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Benco97
Gallente Multiverse Corporation
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Posted - 2007.01.26 01:24:00 -
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All you people who actually made this game and keep it running and come up with new things for it.. do you ever feel a little sad when someone comes on here and tells everyone how much they dislike something about it? I mean.. yeah, you can take quite a lot and ignore it but does it sometimes get to you, any of you? I've been tihnking about this and other similar things recently and i'd just like to say thank you, thank you all for making this game and thank you all for putting up with us players. I hope you have as much fun as you give us.
...damn.. this wasn't supposed to be a touchy-feely thread.. I de-railed myself in the OP..
"MY GOD KEEP THIS AWAY FROM BENCO97!!!!!" - Constantine Arcanum |
Torlack
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Posted - 2007.01.26 01:29:00 -
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You are usually so busy working on the next great thing that you don't have time to really get into all of the bashing.
However, you can never totally cut yourself off because you need the feedback.
But you also realize that for every flame, there are 1000 people who either love the feature or just don't care.
And, you do get use to it and don't let it get to you.
For the new people, it can be a downer for a bit.
Thank you notes are always welcome.
Torlack Another game developer
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Asinia Au
Amarr Order of the Blessed Sisters of Amarr
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Posted - 2007.01.26 01:31:00 -
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Wel then, sorry, but I guess I'll put it off its rails a little more.
I want to thank CCP as well for creating such a detailed, engrossing, and satisfying game! I never played UO, but I did play SWG when it wa young as well as some other sandbox games, and all I can say is, this game is incredible!
Great work! And I hope you can keep it up for years to come!
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Humpalot
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Posted - 2007.01.26 01:46:00 -
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I have seen the devs make comments on how hearing/reading player feedback bugs them so yes...I'd say they do get upset. Mostly it seems because they do in fact try very hard to make this a great game and most players do not realize the realities of maintaining a game like this. In a game like this the balance issues must be hell to stay on top of.
On top of that it seems to be human nature to complain about what is wrong and not mention what is right. Just the nature of the beast I guess.
So while I will be one to ***** and moan about this or that I do think CCP has made the best MMO to date and despite many, many people out there trying to one up each other with the next great thing EVE still sits atop the pile.
The Devs are like our parents. While we disappoint them and whine and gripe like any surly teenager in the end we all lub each other.
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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.26 01:48:00 -
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Originally by: Benco97 All you people who actually made this game and keep it running and come up with new things for it.. do you ever feel a little sad when someone comes on here and tells everyone how much they dislike something about it? I mean.. yeah, you can take quite a lot and ignore it but does it sometimes get to you, any of you? I've been tihnking about this and other similar things recently and i'd just like to say thank you, thank you all for making this game and thank you all for putting up with us players. I hope you have as much fun as you give us.
...damn.. this wasn't supposed to be a touchy-feely thread.. I de-railed myself in the OP..
They'll only feel bad when people stop comming here to make negative comments. And rightly so. People moan because they care about something.
The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
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Benco97
Gallente Multiverse Corporation
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Posted - 2007.01.26 01:55:00 -
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Originally by: Torlack Thank you notes are always welcome.
oh my word, this gives me an idea and a half...
Does anyone know how to make a plushie Fedo? And how much it would take to deliver from Wales to CCP HQ?
"MY GOD KEEP THIS AWAY FROM BENCO97!!!!!" - Constantine Arcanum |
DarkMatter
Amarr Mineral Aquisition Group
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Posted - 2007.01.26 02:13:00 -
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Edited by: DarkMatter on 26/01/2007 02:11:49 Well, I think there are many people who have jobs where you design/manufacture/construct a product for a customer.
From my auto mechanic days to my current mechanical design engineering days, it's all the same to me. I try to do my best, and if that's not good enough for the customer, they are free to go elsewhere... (It can be different for someone who is building a McDonald's hamburger, and my job where I design multi-million dollar machines, a bit more on the line, but it's still the same as far as emotion is concerned)
I really don't think anyone can hurt the Devs' feelings... They certainly should not be taking any of it to heart...
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Par'Gellen
Low Grade Ore
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Posted - 2007.01.26 09:46:00 -
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Edited by: Par''Gellen on 26/01/2007 09:43:27 I remember when they replaced the original ship voice (cool cybernetic sounding female voice) with the one that's in there now (that mispronounces "Whoorping" and sounds half asleep). I remember someone from CCP taking all the negative feedback about it kind of personally. I think it was his girlfriend or something. I can't really remember the details it's been so long. Notice it stayed in spite of the mountains of feedback.
