Originally by: Goberth Ludwig

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Damn what happens to all those people whose self esteem doesnt depend on eve then?

Oh right, I'm asking in the wrong place

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- Numbers alone do not win a battle
- No, but I bet they help.

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Originally by: fire 59

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Give more detail's dam you

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Originally by: Iva Soreass

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System had 260+ in local, heard on TS "4ndt local rising" then blam all froze , no mods work , nothing worked period. cant log in "canny do nothin cap'n!" .

The rest is self expalantary

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Originally by: Swirler

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All losses will be petitioned and reimbursed.

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Originally by: Goberth Ludwig

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Damn what happens to all those people whose self esteem doesnt depend on eve then?

Oh right, I'm asking in the wrong place

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Originally by: Mephla

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Originally by: Iva Soreass

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System had 260+ in local, heard on TS "4ndt local rising" then blam all froze , no mods work , nothing worked period. cant log in "canny do nothin cap'n!" .

The rest is self expalantary

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What are you going to say next? "We didn't want those dreads anyway?"

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Originally by: Mephla

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Originally by: Iva Soreass

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System had 260+ in local, heard on TS "4ndt local rising" then blam all froze , no mods work , nothing worked period. cant log in "canny do nothin cap'n!" .

The rest is self expalantary

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What are you going to say next? "We didn't want those dreads anyway?"

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Originally by: KIATolon

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And the mantle of losing the most dreads is no longer mine :)

At least we killed more, whilst having far less :D

GJ RA

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Originally by: KIATolon

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lol hatepeace ;)
bitter much :D

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Originally by: KIATolon

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lol hatepeace ;)
bitter much :D

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Originally by: HotBalls Johnson

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the lv dread fleet

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2007.01.26 14:08
After a careful review of your case, however, we are unable to verify your loss in our logs as being abnormal in anyway, because of this we are unfortunately unable to reimburse your ship.

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Originally by: fire 59

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with low lag, would make your heart beat like no other time in gaming experience.

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Originally by: KIATolon

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Yes this includes the time RA lost 11 dreads (although I think it was 9). This is the biggest ever capital loss in one battle.

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Originally by: HotBalls Johnson

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the lv dread fleet

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Originally by: KIATolon

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Yes this includes the time RA lost 11 dreads (although I think it was 9). This is the biggest ever capital loss in one battle.

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Originally by: Komolov

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Edited by: Komolov on 26/01/2007 14:37:40

Actually i do not know about ASCN capital ship losses during war with BoB. May be there were some great battles too.

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Originally by: Kaylana Syi

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We lost a carrier to ISS. System was lagged, our reinforcement to engage the carrier killing fleet lagged out over 3 minutes.

Petition response :

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2007.01.26 14:08
After a careful review of your case, however, we are unable to verify your loss in our logs as being abnormal in anyway, because of this we are unfortunately unable to reimburse your ship.

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If CCP reimburse your dreads they are bloody biased.

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Originally by: Idra Melony

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Ra once lost 11 dread, but they have done bette with ERA and now LV :)

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Originally by: Velios

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I hope we do get our dreads back, then you can feel all hard done to and un-loved by CCP.

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Originally by: Velios

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Originally by: Kaylana Syi

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We lost a carrier to ISS. System was lagged, our reinforcement to engage the carrier killing fleet lagged out over 3 minutes.

Petition response :

Quote:

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2007.01.26 14:08
After a careful review of your case, however, we are unable to verify your loss in our logs as being abnormal in anyway, because of this we are unfortunately unable to reimburse your ship.

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If CCP reimburse your dreads they are bloody biased.

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What, and you are telling me you are NOT biassed against LV either. Just be quiet and let petittions (if there are to be any) take their own course.

I hope we do get our dreads back, then you can feel all hard done to and un-loved by CCP.

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Originally by: Komolov

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Edited by: Komolov on 26/01/2007 14:46:22

Originally by: Velios

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I hope we do get our dreads back, then you can feel all hard done to and un-loved by CCP.

