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Xenuria
Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet Hearts And Minds Alliance
33
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Posted - 2011.12.15 00:36:00 -
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If I use the FXAA Post Process Injector to enhance the graphical appeal of eve will I get banned? Is this a violation of the EULA? |

Xercodo
Xovoni Directorate Not Usually Killing Everyone.
219
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Posted - 2011.12.15 00:39:00 -
[2] - Quote
Dude, your face... The Drake is a Lie |

DarkAegix
Acetech Systems
572
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Posted - 2011.12.15 00:41:00 -
[3] - Quote
Welcome... TO THE GREY ZONE. |

Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
192
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Posted - 2011.12.15 00:43:00 -
[4] - Quote
Xercodo wrote:Dude, your face... dude... All GëíGêçGëí Ships | GëíGêçGëí - sñÜpüÅpü«sÑçsªÖpü¬péópéñpâåpâá | <-- Links to ShowInfo in-game
FX7 - No Tax... No Rules... No Problem |

Oregin
Red Sky Morning BricK sQuAD.
0
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Posted - 2011.12.15 00:43:00 -
[5] - Quote
Xercodo wrote:Dude, your face...
Yeah, no amount of FXAA will improve that... |

Xenuria
Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet Hearts And Minds Alliance
33
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Posted - 2011.12.15 01:04:00 -
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Oregin wrote:Xercodo wrote:Dude, your face... Yeah, no amount of FXAA will improve that... it's a lighting issue with the latest expansion... makes hair look white and glossy.
Can somebody answer my question? |

Taedrin
Kushan Industrial
171
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Posted - 2011.12.15 01:20:00 -
[7] - Quote
It depends. If it involves function hooks, then yes it violates the EULA as it is modifying EVE's executable code in memory. If it works at the driver level, then no it does not violate (EVE's) EULA, similar to how using nHancer to force FSAA + HDR was not a violation.
Basically, so long as the application does not look at or modify EVE's memory space then you are cool (and so long as it does not automate gameplay). |

Xenuria
Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet Hearts And Minds Alliance
33
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Posted - 2011.12.15 01:22:00 -
[8] - Quote
I would like CCP confirmation... |

mkint
456
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Posted - 2011.12.15 01:26:00 -
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Xenuria wrote:I would like CCP confirmation... CCP response here is a matter of luck. Petition is the appropriate channels for your question. |

Taedrin
Kushan Industrial
171
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Posted - 2011.12.15 01:27:00 -
[10] - Quote
Just curious, could you link to the application in question? Googling for "FXAA Post Process Injector EVE Online" leads straight back to this thread. |

Graic Gabtar
The Lemon Party
18
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Posted - 2011.12.15 01:27:00 -
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Xenuria wrote:I would like CCP confirmation... Methinks raise a petition then. |

Xenuria
Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet Hearts And Minds Alliance
33
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Posted - 2011.12.15 01:29:00 -
[12] - Quote
Taedrin wrote:Just curious, could you link to the application in question? Googling for "FXAA Post Process Injector EVE Online" leads straight back to this thread.
I am talking about the one they used for Skyrim... I dont want to link to it in case its a violation to use it. |

Alexa Coates
LNTC
22
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Posted - 2011.12.15 02:06:00 -
[13] - Quote
It depends. Is it giving you an unfair advantage over other players? If no, then it should be fine. Although i don't see why you'd need a post process injector as all the graphical option in eve are enough to make it gorgeous. Love my Gallente Federation Navy ships! |

Jita Alt666
653
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Posted - 2011.12.15 02:12:00 -
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Its not about maing it gorgeous - its about removing the bits you don't care about. |

Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
96
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Posted - 2011.12.15 02:13:00 -
[15] - Quote
Xenuria wrote:Taedrin wrote:Just curious, could you link to the application in question? Googling for "FXAA Post Process Injector EVE Online" leads straight back to this thread. I am talking about the one they used for Skyrim... I dont want to link to it in case its a violation to use it. 1) if it is a legitimate program (ie not a bot) then CCP is not going to go ape for you posting a link to it.
2) Go back to C&P. |

Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
604
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Posted - 2011.12.15 02:28:00 -
[16] - Quote
Basically you are not allowed to use any software to play the game for you or modify any of the clients game's files and or infomration it receives from the server or gives to the server.
So graphical enhancers fall in none of those catagories yet.
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
526
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Posted - 2011.12.15 02:35:00 -
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Xenuria wrote:Oregin wrote:Xercodo wrote:Dude, your face... Yeah, no amount of FXAA will improve that... it's a lighting issue with the latest expansion... makes hair look white and glossy. Can somebody answer my question?
Oh yeah, it's your hair that's disturbing.....
Yep.. yep.. yep...
That's gotta be it....
 Revenge should not stop at the ship!
It's not so much a mission statement,-áit's more like a family motto. |

SmashTech
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
55
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Posted - 2011.12.15 07:42:00 -
[18] - Quote
LOOK AT ME I NEED ATTENTION SO I USED ALL OF THE OPTIONS IN THE CHARACTER CREATOR ON MY FACE AND THEN POSTED THIS THREAD |

Florestan Bronstein
United Highsec Front The 99 Percent
204
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Posted - 2011.12.15 09:08:00 -
[19] - Quote
Is using a Teamspeak Overlay bannable?
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Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
135
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Posted - 2011.12.15 09:15:00 -
[20] - Quote
mkint wrote:Xenuria wrote:I would like CCP confirmation... CCP response here is a matter of luck. Petition is the appropriate channels for your question.
Not empty quoting.
My rough guess is NO its not... Since it doesnt provide any kind of advantage over anyone else... |

Xenuria
Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet Hearts And Minds Alliance
33
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Posted - 2011.12.15 13:10:00 -
[21] - Quote
Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:mkint wrote:Xenuria wrote:I would like CCP confirmation... CCP response here is a matter of luck. Petition is the appropriate channels for your question. Not empty quoting. My rough guess is NO its not... Since it doesnt provide any kind of advantage over anyone else...
The advantage could be a crisper image.
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Lord Zim
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
297
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Posted - 2011.12.15 13:11:00 -
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Dude. Your face... |

Xenuria
Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet Hearts And Minds Alliance
33
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Posted - 2011.12.15 13:23:00 -
[23] - Quote
Lord Zim wrote:Dude. Your face...
?
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Destru Kaneda
CTRL-Q
11
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Posted - 2011.12.15 13:43:00 -
[24] - Quote
No. Music for robots, hackers, pirates, geeks and miscellaneous nerds. |

Shariff Da'Laws
The Expatriate League
2
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Posted - 2011.12.15 14:14:00 -
[25] - Quote
Xenuria wrote:Lord Zim wrote:Dude. Your face... ?
Dude your face.
Here is why many people are commenting on your face:
The straight on angle and the tattoo all lend themselves to making the monocle resemble your eye bulging out of your skull and bring focus to it. You seemed confused as to why they kept saying it.
As far as your actual question goes, it comes down to what/where the program is doing the work. Like others have said if it modifying how the driver for your graphics card handle it then you are fine. Anything else is a gray area.
Petitioning it is probably good idea, make sure to provide them with as much information about what you are using to do it as well. |

Fix My Lasers
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
34
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Posted - 2011.12.15 14:17:00 -
[26] - Quote
Xenuria wrote:I would like CCP confirmation...
They can't. They are stunned by your face. Bring back Blaze and Lux crystals! http://eve.battleclinic.com/item/i12812-Blaze-L-details.html http://eve.battleclinic.com/item/i12832-Lux-L-details.html |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
528
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Posted - 2011.12.15 15:08:00 -
[27] - Quote
Fix My Lasers wrote:Xenuria wrote:I would like CCP confirmation... They can't. They are stunned by your face.
It looks like something you'd need to hire Harrison Ford to hunt down and "retire". Revenge should not stop at the ship!
It's not so much a mission statement,-áit's more like a family motto. |