Dev's Girlfriend > Playerbase (I wonder if we could get her to ask about some of the bugs that need fixing!) ---
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hotgirl933
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Posted - 2007.01.26 10:00:00 -
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lets give love to CCP but .... the problem is they make lots of noise about u beaut features etc but if they dont work properly are over buggy and are rushed then ppl get upset
its all well and good to spruik a good game and mash the PR button every few months to grow subscriber numbers but and this is an important butt that just keeps going over their heads
If youre going to do something please make sure u do it properly - firstly u should take 2 weeks every 3 months and go over as many of the old low priority UI bugs etc and fix em - where are corp devisional wallets - where are concord and interbus agents that can be used without that other bug wheres the fix for the cloaked bug
why have scan probes been borekd again - why havent level 5 agents been fixed. why is NPC goods trading still stuck in a tight volume- price and time based reset band.
why are u still rushing new features when old promises, PR hype etc etc needs fixing stop trying to run instead walk and fix - a very big hint.
unless the sudden rush every 3 months of a new patch thats totally bugged and a massive increase in subscriber numbers is pushing CCP into blizzard $$$$ ch ching bottom of the barrel mass number mode in which case youre going the way of SWG very quickly
and then there are petitions
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Hasak Rain
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.01.26 10:15:00 -
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Every single MMO on the planet has a forum where the same 40-60 people are whining about something and their voices usually cover up any praise someone might post on the same board.
Not to mention that whining is controversial while praise is usually looked at as being "boring." It is much more fun {for some people} to read the whines and either bash the poster or chime in with their own opinion to support the said whining.
The way I look at it is if the game sucked, no one would say much of anything or care. Since most people love the game, the bad things in it get magnified on the forums which makes it seem like the game has many huge problems when in reality, it is usually the same small handful of topics being repeated over and over. The "log off" topic is a good example of this.
Like someone else said, I am sure the devs take most of it with a grain of salt.
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Tharrn
Amarr 1st Praetorian Guard Vigilia Valeria
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Posted - 2007.01.26 10:21:00 -
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Whenever they feel bad they should just check out the SWG boards - afterwards they'll feel all warm and fuzzy about the community here again :P
Now recruiting!
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Hektor Ramirez
Outer Ring Tourist Information Center
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Posted - 2007.01.26 13:56:00 -
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Originally by: Benco97 Does anyone know how to make a plushie Fedo?
Make a Tackle Me Elmo.
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Dixon
Caldari Hells Donkeys
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Posted - 2007.01.26 13:59:00 -
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Group hug? __________________________________________________
Originally by: Cmdr Sy So here is the state of Amarr tech. Nos, plate, EANM and a tracking disruptor - pick two out of four and counter all setups.
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Bethany Brokatt
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.01.26 14:05:00 -
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Actually at times it must frustrate them
Dev1: Hey lads i've finished the Missile changes, take a look! Dev2: Wow good job !! Dev3: Circle jerk time baybe !!1 Dev1: I am l33t, took me eleventy two thousand hours Dev2: Maybe the forum crowd will shut up now.
Quote: As of tommorows patch the missile balancing and new system is live, you will all be amazed at our new changes !!
Rabble Rabble Rabble
E-warrior1: What the **** have you done morons !! E-warrior2: Omg I quit !111 E-warrior3: You stupid retards !!! E-warrior4: OMG whiners win again ! E-warrior2: Everyone quit with me !! E-warrior3: OMFG, 2 dmg on a NOOBSHIP ! E-warrior1: I just got killed by a frigate E-warrior2: I hope you die in real life! E-warrior5: FOAD CCP ! E-warrior1: OH MY GOD !!!111111111111111111111111111
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Jason Kildaro
Minmatar Red Dwarf Mining Corps
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Posted - 2007.01.26 14:25:00 -
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Originally by: hotgirl933 lets give love to CCP but .... the problem is they make lots of noise about u beaut features etc but if they dont work properly are over buggy and are rushed then ppl get upset
its all well and good to spruik a good game and mash the PR button every few months to grow subscriber numbers but and this is an important butt that just keeps going over their heads
If youre going to do something please make sure u do it properly - firstly u should take 2 weeks every 3 months and go over as many of the old low priority UI bugs etc and fix em - where are corp devisional wallets - where are concord and interbus agents that can be used without that other bug wheres the fix for the cloaked bug
why have scan probes been borekd again - why havent level 5 agents been fixed. why is NPC goods trading still stuck in a tight volume- price and time based reset band.
