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Pryce Caesar Cloak and Daggers Fidelas Constans 35	Posted - 2016.01.29 18:18:38 - [91] - Quote I wouldn't do that. Anyone who depends on the SP trading as a crutch wouldn't be worth the time, anyway. It's not a game-breaker, since its function is as a [b]time-saver
Avvy Republic University Minmatar Republic 288	Posted - 2016.01.29 18:36:44 - [92] - Quote Pryce Caesar wrote: I wouldn't do that. Anyone who depends on the SP trading as a crutch wouldn't be worth the time, anyway. It's not a game-breaker, since its function is as a [b]time-saver lol I guess you think the same about those buying from the character bazaar then. Wonder how many of those you have in your corp/alliance.
Pryce Caesar Cloak and Daggers Fidelas Constans 35	Posted - 2016.01.29 18:45:48 - [93] - Quote Avvy wrote: Pryce Caesar wrote: I wouldn't do that. Anyone who depends on the SP trading as a crutch wouldn't be worth the time, anyway. It's not a game-breaker, since its function is as a [b]time-saver lol I guess you think the same about those buying from the character bazaar then. Wonder how many of those you have in your corp/alliance. My post wasn't finished. I wouldn't know, since I don't ask. I also would not know, because I do not spend money to acquire items for in-game use, PLEX or otherwise. If there is anything I want to buy, I'll buy it with the in-game ISK.
Edward Deegan 36	Posted - 2016.01.29 18:49:24 - [94] - Quote The only answer to this problem: Shoot 'Em All And Let God Sort 'Em Out Liquidity Event. NEA is really good at these events. They are number one. Good to have them in your corner. Smart move.
Isaac Armer The Soup Kitchen 99	Posted - 2016.01.29 19:21:59 - [95] - Quote Alea wrote: This is not a recruitment post it's just a feeler. Just curious, myself being a bitter vet who's jimmies are rustled hard core over SP injection who would want to add some content for the instant gratification kiddies after that feature is implemented.? Either be via a dedicated corp or steal the idea of NPSI fleets and hunt with whomever wants to join a special fleet or maybe another way.? Not wanting to do a lame CODE type of venture something closer to real pvp, be it in HS, low or null. Of course this all hinges on if CCP will keep SP injection hidden from other players, I personally feel SP injection needs to be reflected in a characters profile in one form or another, a form of shaming if you will. Any interest or ideas.? Lets hear them.. Let's hunt down and kill people who hide behind NPC forum alts when posting. I might buy some SPs. Come find me. I hang out near dodixie ATM. Until then, I will season my lunch with the salt from your posts about this.
Alea Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 183	Posted - 2016.01.29 20:44:18 - [96] - Quote Isaac Armer wrote: Let's hunt down and kill people who hide behind NPC forum alts when posting. I might buy some SPs. Come find me. I hang out near dodixie ATM. Until then, I will season my lunch with the salt from your posts about this. You don't have to hunt her I'll tell you where this char is at, she's setting in a Wolf (I think?) logged off is space, Sivala system I believe, use a locator agent if you want to wast the ISK. If you want to find my main characters you'll need to travel much further, head towards the North I live out that way somewhere, doubt you'll get very close though. I have stated numerous times over the years why I will not post with any of my mains, if you really need to know look for my response to another player who asked me the same question in this thread, getting tired of retyping it over and over. Fellow Eve players please take note: In case you haven't yet noticed HTFU is going to be replaced with P(ay)TFU, that is all..
Isaac Armer The Soup Kitchen 99	Posted - 2016.01.29 21:04:30 - [97] - Quote Alea wrote: You don't have to hunt her I'll tell you where this char is at, she's setting in a Wolf (I think?) logged off is space, Sivala system I believe, use a locator agent if you want to wast the ISK. If you want to find my main characters you'll need to travel much further, head towards the North I live out that way somewhere, doubt you'll get very close though. I have stated numerous times over the years why I will not post with any of my mains, if you really need to know look for my response to another player who asked me the same question in this thread, getting tired of retyping it over and over. You're upset about people taking advantage of a new SP system for personal gain, while at the same time you take an advantage of hiding behind NPC forum alts to avoid repercussion for stupid ideas? That's either hypocritical or a bit sad. Not sure which. Maybe both.