Indeterminacy
THORN Syndicate BricK sQuAD.
25
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Posted - 2011.12.15 15:48:00 -
[28] - Quote
Your face dude...wolololol |

Doc Severide
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2011.12.15 15:52:00 -
[29] - Quote
So can I use any program that makes everyone nekked, except me???
CCP please confirm... |

De'Veldrin
Element 27 Intrepid Crossing
121
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Posted - 2011.12.15 16:08:00 -
[30] - Quote
Skipping over your face and all references to it, if you want a straight up, official CCP answer, you need to file a petition on the subject.
Unsub or don't.-á I don't care what your reasons are, and neither does anyone else.-á Just click the button and go away - or don't. |

Crosi Wesdo
Spiritus Draconis
63
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Posted - 2011.12.15 16:33:00 -
[31] - Quote
Xenuria wrote:Oregin wrote:Xercodo wrote:Dude, your face... Yeah, no amount of FXAA will improve that... it's a lighting issue with the latest expansion... makes hair look white and glossy. Can somebody answer my question?
No amount of lighting will put that monocle on straight! |
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CCP Nullarbor
C C P C C P Alliance
78

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Posted - 2011.12.15 17:01:00 -
[32] - Quote
Xenuria wrote:If I use the FXAA Post Process Injector to enhance the graphical appeal of eve will I get banned? Is this a violation of the EULA?
An Official Response From CCP
Dude... your face?
(If this answer is not satisfactory you probably need to file a petition) CCP Nullarbor | Exotic Dancer |
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Garra 82
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2011.12.15 17:06:00 -
[33] - Quote
^^^ LOL |

Krios Ahzek
Juvenis Iratus
297
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Posted - 2011.12.15 17:08:00 -
[34] - Quote
CCP Nullarbor wrote:Xenuria wrote:If I use the FXAA Post Process Injector to enhance the graphical appeal of eve will I get banned? Is this a violation of the EULA? An Official Response From CCPDude... your face? (If this answer is not satisfactory you probably need to file a petition)
ZING Do not take me for some conjurer of cheap tricks. |

Singeabooty Raj
Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet Hearts And Minds Alliance
151
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Posted - 2011.12.15 17:31:00 -
[35] - Quote
CCP Nullarbor wrote:Xenuria wrote:If I use the FXAA Post Process Injector to enhance the graphical appeal of eve will I get banned? Is this a violation of the EULA? An Official Response From CCPDude... your face? (If this answer is not satisfactory you probably need to file a petition)

Black Man with Goggles |

Seleia O'Sinnor
Arklight Project Fade 2 Black
53
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Posted - 2011.12.15 17:36:00 -
[36] - Quote
Welcome to the Eve Community, where even the devs play in the major league of niveau limbo. Always expect reds, it's like PVP, they do it for the tears and mainly 'cause they can. Eve community: An angry mob of bright people hunting witches, more torches, more hay forks, growing and growing. |

Generals4
Caldari State
543
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Posted - 2011.12.15 17:37:00 -
[37] - Quote
Xenuria wrote:[quote=Oregin] it's a lighting issue with the latest expansion... makes hair look white and glossy.
If only your hair was the only problem... -Death is nothing, but to live defeated and inglorious is to die daily. |

Captain Nathaniel Butler
The White Company
155
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Posted - 2011.12.15 17:45:00 -
[38] - Quote
CCP Nullarbor wrote:Xenuria wrote:If I use the FXAA Post Process Injector to enhance the graphical appeal of eve will I get banned? Is this a violation of the EULA? An Official Response From CCPDude... your face? (If this answer is not satisfactory you probably need to file a petition)
Wins thread IMO. Lady Spank for C&P moderator. |