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I hope you don't. Both sides were subjected to heavy lags. RA dreads were unable to activate guns and carriers were unable to release drones. Some of them - during whole course of battle. You will see it on fraps if it will be released to public audience.

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Originally by: Kaylana Syi

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If CCP reimburse your dreads they are bloody biased.

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Originally by: Shin Ra

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If there was so much lag and nobody from LV could do anything, how did RA loose any dreads at all?

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Originally by: Shin Ra

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If there was so much lag and nobody from LV could do anything, how did RA loose any dreads at all?

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Originally by: Lenaria

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To tell the trurh, we should give goons a lot more respect - they was the main driving force in that LV defeat.

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Originally by: Kyguard

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I think RA provided the cap fleet and goons brought in the support fleet.

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Originally by: Kaeten

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It amazes me that RA can pull of things like this, gj guys.

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Originally by: Shin Ra

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If there was so much lag and nobody from LV could do anything, how did RA loose any dreads at all?

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Originally by: Drash Kammatarr

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Originally by: Kaeten

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It amazes me that RA can pull of things like this, gj guys.

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Well it doesn't amaze me. RA/Goon and all, or as i prefer to call them: "The NAPster Coalition" just do their regular blobage. Everyone knows by now how to produce lag.
The more numbers you have, the more lag you can produce, and that's the strategy.
The only thing that amazes me, is their ever-growing numbers because of people who are willing to throw all their ideals over board in hope of making an easy living and easy money within the NAPsters sovereignty territories. Well, I guess Eve becomes more and more real live: too much opportunists who all seek to have a piece of the cake.

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Originally by: dralid

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Does that include that time that RA lost 11 dreads?

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Originally by: Tuxford

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In this picture you might think that Gallente totally pwn. Well they're alright

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Originally by: Shin Ra

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If there was so much lag and nobody from LV could do anything, how did RA loose any dreads at all?

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Originally by: Komolov

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Edited by: Komolov on 26/01/2007 14:46:22

Originally by: Velios

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I hope we do get our dreads back, then you can feel all hard done to and un-loved by CCP.

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I hope you don't. Both sides were subjected to heavy lags. RA dreads were unable to activate guns and carriers were unable to release drones. Some of them - during whole course of battle. You will see it on fraps if it will be released to public audience.

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Originally by: Komolov

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I hope you don't.

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Originally by: Drash Kammatarr

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Well it doesn't amaze me. RA/Goon and all, or as i prefer to call them: "The NAPster Coalition"

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Originally by: Kaeten

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Edited by: Kaeten on 26/01/2007 15:20:15

Originally by: Drash Kammatarr

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Originally by: Kaeten

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It amazes me that RA can pull of things like this, gj guys.

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Well it doesn't amaze me. RA/Goon and all, or as i prefer to call them: "The NAPster Coalition" just do their regular blobage. Everyone knows by now how to produce lag.
The more numbers you have, the more lag you can produce, and that's the strategy.
The only thing that amazes me, is their ever-growing numbers because of people who are willing to throw all their ideals over board in hope of making an easy living and easy money within the NAPsters sovereignty territories. Well, I guess Eve becomes more and more real live: too much opportunists who all seek to have a piece of the cake.

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Your saying blobbage is a form of advantage, tell ASCN that when they lost to BoB...

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Originally by: Bufnitza

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Originally by: Komolov

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Edited by: Komolov on 26/01/2007 14:46:22

Originally by: Velios

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I hope we do get our dreads back, then you can feel all hard done to and un-loved by CCP.

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I hope you don't. Both sides were subjected to heavy lags. RA dreads were unable to activate guns and carriers were unable to release drones. Some of them - during whole course of battle. You will see it on fraps if it will be released to public audience.

