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Shirei Minmatar Cutting Edge Incorporated	Posted - 2007.01.28 10:25:00 - [31] Don't put words in my mouth. All I said is, it is a fan-site (although one that got the right to use the eve-online.de domain from CCP), unlike what some people in this thread said.
c0rn1 Seraphin Technologies S.E.R.A	Posted - 2007.01.28 10:25:00 - [32] Edited by: c0rn1 on 28/01/2007 10:23:16 Originally by: Malachon Draco Heh, brilliant move. I can't blame D2. If spying is allowed, then counterspying also needs tools to be effective. If that takes a bit of inventive use of IPs and resources, so be it. I have sympathy for any counterspying effort because I consider spies despicable. Yeah, very brilliant to use the website which just sits right on a CCP owned DNS, so it should remain untouched and neutral. Guess this will have strong consequences. Most likely the rights will of the current Admins will be removed and the DNS-Entry changed into the void. Originally by: Shirei Don't put words in my mouth. All I said is, it is a fan-site (although one that got the right to use the eve-online.de domain from CCP), unlike what some people in this thread said. Trust me, before getting access to DNS they had to sign an NDA. x x x x x x x x x x x x x x Life's a waste of time ...
Ilmonstre Minmatar Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.01.28 10:26:00 - [33] don't be such babies. the spy got caught so tough luck get over it and start over again. and it has been said they will use any way to gain a advantage to win from the opponent and as noted before no hacking was involved since its only registered by name and all the managing if the site is done from the same location as xtraders.de
Dragutinovic Caldari Storm Thesis	Posted - 2007.01.28 10:28:00 - [34] Originally by: Shirei Don't put words in my mouth. All I said is, it is a fan-site (although one that got the right to use the eve-online.de domain from CCP), unlike what some people in this thread said. Didnt ment it as such m8 , just gettin a bit confused about it Besides whats teh big deal ? If BoB does something nasty its ok if someoen else might be doing nasty they demand teh banstick , in GNW they didnt even got a warning about a certain action so i suggest the BoB horde hush . _____________ Recruit me ! Im back !
jsman99 Maza Nostra	Posted - 2007.01.28 10:30:00 - [35] Originally by: Svett So they used an offical eve-online resource to get private IP addresses. That seems a bit much, in fact it should get some bans. Thats uncool stuff right there. How do you know they didn't just get IP's after all. Didnt someone said all is fair in love and war?
jsman99 Maza Nostra	Posted - 2007.01.28 10:32:00 - [36] Originally by: Avon Originally by: Attak BoB uses out of game methods to spy, D2 uses out of game methods to catch spies. Not sure what the big controversy is. No, BoB use social engineering to spy. That may lead them to be given access to OOG resources (forums / TS /Vent), but that is very different to hacking those resources directly. This is actually quite a worrying turn of events .. although nowhere near as worrying as the OP's actions. He should have been banned by now. wtf ?? this is a joke bob did exactly the same thing SPARE US THE DRAMA.!!
Lowa Gallente North Star Networks Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.01.28 10:36:00 - [37] Interesting. Dont like this kinda stuff but yeah, interesting. Originally by: Shirei Edited by: Shirei on 28/01/2007 10:08:29 Like most international eve-online.* forums, the domain is owned by CCP, but all content (including web-hosting etc.) is provided by players. If you do a nslookup on eve-online.de, you will find that it uses the same IP as www.xtraders.de. Question is; does that make it better or worse? I tend to lean on the second option... I pretty much hate all spying and once it had started (even so little) I knew it would grow and become much more complicated. And dirty. Cant say I like to be correct this time. /Lowa What if the truth was something else?
maedden Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.28 10:36:00 - [38] All I have to add is that I am sad for clizz who does his best to provide a service for the german speaking community. Sad that apparently all sides try to abuse this and use it for their propaganda instead of being grateful for the work that he and his team put in.