Fix My Lasers
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
34
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Posted - 2011.12.15 17:52:00 -
[39] - Quote
Fix My Lasers wrote:Xenuria wrote:I would like CCP confirmation... They can't. They are stunned by your face.
CCP Nullarbor wrote:Xenuria wrote:If I use the FXAA Post Process Injector to enhance the graphical appeal of eve will I get banned? Is this a violation of the EULA? An Official Response From CCPDude... your face? (If this answer is not satisfactory you probably need to file a petition)
I told so! :D They are just stunned like I am! Bring back Blaze and Lux crystals! http://eve.battleclinic.com/item/i12812-Blaze-L-details.html http://eve.battleclinic.com/item/i12832-Lux-L-details.html |

Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
611
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Posted - 2011.12.15 17:52:00 -
[40] - Quote
CCP Nullarbor wrote:Xenuria wrote:If I use the FXAA Post Process Injector to enhance the graphical appeal of eve will I get banned? Is this a violation of the EULA? An Official Response From CCPDude... your face? (If this answer is not satisfactory you probably need to file a petition)
Wow...
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Xenuria
Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet Hearts And Minds Alliance
33
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Posted - 2011.12.15 17:55:00 -
[41] - Quote
CCP Nullarbor wrote:Xenuria wrote:If I use the FXAA Post Process Injector to enhance the graphical appeal of eve will I get banned? Is this a violation of the EULA? An Official Response From CCPDude... your face? (If this answer is not satisfactory you probably need to file a petition)
Not my fault the monocle looks stupid on my face... I also did file a petition. |

Oberine Noriepa
252
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Posted - 2011.12.15 18:02:00 -
[42] - Quote
When I filed a petition for this, I was told that using the injector with the client would result in an immediate ban since it violates the EULA. |

Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
985
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Posted - 2011.12.15 18:03:00 -
[43] - Quote
Xenuria wrote:CCP Nullarbor wrote:Xenuria wrote:If I use the FXAA Post Process Injector to enhance the graphical appeal of eve will I get banned? Is this a violation of the EULA? An Official Response From CCPDude... your face? (If this answer is not satisfactory you probably need to file a petition) Not my fault the monocle looks stupid on my face... I also did file a petition.
It may not be your fault the monocle looks ridiculous but it is your fault you bought one and its certainly your fault you choose to display it on a remarkably unattractive avatar.
Also, lol at the dev response - there's the ccp I remember 
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom. Jericho Fraction is Recruiting! |

Sverige Pahis
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
465
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Posted - 2011.12.15 18:24:00 -
[44] - Quote
Hi Xenuria |

Xenuria
Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet Hearts And Minds Alliance
33
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Posted - 2011.12.15 18:27:00 -
[45] - Quote
Sverige Pahis wrote:Hi Xenuria Hello...
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Sverige Pahis
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
465
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Posted - 2011.12.15 18:33:00 -
[46] - Quote
Get a load of that CCP guy you just wanted to know if you could use FXAA Post Process Injector and he didn't answer can you believe that? |

Xenuria
Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet Hearts And Minds Alliance
35
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Posted - 2011.12.15 18:39:00 -
[47] - Quote
Sverige Pahis wrote:Get a load of that CCP guy you just wanted to know if you could use FXAA Post Process Injector and he didn't answer can you believe that?
She is just doing her job... Which is to troll the userbase as much as possible without losing profit. |

Fix My Lasers
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
36
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Posted - 2011.12.15 18:40:00 -
[48] - Quote
Xenuria wrote:CCP Nullarbor wrote:Xenuria wrote:If I use the FXAA Post Process Injector to enhance the graphical appeal of eve will I get banned? Is this a violation of the EULA? An Official Response From CCPDude... your face? (If this answer is not satisfactory you probably need to file a petition) Not my fault the monocle looks stupid on my face... I also did file a petition.
It's not the only monocle that makes your face "special" :D Bring back Blaze and Lux crystals! http://eve.battleclinic.com/item/i12812-Blaze-L-details.html http://eve.battleclinic.com/item/i12832-Lux-L-details.html |

