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Cornelius Carausius Concordiat Pandemic Horde 0	Posted - 2016.01.12 18:08:03 - [1] - Quote Their purpose is to be small volume, cloaky, fast, sneaky transport ships, and yet I wouldn't take one into nullsec, at least unscouted. If there is a bubble, I need to wait for the "blockade" to leave before I attempt to go through it. What's the point of being a blockade runner if I have to scout myself through or patiently wait for the blockade to disband? I just want to make the kessel run in less than 14 12 parsecs!
Gadget Helmsdottir Gadget's Workshop 106	Posted - 2016.01.12 18:25:53 - [2] - Quote Cornelius Carausius wrote: Their purpose is to be small volume, cloaky, fast, sneaky transport ships, and yet I wouldn't take one into nullsec, at least unscouted. If there is a bubble, I need to wait for the "blockade" to leave before I attempt to go through it. What's the point of being a blockade runner if I have to scout myself through or patiently wait for the blockade to disband? I just want to make the kessel run in less than 14 12 parsecs! Maybe you can shave off a Parsec or two by finding a wormhole connection bypassing the chokepoint? Shorter runs are faster runs. Seriously though, the BR needs an Achilles' heel. Giving it the power to just shamelessly bypass an interdictor, how do you stop it at all while in route unless you rely on pilot error in your favor. --Gadget Work smarter, not harder. --Scrooge McDuck, an eminent old-Earth economist
Isaac Armer The Soup Kitchen 51	Posted - 2016.01.12 18:29:20 - [3] - Quote God no. You can't have your cake and eat it too
Teckos Pech The Executives Executive Outcomes 4338	Posted - 2016.01.12 18:48:56 - [4] - Quote Cornelius Carausius wrote: Their purpose is to be small volume, cloaky, fast, sneaky transport ships, and yet I wouldn't take one into nullsec, at least unscouted. If there is a bubble, I need to wait for the "blockade" to leave before I attempt to go through it. What's the point of being a blockade runner if I have to scout myself through or patiently wait for the blockade to disband? I just want to make the kessel run in less than 14 12 parsecs! I love my crane and viator and use them ALOT, but no. Adding interdiction nullification would reduce risk too much. Upgrading Local to Eliminate All AFK Influence So Local Chat vanished, now what?
Amber Starview Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 59	Posted - 2016.01.12 18:50:18 - [5] - Quote Yes please =ƒÿü +1 ..... Make it easier for smaller less skilled groups or solo pilots to live in null , yes I said easier the dreaded word on the forums
Scipio Artelius The Vendunari End of Life 43140	Posted - 2016.01.12 19:01:12 - [6] - Quote No, definitely not. That would be way too OP. If you could have a 15000 m^3 cloaky nullified hauler, it would never face any risk. I use a blockade runner in null regularly and the MWD- Cloak trick works great to either get back to gate and jump, or move out of the bubbles and then warp. It doesn't need nullification, just piloting. Let's not make the game too easy. Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
Tyranis Marcus Bloody Heathens 1463	Posted - 2016.01.12 19:04:17 - [7] - Quote Gadget Helmsdottir wrote: Cornelius Carausius wrote: Their purpose is to be small volume, cloaky, fast, sneaky transport ships, and yet I wouldn't take one into nullsec, at least unscouted. If there is a bubble, I need to wait for the "blockade" to leave before I attempt to go through it. What's the point of being a blockade runner if I have to scout myself through or patiently wait for the blockade to disband? I just want to make the kessel run in less than 14 12 parsecs! Maybe you can shave off a Parsec or two by finding a wormhole connection bypassing the chokepoint? Shorter runs are faster runs. Seriously though, the BR needs an Achilles' heel. Giving it the power to just shamelessly bypass an interdictor, how do you stop it at all while in route unless you rely on pilot error in your favor. --Gadget Smartbombs. Lots of people are lazy and warp gate to gate. You'll see the same guy making the same run through the same area often. It's not that difficult to prepare. He's right, though, the blockade runner is only a name. It's never really been a blockade runner. T3 cruisers and interceptors are the real blockade runners. They just can't haul ****. Do not run. We are your friends.
