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Elwoood Blues
Black Omega Security Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.26 22:05:00 -
[181]
Well done, go go go 
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TheArchJudge
Gallente Delta team Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.01.26 22:08:00 -
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Edited by: TheArchJudge on 26/01/2007 22:10:37 Edited by: TheArchJudge on 26/01/2007 22:10:09 nvm
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Nore Khadafi
Minmatar Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys
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Posted - 2007.01.26 22:18:00 -
[183]
Is it possible that the support fleets were the deciding factor and not the lag? From what I hear LV didn't bring much of a support fleet while the goons had a good amount of support locking down dreads and taking out fighters and enemy support ships. Could tactics and coordination have won this fight and not omg hax sploits?
Was it really so unbearably laggy on only LV's side and not RA's so that RA could just pick off helpless capital ships as the deemed fit?
I'm pretty new to eve and especially fleet warfare so I don't quite understand node and server mechanics on this grand of a scale.
---- My opinions and statements are wholly my own and do not reflect the opinions of my corporation or alliance
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Darcuese
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.26 22:25:00 -
[184]
Originally by: Pastora
Originally by: Kaylana Syi There is no way LV got their ships back. If they get their ships back then the GMs need to be fired and Oveur needs to reimburse everyone in EVE for this year of gameing in 0.0.
Signed!
Both of you should lower your head a bit down.....move your nose to table...those few little white lines are there for you to chill out, shut up and fly....leave thinking, reasoning and preaching aside till next life me, myself and I ------> |

Bufnitza
Black Straw
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Posted - 2007.01.26 22:44:00 -
[185]
Originally by: Nore Khadafi Is it possible that the support fleets were the deciding factor and not the lag? From what I hear LV didn't bring much of a support fleet while the goons had a good amount of support locking down dreads and taking out fighters and enemy support ships. Could tactics and coordination have won this fight and not omg hax sploits?
Was it really so unbearably laggy on only LV's side and not RA's so that RA could just pick off helpless capital ships as the deemed fit?
I'm pretty new to eve and especially fleet warfare so I don't quite understand node and server mechanics on this grand of a scale.
---- My opinions and statements are wholly my own and do not reflect the opinions of my corporation or alliance
Here u have the prove of a good tactic and coordination , they all was invisible , is a good tactic ,now read the all the fcking post before u reply in here . THE PROVE
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Fey Sceptari
Pegasus Mining and Securities R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.01.26 22:58:00 -
[186]
FRAPS PLZ!!! 
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Nore Khadafi
Minmatar Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys
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Posted - 2007.01.26 23:04:00 -
[187]
Originally by: Bufnitza Here u have the prove of a good tactic and coordination , they all was invisible , is a good tactic ,now read the all the fcking post before u reply in here . THE PROVE
So one person running fraps couldn't load the grid, does this mean everyone in the entire fleet couldn't load? I don't quite understand how this really proves much of anything besides the fact that one guy has a valid reason to petition his loss (assuming he did blow up after the fraps ended). I did read all the posts in the thread before posting and I was unable to watch the video until I got home (just now). No need to resort to profanity and down-talking I just asked a simple question which you failed to answer.
As for my question it occurred to me that since the fight took place at a hostile POS LV couldn't very well bring much of a support fleet what with all the POS guns. So there's not much point in wondering if a bigger support fleet would have helped since it was neigh impossible to have one there.
As for what really was the cause of the massive one sidedness of this battle I'll leave that for the regular tinfoilhatters, I guess I should have stuck with my better judgment and continued refusing to post at all on EVE-O forums since they seem to pretty much be only full of trollers and *******s.
---- My opinions and statements are wholly my own and do not reflect the opinions of my corporation or alliance
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Fun Bunny
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Posted - 2007.01.26 23:14:00 -
[188]
Originally by: Fey Sceptari FRAPS PLZ!!! 
Saw this uploaded on evefiles, only short clip: http://eve-files.com/dl/84598
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Skrypt
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.01.26 23:36:00 -
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Originally by: NATMav Props to LV for bringing out a good fleet.
Props to RAGoons for meeting the challenge.
But, unless the node officially died, those dreads better stay dead.
The glory of EVE-O ignorance.
Dreads will and should be reimbursed by CPP. Even if not, the dreads have already been replaced if not just temporarily.
And LV is crying? Because we can sustain such a loss? It happens. It's certainly no end to wtfBBQing Goonies. :) ___________
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Graalum
Foundation R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.01.27 00:14:00 -
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from the sounds of this there will be no reimbursement.
