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PoPa
Gallente
The Renegade Order
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Posted - 2007.01.23 13:22:00 -
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Am I the only one... these guys are hauling back and forth constantly in the neighbouring systems.. from Loes, bottom station. There is a few highlevel courier agents there.. and once day I took my sniper there and killed like.. 20-30 haulers in like.. 15-30 minutes or so.. didnt even count.
These guys just haul from there and all the way to Murethand/Heydieles/Yvangier....
I'd like to get mobile warp disruptors working in low-sec please!
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Katrina Coreli
Soar Angelic
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Posted - 2007.01.23 13:24:00 -
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Belive me, my home is in that area and it realy ****es me off too.
They make nice shooting practise though
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PoPa
Gallente
The Renegade Order
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Posted - 2007.01.23 13:28:00 -
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To begin with I was naive enough to think that if you just killed enough of them, and killed them many times, that they'd actually stop... They dont tho! Because there's noone behind the computer to figure it out... lol.
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Ice Conch
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Posted - 2007.01.23 13:33:00 -
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its good for stacking up points on a killboard, but crap loot
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Stakhanov
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.01.23 13:48:00 -
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What about organizing a week-long system lockdown , catching macro haulers 23/7 ? Their owners should get the message...
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Damien Smith
Turbulent
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.23 14:14:00 -
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We've killed countless numbers of them, but they just keep coming. I don't even bother posting the mails any more.
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Amael Galenus
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Posted - 2007.01.23 14:15:00 -
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Hear hear! The macroers have really grown out of control in the last few weeks allright but I think that petitioning them may be the only route to success- like others have said, blowing them up doesn't seem to have much impact! 
A week long lock down could be annoying for all concerned (those having to maintain the camp and everyone else trying to get through the region) and it may not actually get rid of the macroers at the end of it all (just remove quite a few of their ships).
That's just my concern as a resident in the region anyway. Kudos to the folks who set up the very effective gate camp in Oulletta last night by the way- ye looked to be doing an excellent job of killing of the macroers!
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PoPa
Gallente
The Renegade Order
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Posted - 2007.01.23 14:22:00 -
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hehe.. how about a macro popping passive shield tanked battleship with a bunch of smartbombs launchers no :P
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Aceoil
Direct Intent
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Posted - 2007.01.23 17:51:00 -
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Interesting.... :D
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DarkElf
Caldari
DJ's Exotic Dancers Escorts
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Posted - 2007.01.23 18:06:00 -
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i haven't had any trouble with macro haulers but finding the complex next to my home system being used 23/7 by the same group of up to 5 ravens, 2 geddons,a domi and a scorp is a little annoying for someone who wants to run the thing. i've lost count of how many bs i've destroyed but they simply dock and get another. gets a little tiring after a while and u really need friends to pull it off when they're in force.
Me and some friends did get a congratulations from a gm who came into local to sort them out to find us massacring about 9 of their bs tho which was nice. still, the next day there they are with new one's
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Lucifer Fellblade
Ore Mongers
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.23 19:46:00 -
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Agreed, these guys are getting out of hand.
There's usually at least 4 in local at once in Ouelletta, all in bestowers. It's not like they attempt to hide their macro'ness, half the time they fly each others ships without renaming them.
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Sallous
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Posted - 2007.01.23 20:22:00 -
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I don't understand all the hate. They're not bothering anyone. They simply run courier missions. What's the big deal?
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Jarjar
exscape corporation
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Posted - 2007.01.23 20:34:00 -
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 Originally by: Sallous
I don't understand all the hate. They're not bothering anyone. They simply run courier missions. What's the big deal?
They break the EULA to make ISK. With no work. Without even being at their computers!
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Enders Vaal
SniggWaffe
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.01.23 22:01:00 -
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I love jumping into the system and seeing names such as "fkgdlf" and "reijf" and "asdjfan"
It just adds so much to my EVE experiance ^_^
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LongJohn Scr0tum
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Posted - 2007.01.23 23:07:00 -
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The thing that makes the least sense is there cargo , on the few occasions i have botherd to pop these guys they have been carrying things like "1 cache of pistols" "1 unit of geneticly modified cattle". Either
A: they are a distraction for another hauling opereration going on else where in placid region low sec
B: there just having (an expensive) laugh or
C: CCP puts them in just to give gate campers somthing to do!