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Lagg , hmmm , weird thing ,look at killmails and u will see the most damage in LV dreads was made by POS , is enough to create lag in a system while enemy fleet is shooting in u POS and they will be dead , "exploit " ?? nah RED alwais fight clear ....doh

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Originally by: Bufnitza

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Originally by: Komolov

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Edited by: Komolov on 26/01/2007 14:46:22

Originally by: Velios

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I hope we do get our dreads back, then you can feel all hard done to and un-loved by CCP.

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I hope you don't. Both sides were subjected to heavy lags. RA dreads were unable to activate guns and carriers were unable to release drones. Some of them - during whole course of battle. You will see it on fraps if it will be released to public audience.

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Lagg , hmmm , weird thing ,look at killmails and u will see the most damage in LV dreads was made by POS , is enough to create lag in a system while enemy fleet is shooting in u POS and they will be dead , "exploit " ?? nah RED alwais fight clear ....doh

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Originally by: Zanarkand

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LV attack POS out of reinforced.

RA jumps in cap fleet.

LV loses a lot of dreads.

The end.

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Originally by: Lunas Feelgood

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Originally by: Bufnitza

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Originally by: Komolov

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Edited by: Komolov on 26/01/2007 14:46:22

Originally by: Velios

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I hope we do get our dreads back, then you can feel all hard done to and un-loved by CCP.

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I hope you don't. Both sides were subjected to heavy lags. RA dreads were unable to activate guns and carriers were unable to release drones. Some of them - during whole course of battle. You will see it on fraps if it will be released to public audience.

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Lagg , hmmm , weird thing ,look at killmails and u will see the most damage in LV dreads was made by POS , is enough to create lag in a system while enemy fleet is shooting in u POS and they will be dead , "exploit " ?? nah RED alwais fight clear ....doh

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Lol aperently you clueless..

Ofc the POS will allways have highest dmg on the dreads simply becuase they are shooting the dreads since they warped in..

RA prop waited until they hit there second siege cycle or soemthing..

I must say very impressive

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Originally by: Bufnitza

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the REd plan

red1: omg omg , let's help goons , POS out of reinforce after DT
red2: call u brothers , cousins , grandmothers and everyone , we need all to log in and create lag
red1: but if we create lag they will petition losses and will get back dreads
red2: who cares?? till they get dreads back we get the system and also think about how we will look on forum big title : "RED KILLED 15 DREADS" :D
red1: u right , operation "Node crash " start in 5 seconds

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Originally by: Sinlare

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Originally by: Kaylana Syi

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If CCP reimburse your dreads they are bloody biased.

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Did you ever consider that situations might differ? Some of you are so annoyingly ignorant.

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Originally by: Adam C

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worst write up of an epic event ever!

someone with an ounce of credibility post what happend

gg

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Originally by: Bufnitza

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the REd plan

red1: omg omg , let's help goons , POS out of reinforce after DT
red2: call u brothers , cousins , grandmothers and everyone , we need all to log in and create lag
red1: but if we create lag they will petition losses and will get back dreads
red2: who cares?? till they get dreads back we get the system and also think about how we will look on forum big title : "RED KILLED 15 DREADS" :D
red1: u right , operation "Node crash " start in 5 seconds

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Originally by: Omeega

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Originally by: Bufnitza

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Originally by: Komolov

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Edited by: Komolov on 26/01/2007 14:46:22

Originally by: Velios

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I hope we do get our dreads back, then you can feel all hard done to and un-loved by CCP.

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I hope you don't. Both sides were subjected to heavy lags. RA dreads were unable to activate guns and carriers were unable to release drones. Some of them - during whole course of battle. You will see it on fraps if it will be released to public audience.

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Lagg , hmmm , weird thing ,look at killmails and u will see the most damage in LV dreads was made by POS , is enough to create lag in a system while enemy fleet is shooting in u POS and they will be dead , "exploit " ?? nah RED alwais fight clear ....doh

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next time convo kom and ask'em not to defend their POS with equal forces.

you aren't able to bring a proper fight, that's what always happens.

then you blame lag... you won't always be able to rely on that.

while i was in RA some [5] said we exploited.

videos were released then, all of a sudden, we didn't exploit anymore but you died to lag.

sense? nope, just a normal tissue run.