Trader20 Hedion University Amarr Empire 5	Posted - 2016.01.29 21:45:07 - [98] - Quote I would probably just troll them in my free time. I wouldn't care enough to track them down and emo rage at them.
Alea Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 183	Posted - 2016.01.29 21:57:20 - [99] - Quote Isaac Armer wrote: Alea wrote: You don't have to hunt her I'll tell you where this char is at, she's setting in a Wolf (I think?) logged off is space, Sivala system I believe, use a locator agent if you want to wast the ISK. If you want to find my main characters you'll need to travel much further, head towards the North I live out that way somewhere, doubt you'll get very close though. I have stated numerous times over the years why I will not post with any of my mains, if you really need to know look for my response to another player who asked me the same question in this thread, getting tired of retyping it over and over. You're upset about people taking advantage of a new SP system for personal gain, while at the same time you take an advantage of hiding behind NPC forum alts to avoid repercussion for stupid ideas? That's either hypocritical or a bit sad. Not sure which. Maybe both. This account is fueled by PLEX, PLEX purchased by other players, I only gain the use of this account by doing so, I gain no advantage over other players by doing that compared to buying SP, depending on the cost of injecting SP that may be out of reach for some players, which is similar to pay to win in my eyes. The advantage I gain from using a clean alt is that I keep my position (pay), standings (related to pay) and respect of my in game piers (alliance), I may or may not lose those if I was openly using one of my mains but I prefer to stay on the safe side and will continue using this account for my forum based shenanigans. I'm sorry if I offend you by wanting to "keep my job" but if you were in the same position in this game as I am and made the same ISK that I do you would most certainly be doing something similar to cover your ass. Fellow Eve players please take note: In case you haven't yet noticed HTFU is going to be replaced with P(ay)TFU, that is all..
Isaac Armer The Soup Kitchen 100	Posted - 2016.01.29 22:07:10 - [100] - Quote Alea wrote: This account is fueled by PLEX, PLEX purchased by other players, I only gain the use of this account by doing so, I gain no advantage over other players by doing that compared to buying SP, depending on the cost of injecting SP that may be out of reach for some players, which is similar to pay to win in my eyes. The advantage I gain from using a clean alt is that I keep my position (pay), standings (related to pay) and respect of my in game piers (alliance), I may or may not lose those if I was openly using one of my mains but I prefer to stay on the safe side and will continue using this account for my forum based shenanigans. I'm sorry if I offend you by wanting to "keep my job" but if you were in the same position in this game as I am and made the same ISK that I do you would most certainly be doing something similar to cover your ass. So other players should HTFU and gains SPs the hard way, but you shouldn't harden up and post with your main(s)? Interesting. Back to the original topic, I do now want to help you hunt people who buy skillpoints with the new system. Convo me with your main in game and we can talk details on how to root them out.
Alea Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 183	Posted - 2016.01.29 23:02:55 - [101] - Quote Isaac Armer wrote: Alea wrote: This account is fueled by PLEX, PLEX purchased by other players, I only gain the use of this account by doing so, I gain no advantage over other players by doing that compared to buying SP, depending on the cost of injecting SP that may be out of reach for some players, which is similar to pay to win in my eyes. The advantage I gain from using a clean alt is that I keep my position (pay), standings (related to pay) and respect of my in game piers (alliance), I may or may not lose those if I was openly using one of my mains but I prefer to stay on the safe side and will continue using this account for my forum based shenanigans. I'm sorry if I offend you by wanting to "keep my job" but if you were in the same position in this game as I am and made the same ISK that I do you would most certainly be doing something similar to cover your ass. So other players should HTFU and gains SPs the hard way, but you shouldn't harden up and post with your main(s)? Interesting. Back to the original topic, I do now want to help you hunt people who buy skillpoints with the new system. Convo me with your main in game and we can talk details on how to root them out. Obvious bait is obvious. I done it the hard (normal) way since 2003, it's not all that hard if you use implants and learn how to utilize your remaps effectively. If I were to embark on this endeavor I have unsubbed accounts that are more than capable to participate, my subbed accounts are unavailable It's more than apparent that what I would like to do will not come to light, it appears I am the minority in this jimmie rustle. Fellow Eve players please take note: In case you haven't yet noticed HTFU is going to be replaced with P(ay)TFU, that is all..
