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Drusus Rensus Gallente Viper Intel Squad Pure.	Posted - 2007.01.24 18:33:00 - [1] It looks as though they could make a pretty credible claim to Scalding Pass, being the only sov claiming alliance there. Are they re-establishing themselves as a region holding power in their own right, or are they considered to be subservient to Red, as Fix or Xeles are to BoB?
Leto Twin Amarr Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.24 18:37:00 - [2] Originally by: Drusus Rensus It looks as though they could make a pretty credible claim to Scalding Pass, being the only sov claiming alliance there. Are they re-establishing themselves as a region holding power in their own right, or are they considered to be subservient to Red, as Fix or Xeles are to BoB? Wasn't this posted a few days ago? I am still having nightmares of the Dread Bees. Or the Capital Bees.... o.O!
Omeega Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.01.24 18:38:00 - [3] Pretty tough to make my choice atm the CA vs LV thread or Goons vs BOB type #1 for CALV type #2 for GOBOBON Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.24 18:41:00 - [4] Originally by: Drusus Rensus or are they considered to be subservient to Red Yup. ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Drusus Rensus Gallente Viper Intel Squad Pure.	Posted - 2007.01.24 18:43:00 - [5] Originally by: Leto Twin Wasn't this posted a few days ago? Yeah, it was. There was an unfortunate censorship incident and an alliance change since then. I have a little problem with people telling me what I can and cannot say.
Drusus Rensus Gallente Viper Intel Squad Pure.	Posted - 2007.01.24 18:46:00 - [6] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: Drusus Rensus or are they considered to be subservient to Red Yup. Interesting. How do yo decide that? Is it based on who has ultimate control of the outposts, or just your gut feeling, or does GoonSwarm tell you directly that they answer to Red, or what?
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.24 18:52:00 - [7] Originally by: Drusus Rensus Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: Drusus Rensus or are they considered to be subservient to Red Yup. Interesting. How do yo decide that? Is it based on who has ultimate control of the outposts, or just your gut feeling, or does GoonSwarm tell you directly that they answer to Red, or what? They requested their space to be marked as Ra space. ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Drusus Rensus Gallente Viper Intel Squad Pure.	Posted - 2007.01.24 18:55:00 - [8] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: Drusus Rensus Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: Drusus Rensus or are they considered to be subservient to Red Yup. Interesting. How do yo decide that? Is it based on who has ultimate control of the outposts, or just your gut feeling, or does GoonSwarm tell you directly that they answer to Red, or what? They requested their space to be marked as Ra space. I guess that says it all. Question answered. Thanks Joshua.
Drusus Rensus Gallente Viper Intel Squad Pure.	Posted - 2007.01.24 19:02:00 - [9] Edited by: Drusus Rensus on 24/01/2007 18:59:27 Isn't it starting to look like there needs to be a third-tier form of organization in the game? Federation, or faction, or coalition, or axis, or something? Right now it looks like there are more or less three of these in the game, with a few "odd men out". Drusus
Ather Ialeas Amarr Karjala Inc. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.01.24 19:22:00 - [10] Originally by: Omeega Pretty tough to make my choice atm the CA vs LV thread or Goons vs BOB type #1 for CALV type #2 for GOBOBON Lets just combine those...it's clearly BoB+CA vs LV+Goons. Oh and I thought Goons have been on the map for at least two alliance map updates now.

Shamis Orzoz Sniggerdly	Posted - 2007.01.24 19:27:00 - [11] Originally by: DB Preacher Are GoonSwarm ever going to be allowed to build up in any way in 0.0 space again? No. For the moment, we are leaving syndicate but we will continue to monitor the GoonSwarm and should we feel that they have done anything of note in the game, we will destroy it. I am sure that some of those remaining GoonSwarm members will be rejoicing at having survived this long against us but I can only ask you were you have been recently. Keep watching Goons, because we will. We will be back, with gangs, with fleets, with BoB. We command your game now. As long as you remain in GoonSwarm, we make you play our way and nothing you say will really convince yourself that this isn't true.