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Krumpit
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Posted - 2007.01.23 23:18:00 -
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Join channel "macrointel" in game to vent spleen about farmers and post your mails here:
http://macrointel.eve-kb.org/
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Hiesi
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Posted - 2007.01.24 01:54:00 -
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Now that macrointel channel is a good idea. I've got an alt that is an ore thief/macro miner killer, I think I might be using that a little bit then.
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Tiny Tove
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Posted - 2007.01.24 10:08:00 -
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Originally by: Damien Smith
We've killed countless numbers of them, but they just keep coming. I don't even bother posting the mails any more.
Perhaps you should keep posting, because frankly, the number of people destroying them that get ganked by you guys makes it look like you are actually protecting them.
Everybody know TURBY to be rather aggressive, but to know TURBY as Rice Farmer protectors would be worse.
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DarkElf
Caldari
DJ's Exotic Dancers Escorts
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Posted - 2007.01.24 10:37:00 -
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Originally by: Tiny Tove
Originally by: Damien Smith
We've killed countless numbers of them, but they just keep coming. I don't even bother posting the mails any more.
Perhaps you should keep posting, because frankly, the number of people destroying them that get ganked by you guys makes it look like you are actually protecting them.
Everybody know TURBY to be rather aggressive, but to know TURBY as Rice Farmer protectors would be worse.
I really don't think Turby are selective in their targets much less protecting macro'ers/farmers.
And altho it does make me laugh whenever in go into a low sec system with a 5/10 u can scan about 12 ravens all called dfhslgirhgrdmfg's raven, all 3 months old in a noob corp with no standings. but sometimes i would actually like to run the thing myself ya know.
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SleepingBuddah
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Posted - 2007.01.24 10:46:00 -
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I think, CCP can counter macroers effectively, but by some reason they don't do it...
The first thing that comes in head: sometimes request to enter the graphical numbers while undocking. It would not bother much ordinary players, but would wipe all macroers in one shot.
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Lagerstars
Caldari
Brains For The Brainless Ltd
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Posted - 2007.01.24 10:57:00 -
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I should think the reason they do little to act on them is because of the numbers involved.
Think how many hundreds of accounts they pay for - i mean i have over 100 in my address book now for robbing and generally annoying and thats just across 4 or 5 systems - now put that in to entire regions!
Taking them out would harm there pockets too much
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DarkElf
Caldari
DJ's Exotic Dancers Escorts
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Posted - 2007.01.24 11:02:00 -
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Originally by: SleepingBuddah
I think, CCP can counter macroers effectively, but by some reason they don't do it...
The first thing that comes in head: sometimes request to enter the graphical numbers while undocking. It would not bother much ordinary players, but would wipe all macroers in one shot.
Think about it for a minute. CCP is a business. their goal is to make money. secondary goal is to create a successful happy gaming community. not the other way round
DE
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PoPa
Gallente
The Renegade Order
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Posted - 2007.01.24 11:22:00 -
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Originally by: DarkElf
Originally by: SleepingBuddah
I think, CCP can counter macroers effectively, but by some reason they don't do it...
The first thing that comes in head: sometimes request to enter the graphical numbers while undocking. It would not bother much ordinary players, but would wipe all macroers in one shot.
Think about it for a minute. CCP is a business. their goal is to make money. secondary goal is to create a successful happy gaming community. not the other way round
Thats actually completely true. This isnt that big an issue really.. it's just annoying as hell....
There are companies that no the other hand have shown unable to handle that balance.. and run the game to the ground. Just look at SWG...
DE
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ScreamingLord Sutch
Hand in Mouth
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Posted - 2007.01.24 11:29:00 -
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They arent macros they are farmers.
I podkilled about 300 over them over a 2 week period. It's like fighting the incoming tide.
I petitioned them too bt CCP has done sweet **** all even though 70% of the poulation of that area has names like cdfgjha etc.
