into it.
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Athren Soulsteal
Gallente
Intergalaxy Salvage And Repair
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Posted - 2007.01.29 16:36:00 -
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lol.. I had forgotten about the non-isk rewards.
I also had a station can of trade items and almost 100k of actual "garbage" sitting at my old base in Kub. I ended up just trashing the items (because no one was buying at that time)and recycling the non-trade stuff.
Missions do need to be shown some love by CCP, items like BPCs and skill books need to be added as rewards. Aslo CCP you need to focus on empire now, you have focused too much on 0.0 in the last few years and forgot a major part of the EVE players (in empire).
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Siri Blue
Gallente
Duvolle Laboratories Blue Division
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Posted - 2007.01.29 17:20:00 -
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Thanks for all the comments and productive additions so far. I just wish we could get a dev out of his cave and adding to this thread... 
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BeniahTheSilent
Caldari
A.W.M
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Posted - 2007.01.29 17:47:00 -
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I'm not entirely sure what devs or other people think about this idea, but why not have a choice or options with bonus rewards? Do you want pure ISK? Perhaps you want a few NPC goods and an exotic dancer? Maybe what motivates you is a few extra LP so that you can get that fancy offer you've been looking at. Maybe, just maybe, you're a loyalist to the company and you would rather get better standings with that company. In either case, try talking to you agent.
Don't know Dev thoughts on this, but perhaps even making more use of the negotiations skill could give you more choices or a more flexible agent. Just a thought as all of this could reflect the bartering that goes on between people to get them to accept contracts or do personal favours.
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Siri Blue
Gallente
Duvolle Laboratories Blue Division
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Posted - 2007.01.29 17:49:00 -
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I have to say, brilliant idea...
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Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.01.29 17:58:00 -
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Siri, please, don't open very similar threads in different forums.
The mods don't like that.
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Hulemand
Gallente
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.01.29 18:32:00 -
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Pirate agents still comes up with offers requiring drugs - but they no longer give out drugs so it is hard to get now a days.
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Jenny Starfighter
Caldari
Eve University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.01.29 18:42:00 -
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I have been a mission runner from the start, that is pretty much the only part of the game I have focused on. The reason I have done this is to have an income when I start PvP:ing.
So I should be happy with the way things are you might think, but I liked the item offers, gave me some variation.
I do agree that they might have needed an overhaul. In my opinion the item rewards should be tied to what kind of agent you have, so the army gives weapons and such, schools give skills and so on. It would fit the fluff and at least make it seem like it was not only about the ISK.
I would also like the mission bonus to be harder to achieve, and change it to LP instead of ISK.
And while I am rambling on, I would love to have my LP pooled by agent corp, something I have read might be implemented. And then this LP pool could be used to get "special" items, again depending on the agents corp, such as rare skills and named, T2 or even faction items, or to increase standing with that corp.
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Deez Nuttzy
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Posted - 2007.01.29 18:44:00 -
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Originally by: AKULA UrQuan
Thanks to missions I have a lifetime supply of small secure cans. 
you need to anchor them all in 1 gigantic sphere around a gate. literally a huge sphere so you can't just fly to the gate, you have to warp and get inside the can sphere to get out.
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Snarls McGee
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Posted - 2007.01.30 06:02:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Frost
Does this mean starbase charters are going to skyrocket? I thought they were given as bonuses... now they are only special mission rewards?
I forgot about Starbase Charters.. The only way I've ever gotten them lately is to keep starting L1 agents and get about 200 LPs and wait a week until I get an agent offer.. For some reason I've never gotten a second offer from the same agent so I always have to use new agents, moving around all the time :(
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Siri Blue
Gallente
Duvolle Laboratories Blue Division
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Posted - 2007.01.30 13:05:00 -
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Is it the topic of the thread that is so uninteresting to the devs or do they just love ignoring me? All I wish for is a litte statement about the issue(s)
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d026
Herrscher der Zeit Jagdgeschwader
The Pentagram
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Posted - 2007.01.30 13:31:00 -
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the only thing bothering me is that the implant offers from storyline missions are gone. it gone so far that i let timeout the last 3 storyline missions (each hauling 40k cargo 8 jumps through lowsec and back! for yay 5mil isk!) this is just retarded, at least for everone allready having enough faction standing..