Cmd Woodlouse Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.01.28 10:36:00 - [39] 1st: The spy which came from the german BoB player "Matuk Jela" was not revealed due to Ovarons actions, but by the acts of another german BoB player called "Chrony". On a personal note: i hope that this spiral doesnt get any lower - the ghosts that i called... But i also hope that there will be soon capable ingame possibilities to catch spies. Right now as it is, its nearly impossible to do so w/o any form of outgame actions... --------------------------------
INZi coracao ardente	Posted - 2007.01.28 10:37:00 - [40] lol. i r in ur forumz haxing your ipz

Sinlare Gallente Sinlare Auditorium	Posted - 2007.01.28 10:38:00 - [41] Originally by: Lowa Interesting. Dont like this kinda stuff but yeah, interesting. Originally by: Shirei Edited by: Shirei on 28/01/2007 10:08:29 Like most international eve-online.* forums, the domain is owned by CCP, but all content (including web-hosting etc.) is provided by players. If you do a nslookup on eve-online.de, you will find that it uses the same IP as www.xtraders.de. Question is; does that make it better or worse? I tend to lean on the second option... I pretty much hate all spying and once it had started (even so little) I knew it would grow and become much more complicated. And dirty. Cant say I like to be correct this time. /Lowa So true, it's sad.. and all those that defend it.
Ogul Caldari ZiTek Deepspace Explorations Prime Orbital Systems	Posted - 2007.01.28 10:38:00 - [42] Stop whining, spyz0rs. This is the world you created.
Shirei Minmatar Cutting Edge Incorporated	Posted - 2007.01.28 10:39:00 - [43] Edited by: Shirei on 28/01/2007 10:37:43 Originally by: c0rn1 Trust me, before getting access to the DNS they had to sign an NDA. You know that based on what information exactly? IIRC, eve-online.de was used by this forum before the domain was owned by CCP. So for all we know CCP might simply have allowed them to continue using it after they secured the rights to their trademark domain name. Obviously, something like this is not very nice at all, and CCP is perfectly in the right to not allow them to continue using their domain anymore - but I doubt there are any EULA or legal implications.
V0idz Herrscher der Zeit	Posted - 2007.01.28 10:44:00 - [44] Originally by: Ogul Stop whining, spyz0rs. This is the world you created. true. --------- EVE is like the "Fisherman's Friend" of MMOs. If it's too hard, you are too weak.
Bwal Caldari Constructive Influence	Posted - 2007.01.28 10:45:00 - [45] Edited by: Bwal on 28/01/2007 10:42:13 Quote: It is important to note that unlike the US, under European Union law IP Addresses are considered to be personal data as defined by article 2(a) of Directive 95/46/EC " 'personal data' shall mean any information relating to an identified or identifiable natural person ('data subject'); an identifiable person is one who can be identified, directly or indirectly, in particular by reference to an identification number or to one or more factors specific to his physical, physiological, mental, economic, cultural or social identity; " Also see Directive 2006/24/EC. In association with Time Codes, IP Addressing information will always identify unique ISP account holders unless there is translation of that information. It is important that this significant difference in legal status is appreciated, since Websites that provide for third party interception of IP addressing information and Traffic Data, without Website visitor consent, are committing a criminal offence in the UK by virtue of the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000, where through the requirements of European Council Decision 2005/222/JHA such Website owners face serious sanctions, including the winding up of their businesses, being debarred from running a business, and more than 2 years imprisonment. You are infringing on my rights regarding the usage of my IP address for your personal use in third party matters. This is against the law and you are liable. I suggest CCP sort this matter out before it escalates "Pain makes man think. Thought makes man wise. Wisdom makes life endurable."
Baun 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.01.28 10:46:00 - [46] If there is any legitimate complaint here at all it should be directed to the operators of the website for giving out that information, not to D2 for using it once obtained. Nothing that they did was any more "meta gamey" than methods employed by everyone to both spy and protect themselves from spies, in game and out. The Enemy's Gate is Down
jsman99 Maza Nostra	Posted - 2007.01.28 10:46:00 - [47] Originally by: Sinlare Originally by: Lowa Interesting. Dont like this kinda stuff but yeah, interesting. Originally by: Shirei Edited by: Shirei on 28/01/2007 10:08:29 Like most international eve-online.* forums, the domain is owned by CCP, but all content (including web-hosting etc.) is provided by players. If you do a nslookup on eve-online.de, you will find that it uses the same IP as www.xtraders.de. Question is; does that make it better or worse? I tend to lean on the second option... I pretty much hate all spying and once it had started (even so little) I knew it would grow and become much more complicated. And dirty. Cant say I like to be correct this time. /Lowa So true, it's sad.. and all those that defend it. Yeah i felt the same for bob who had to hax the ASCN vent/TS whatever. roflmao as their skills were inadequate to win in a fair fight.. what a joke you guys are..