Oh, and for clarification I also submitted a bug report since they only run from there because there are 3/4 level 4 qual 20 agents that give courier missions that can for the most part be done in shuttles.
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SleepingBuddah
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Posted - 2007.01.24 11:35:00 -
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Edited by: SleepingBuddah on 24/01/2007 11:35:03
Edited by: SleepingBuddah on 24/01/2007 11:34:19
Originally by: DarkElf
Think about it for a minute. CCP is a business. their goal is to make money. secondary goal is to create a successful happy gaming community. not the other way round
DE
CCP prohibits isk -> RL money conversion, because CCP lose money. Macroers are converting isk to RL money, it is obvious. I think CCP loses more from macroers than gains.
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Lagerstars
Caldari
Brains For The Brainless Ltd
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Posted - 2007.01.24 14:06:00 -
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Originally by: SleepingBuddah
Edited by: SleepingBuddah on 24/01/2007 11:35:03
Edited by: SleepingBuddah on 24/01/2007 11:34:19
Originally by: DarkElf
Think about it for a minute. CCP is a business. their goal is to make money. secondary goal is to create a successful happy gaming community. not the other way round
DE
CCP prohibits isk -> RL money conversion, because CCP lose money. Macroers are converting isk to RL money, it is obvious. I think CCP loses more from macroers than gains.
What you have put makes no sense - just because the macroers make money from selling ISK that doesnt cause CCP to lose any money does it - because they are still paying for accounts to make the ISK
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SleepingBuddah
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Posted - 2007.01.24 14:16:00 -
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Originally by: Lagerstars
What you have put makes no sense - just because the macroers make money from selling ISK that doesnt cause CCP to lose any money does it - because they are still paying for accounts to make the ISK
Isks and other ingame stuff is a property of CCP. If someone sells CCP's property and gets money for it - he steals from CCP.
If you think that it is only bytes in computer - think about software piracy. Hope it helps to understand.
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Damien Smith
Turbulent
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.24 14:37:00 -
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Originally by: SleepingBuddah
Macroer pays 15$/month for account and gets (for example) 150$/month. It means that CCP loses 135$/month from that account. I do not know why it is unclear to you.
As much as I hate farmers, that statement makes no sense. CCP don't lose any money because they themselves aren't competing with them to sell isk for cash (excluding gtc's of course). The farmers are making money from CCP's property, and are paying CCP a tidy sum of cash for the privilege but the only ones losing out are the players themselves.
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DarkElf
Caldari
DJ's Exotic Dancers Escorts
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Posted - 2007.01.24 14:45:00 -
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Originally by: Damien Smith
Originally by: SleepingBuddah
Macroer pays 15$/month for account and gets (for example) 150$/month. It means that CCP loses 135$/month from that account. I do not know why it is unclear to you.
As much as I hate farmers, that statement makes no sense. CCP don't lose any money because they themselves aren't competing with them to sell isk for cash (excluding gtc's of course). The farmers are making money from CCP's property, and are paying CCP a tidy sum of cash for the privilege but the only ones losing out are the players themselves.
Totally correct.
The previous poster is correct on the moral stance, yes they are stealing from ccp essentially but that does not mean that ccp are losing a penny because they themselves do not sell isk for RL cash (or as far as we know)
the bottom line is unless eve players cancel their subscriptions because of this issue then ccp as a company are better off letting them pay
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SleepingBuddah
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Posted - 2007.01.24 15:18:00 -
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Originally by: Damien Smith
As much as I hate farmers, that statement makes no sense. CCP don't lose any money because they themselves aren't competing with them to sell isk for cash (excluding gtc's of course). The farmers are making money from CCP's property, and are paying CCP a tidy sum of cash for the privilege but the only ones losing out are the players themselves.
Ingame stuff has a potential real money value. Even if CCP does not sell it (officially). Farmers decrease potential value, but they convert it to some profit for CCP. But the conversion rate is very poor. CCP could make much more money from that.
Why CCP prohibits isk->RL $ conversion? Why they ban accounts of isk sellers? It would be more profitable to legalise isk sellers and take some commission from them.
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