Alara IonStorm
623
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Posted - 2011.12.15 18:52:00 -
[49] - Quote
File it on another character.
You already know what the response will be if you use Xenuria.
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arcca jeth
Dark Alliance Dark Empire Alliance
36
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Posted - 2011.12.15 18:56:00 -
[50] - Quote
welcome to the EvE forums, where any legitimate question newb or not results in flames and maybe, just maybe, one real response, which it seems you got. another person stated that if you file a petition and ask the question, you will get a response that it is a ban-able offense
BTW, nice goon alt |

Taedrin
Kushan Industrial
173
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Posted - 2011.12.15 19:10:00 -
[51] - Quote
Xenuria wrote:Sverige Pahis wrote:Get a load of that CCP guy you just wanted to know if you could use FXAA Post Process Injector and he didn't answer can you believe that? She is just doing her job... Which is to troll the userbase as much as possible without losing profit.
I thought that was our job! |

Generals4
Caldari State
543
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Posted - 2011.12.15 19:14:00 -
[52] - Quote
Taedrin wrote:Xenuria wrote:Sverige Pahis wrote:Get a load of that CCP guy you just wanted to know if you could use FXAA Post Process Injector and he didn't answer can you believe that? She is just doing her job... Which is to troll the userbase as much as possible without losing profit. I thought that was our job!
No our job is to troll the userbase regardless of the effects on profit. Subtle but yet important difference. -Death is nothing, but to live defeated and inglorious is to die daily. |

Pak Narhoo
Knights of Kador
68
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Posted - 2011.12.15 19:16:00 -
[53] - Quote
I laughed so hard on page two reading the dev response that I got punished with a when I tried to load page 3. When I tried to go back to page 2 I got once again punished with a page again.
FFS CCP! FIX! your STUPID forum! And it is stupid because it only works half of the time. 
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oldbutfeelingyoung
VIRTUAL EMPIRE VANGUARD Vanguard Ascendants
34
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Posted - 2011.12.15 19:20:00 -
[54] - Quote
Jade Constantine wrote:Xenuria wrote:CCP Nullarbor wrote:Xenuria wrote:If I use the FXAA Post Process Injector to enhance the graphical appeal of eve will I get banned? Is this a violation of the EULA? An Official Response From CCPDude... your face? (If this answer is not satisfactory you probably need to file a petition) Not my fault the monocle looks stupid on my face... I also did file a petition. It may not be your fault the monocle looks ridiculous but it is your fault you bought one and its certainly your fault you choose to display it on a remarkably unattractive avatar. Also, lol at the dev response - there's the ccp I remember 
yeah and other threads are not getting any response or are locked for no good reason great way to go |

Pak Narhoo
Knights of Kador
68
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Posted - 2011.12.15 19:27:00 -
[55] - Quote
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:yeah and other threads are not getting any response or are locked for no good reason great way to go
That can be I think explained.
Only a few moderators left (4-5?). They simply do not have the time to filter out the bad stuff. Either you play nice within the rules of this rather large community or suffer the consequences: locked/ deleted posts. Top that of with it being almost Christmas, and you are down to maybe 2 moderators and 2 who may have some spare time to freely jump in an hour or so a day. |

oldbutfeelingyoung
VIRTUAL EMPIRE VANGUARD Vanguard Ascendants
38
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Posted - 2011.12.17 19:40:00 -
[56] - Quote
another reply from ccp ,although he was trolling |

Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
546
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Posted - 2011.12.17 19:45:00 -
[57] - Quote
Dude, your face.... The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |

Xenuria
Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet Hearts And Minds Alliance
39
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Posted - 2011.12.17 19:47:00 -
[58] - Quote
my petition has yet to be answered... |

Thredd Necro
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
79
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Posted - 2011.12.17 20:14:00 -
[59] - Quote
CCP Nullarbor wrote:Xenuria wrote:If I use the FXAA Post Process Injector to enhance the graphical appeal of eve will I get banned? Is this a violation of the EULA? An Official Response From CCPDude... your face? (If this answer is not satisfactory you probably need to file a petition)
Cold shot.
And yeah dude...your face. Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so. - Douglas Adams |