Elyia Suze Nagala Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 77	Posted - 2016.01.29 23:27:22 - [102] - Quote I was wondering this myself. Ithink gankers could absolutely have a field day with this one.
Isaac Armer The Soup Kitchen 100	Posted - 2016.01.29 23:50:36 - [103] - Quote Alea wrote: Obvious bait is obvious. I done it the hard (normal) way since 2003, it's not all that hard if you use implants and learn how to utilize your remaps effectively. If I were to embark on this endeavor I have unsubbed accounts that are more than capable to participate, my subbed accounts are unavailable It's more than apparent that what I would like to do will not come to light, it appears I am the minority in this jimmie rustle. Just pointing out your hypocrisy, no more, no less. When you feel like not taking the easy way out with your brave NPC alt-ing on forums, I can start to take this thread as anything but a joke.
Alea Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 183	Posted - 2016.01.30 00:50:45 - [104] - Quote Isaac Armer wrote: Alea wrote: Obvious bait is obvious. I done it the hard (normal) way since 2003, it's not all that hard if you use implants and learn how to utilize your remaps effectively. If I were to embark on this endeavor I have unsubbed accounts that are more than capable to participate, my subbed accounts are unavailable It's more than apparent that what I would like to do will not come to light, it appears I am the minority in this jimmie rustle. Just pointing out your hypocrisy, no more, no less. When you feel like not taking the easy way out with your brave NPC alt-ing on forums, I can start to take this thread as anything but a joke. Then I must apologize for asking you to engage in this thread, if I had known me forum whoring on an alt would upset you this much I never would have asked for your input, so please accept my apology for the blatant disregard of your feelings, I promise to seek therapy. Fellow Eve players please take note: In case you haven't yet noticed HTFU is going to be replaced with P(ay)TFU, that is all..
Isaac Armer The Soup Kitchen 100	Posted - 2016.01.30 01:59:05 - [105] - Quote Alea wrote: Then I must apologize for asking you to engage in this thread, if I had known me forum whoring on an alt would upset you this much I never would have asked for your input, so please accept my apology for the blatant disregard of your feelings, I promise to seek therapy. Oh, not upset, just entertained. You're as salty as a rookie who got ganked in their first week. Keep it up please.
Kyra Lee Ixian Machines TOG - The Older Gamers Alliance 47	Posted - 2016.01.30 05:01:34 - [106] - Quote So back to the topic of the OP. As for tracking and hunting down players that have injected SP it will be tough to do. One way to start is by participating in the system. Sell SP injectors(obtain them however you want) yourself and then watchlist anyone who buys them from you. It's true that it may be some alt or an alliance level logistics officer who purchases them but at least its a start. I would be willing to bet that most players will buy the injectors on the character that is going to use them. Cargo scanning ships as the undock in hubs and looking for injectors and extractors is another way to go about it. Gaining the intel is the hard part. On a personal note I don't feel that identifying anyone ingame who injects SP is a good thing. Something like that should be reserved for a full API.
Alea Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 183	Posted - 2016.01.30 06:10:13 - [107] - Quote Kyra Lee wrote: So back to the topic of the OP. As for tracking and hunting down players that have injected SP it will be tough to do. One way to start is by participating in the system. Sell SP injectors(obtain them however you want) yourself and then watchlist anyone who buys them from you. It's true that it may be some alt or an alliance level logistics officer who purchases them but at least its a start. I would be willing to bet that most players will buy the injectors on the character that is going to use them. Cargo scanning ships as the undock in hubs and looking for injectors and extractors is another way to go about it. Gaining the intel is the hard part. On a personal note I don't feel that identifying anyone ingame who injects SP is a good thing. Something like that should be reserved for a full API. CCP may agree with you but I feel if you're going to artificially enhance your character it should be reflected somewhere in that characters information. To be honest what I want is easy mode SP injection identification, I want to be able to look at a characters information and see if it has been artificially enhanced, SP amount and times injected need not to be reflected but the action should be.. In reality the above will most likely never happen as that may bring undo attention to players who use that feature, which goes against CCPs cuddling of players who want to be safe everywhere. Fellow Eve players please take note: In case you haven't yet noticed HTFU is going to be replaced with P(ay)TFU, that is all..
Epic Name The Lost. SpaceMonkey's Alliance 147	Posted - 2016.01.31 06:47:50 - [108] - Quote You can find me out in Pure Blind.