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Originally by: Bufnitza

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the REd plan

red1: omg omg , let's help goons , POS out of reinforce after DT
red2: call u brothers , cousins , grandmothers and everyone , we need all to log in and create lag
red1: but if we create lag they will petition losses and will get back dreads
red2: who cares?? till they get dreads back we get the system and also think about how we will look on forum big title : "RED KILLED 15 DREADS" :D
red1: u right , operation "Node crash " start in 5 seconds

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Originally by: Drash Kammatarr

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Originally by: Kaeten

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It amazes me that RA can pull of things like this, gj guys.

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Well it doesn't amaze me. RA/Goon and all, or as i prefer to call them: "The NAPster Coalition" just do their regular blobage. Everyone knows by now how to produce lag.
The more numbers you have, the more lag you can produce, and that's the strategy.
The only thing that amazes me, is their ever-growing numbers because of people who are willing to throw all their ideals over board in hope of making an easy living and easy money within the NAPsters sovereignty territories. Well, I guess Eve becomes more and more real live: too much opportunists who all seek to have a piece of the cake.

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Originally by: Lowa

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FRAPS or STFU!

And does anyone care to mention what numbers we are talking about?
Not total in Local, total cap-ships on each side pls.


Cheers,
Lowa

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Originally by: Adamantium Beams

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Good job, kill them all

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Originally by: TheArchJudge

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Good Fight RA
Here is abit of the battle from what i manage to see ... or didn't see: Link

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Originally by: miss sixtty

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For all who cares - during LV dread massacre local was between 200 and 240. Hardly a "blob".

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Originally by: Perpello

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Originally by: Komolov

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I hope you don't.

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When your gang in 4NDT jumped in, node went to hell. So if we get our dreads back it's your fault for jumping in and killing node.

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System had 260+ in local, heard on TS "4ndt local rising" then blam all froze , no mods work , nothing worked period. cant log in "canny do nothin cap'n!" .

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Originally by: Cupdeez

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I'm sorry but I think you are crying? LV said CA cries but looks like LV is the one now.

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Originally by: Cupdeez

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Originally by: Perpello

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Originally by: Komolov

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I hope you don't.

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When your gang in 4NDT jumped in, node went to hell. So if we get our dreads back it's your fault for jumping in and killing node.

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System had 260+ in local, heard on TS "4ndt local rising" then blam all froze , no mods work , nothing worked period. cant log in "canny do nothin cap'n!" .

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I'm sorry but I think you are crying? LV said CA cries but looks like LV is the one now.

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Originally by: Fi T'Zeh

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ASCN Never actually managed to form a decent sized blob. They had blob potential, but never fulfilled it.

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Originally by: Cupdeez

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I see a few LV saying good fight.

I see a few others saying LAG I'm getting my ship back.

But I still see LV crying

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Originally by: Perpello

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Originally by: Cupdeez

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I see a few LV saying good fight.

I see a few others saying LAG I'm getting my ship back.

But I still see LV crying

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Those are left-over tears from laughing at your alliance. Perhaps node felt like crying and begging for some mercy. No tears from LV about the fight. We find it dubious you were involved in planning this attack "your plan", you were told about it that's more likely.

GF RA.

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Originally by: Xeriuz

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if thats true then CCP needs to put REV 2 on hold and do somehting about the lag first imo

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Originally by: Krall Amarr

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all ship lose inside DG, is under reimbursement, than this post, this reply, this propaganda are all' USELESS.

no one lose anything ,except 1 hour of game :)

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Originally by: Krall Amarr

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this topic have no sense lol

is all reimbursed,

than ? stfu all

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Originally by: Cupdeez

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well I never get my stuff back fom PVP lag not sure why you would get anything back from it.