BTW: I want to kill lv too. Geminate is boring.
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Lenaria
Caldari Draconis Navitas Aeterna
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Posted - 2007.01.27 00:35:00 -
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Originally by: Nore Khadafi
As for my question it occurred to me that since the fight took place at a hostile POS LV couldn't very well bring much of a support fleet what with all the POS guns. So there's not much point in wondering if a bigger support fleet would have helped since it was neigh impossible to have one there. e
Thats is LAME excuse. During siege of SP Reds&Goons was fighting under hostile POS guns many times, and never complained. For example during 1v siege RaGoons&Friends killed whole LV/V fleet what tryed to pop RA dreads attacking -V- deathstars. Ironicaly, LV/V also whined how the lag favors RaGoon side so dreads can shot POS in lag and ordinary BS couldnt do a squat to them due to lag. You can read this 2 month-old thread yourself. Funny, eh?
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Algey
ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.01.27 00:36:00 -
[192]
Originally by: Kaylana Syi We lost a carrier to ISS. System was lagged, our reinforcement to engage the carrier killing fleet lagged out over 3 minutes.
Petition response :
*snip* Please don't post post GM conversations. Read the Forum Rules -Eldo
That carrier didn't last 3 minutes. If you petitioned such a simple loss as a ship ganked by 90 people then so be it. Your fleet couldn't have killed enough to save that carrier even if it had taken 3 minutes.
It is a pity that people petition simple losses due to poor command, although I can understand when people petition losses through the game going mad.
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Pastora
Russian SOBR Red Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.27 00:40:00 -
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Originally by: Darcuese Both of you should lower your head a bit down.....move your nose to table...those few little white lines are there for you to chill out, shut up and fly....leave thinking, reasoning and preaching aside till next life
We can learn much from wise words, little from wise*****s, and less from wise guys.
Originally by: Darcuese for someone playing this long EVE, one would think you know how those POS turetts dont care about lag and lost time. So dont act like this is face to face fight in the middle of the no where without third party influance.....anoying little t.w.a.t.s
Believe me, I know what lag is, and what the consequencies are. FYI, the lag was much worse in I-NGIB.
And let me ask you: was the killing of the "afk" titan a greater achievement? _______________________________________________ If ifs and ands were pots and pans, I would grow mushrooms in my pants. |

Del369
Caldari Office linebackers Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.27 00:46:00 -
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Originally by: Drash Kammatarr
Originally by: Kaeten It amazes me that RA can pull of things like this, gj guys.
?? Well it doesn't amaze me. RA/Goon and all, or as i prefer to call them: "The NAPster Coalition" just do their regular blobage. Everyone knows by now how to produce lag. The more numbers you have, the more lag you can produce, and that's the strategy. The only thing that amazes me, is their ever-growing numbers because of people who are willing to throw all their ideals over board in hope of making an easy living and easy money within the NAPsters sovereignty territories. Well, I guess Eve becomes more and more real live: too much opportunists who all seek to have a piece of the cake.
"It's better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt" - Mark Twain 
Originally by: Wrangler That is an outright lie! We don't want to discriminate anyone! We want *both* anti-social *and* social players to grief each other!  
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Elianora
Sanitars of Dungeon
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Posted - 2007.01.27 00:53:00 -
[195]
Originally by: Lenaria
Originally by: Nore Khadafi
As for my question it occurred to me that since the fight took place at a hostile POS LV couldn't very well bring much of a support fleet what with all the POS guns. So there's not much point in wondering if a bigger support fleet would have helped since it was neigh impossible to have one there. e
Thats is LAME excuse. During siege of SP Reds&Goons was fighting under hostile POS guns many times, and never complained. For example during 1v siege RaGoons&Friends killed whole LV/V fleet what tryed to pop RA dreads attacking -V- deathstars. Ironicaly, LV/V also whined how the lag favors RaGoon side so dreads can shot POS in lag and ordinary BS couldnt do a squat to them due to lag. You can read this 2 month-old thread yourself. Funny, eh?
at least someone got it right. yes there was lag in DG. But it wasnt that kind of wtfihateccpandeve lag. it was normal lag that everyone experiences when fleet battles come into play. when our fleet jumped to dg, 50% got disconnected and waited for 10 mins at the login screen. also our dreads jumping had same problems. the problem was from point of view that first of all LV didnt have the support for the dreads. they had a large bubble on the gate with like 5 small support ships to stop jumping in fleet. and no support at the dreads at all. imagine - 16 dreads and no support but a couple of cruisers a command ship and 2 or 3 BS. The dreads were just there almost lonley. what do u expect? there can be no excuse as the lag couse both sides experienced it the same way.Do u think CCP all of a sudden made a lag exeption for RAgoons? That is kinda hilarious. It was a good fight, as good as it can be under the current server status. Both sides had problems and its not the first time. but like someone said before - if that is petitionable and gets reimbursed, then EvE really should close its doors. Couse there wont be any battles at all.