Nick Bete The Scope Gallente Federation 389	Posted - 2016.01.31 07:04:51 - [109] - Quote Alea wrote: I am not an elitist, well I don't feel that I am anyway, anybody who knows me in this game would say I'm more than fair, honest and very charitable.. What has brought me to this point is the idea of SP trading, I don't feel that is right for Eve, it's as simple as that. I can't (won't) post with (any of) my main(s) as I could/would risk most everything that I have worked for in the past lotsa years, I resurrected this account about five or so years ago to forum whore for friends just starting out, she has no other use for me as she only has 4 or so mill SP.. No I will not be injecting SP into Alea as I don't need another useless character. Gotcha. I called it in my previous post; you're just a forum trolling blowhard and hypocrite. You say you want the game to have consequences but when the rubber meets the road you're not ready to live by your high-minded words.
Avvy Republic University Minmatar Republic 291	Posted - 2016.01.31 11:51:12 - [110] - Quote Alea wrote: CCP may agree with you but I feel if you're going to artificially enhance your character it should be reflected somewhere in that characters information. With a character from the bazaar it matters as the character originally belonged to someone else. But with sp packets it doesn't matter as the character remains yours. You will get some idea anyway from the date of birth of the character. People keep thinking about how their character compares to someone else's. Well it no longer matters and hasn't done since the character bazaar. A lot of people have used the bazaar, so the purity of the skill queue (community) has for all time been tainted. So instead of worrying about the purity in someone else's skill queue concentrate on the purity of your own skill queue if that's what you want to do.
Alea Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 189	Posted - 2016.01.31 18:39:31 - [111] - Quote Avvy wrote: Edit: Removed a line as the D.O.B. won't help as lots of people have breaks from the game. D.O.B. will highlight some but it's not a reliable method of being able to tell. DOB can also be misleading another way, I created my first corp back in 2003 a few days after I created my third account, I shoved all my characters into that corp then my Eve adventure began. Seven years later I jump my CEO toon out to create an alliance for a friend, low and behold I lost my birthday the second I joined his holding corp, seven years gone, unbeknownst to me CCP didn't always track employment history's, it was later in 2003 that they started to track them from what I was told by CCP while trying to regain my birthday, so me joining my own corp back in 2003 was not recorded. I'm not alone as CCP told me there are others with borked B-days, now it's pretty much irrelevant but it would still be nice to have my actual B-day reflected. Fellow Eve players please take note: In case you haven't yet noticed HTFU is going to be replaced with P(ay)TFU, that is all..
Alea Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 189	Posted - 2016.01.31 18:41:19 - [112] - Quote Isaac Armer wrote: Alea wrote: This account is fueled by PLEX, PLEX purchased by other players, I only gain the use of this account by doing so, I gain no advantage over other players by doing that compared to buying SP, depending on the cost of injecting SP that may be out of reach for some players, which is similar to pay to win in my eyes. The advantage I gain from using a clean alt is that I keep my position (pay), standings (related to pay) and respect of my in game piers (alliance), I may or may not lose those if I was openly using one of my mains but I prefer to stay on the safe side and will continue using this account for my forum based shenanigans. I'm sorry if I offend you by wanting to "keep my job" but if you were in the same position in this game as I am and made the same ISK that I do you would most certainly be doing something similar to cover your ass. So other players should HTFU and gains SPs the hard way, but you shouldn't harden up and post with your main(s)? Interesting. Back to the original topic, I do now want to help you hunt people who buy skillpoints with the new system. Convo me with your main in game and we can talk details on how to root them out. Read an earlier post on how I responded to the same question. Fellow Eve players please take note: In case you haven't yet noticed HTFU is going to be replaced with P(ay)TFU, that is all..