Unless you are friendly with some GMs but that would not be very fair would it?

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Originally by: Lotka Volterra:

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@CCP: do something about lag or blobing..

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Originally by: Krall Amarr

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is all reimbursed

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Originally by: fugazii

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lv are just bunch of whiney girls, "boohoo not a single of us could do anything the entire battle yet somehow we killed 2 of thier dreads boohoo". your story doesnt add up, if you all crashed or couldnt see anything, how did you manage to kill 2 dreads, dreads arent frigs,....they take a quite a bit of dmg to kill, i.e. a decent amount of you werent frozen or crashed.

they should also wait,...like the rest of us in line for reimbursement also, getting thier **** back in 1 day, i have a petition month old that hasnt been answered yet.

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Originally by: Divus

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Originally by: Krall Amarr

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is all reimbursed

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hope you're kidding boy

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Originally by: MalaMo

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Originally by: Divus

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Originally by: Krall Amarr

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is all reimbursed

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hope you're kidding boy

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Reading this means .. LV won ... RA lost 2 dreads and LV got theirs back

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Originally by: MalaMo

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Originally by: Divus

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Originally by: Krall Amarr

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is all reimbursed

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hope you're kidding boy

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Reading this means .. LV won ... RA lost 2 dreads and LV got theirs back

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Originally by: Iva Soreass

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Originally by: Cupdeez

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I'm sorry but I think you are crying? LV said CA cries but looks like LV is the one now.

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Na not crying son, just tellin the facts of what happend my end.

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Originally by: Kaylana Syi

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There is no way LV got their ships back. If they get their ships back then the GMs need to be fired and Oveur needs to reimburse everyone in EVE for this year of gameing in 0.0.

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Originally by: Bazman

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He means they have been replaced by backup dreads, getting reimbursement petitions answered in the same day would be a f*cking miracle. Think before you post people. jeez

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Originally by: Mursilis

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Originally by: Iva Soreass

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Originally by: Cupdeez

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I'm sorry but I think you are crying? LV said CA cries but looks like LV is the one now.

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Na not crying son, just tellin the facts of what happend my end.

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Sounds like your "end" just got ripped up after being porked. Did they at least give you a kiss afterwards?

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Originally by: HotBalls Johnson

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Edited by: HotBalls Johnson on 26/01/2007 19:32:47

Originally by: Bazman

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He means they have been replaced by backup dreads, getting reimbursement petitions answered in the same day would be a f*cking miracle. Think before you post people. jeez

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all ship lose inside DG, is under reimbursement, than this post, this reply, this propaganda are all' USELESS.

no one lose anything ,except 1 hour of game :)

"REIMBURSEMENT"
Replacements do not mean reimbursement. Replacements would mean the billions in minerals those dreads cost is still gone, reimbursement does not. No one lost anything means those billions in minerals are not lost and it means that those dreads are being REIMBURSED not replaced. Why would he word it like that then, other than to come across as smug and secure in his illegitimate invulnerability?

And if I am genuinely wrong about this then I apologize in advance but I didn't ******* wake up at 6:30 AM on a day off so their dreads could be reimbursed.

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Originally by: HotBalls Johnson

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Edited by: HotBalls Johnson on 26/01/2007 19:32:47

Originally by: Bazman

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He means they have been replaced by backup dreads, getting reimbursement petitions answered in the same day would be a f*cking miracle. Think before you post people. jeez

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all ship lose inside DG, is under reimbursement, than this post, this reply, this propaganda are all' USELESS.

no one lose anything ,except 1 hour of game :)

"REIMBURSEMENT"
Replacements do not mean reimbursement. Replacements would mean the billions in minerals those dreads cost is still gone, reimbursement does not. No one lost anything means those billions in minerals are not lost and it means that those dreads are being REIMBURSED not replaced. Why would he word it like that then, other than to come across as smug and secure in his illegitimate invulnerability?