Iain Cariaba 2332	Posted - 2016.01.12 20:28:43 - [8] - Quote Cornelius Carausius wrote: Their purpose is to be small volume, cloaky, fast, sneaky transport ships, and yet I wouldn't take one into nullsec, at least unscouted. If there is a bubble, I need to wait for the "blockade" to leave before I attempt to go through it. What's the point of being a blockade runner if I have to scout myself through or patiently wait for the blockade to disband? I just want to make the kessel run in less than 14 12 parsecs! As someone who uses a blockade runner quite frequently in null and wormholes, I have to ask, why should my skill in piloting a blockade runner be negated simply because you're bad at piloting it yourself? EvE is hard. It's harder if you're stupid. I couldn't have said it better. Hello, Mr Carebear. Would you like some cheese with that whine?
Cornelius Carausius Concordiat Pandemic Horde 4	Posted - 2016.01.12 20:36:35 - [9] - Quote Iain Cariaba wrote: simply because you're bad at piloting it yourself? Why the salt, fam? Thanks everyone for the input and discussion. It's an interesting topic!
FT Diomedes The Graduates 2221	Posted - 2016.01.12 21:06:24 - [10] - Quote Blockade Running ships do get through most gate camps. Not 100% of the time, but often enough to make it interesting for both sides. Danger adds excitement. Excitement is fun. Why do you hate fun? CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

Iain Cariaba 2333	Posted - 2016.01.12 21:59:51 - [11] - Quote Cornelius Carausius wrote: Iain Cariaba wrote: simply because you're bad at piloting it yourself? Why the salt, fam? Thanks everyone for the input and discussion. It's an interesting topic! Obviously you're new to PF&I. That isn't salt, not even close. EvE is hard. It's harder if you're stupid. I couldn't have said it better. Hello, Mr Carebear. Would you like some cheese with that whine?
Sophia Mileghere Scandium Defense and Security Inc. Dark - Alliance 53	Posted - 2016.01.12 22:23:31 - [12] - Quote Maybe with an new type of Transportship. It should have less cargo space and not a +2 on warp core strengh.
Gadget Helmsdottir Gadget's Workshop 108	Posted - 2016.01.13 00:07:43 - [13] - Quote Sophia Mileghere wrote: Maybe with an new type of Transportship. It should have less cargo space and not a +2 on warp core strengh. I wouldn't have a problem with a new type of transport being bubble immune, but it shouldn't be cloaky as well. It's the combo that would make it a non-choice to have. --Gadget Work smarter, not harder. --Scrooge McDuck, an eminent old-Earth economist
Daniela Doran Ministry of War Amarr Empire 297	Posted - 2016.01.13 04:31:51 - [14] - Quote Scipio Artelius wrote: No, definitely not. That would be way too OP. If you could have a 15000 m^3 cloaky nullified hauler, it would never face any risk. I use a blockade runner in null regularly and the MWD- Cloak trick works great to either get back to gate and jump, or move out of the bubbles and then warp. It doesn't need nullification, just piloting. Let's not make the game too easy. The MWD cloak-insta warp trick works on Blockade runners?
Scipio Artelius The Vendunari End of Life 43166	Posted - 2016.01.13 05:07:39 - [15] - Quote Daniela Doran wrote: The MWD cloak-insta warp trick works on Blockade runners? Yep, it works on a blockade runner, just the same as on anything. The difference is that a BR can normally warp cloaked, so you don't need to do it. However if you jump a gate and find yourself in a bubble, then the same process can be used to escape from the bubble while cloaked. Without using the MWD, blockade runners are fairly slow, so if you just align and cloak, then it's usually easy for an interceptor or a dictor to decloak you. However, if you hit the MWD before cloaking, then you gain the extra speed as you move out of the bubble and have a better chance of not being decloaked. It works great if you are going to try to get back to gate cloaked and also if you align in an odd direction rather than the shortest distance out of the bubble. Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
Teckos Pech The Executives Executive Outcomes 4338	Posted - 2016.01.13 05:12:58 - [16] - Quote Scipio Artelius wrote: Daniela Doran wrote: The MWD cloak-insta warp trick works on Blockade runners? Yep, it works on a blockade runner, just the same as on anything. The difference is that a BR can normally warp cloaked, so you don't need to do it. However if you jump a gate and find yourself in a bubble, then the same process can be used to escape from the bubble while cloaked. Without using the MWD, blockade runners are fairly slow, so if you just align and cloak, then it's usually easy for an interceptor or a dictor to decloak you. However, if you hit the MWD before cloaking, then you gain the extra speed as you move out of the bubble and have a better chance of not being decloaked. It works great if you are going to try to get back to gate cloaked and also if you align in an odd direction rather than the shortest distance out of the bubble. I'd also suggest changing direction as good ceptor pilots will try to note your alignment as well. Upgrading Local to Eliminate All AFK Influence So Local Chat vanished, now what?