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d026
Herrscher der Zeit Jagdgeschwader
The Pentagram
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Posted - 2007.01.30 13:36:00 -
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and besides.. doing missions is my main income. i dont have a industrial alt also i do not like ratting in 0.0 (this is soo ******* boring and even les isk except you can chain 20 tripple 1.8mil bs spawns in a true -1.0). so i hate the fact that i now AGAIN have to run more missions than bevore to finally get some isk to do something fun in this game (pvp, and dont tell me to earn isk with pvp, think i suck so much i have a 5:1 getting killed ratio:). if at least pve would not be that bad implemented, at least a little fun.. well then probably i'd even have fun doing a mission for 5mil. but right now pve goes downhill again. mroe grind for all of us yeah!
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Siri Blue
Gallente
Duvolle Laboratories Blue Division
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Posted - 2007.01.31 11:53:00 -
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Those implant important missions are still there...they just added one courier important mission with crap rewards \o/ YAY a courier mission at last!
Though hauling 40k m¦ for 5 mil seems crappy when there is a 1m¦ mission for a 40 mil implant as well 
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Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.01.31 12:32:00 -
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Originally by: Snarls McGee
It is the same thing with LP offers: When we started I'd get offers for T1 and T2 ships, implants, junk, contraband offers, etc. Then for the longest time we ONLY got silly offers for implants (8 +1 Empathy implants for 20,000 LP, etc). Now its nothing but implants and crap (I don't konw how many times I've gotten offers for things like 100 Science Grads, 200 Janitors, 55 Exotic Dancers, 45 Marines and 250 Tourists for like 30,000 LP).
From what corporation you get offers of science graduates?
I would like to stock. Mayby someday they will return useful for R&D.
The rest I can find in missions, but never Science Graduates.
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Siri Blue
Gallente
Duvolle Laboratories Blue Division
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Posted - 2007.01.31 15:10:00 -
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Why stock on something CCP removed with dragon Code without offering any replacements?
They said it would be a brief disrupt until missions based on the new code could be introduced....
right...that was scheduled for...in a few months...after a lot of *rabble* *rabble* they put in the current couriers/R&D missions...basically one mission with 5 or 6 different texts and cargo types, thats it...and was supposed to be an intermediate solution...
The intermediate now spans several months...
And to the question "When will we finally get our promised diversified and maybe even fun missions?"
You won't even get a comment
 
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Siri Blue
Gallente
Duvolle Laboratories Blue Division
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Posted - 2007.02.01 16:17:00 -
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Edited by: Siri Blue on 01/02/2007 16:15:35
Hm...10 days and no comment from a dev yet...
Dear grand devs of the gorgeous Eve universe...one tiny little comment on the state of development of missions and priority of same maybe pretty pretty please?
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Snarls McGee
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Posted - 2007.02.01 17:19:00 -
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Originally by: Venkul Mul
From what corporation you get offers of science graduates?
I would like to stock. Mayby someday they will return useful for R&D.
The rest I can find in missions, but never Science Graduates.
From one of the 2 L3 agents at the Brutor Tribe station in Frarn (Minmatar space).
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Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.02.01 17:23:00 -
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Ty Snarls
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Siri Blue
Gallente
Duvolle Laboratories Blue Division
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Posted - 2007.02.02 12:50:00 -
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I posted some ideas in the Features and Ideas Discussion section, maybe those will get read and commented after all
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Siri Blue
Gallente
Duvolle Laboratories Blue Division
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Posted - 2007.02.05 04:04:00 -
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Hm, I'm not really willing to give up this topic yet...
I'd really appreciate a statement about this issue...
I couldn't find anything in the "under development" thingy really...
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