Kharakan Amarr Morticus Impendium	Posted - 2007.01.24 19:34:00 - [12] Anyone want to tell me why BoB annihilated the swarm? I think I was on an eve-break when it happened. this signature space is claimed in the name of eris, haha I got to him first. neeneer
ceaon Gallente Porandor	Posted - 2007.01.24 19:38:00 - [13] Originally by: Kharakan Anyone want to tell me why BoB annihilated the swarm? I think I was on an eve-break when it happened. waz like : dude A make a post related to B B waz a bob and the post waz related to hes real life BoB say kick him or war GS kick A but bob still make war + @@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@@
Pesadel0 Vagabundos	Posted - 2007.01.24 19:46:00 - [14] Originally by: ceaon Originally by: Kharakan Anyone want to tell me why BoB annihilated the swarm? I think I was on an eve-break when it happened. waz like : dude A make a post related to B B waz a bob and the post waz related to hes real life BoB say kick him or war GS kick A but bob still make war Waz like this:dude had a stupid forum sig relating to a very respected eve player( ;( ) Bob and several people told goons to stop playing with something ,that frankly shouldn't be played with. Several chest beating after and "we are better than BoB ",spamming the eve-o boards etc,goons were declared war and they were whipped out from map. Now they are back :)
Drusus Rensus Gallente Viper Intel Squad Pure.	Posted - 2007.01.24 19:47:00 - [15] Edited by: Drusus Rensus on 24/01/2007 19:46:00 Originally by: Shamis Orzoz Originally by: DB Preacher Are GoonSwarm ever going to be allowed to build up in any way in 0.0 space again? No. For the moment, we are leaving syndicate but we will continue to monitor the GoonSwarm and should we feel that they have done anything of note in the game, we will destroy it. I am sure that some of those remaining GoonSwarm members will be rejoicing at having survived this long against us but I can only ask you were you have been recently. Keep watching Goons, because we will. We will be back, with gangs, with fleets, with BoB. We command your game now. As long as you remain in GoonSwarm, we make you play our way and nothing you say will really convince yourself that this isn't true. Interesting quote. I guess Scalding Pass doesn't qualify as anything. Which means that whomever they kicked out of there didn't lose anything. That must be a comforting thought for the former residents.
Shin Ra BURN EDEN	Posted - 2007.01.24 20:01:00 - [16] Oh my god someone said something and it didn't turn out that way. Grab this and we can hang off db preacher's every word some more.....
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.24 20:09:00 - [17] /me chuckles Show me once they have done something of note in the game and we'll consider doing something about it ;) Said it before and I'll say it again: In comedy, timing is everything. Believe it or not, the joke is not on BoB. Move along now chaps, OP has been answered. dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Kharakan Amarr Morticus Impendium	Posted - 2007.01.24 20:13:00 - [18] DB, you're the resident whorum fore for BoB. Can you give your version of why you lot wiped out the goonies? this signature space is claimed in the name of eris, haha I got to him first. neeneer
Ather Ialeas Amarr Karjala Inc. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.01.24 20:14:00 - [19] Edited by: Ather Ialeas on 24/01/2007 20:11:26 Originally by: DB Preacher Believe it or not, the joke is not on BoB. Then why everyone's always laughing to you? They're certainly not laughing WITH you... EDIT: Obviously, this is my personal remark to another person's "omg we're so cool" post. No alliance/corp crap behind this.
