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Posted - 2016.01.20 13:46:16 -
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Leonerd Dice wrote: its got pretty good sensor strength i think ccp is telling you to scan with it.
The Prospect has pathetic sensor strength for a T2 ship. This probably comes naturally from the Venture having one of the worst sensor strengths in the entire game. Also, sensor strength has nothing to do with your ability to scan (only with your ability to be scanned).
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2016.01.20 14:19:27 -
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Leonerd Dice wrote:youre right it was a mistake for me to look at the attributes i dont care about yet. ill stick with my first argument. and thats that you need to scan for anomalies and gas sites obviously to be able to gas mine. so theres where ccp wants you to fit a scanner onto it. You need a probe launcher to find any of the exploration content, to say nothing of w-space. And yet, the vast majority of the exploration content is designed for ships that are not intended to be scan ships.
Instead, they expect you to use a scan ship to find a site, and then warp there in a suitable ship, or just give up on some of your precious fitting space to do both. Or, in a pinch, you can bring some scanning equipment along in your mobile depotGǪ
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Tippia
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Posted - 2016.01.20 14:23:59 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote: Gotta pull you up on that - that's not sensor strength, that's sig radius. The smaller your sig, the harder you are to scan. Sensor strength doesn't contribute to how easily you can be scanned.
Did they change that? It used to be that your signal strength was Signature Radius / Sensor Strength, later capped to remove the unprobable T3s.
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Posted - 2016.01.20 18:05:53 -
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Asinae Antaelis wrote:Covops frig can cloak, scan site AND hack data/relic without refitting. GǪbecause their purpose is to be cloaky exploration ships. Note how, while it can do hacking sites, it is useless for mining and combat sites.
Quote:but the prospect must refit for gaz mining! Why? Well, for one, it's because you have to start cod4.exe to find Gaz. For another, it's because it's not an exploration ship GÇö it's a gas miner. If you want to use it for an unrelated purpose like, say, exploration, you're going to have to refit it. Or better yet, just use ship that's better fit for purpose altogether.
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Posted - 2016.01.20 19:16:31 -
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Cristl wrote:What is added by forcing people to scan the sites, then safe up, swap probes for a huffer, and go back? It provides value to both scan ships and to the mobile depot, and maintains strict role separation to the Prospect itself. For something as profitable as gas mining, it ensures that it's not trivially done in single ship, but rather requires a broader spectrum (possibly even fostering some collaboration in the process).
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Posted - 2016.01.21 00:33:40 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote:I vote for a covops Rorqual. Now this is something I think we can all get on-board with. The poor thing needs something, desperately, and while I'm sure it's at the top of everyone's wish list, I just don't see CCP giving it the asteroid-doomsday it deserves. 
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Posted - 2016.01.21 03:31:10 -
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Leonerd Dice wrote:Well yeah, if you're already in the wormhole you want to scan why not hop into a ship thats better at scanning first. But when you're in high sec this becomes an even bigger waste of time then using a mobile depot. Then there's no problem, now is there?
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Posted - 2016.01.21 17:09:59 -
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Leonerd Dice wrote:Yeah there is a problem. Not all of us live in a wormhole. If that's the problem, then just go live there GÇö problem solved. Not living in a wormhole means that there's even less of a problem of the kind you're trying to suggest.
Quote:Okay my turn.
Answer me this.
What's so bad about giving the Prospect an extra high slot? Because it doesn't need one. Scanning ships, stations, Orcas, Bowheads, and mobile depots exist for a reason. Your unwillingness to use them does not mean that there is the slightest bit of a problem with the Prospect or that it needs anything more than it has to do its job.
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