Kuronaga
Controlled Substance
29
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Posted - 2011.12.18 01:07:00 -
[60] - Quote
Xenuria wrote:CCP Nullarbor wrote:Xenuria wrote:If I use the FXAA Post Process Injector to enhance the graphical appeal of eve will I get banned? Is this a violation of the EULA? An Official Response From CCPDude... your face? (If this answer is not satisfactory you probably need to file a petition) Not my fault the monocle looks stupid on my face... I also did file a petition.
The monocle doesn't look stupid on your face.
Your face looks stupid on the monocle. |

Digital Messiah
Heroic Era
80
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Posted - 2011.12.18 01:30:00 -
[61] - Quote
IB4 "get out nasty face"
And I don't think the FXAA PP would get you banned. But running by CCP is a good idea. By this time I imagine you made a petition? "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn" Enter a Heroic Era Today |

iCaldari
QWERTY ASDFG
4
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Posted - 2011.12.18 01:35:00 -
[62] - Quote
I tried to use it, and dont see any major change graphically speaking.
I think this is a myth. In eve it doesnt work. |

Nisa Darksoul
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2011.12.18 01:40:00 -
[63] - Quote
I switched avatars so that I wouldn't be bothered by your face...
to be honest FXAAPPI is probably more trouble than it's worth in eve, and I suspect the legal reason why you shouldn't be able to modify the eve executable to use it is that if something goes wrong and FXAAPPI makes eve spazz out or something, and that does something horrible to your computer, then CCP doesn't want to be responsible for the consequences. When you come down to it, you are altering the game executable which is specifically forbidden in the EULA.
At the same time, I don't think CCP would hunt you down for it |

Thevi Olin
Eve Liberation Force Fatal Ascension
0
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Posted - 2011.12.18 02:17:00 -
[64] - Quote
Best trololol thread of 2011 |

Lyrrashae
Crushed Ambitions Reckless Ambition
66
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Posted - 2011.12.18 02:37:00 -
[65] - Quote
CCP Nullarbor wrote:Xenuria wrote:If I use the FXAA Post Process Injector to enhance the graphical appeal of eve will I get banned? Is this a violation of the EULA? An Official Response From CCPDude... your face? (If this answer is not satisfactory you probably need to file a petition)
^^^Looooooool....ALPHA'ed!!!
Dev-troll, best troll  I A/F/K cloak in Jita. Does that count? |

Lyrrashae
Crushed Ambitions Reckless Ambition
66
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Posted - 2011.12.18 02:38:00 -
[66] - Quote
Jade Constantine wrote: [...] Also, lol at the dev response - there's the ccp I remember 
Indeed!
Glad you could make it, CCP, it's good to see you back I A/F/K cloak in Jita. Does that count? |

Anna Lynne Larson
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2011.12.19 18:18:00 -
[67] - Quote
Well, I can't see the original face anymore, but I'm told by many people (including a CCP Dev, apparently) that it was worthy of "Dude... your face?" |

Karash Amerius
Sutoka
25
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Posted - 2011.12.19 18:32:00 -
[68] - Quote
Players are so quick to forget epic eve-based memes it seems. |

Famble
Three's a Crowd
163
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Posted - 2011.12.19 18:52:00 -
[69] - Quote
Anna Lynne Larson wrote:Well, I can't see the original face anymore, but I'm told by many people (including a CCP Dev, apparently) that it was worthy of "Dude... your face?"
Dude, your boobs!
If anyone ever looks at you and says, "Hold my beer, watch this,"-á you're probably going to want to pay attention. |

Mirei Jun
Right to Rule
25
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Posted - 2011.12.20 01:27:00 -
[70] - Quote
Dude... She's got "Tiger Blood" |
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