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Mistah FAB
Ghost Ride The Whip
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Posted - 2007.01.27 01:13:00 -
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Did you guys even look at what you were fitting on those dreads, or did the lag cause that too? --- When you get a new car, and you're feelin like star What you gonna do? GHOST RIDE IT |

Plutoinum
German Cyberdome Corp Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.01.27 01:24:00 -
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Edited by: Plutoinum on 27/01/2007 01:21:56
Originally by: Lenaria
Thats is LAME excuse. During siege of SP Reds&Goons was fighting under hostile POS guns many times, and never complained. For example during 1v siege RaGoons&Friends killed whole LV/V fleet what tryed to pop RA dreads attacking -V- deathstars. Ironicaly, LV/V also whined how the lag favors RaGoon side so dreads can shot POS in lag and ordinary BS couldnt do a squat to them due to lag. You can read this 2 month-old thread yourself. Funny, eh?
Don't think that lag was the excuse in 1v. We didn't have the right fleet to harm the dreads under these circumstances. 1v local was already at 270 or so without us. The fleet that we had gathered from around the whole area was anything else, but not a dread killer fleet. People took what they had or how they were picked up on the way by the LV fleet.
Nevertheless we tried to take out the dreads with the BS we had. Damage output was way to low, noone was fitted with neutralizers and stuff, so the effect was pathetic.
Then we got jumped by some support blob, we tried to get out, but chances were low under these circumstances and our fleet got detroyed.
I was there. I flew a crappy typhoon myself, no nos or neutralizers, because that was the last BS I had left in KZF, when we went to meet up with the others.
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Originally by: Patch86 Combat in EVE is non-consensual. Unlike most games, EVE, by design, forces you to be ready for violence everywhere-even hi-sec space.
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Christopher Scott
Caldari Vengeance of the Fallen Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.27 01:29:00 -
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Edited by: Christopher Scott on 27/01/2007 01:26:50 Did the Cry Alliance hurt Lottra Whineterra's feelings?
Let's all have a big hug. 
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Guido gezelle
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Posted - 2007.01.27 01:33:00 -
[199]
Nice one goonfleet
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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.01.27 01:42:00 -
[200]
Originally by: Skrypt
Originally by: NATMav Props to LV for bringing out a good fleet.
Props to RAGoons for meeting the challenge.
But, unless the node officially died, those dreads better stay dead.
The glory of EVE-O ignorance.
Dreads will and should be reimbursed by CPP. Even if not, the dreads have already been replaced if not just temporarily.
I'm ignorant because you think you deserve to have your ships replaced any more than anyone else that suffers due to lag. 
Originally by: Goberth Ludwig Damn what happens to all those people whose self esteem doesnt depend on eve then?
Oh right, I'm asking in the wrong place
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Divus
Hybrid Syndicate Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.27 01:47:00 -
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Edited by: Divus on 27/01/2007 01:44:06
Quote:
Dreads will and should be reimbursed by CPP...[ ]...
And LV is crying?
my answer is yes
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Omeega
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.01.27 01:50:00 -
[202]
Originally by: Skrypt
Originally by: NATMav Props to LV for bringing out a good fleet.
Props to RAGoons for meeting the challenge.
But, unless the node officially died, those dreads better stay dead.
The glory of EVE-O ignorance.
Dreads will and should be reimbursed by CPP. Even if not, the dreads have already been replaced if not just temporarily.
And LV is crying? Because we can sustain such a loss? It happens. It's certainly no end to wtfBBQing Goonies. :)
You got sh*t in your eyes. Let nebba or Ens do the forum talking.
You were not competent enough to be able to correctly focus one dread at a time (But managed to still kill 2 dreads? Friendly fire? GOON POS killed them? They self-destructed ASCN-way?)
We've seen shinra, made fights, 10vs10 lost 0 killed 10 without scramblers.
You're just not what you think you are - and RA is aware of that.
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Kaylana Syi
Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.01.27 02:40:00 -
[203]
Originally by: Algey
Originally by: Kaylana Syi We lost a carrier to ISS. System was lagged, our reinforcement to engage the carrier killing fleet lagged out over 3 minutes.