thesulei Syndicate Technologies	Posted - 2007.01.28 10:56:00 - [48] I would think that CCP owns the eve-online.de domain as a "just in case" strategy, to be able to pull the plug on it should they find that it contradicts their interests. The website itself is clearly player-run and doesn't convey any other truth. Thus, in my book, it is ok what D2 did. Get over it bobbits.
Maltere	Posted - 2007.01.28 11:01:00 - [49] Unidentified characters cannot post in this forum. Please show your corp/alliance before posting. Please email [email protected] if you have any questions - Karl Chroimcer
Sinlare Gallente Sinlare Auditorium	Posted - 2007.01.28 11:07:00 - [50] Originally by: jsman99 Originally by: Sinlare Originally by: Lowa Interesting. Dont like this kinda stuff but yeah, interesting. Originally by: Shirei Edited by: Shirei on 28/01/2007 10:08:29 Like most international eve-online.* forums, the domain is owned by CCP, but all content (including web-hosting etc.) is provided by players. If you do a nslookup on eve-online.de, you will find that it uses the same IP as www.xtraders.de. Question is; does that make it better or worse? I tend to lean on the second option... I pretty much hate all spying and once it had started (even so little) I knew it would grow and become much more complicated. And dirty. Cant say I like to be correct this time. /Lowa So true, it's sad.. and all those that defend it. Yeah i felt the same for bob who had to hax the ASCN vent/TS whatever. roflmao as their skills were inadequate to win in a fair fight.. what a joke you guys are.. I doubt bob hacked anything, people falsely accusing are just as sad as people who hax.

D2O HeavyWater Amarr Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.01.28 11:08:00 - [51] lol superb. Unlucky BoB
Druida Caldari The Huns	Posted - 2007.01.28 11:10:00 - [52] Edited by: Druida on 28/01/2007 11:08:42 Originally by: Maltere Bob got owned. Now they cry. Awww why ppl here must turn everthing to bob? This is about the abuse of confidential information under a oficial CCP domain name. This topic is not about Bob or D2 or any alliance! So Wake up!
jsman99 Maza Nostra	Posted - 2007.01.28 11:11:00 - [53] Originally by: Sinlare Originally by: jsman99 Originally by: Sinlare Originally by: Lowa Interesting. Dont like this kinda stuff but yeah, interesting. Originally by: Shirei Edited by: Shirei on 28/01/2007 10:08:29 Like most international eve-online.* forums, the domain is owned by CCP, but all content (including web-hosting etc.) is provided by players. If you do a nslookup on eve-online.de, you will find that it uses the same IP as www.xtraders.de. Question is; does that make it better or worse? I tend to lean on the second option... I pretty much hate all spying and once it had started (even so little) I knew it would grow and become much more complicated. And dirty. Cant say I like to be correct this time. /Lowa So true, it's sad.. and all those that defend it. Yeah i felt the same for bob who had to hax the ASCN vent/TS whatever. roflmao as their skills were inadequate to win in a fair fight.. what a joke you guys are.. I doubt bob hacked anything, people falsely accusing are just as sad as people who hax. Poeple who play in the forums are as sad as people who mine in a titan
Dragutinovic Caldari Storm Thesis	Posted - 2007.01.28 11:11:00 - [54] Originally by: Druida Originally by: Maltere Bob got owned. Now they cry. Awww why ppl here must turn everthing to bob? This is about the abuse of confidential information under a oficial CCP domain name. What ever bob did before was not under any CCP domain.!! So Wake up! Ingame is not under CCP domain ? _____________ Recruit me ! Im back !
Lobo13 Gallente Beyond-Redemption Koroshiya Buntai	Posted - 2007.01.28 11:14:00 - [55] Escalation Under construction. If you look close enough you can see the little men building it.[.B.R.]
jernej Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.28 11:14:00 - [56] Have rules or laws been broken?