why are u still rushing new features when old promises, PR hype etc etc needs fixing stop trying to run instead walk and fix - a very big hint.
unless the sudden rush every 3 months of a new patch thats totally bugged and a massive increase in subscriber numbers is pushing CCP into blizzard $$$$ ch ching bottom of the barrel mass number mode in which case youre going the way of SWG very quickly
and then there are petitions
You can't even be bothered to spell out "you" or "are" yet you feel inclined to tell them about their code rushing?
Read the blogs. New content must come out or you will not have a playerbase to fix the old content for.
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Bawldeux IV
Green Lantern Corps
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Posted - 2007.01.26 14:46:00 -
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Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Benco97 All you people who actually made this game and keep it running and come up with new things for it.. do you ever feel a little sad when someone comes on here and tells everyone how much they dislike something about it? I mean.. yeah, you can take quite a lot and ignore it but does it sometimes get to you, any of you? I've been tihnking about this and other similar things recently and i'd just like to say thank you, thank you all for making this game and thank you all for putting up with us players. I hope you have as much fun as you give us.
...damn.. this wasn't supposed to be a touchy-feely thread.. I de-railed myself in the OP..
They'll only feel bad when people stop comming here to make negative comments. And rightly so. People moan because they care about something.
so true (gads, I've agreed with avon...)
those silent types, that "dont care"...they are the ones that quit a game without saying why...
historicly, this has been the case with consumers, 3 types, those that like a 'store' those that complain about something in the store, and those that just don't return without a word as too why...but they do tell others, and the effect is that the store doesn't get the market share it could have, if it knew what displeased the consumer.
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Infinity Ziona
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.26 14:47:00 -
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Seems EVE has a horde of casual subscribers who cant be kept loyal without constant content being added.
Thats my theory and afaik its not just CCP who have this problem because most of the MMO companies I have subscribed to have had this exact same problem (except Aces High for some reason, small company perhaps)
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Za Po
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.01.26 14:59:00 -
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Originally by: Infinity Ziona Seems EVE has a horde of casual subscribers who cant be kept loyal without constant content being added.
That, and another horde of hardcore subscribers who can't be kept loyal with constant content being added.
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Wrangler
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Posted - 2007.01.26 15:41:00 -
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Well, this would just be my thoughts on the issue, but the first thing is that there is a difference between being negative and constructive and just being negative. Being constructive is always good, explaining what is wrong, why it is wrong and suggesting how it could be fixed is always appreciated since we do need feedback. Simply bashing things, ranting, being negative might help you a bit to get it out and calm down, but I believe it also discourages us from posting, which in the end hurts you as players.
Just my 0.02 ISK
Wrangler Assistant Community Manager EVE Online
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Lasus
Olive Laboratories
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Posted - 2007.01.26 16:52:00 -
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You cannot please people.
That is one thing that I have learned in my life so far. I spent 15 years in IT support. NOTHING you do pleases people. If a program had an error the users were convinced they did nothing wrong. I was even accused of doing something to the system to make it slow down. Ignore the fact that it was trying to service over 300 users at a time. I had one guy call my boss and say I was an idiot because he could not use a Dec terminal on an HP system.
I finally gave up and went back to chemistry as my profession just to get away from having to deal with people.
If EVE gave you oral sex every time you used it people would still complain.
Pain n An unpleasant feeling or sensation usually caused by the good fortune of another |
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Wrangler
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Posted - 2007.01.26 17:01:00 -
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Originally by: Lasus If EVE gave you oral sex every time you used it people would still complain.
If we had a quote of the month award you'd win this month with that one.
Wrangler Assistant Community Manager EVE Online
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Irrilian
Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.01.26 17:02:00 -
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It may not be very fun at times to be the focus of ire and rants, to have people belittle and second guess you constantly, but its the fact that people are so engaged with the game and that they have some form of emotional investment in it and thus the desire and for some the need to express their opinions about it means that while the trip may be bumpy at times there is still a road ahead.