Alea Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 189	Posted - 2016.01.31 18:46:07 - [113] - Quote Avvy wrote: Pryce Caesar wrote: I wouldn't do that. Anyone who depends on the SP trading as a crutch wouldn't be worth the time, anyway. It's not a game-breaker, since its function is as a [b]time-saver lol I guess you think the same about those buying from the character bazaar then. Wonder how many of those you have in your corp/alliance. Quite a few, character bazaar is not the same animal, I can control who enters my corp, not so much who enters the alliance. Fellow Eve players please take note: In case you haven't yet noticed HTFU is going to be replaced with P(ay)TFU, that is all..
aldhura Bartledannians Nite Owls 33	Posted - 2016.01.31 18:57:18 - [114] - Quote Elyia Suze Nagala wrote: I was wondering this myself. Ithink gankers could absolutely have a field day with this one. What do you see them getting out of this?? nothing more than they currently get. Will you also target bought toons, as that is essentially the same thing. Can't say I am overly happy with this, but its the way the game is going, same as any other game mechanic, you just learn to live with it, or move on. Bartledannians Corporation is recruiting Nite Owls Alliance is recruiting
Infinity Ziona Cloakers 2366	Posted - 2016.01.31 23:10:14 - [115] - Quote Don't really care. Trading is a bad idea would have been better to let players sub ahead of time like sub for 12 months get 12 months of XP immediately at base rate for addition charge but whatever. Can't train for 12 months on that character. Have probably few hundred mill of sp to siphon off my chars so good for me. CCP Fozzie GÇ£We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-tonGÇª in null sec anomalies. GÇ£* Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Jenshae Chiroptera 2511	Posted - 2016.01.31 23:42:57 - [116] - Quote Alea wrote: Any interest or ideas.? Lets hear them.. Seed the markets and then check on those who buy them. Then target and hunt them down. CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids I will be voting for Xenuria because...
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe 6937	Posted - 2016.02.01 05:10:56 - [117] - Quote Jenshae Chiroptera wrote: Alea wrote: Any interest or ideas.? Lets hear them.. Seed the markets and then check on those who buy them. Then target and hunt them down. Damn, my poor market alts will get owned. it quickly became clear that many of you were able to see the potential benefits and that youGÇÖre also ready for some big changes in EVE, especially when they might help bring in newer players http://eveboard.com/ranks
Alea Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 192	Posted - 2016.02.01 05:46:02 - [118] - Quote Alavaria Fera wrote: Jenshae Chiroptera wrote: Alea wrote: Any interest or ideas.? Lets hear them.. Seed the markets and then check on those who buy them. Then target and hunt them down. Damn, my poor market alts will get owned. Wouldn't be worth the effort to go that route, too much effort for little return. There would have to be a way to find them wholesale, like scanning info's while setting at a gate for example. But it will not happen as the idea of hunting people who inject SP is not a popular idea from what I have seen in this thread, so I'm going to let it die. Fellow Eve players please take note: In case you haven't yet noticed HTFU is going to be replaced with P(ay)TFU, that is all..
Frostys Virpio KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 2544	Posted - 2016.02.01 05:49:36 - [119] - Quote Alea wrote: Alavaria Fera wrote: Jenshae Chiroptera wrote: Alea wrote: Any interest or ideas.? Lets hear them.. Seed the markets and then check on those who buy them. Then target and hunt them down. Damn, my poor market alts will get owned. Wouldn't be worth the effort to go that route, too much effort for little return. There would have to be a way to find them wholesale, like scanning info's while setting at a gate for example. But it will not happen as the idea of hunting people who inject SP is not a popular idea from what I have seen in this thread, so I'm going to let it die. We don't even know if it will be at all possible to know if someone used some beside obvious character way too young to pilot a ship. For all we know, it might be completely invisible to other player and you are just looking for interest in hunting ghosts. Wait to see how it really pans out THEN you might get people interested into it.
Avaelica Kuershin Paper Cats 232	Posted - 2016.02.01 07:13:57 - [120] - Quote Frostys Virpio wrote: Alea wrote: Alavaria Fera wrote: Jenshae Chiroptera wrote: Alea wrote: Any interest or ideas.? Lets hear them.. Seed the markets and then check on those who buy them. Then target and hunt them down. Damn, my poor market alts will get owned. Wouldn't be worth the effort to go that route, too much effort for little return. There would have to be a way to find them wholesale, like scanning info's while setting at a gate for example. But it will not happen as the idea of hunting people who inject SP is not a popular idea from what I have seen in this thread, so I'm going to let it die. We don't even know if it will be at all possible to know if someone used some beside obvious character way too young to pilot a ship. For all we know, it might be completely invisible to other player and you are just looking for interest in hunting ghosts. Wait to see how it really pans out THEN you might get people interested into it. There will be a way if the character has subscribed to certain services and submitted an appropriate API. Without co-operation from the 3rd party app/site though, one would have to use a more laborious method of tracking.

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