Did they ever add the ability to scan down cloakers with probes. I know there are a lot of old topic spread across plenty of sites that say cloakers should remain clocked but I think its kind of unbalanced when you have a ship that cant be countered . Stay out of decloak range and laurch torpidos. Are they locking on to you? cloak again.

I agree that clockers need to be hard to find. But how many people drag probes with them? In particularly combat probes. Not that many, but if they did it could become a awesome game of cat and mouse or in fleet battles a race to see what cloaker can find one another first. Putting this into place would add more depth into playing a cloaker than afk wait at bait them bomb give me my look.

Are they locking on to you? cloak again.

Even if you could probe them people would just complain about how hard it was.

And how cloaking is the worst thing in eve but investing SP in probing is a waste of time.

This is why I say they should make probes able to detect cloakers. You have combat probes in game but what are they really good for? It you turn probes into a counter cloaker it would validate that module and its skill line. I honestly don't see why it wasn't put in the game from the start.

This is why I say they should make probes able to detect cloakers. You have combat probes in game but what are they really good for? It you turn probes into a counter cloaker it would validate that module and its skill line. I honestly don't see why it wasn't put in the game from the start.

I heard bitching in local how afk cloak/non-afk cloaking is killing the game will guilt trip them to decloak and die in front of you. Make sure to say "you're offended" of cloaks.

This thread comes up on almost a weekly basis. In fact, I'd be surprised if there wasn't a nerf cloaking thread in the first 2 pages on this forum section. Almost every single one of them goes like this:

1. OP posts a post with a new (lol) idea that always boils down to some variation of the following:
- "There's a big meanie who is sitting in my system and not doing anything, but I don't know where he is and I can't ever just go next door. I can't find said meanie and even though I know that he's probably at work and poses no threat at all, I wont do anything in my system that I absolutely can't leave ever because he might not be at work and I might lose a ship. CCP please stop the meanie from being able to do nothing to me because he's probably at work"

2. Thread gets trolled because its been done literally to death. This horse has been beaten so hard and so often that it's little more than a memory of a memory of a red smear on the grass, and yet it STILL WONT DIE! In fact it's been done so many times that this particular horse is now undead; even if it does die, it will still be remembered and parodied.

3. Someone comes along and suggests that AFK cloakers can't hurt you, because they are, by their very definition, AFK. No one ever lost a ship to someone who ISN'T PLAYING THE GAME.

4. Someone else comes along and points out that while the cloaker might be AFK, he might not be, and so we have Schrodinger's Hot Dropper. The cyno pilot who might be AFK... but he might not be as well, and you will only know for sure when he decloaks, points and lights his candle. (Yes, I know this isn't how the cat works)

5. Someone else comes along and suggests that you use bait and setup a TARP. Or have a defence fleet on standby. Heaven forbid you have to actually fight to defend your space.

6. A further person comes along and suggests that the problem isn't cloaking AFK in your system that you can't possibly leave ever, but that you KNOW that the person is AFK in your system... and perhaps local should be removed because free 100% accurate intel is probably not the best thing in the game and if you didn't know that the big meanie was in your system, you wouldn't be worried about leaving the undock/POS.

7. Then another person pokes their head in and complains that local is 100% NEEDED because D-Scan and probing are such bad mechanics, and IF YOU TAKE MY LOCAL AWAY IM QUITTING FOREVER AND NO YOU CAN'T HAVE MY STUFF!

8. Someone asks if they can have 7's stuff.

We end up with another thread which goes on for pages and pages between complains about local, defence fleets, inability to just go next door, people who aren't playing the game but are playing the meta, lots of bickering and in the end nothing gets solved. CCP wont remove cloaking because it would mess with waaay too many things and it creates content (which is a good thing) by removing content (which is a bad thing) but they can't really think of any way to do it without a complete overhaul of the local and scanning systems.

Now that I've had this entire thread's conversation, can we just let it die? Please?

This is why I say they should make probes able to detect cloakers. You have combat probes in game but what are they really good for? It you turn probes into a counter cloaker it would validate that module and its skill line. I honestly don't see why it wasn't put in the game from the start.

The cloaking mechanic is just fine the way it is.

If for some reason they do decide to change it so they can be probed down, then they should compensate the cloaked ship with something like being able to activate certain mods while cloaked.

...Then again, how do you "counter" a rock? ...

This is why I say they should make probes able to detect cloakers. You have combat probes in game but what are they really good for? It you turn probes into a counter cloaker it would validate that module and its skill line. I honestly don't see why it wasn't put in the game from the start.

if guy is cloaked he is not combating so why should combat probes find him?