The day people stop complaining about things, whether justified complaints or whines, is the day to switch off the servers.
I just hope all CCP's staff have at least Thick-skin level 4 trained.
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Gone'Postal
Minmatar LuthorCorp Combat Division
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Posted - 2007.01.26 17:09:00 -
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Originally by: Wrangler
Originally by: Lasus If EVE gave you oral sex every time you used it people would still complain.
If we had a quote of the month award you'd win this month with that one.
With eve the way it is the oral would be from a fat, old, outdated lady who slows down or stops for no reason but when you ask it a question it takes 2 months to answer with a pre-recoreded message.
Yes i think i could complain.
Known Issues & Workarounds - The forum to fix the issues of Eve... Godhelp us if the Devs start trying to. |
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GM Xhagen
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Posted - 2007.01.26 17:53:00 -
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Originally by: Lasus You cannot please people.
I must correct you in this and add all in there, i.e. You cannot please all people. But the thing is that we are not trying to please all people, we are just trying to make a game within the frame we design. Then, with player input, the matter of where thing X falls in relations to thing Y is certainly up for discussion.
And don't hope for the oral thing yet, I've been asking for naked girls in the office for three years now, and still haven't gotten any Maybe I will have to supply them myself... ____________________________
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Gaia's Wrath
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Posted - 2007.01.26 18:07:00 -
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I love it when people complain or whine about it in a non constructive way. I then know they are weak pathetic individuals with no lives at all.
I then write down there names have my corp mates use there agents to find them for me and then go hunt them down with suicide alts. We have made quite a game out of it.
If the comments are constructive great lets debate and make Eve better. Otherwise I still believe in free speech and your right to give your 2 cent opinion. I just believe in my right to give you a refund on your dumbass whiny opinion with an added bonuses of a bullet to the head.
Please more pointless whines from little bit**es. I like having some to do when I come home to play EVE.
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Admai Sket
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Posted - 2007.01.26 18:24:00 -
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Originally by: Gone'Postal
Originally by: Wrangler
Originally by: Lasus If EVE gave you oral sex every time you used it people would still complain.
If we had a quote of the month award you'd win this month with that one.
With eve the way it is the oral would be from a fat, old, outdated lady who slows down or stops for no reason but when you ask it a question it takes 2 months to answer with a pre-recoreded message.
Yes i think i could complain.
Wrangler, I think ^^^THIS^^^ guy should win the quote competition :-)
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Tarminic
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Posted - 2007.01.26 18:40:00 -
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Originally by: Tharrn Whenever they feel bad they should just check out the SWG boards - afterwards they'll feel all warm and fuzzy about the community here again :P
Wow...I just did. Half the posts are complaining about things wrong with the game and the declining population, maturity level not too far above WoW, and absolutely NO response whatsoever from the devs, aside from a single, coldly-worded denial.
I really would like to take this time to thank all the developers who put their time and effort into this game, and the people who take the time to speak to their community and listen to their players, even when doing so makes their ears hurt.
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kieron
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Posted - 2007.01.26 19:07:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic even when doing so makes their ears hurt.
Not so much ears hurting, but eyes bleeding.
Seriously? After a while you complete training Thick Skin to level 5 and the rants don't bother as much as they used to. Coming to the realization that the EVE community cares about the game just as much as the Devs speeds the training time a bit.
But the people that bash the same topic over and over again, even after there have been blogs or forum posts concerning the topic, those are the ones that I just don't uderstand.
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kieron
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Posted - 2007.01.26 19:14:00 -
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Originally by: Gone'Postal With eve the way it is the oral would be from a fat, old, outdated lady who slows down or stops for no reason but when you ask it a question it takes 2 months to answer with a pre-recoreded message.
Yes i think i could complain.
You are more than welcome to apply for a position and show us how to fix everything.
kieron Community Manager, EVE Online |
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Kharakan
Amarr Morticus Impendium
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Posted - 2007.01.26 19:16:00 -
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Originally by: kieron
Originally by: Gone'Postal With eve the way it is the oral would be from a fat, old, outdated lady who slows down or stops for no reason but when you ask it a question it takes 2 months to answer with a pre-recoreded message.
Yes i think i could complain.
You are more than welcome to apply for a position and show us how to fix everything.
Owned to the face.
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