Xendie Forsaken Empire The Forsaken Empire	Posted - 2007.01.28 11:14:00 - [57] im guessing that some ppl will get slapped with legal actions. not neccesarily the persons who were given the IP's but the ones that gave them out who worked for CCP moderating a CCP registered domain. i hope that they shut down eve-online.de and force the germans to learn english and learn how to follow the eula and to follow the laws. if not ban them and jail the bastids. Quote: Nertzius > having fun being incompetitent? Quote: jake sisko > its f-e's bob dev alt making lag
Druida Caldari The Huns	Posted - 2007.01.28 11:14:00 - [58] Edited by: Druida on 28/01/2007 11:11:31 Originally by: Dragutinovic Originally by: Druida Originally by: Maltere Bob got owned. Now they cry. Awww why ppl here must turn everthing to bob? This is about the abuse of confidential information under a oficial CCP domain name. What ever bob did before was not under any CCP domain.!! So Wake up! Ingame is not under CCP domain ? Humm can you get confidential player information like IP address INGAME? No.
Oleifr Caldari The X-Trading Company Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.01.28 11:15:00 - [59] Originally by: Kugutsumen For those who private messaged or eve-mailed me saying it is a fan site: Offizielle deutsche EVE-Online Seite means Official German EVE-Online Site. Whois output: Quote: Domain data [17]Domain: eve-online.de [18]Latest update: 31.10.2006 Domain holder The domain holder is DENIC's contractual partner and hence holds the material rights to the domain. [19]Domain holder: CCP hf. [20]Address: Grandagarour 8 [21]Postal code: 101 [22]City: Reykjavik [23]Country: IS btw. you are violating german laws... to get the information above you had to read this text and clicked the accept button under this text... Quote: The domain "xxx-xxxxxx.de" has already been registered. If you want further information about the holder of this domain, its special contacts and its technical data, you will first have to agree to the following Terms and Conditions of Use: Terms and Conditions of Use All the domain data that is visible in the whois search is protected by law. It is not permitted to use it for any purpose other than technical or administrative requirements associated with the operation of the Internet or in order to contact the domain holder over legal problems. You are not permitted to save it electronically or in any other way without DENIC's express written permission. It is prohibited, in particular, to use it for advertising or any similar purpose. By clicking the "Accept" button, you give an assurance that you have a legitimate interest in the data and that you will only use it for the stated purposes. You are aware that DENIC maintains the right to initiate legal proceedings against you in the event of any breach of this assurance and to bar you from using its whois query. you saved it electronical here to this forum, think about it..
Xendie Forsaken Empire The Forsaken Empire	Posted - 2007.01.28 11:17:00 - [60] Originally by: Oleifr Originally by: Kugutsumen For those who private messaged or eve-mailed me saying it is a fan site: Offizielle deutsche EVE-Online Seite means Official German EVE-Online Site. Whois output: Quote: Domain data [17]Domain: eve-online.de [18]Latest update: 31.10.2006 Domain holder The domain holder is DENIC's contractual partner and hence holds the material rights to the domain. [19]Domain holder: CCP hf. [20]Address: Grandagarour 8 [21]Postal code: 101 [22]City: Reykjavik [23]Country: IS btw. you are violating german laws... to get the information above you had to read this text and clicked the accept button under this text... Quote: The domain "xxx-xxxxxx.de" has already been registered. If you want further information about the holder of this domain, its special contacts and its technical data, you will first have to agree to the following Terms and Conditions of Use: Terms and Conditions of Use All the domain data that is visible in the whois search is protected by law. It is not permitted to use it for any purpose other than technical or administrative requirements associated with the operation of the Internet or in order to contact the domain holder over legal problems. You are not permitted to save it electronically or in any other way without DENIC's express written permission. It is prohibited, in particular, to use it for advertising or any similar purpose. By clicking the "Accept" button, you give an assurance that you have a legitimate interest in the data and that you will only use it for the stated purposes. You are aware that DENIC maintains the right to initiate legal proceedings against you in the event of any breach of this assurance and to bar you from using its whois query. you saved it electronical here to this forum, think about it.. maybe he is german and cant read english. Quote: Nertzius > having fun being incompetitent? Quote: jake sisko > its f-e's bob dev alt making lag



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