And if I am genuinely wrong about this then I apologize in advance but I didn't ******* wake up at 6:30 AM on a day off so their dreads could be reimbursed.

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Originally by: HotBalls Johnson

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Edited by: HotBalls Johnson on 26/01/2007 19:32:47

Originally by: Bazman

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He means they have been replaced by backup dreads, getting reimbursement petitions answered in the same day would be a f*cking miracle. Think before you post people. jeez

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all ship lose inside DG, is under reimbursement, than this post, this reply, this propaganda are all' USELESS.

no one lose anything ,except 1 hour of game :)

"REIMBURSEMENT"
Replacements do not mean reimbursement. ....

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Originally by: crice

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Originally by: HotBalls Johnson

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Edited by: HotBalls Johnson on 26/01/2007 19:32:47

Originally by: Bazman

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He means they have been replaced by backup dreads, getting reimbursement petitions answered in the same day would be a f*cking miracle. Think before you post people. jeez

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all ship lose inside DG, is under reimbursement, than this post, this reply, this propaganda are all' USELESS.

no one lose anything ,except 1 hour of game :)

"REIMBURSEMENT"
Replacements do not mean reimbursement. Replacements would mean the billions in minerals those dreads cost is still gone, reimbursement does not. No one lost anything means those billions in minerals are not lost and it means that those dreads are being REIMBURSED not replaced. Why would he word it like that then, other than to come across as smug and secure in his illegitimate invulnerability?

And if I am genuinely wrong about this then I apologize in advance but I didn't ******* wake up at 6:30 AM on a day off so their dreads could be reimbursed.

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Sounds like you have everything figured out.

Anything else we can help with Mr. Hotballs from EvE Corp 32807? Please feel free to ask, we want to make sure all the Goon posting alts get they're concerns addressed as quickly as possible.

Have a nice day.

crice

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Originally by: Kaylana Syi

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There is no way LV got their ships back. If they get their ships back then the GMs need to be fired and Oveur needs to reimburse everyone in EVE for this year of gameing in 0.0.

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Originally by: LordInvisible

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Originally by: Mursilis

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Originally by: Iva Soreass

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Originally by: Cupdeez

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I'm sorry but I think you are crying? LV said CA cries but looks like LV is the one now.

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Na not crying son, just tellin the facts of what happend my end.

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Sounds like your "end" just got ripped up after being porked. Did they at least give you a kiss afterwards?

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i always wonder, why are CA members so loud in this topic when i only c two members in killmails and lossmails..

and u are not among them..

dont smack if u dont have guts to show up..

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Originally by: Goberth Ludwig

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Damn what happens to all those people whose self esteem doesnt depend on eve then?

Oh right, I'm asking in the wrong place

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Originally by: Bazman

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He means they have been replaced by backup dreads, getting reimbursement petitions answered in the same day would be a f*cking miracle. Think before you post people. jeez

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Originally by: Omeega

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WTS IMPASS REGION

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Originally by: Kyguard

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Originally by: Bazman

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He means they have been replaced by backup dreads, getting reimbursement petitions answered in the same day would be a f*cking miracle. Think before you post people. jeez

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I don't think anyone would doubt that you could replace the dreads in a couple of seconds, we'd be worried if you couldn't

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Originally by: Pastora

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Originally by: Kaylana Syi

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There is no way LV got their ships back. If they get their ships back then the GMs need to be fired and Oveur needs to reimburse everyone in EVE for this year of gameing in 0.0.

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Signed!

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Originally by: Nore Khadafi

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Is it possible that the support fleets were the deciding factor and not the lag? From what I hear LV didn't bring much of a support fleet while the goons had a good amount of support locking down dreads and taking out fighters and enemy support ships. Could tactics and coordination have won this fight and not omg hax sploits?

Was it really so unbearably laggy on only LV's side and not RA's so that RA could just pick off helpless capital ships as the deemed fit?

I'm pretty new to eve and especially fleet warfare so I don't quite understand node and server mechanics on this grand of a scale.