Drusus Rensus Gallente Viper Intel Squad Pure.	Posted - 2007.01.24 20:24:00 - [20] Edited by: Drusus Rensus on 24/01/2007 20:21:40 Originally by: DB Preacher /me chuckles Show me once they have done something of note in the game and we'll consider doing something about it ;) dbp Well, speaking as someone who just got the boot out of immensea by them and their friends, I'd say that they're doing something of note. I know that you weren't in any of those fights, but TCF and Red have said themselves that GoonSwarm is a big part of the reason for their successes over KOS, V, Maelstrom, et. al. so far, and, don't look now, but if things keep progressing like they are, they and their friends look poised to take over the entire south-eastern part of the map. From your lofty perch, maybe that still isn't anything of note, but man, from where I'm sitting, it sure looks like "something of note" to me. Drusus

DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.24 20:50:00 - [21] Edited by: DB Preacher on 24/01/2007 20:47:48 Originally by: Kharakan DB, you're the resident whorum fore for BoB. Can you give your version of why you lot wiped out the goonies? Absolutely not. I'm afraid that won't ever be dragged through the forums again. Don't even bother asking. Originally by: Drusus Rensus Well, speaking as someone who just got the boot out of immensea by them and their friends, I'd say that they're doing something of note. I know that you weren't in any of those fights, but TCF and Red have said themselves that GoonSwarm is a big part of the reason for their successes over KOS, V, Maelstrom, et. al. so far, and, don't look now, but if things keep progressing like they are, they and their friends look poised to take over the entire south-eastern part of the map. From your lofty perch, maybe that still isn't anything of note, but man, from where I'm sitting, it sure looks like "something of note" to me. Drusus Ah I get the reason for the thread now. You're alliance gets pwned by a massive collection of pilots so you are looking for accountability. Goonswarm are just a bunch of meatshields for RA. RA were too small to be able to contain curse by themselves and needed allies of some sort and the mass numbers of the goons seem to fit that slot well. RA had been pushed right back to one station and with the extra numbers, they have managed to reclaim most of their land. Finally, something of a decent size that we might be able to get our teeths in that actually challenges us is rising in the East. Why bother destroying it until it is actually worthwhile of our attention? I sincerely hope the RA/goonswarm/ca and whoever else is over there manages to get their stuff together because right now, we barely have a threat left in Eve. From the big five before Kali hit: D2 are not a threat, they can't even organise the destruction of the single Outbreak Pos sitting in their space for a month. It's not even like they are doing anything else. Everyone knows my extensive thoughts on D2 anyway so I won't repeat the rest. LV are on the backfoot against the massive numbers but seem to be holding their own for the moment however, they aren't exactly likely to be able to push against us atm. RA have joined with CA, goons and whoever else and are possibly the only alliance with enough numbers and desire to actually fight back if we invade their space. ASCN is dead. We are the fifth "big power" in 0.0. So yes, Goons and their friends may have destroyed you but forgive me for not thinking that it was something significant in eve. If they were to destroy LV, then maybe I'd personally start to be interested. dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Drusus Rensus Gallente Viper Intel Squad Pure.	Posted - 2007.01.24 21:04:00 - [22] Edited by: Drusus Rensus on 24/01/2007 21:02:49 Edited by: Drusus Rensus on 24/01/2007 21:01:21 The reason for the thread was as stated. Just looking at the (in game) map, it looks like they "own" a region. I was just wondering whether they were really going to "own" that region, or whether they were just considered a (your words) "meatshield" as you have Fix and Xeles. Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 24/01/2007 20:47:48 So yes, Goons and their friends may have destroyed you but forgive me for not thinking that it was something significant in eve. Oh. Forgiven gladly. I would have been suprised if you thought that anything that anyone else did in Eve has much significance. It would be out of character for you. By that standard, I guess you're off the hook, and Goon can do pretty much as they please. So, when you said they wouldn't be allowed to build up in 0.0 "at all" you really meant to the point that they would pose a challenge to you? And when you said that you would dictate their game from then on, you really meant that they wouldn't be allowed to defeat you? I guess there's an obvious logic to that. Quote: If they were to destroy LV, then maybe I'd personally start to be interested. dbp Can I... um... quote you on that later?
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.24 21:15:00 - [23] Edited by: DB Preacher on 24/01/2007 21:14:51 Sure, Everyone seems to love quoting me. However, read what I said carefully. I said I personally would be interested. Whether that is inline with what the CEO's of BoB are interested in is completely something else. Regardless of what peeps think on these boards, I am but another mere cog in BoB's wheel. I am neither the drive shaft, nor the steering wheel nor a driver. Originally by: Drusus Rensus So, when you said they wouldn't be allowed to build up in 0.0 "at all" you really meant to the point that they would pose a challenge to you? And when you said that you would dictate their game from then on, you really meant that they wouldn't be allowed to defeat you? I guess there's an obvious logic to that. Originally by: DB Preacher For the moment, we are leaving syndicate but we will continue to monitor the GoonSwarm and should we feel that they have done anything of note in the game, we will destroy it. Read, Understand, Dissapear into 1.0 and enjoy your new alliance without worrying about such things because they were obviously too much for you and your alliance. dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Joerd Toastius Octavian Vanguard	Posted - 2007.01.24 21:19:00 - [24] Every time DBP posts I get a little less interested in BoB - as an enemy, as a political sideshow, as a competent organisation. It's like Bananaman suddenly announcing he's a flat-earther - makes it a little harder to take him seriously. Oh well.