elitatwo Eve Minions The-Company 1022	Posted - 2016.01.13 06:06:28 - [17] - Quote Cornelius Carausius wrote: ...I just want to make the kessel run in less than 14 12 parsecs! I was always curious what this was supposed to mean since parsec is not a time value or statement. A parsec is a lenght value or 3.3 lightyears if you wish. The statement itself would need at least a notion of a time value as in "I wanna do this run in x time" but what you get is "I wanna do this run in 46,2 lightyears". So what are you saying? Eve Minions is recruiting. Learn from about pvp, learn about ships and how to fly them correctly. Small gang and solo action in high, low and nullsec and w-space alike. We will teach you everything you need and want to know.
Gadget Helmsdottir Gadget's Workshop 110	Posted - 2016.01.13 13:28:02 - [18] - Quote elitatwo wrote: Cornelius Carausius wrote: ...I just want to make the kessel run in less than 14 12 parsecs! I was always curious what this was supposed to mean since parsec is not a time value or statement. A parsec is a lenght value or 3.3 lightyears if you wish. The statement itself would need at least a notion of a time value as in "I wanna do this run in x time" but what you get is "I wanna do this run in 46,2 lightyears". So what are you saying? Ask Lucas.... Work smarter, not harder. --Scrooge McDuck, an eminent old-Earth economist
Kaarous Aldurald Black Hydra Consortium. 15731	Posted - 2016.01.13 13:56:19 - [19] - Quote Less ships in this game need to have nullification, not more. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs. Best Meltdown Ever.
Daniela Doran Ministry of War Amarr Empire 297	Posted - 2016.01.13 13:57:14 - [20] - Quote Scipio Artelius wrote: Daniela Doran wrote: The MWD cloak-insta warp trick works on Blockade runners? Yep, it works on a blockade runner, just the same as on anything. The difference is that a BR can normally warp cloaked, so you don't need to do it. However if you jump a gate and find yourself in a bubble, then the same process can be used to escape from the bubble while cloaked. Without using the MWD, blockade runners are fairly slow, so if you just align and cloak, then it's usually easy for an interceptor or a dictor to decloak you. However, if you hit the MWD before cloaking, then you gain the extra speed as you move out of the bubble and have a better chance of not being decloaked. It works great if you are going to try to get back to gate cloaked and also if you align in an odd direction rather than the shortest distance out of the bubble. My goodness, so sharp as always Scipio, and tyvm. I thought CCP was gonna nerf this MWD trick at some point but I guess it's safe to assume they aren't. Now it's about time I go on SiSi and master this trick.

Paranoid Loyd 8168	Posted - 2016.01.13 14:39:38 - [21] - Quote One nullifies their BR by using a covert cyno. "Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata Fix the Prospect!
Thor Kerrigan The High and Mighty Carebear Abortion Clinic 654	Posted - 2016.01.14 00:54:41 - [22] - Quote They also need a jump drive and 30 times more cargo space. Carebear Abortion Clinic is recruiting!
Lan Wang Knights of the Posing Meat FETID 2284	Posted - 2016.01.14 09:06:54 - [23] - Quote Amber Starview wrote: Yes please =ƒÿü +1 ..... Make it easier for smaller less skilled groups or solo pilots to live in null , yes I said easier the dreaded word on the forums Get skilled, they are soo hard to catch when flown properly "Yeah. Put your tears in a jet can and leave them on your undock for your assailants to pick up. If they're camping you, I'm sure they're going to get thirsty." - Darth Squeemus ............................... Angel Cartel \|\| Serpentis
Frostys Virpio KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 2489	Posted - 2016.01.14 13:12:31 - [24] - Quote Paranoid Loyd wrote: One nullifies their BR by using a covert cyno. I wanted to "INB4 but my covert cyno isn't nullified" but then I remembered they can...


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