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My opinions and statements are wholly my own and do not reflect the opinions of my corporation or alliance

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Originally by: Bufnitza

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Here u have the prove of a good tactic and coordination , they all was invisible , is a good tactic ,now read the all the fcking post before u reply in here . THE PROVE

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Originally by: Fey Sceptari

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FRAPS PLZ!!!

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Originally by: NATMav

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Props to LV for bringing out a good fleet.

Props to RAGoons for meeting the challenge.

But, unless the node officially died, those dreads better stay dead.

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Originally by: Nore Khadafi

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As for my question it occurred to me that since the fight took place at a hostile POS LV couldn't very well bring much of a support fleet what with all the POS guns. So there's not much point in wondering if a bigger support fleet would have helped since it was neigh impossible to have one there.
e

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Originally by: Kaylana Syi

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We lost a carrier to ISS. System was lagged, our reinforcement to engage the carrier killing fleet lagged out over 3 minutes.

Petition response :

*snip* Please don't post post GM conversations. Read the Forum Rules -Eldo

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Originally by: Darcuese

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Both of you should lower your head a bit down.....move your nose to table...those few little white lines are there for you to chill out, shut up and fly....leave thinking, reasoning and preaching aside till next life

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Originally by: Darcuese

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for someone playing this long EVE, one would think you know how those POS turetts dont care about lag and lost time. So dont act like this is face to face fight in the middle of the no where without third party influance.....anoying little t.w.a.t.s

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Originally by: Drash Kammatarr

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Originally by: Kaeten

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It amazes me that RA can pull of things like this, gj guys.

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Well it doesn't amaze me. RA/Goon and all, or as i prefer to call them: "The NAPster Coalition" just do their regular blobage. Everyone knows by now how to produce lag.
The more numbers you have, the more lag you can produce, and that's the strategy.
The only thing that amazes me, is their ever-growing numbers because of people who are willing to throw all their ideals over board in hope of making an easy living and easy money within the NAPsters sovereignty territories. Well, I guess Eve becomes more and more real live: too much opportunists who all seek to have a piece of the cake.

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Originally by: Wrangler

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That is an outright lie! We don't want to discriminate anyone! We want *both* anti-social *and* social players to grief each other!

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Originally by: Lenaria

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Originally by: Nore Khadafi

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As for my question it occurred to me that since the fight took place at a hostile POS LV couldn't very well bring much of a support fleet what with all the POS guns. So there's not much point in wondering if a bigger support fleet would have helped since it was neigh impossible to have one there.
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Thats is LAME excuse. During siege of SP Reds&Goons was fighting under hostile POS guns many times, and never complained. For example during 1v siege RaGoons&Friends killed whole LV/V fleet what tryed to pop RA dreads attacking -V- deathstars. Ironicaly, LV/V also whined how the lag favors RaGoon side so dreads can shot POS in lag and ordinary BS couldnt do a squat to them due to lag. You can read this 2 month-old thread yourself. Funny, eh?

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Originally by: Lenaria

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Thats is LAME excuse. During siege of SP Reds&Goons was fighting under hostile POS guns many times, and never complained. For example during 1v siege RaGoons&Friends killed whole LV/V fleet what tryed to pop RA dreads attacking -V- deathstars. Ironicaly, LV/V also whined how the lag favors RaGoon side so dreads can shot POS in lag and ordinary BS couldnt do a squat to them due to lag. You can read this 2 month-old thread yourself. Funny, eh?

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Originally by: Patch86

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Combat in EVE is non-consensual. Unlike most games, EVE, by design, forces you to be ready for violence everywhere-even hi-sec space.

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Originally by: Skrypt

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Originally by: NATMav

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Props to LV for bringing out a good fleet.

Props to RAGoons for meeting the challenge.

But, unless the node officially died, those dreads better stay dead.

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The glory of EVE-O ignorance.

Dreads will and should be reimbursed by CPP. Even if not, the dreads have already been replaced if not just temporarily.