Petition response :
*snip* Please don't post post GM conversations. Read the Forum Rules -Eldo
That carrier didn't last 3 minutes. If you petitioned such a simple loss as a ship ganked by 90 people then so be it. Your fleet couldn't have killed enough to save that carrier even if it had taken 3 minutes.
It is a pity that people petition simple losses due to poor command, although I can understand when people petition losses through the game going mad.
You are mad... One of your Sigs contained inappropriate material for the eve-o forums, please email [email protected] for a explination. - hutch Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
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Robapin
Gallente Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.01.27 03:59:00 -
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Great work guys
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Momentum. Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.01.27 04:13:00 -
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Edited by: Flinx Evenstar on 27/01/2007 04:12:30
Originally by: Mursilis
I can smacktalk all I want to and there is nothing that you can do to stop me. 
I hear that smack talking is one of the recruiting requirements for CA, if the 2 rather silly members that left MOM to join you are anything to go by 
Edit..btw, what is that vid meant to prove..you have the overview minimised
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Skrypt
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.01.27 04:47:00 -
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Originally by: Omeega
Originally by: Skrypt
Originally by: NATMav Props to LV for bringing out a good fleet.
Props to RAGoons for meeting the challenge.
But, unless the node officially died, those dreads better stay dead.
The glory of EVE-O ignorance.
Dreads will and should be reimbursed by CPP. Even if not, the dreads have already been replaced if not just temporarily.
And LV is crying? Because we can sustain such a loss? It happens. It's certainly no end to wtfBBQing Goonies. :)
You got sh*t in your eyes. Let nebba or Ens do the forum talking.
You were not competent enough to be able to correctly focus one dread at a time (But managed to still kill 2 dreads? Friendly fire? GOON POS killed them? They self-destructed ASCN-way?)
We've seen shinra, made fights, 10vs10 lost 0 killed 10 without scramblers.
You're just not what you think you are - and RA is aware of that.
You're the cutest troll in all the EVE-O kingdom, have I ever told you that? ___________
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Daroh
Solar Dragons Red Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.27 09:04:00 -
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We got full fraps of that battle, the fraps started before our dreads jump in dg-. In that fraps we can see lags while loading dg system, a bit laggy turrets activation, some lock target lags etc. But it was playable for both sides since both sides were shooting each other. (The Movie - cooming soon, probably)
There are lags in all battles, lags is path of the game and its same for all involted.
P.S. RA dread support gang was ~50 man, 99% BS. Is it true that such types of gangs are for lag create?
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Yazoul Samaiel
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.27 09:32:00 -
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Originally by: Pastora
Believe me, I know what lag is, and what the consequencies are. FYI, the lag was much worse in I-NGIB.
And let me ask you: was the killing of the "afk" titan a greater achievement?
LoooL This is just hilarious .An Ex Stab wearing logger making fun of our kil ? Just for the technicality it wasnt an afk titan it was logged with aggro so get ur facts straight.
Before you start drivelling more dont even try to compare what we achieve with what you try to do , we steam rolled an entire alliance how ever you still make forum posts about killing a few dreads .
GL LV wipe the floor with them.
"Lord Samaiel, Rise "
BNC Vs CELES Video
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Omeega
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.01.27 10:05:00 -
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Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel
Before you start drivelling more dont even try to compare what we achieve with what you try to do , we steam rolled an entire alliance how ever you still make forum posts about killing a few dreads .
With all due respect Yaz, RA killed -V-, ERA, they survived against [.5.] etc, they have no lesssons to learn from bob.
But, even logged, i would have enjoyed having this titan kill, so does Pastora I guess.
But facts remain facts, they have the record of killed dreads in one shot.
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Yazoul Samaiel
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.27 10:13:00 -
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Originally by: Omeega
Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel
Before you start drivelling more dont even try to compare what we achieve with what you try to do , we steam rolled an entire alliance how ever you still make forum posts about killing a few dreads .
With all due respect Yaz, RA killed -V-, ERA, they survived against [.5.] etc, they have no lesssons to learn from bob.
But, even logged, i would have enjoyed having this titan kill, so does Pastora I guess.
But facts remain facts, they have the record of killed dreads in one shot.
Ok i got no argument there , and yes RA killed tons of dreads in one sitting and they know what they do.
However as u clearly said ,the titan was logged and it was a fair kill and i realy doubt that any one in EVE would just ignore not killing just so they can brag about not killing an afk or logged titan , plus it was the first ever in EVE .
"Lord Samaiel, Rise "
BNC Vs CELES Video
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