Drusus Rensus Gallente Viper Intel Squad Pure.	Posted - 2007.01.24 21:23:00 - [25] Edited by: Drusus Rensus on 24/01/2007 21:20:12 Originally by: DB Preacher Read, Understand, Dissapear into 1.0 and enjoy your new alliance without worrying about such things because they were obviously too much for you and your alliance. Well, I'm trying to read and understand. On the one hand you're saying you don't speak for BoB, on the other hand it sure looked like you were saying what BoB was going to do. I try anyway to be pretty careful about running my mouth about what my alliance is going to do. Maybe yours works differently. Thanks for the well wishes with my new alliance. I will take your advice (gladly) and leave the mess in the south to you and yours. Drusus
Ather Ialeas Amarr Karjala Inc. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.01.24 21:26:00 - [26] Originally by: DB Preacher D2 are not a threat, they can't even organise the destruction of the single Outbreak Pos sitting in their space for a month. It's not even like they are doing anything else. Everyone knows my extensive thoughts on D2 anyway so I won't repeat the rest. Did it ever occur to you that there could be a very good reason why for example IRON didn't kick ISS out of Pure Blind or other Northern entities aren't jumping the gun on kicking out all possible hostile forces (triumvirate comes to mind as an example). You clearly need more spy alts.
Logan Williams Infinitus Odium Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.24 21:35:00 - [27] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: Drusus Rensus Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: Drusus Rensus or are they considered to be subservient to Red Yup. Interesting. How do yo decide that? Is it based on who has ultimate control of the outposts, or just your gut feeling, or does GoonSwarm tell you directly that they answer to Red, or what? They requested their space to be marked as Ra space. Keep your map coments to the map thread please. Thank you.
Joerd Toastius Octavian Vanguard	Posted - 2007.01.24 21:51:00 - [28] Originally by: Logan Williams Edited by: Logan Williams on 24/01/2007 21:43:50 Edited by: Logan Williams on 24/01/2007 21:35:17 Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: Drusus Rensus Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: Drusus Rensus or are they considered to be subservient to Red Yup. Interesting. How do yo decide that? Is it based on who has ultimate control of the outposts, or just your gut feeling, or does GoonSwarm tell you directly that they answer to Red, or what? They requested their space to be marked as Ra space. Keep your map coments to the map thread please. Thank you. I think it's really quite peculiar that you can so freely give out information which has nothing to do with your corp or with the others asking those questions. Keep the map up and please don't volunter information you gain on a TRUSTED, NON-INVOLVED level. I also think that asking for favors "Show as alliance X" is also not good and that the map should be reflected on a "as-is" basis. Oh, shush. The thread is about the map, he's more than justified in clarifying decisions here.
Kharakan Amarr Morticus Impendium	Posted - 2007.01.24 21:56:00 - [29] Originally by: Logan Williams Edited by: Logan Williams on 24/01/2007 21:43:50 Edited by: Logan Williams on 24/01/2007 21:35:17 Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: Drusus Rensus Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: Drusus Rensus or are they considered to be subservient to Red Yup. Interesting. How do yo decide that? Is it based on who has ultimate control of the outposts, or just your gut feeling, or does GoonSwarm tell you directly that they answer to Red, or what? They requested their space to be marked as Ra space. Keep your map coments to the map thread please. Thank you. I think it's really quite peculiar that you can so freely give out information which has nothing to do with your corp or with the others asking those questions. Keep the map up and please don't volunter information you gain on a TRUSTED, NON-INVOLVED level. I also think that asking for favors "Show as alliance X" is also not good and that the map should be reflected on a "as-is" basis. His map, his rules. Don't like it? Do yer own friggin' map. this signature space is claimed in the name of eris, haha I got to him first. neeneer
Cupdeez Vengeance of the Fallen Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.24 22:09:00 - [30] I rule all 0.0 systems in the name of My self and CA. I got a good deal on E-bay what can i say!!! Signature filesize exceeds max limit of 24000 bytes. Mail us if you have questions -Eldo Davip



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