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Originally by: Goberth Ludwig

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Damn what happens to all those people whose self esteem doesnt depend on eve then?

Oh right, I'm asking in the wrong place

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Dreads will and should be reimbursed by CPP...[ ]...

And LV is crying?

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Originally by: Skrypt

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Originally by: NATMav

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Props to LV for bringing out a good fleet.

Props to RAGoons for meeting the challenge.

But, unless the node officially died, those dreads better stay dead.

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The glory of EVE-O ignorance.

Dreads will and should be reimbursed by CPP. Even if not, the dreads have already been replaced if not just temporarily.

And LV is crying? Because we can sustain such a loss? It happens. It's certainly no end to wtfBBQing Goonies. :)

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Originally by: Algey

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Originally by: Kaylana Syi

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We lost a carrier to ISS. System was lagged, our reinforcement to engage the carrier killing fleet lagged out over 3 minutes.

Petition response :

*snip* Please don't post post GM conversations. Read the Forum Rules -Eldo

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That carrier didn't last 3 minutes. If you petitioned such a simple loss as a ship ganked by 90 people then so be it. Your fleet couldn't have killed enough to save that carrier even if it had taken 3 minutes.

It is a pity that people petition simple losses due to poor command, although I can understand when people petition losses through the game going mad.

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Originally by: Mursilis

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I can smacktalk all I want to and there is nothing that you can do to stop me.

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Originally by: Omeega

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Originally by: Skrypt

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Originally by: NATMav

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Props to LV for bringing out a good fleet.

Props to RAGoons for meeting the challenge.

But, unless the node officially died, those dreads better stay dead.

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The glory of EVE-O ignorance.

Dreads will and should be reimbursed by CPP. Even if not, the dreads have already been replaced if not just temporarily.

And LV is crying? Because we can sustain such a loss? It happens. It's certainly no end to wtfBBQing Goonies. :)

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You got sh*t in your eyes. Let nebba or Ens do the forum talking.

You were not competent enough to be able to correctly focus one dread at a time (But managed to still kill 2 dreads? Friendly fire? GOON POS killed them? They self-destructed ASCN-way?)

We've seen shinra, made fights, 10vs10 lost 0 killed 10 without scramblers.

You're just not what you think you are - and RA is aware of that.

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Originally by: Pastora

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Believe me, I know what lag is, and what the consequencies are. FYI, the lag was much worse in I-NGIB.

And let me ask you: was the killing of the "afk" titan a greater achievement?

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Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel

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Before you start drivelling more dont even try to compare what we achieve with what you try to do , we steam rolled an entire alliance how ever you still make forum posts about killing a few dreads .

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Originally by: Omeega

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Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel

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Before you start drivelling more dont even try to compare what we achieve with what you try to do , we steam rolled an entire alliance how ever you still make forum posts about killing a few dreads .

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With all due respect Yaz, RA killed -V-, ERA, they survived against [.5.] etc, they have no lesssons to learn from bob.

But, even logged, i would have enjoyed having this titan kill, so does Pastora I guess.

But facts remain facts, they have the record of killed dreads in one shot.

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Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel

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However as u clearly said ,the titan was logged and it was a fair kill and i realy doubt that any one in EVE would just ignore not killing just so they can brag about not killing an afk or logged titan , plus it was the first ever in EVE .

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Originally by: Omeega

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We've seen shinra, made fights, 10vs10 lost 0 killed 10 without scramblers.

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Originally by: Bufnitza

Here u have the prove of a good tactic and coordination , they all was invisible , is a good tactic ,now read the all the fcking post before u reply in here . [url="http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0701/lagftl.wmv"

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THE PROVE[/url]

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Originally by: Zoron

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Originally by: Lotka Volterra:

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@CCP: do something about lag or blobing..

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priceless!!!

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Originally by: panman

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GJ Red Alliance, and LV GL with those petitions? You should just take the loss like men and not bother

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