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Juwi Kotch
Gallente VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD
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Posted - 2007.01.29 21:27:00 -
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Ever experienced bank-sitting in Ultima Online? Players positioned their Avatars at a popular bank building in one of the virtual cities, just to show off their blaze clothes, sell things, steal from others, or looking for advice or things to buy. Some players spent the majority of their gametime sitting on a horse or the latest fashionable mount at the bank, chatting, bickering, shouting, and ranting.
You will see something like this in our stations as well, I bet.
I cannot wait to see that again !
Juwi Kotch
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Roy Batty68
Caldari Immortal Dead
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Posted - 2007.01.29 21:34:00 -
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Originally by: Carl Rabbit Walking in Stations (and later on planets, hopefully) is the logical next step to expand the EVE universe to a true virtual world. I have a hard time to wait for it, and when I despair from time to time with the limitations and the problems of EVE, thinking about this future promises is all what is needed to keep me on track.
Way to go, CCP, and I hope I don't have to wait to long for getting my own office at my corporations headquarters!
Juwi Kotch
I agree that, in the context of a successful MMO design, a better physical representation of your character seems like the logical next step. And I also share your enthusiasm for it.
However, I'm a little afraid of it's potential success. I'm sure many have turned away from EVE because there was no "dude" to identify with. So if this lacking element will be there in the future, how much more might EVE grow? Not that I wish CCP ill and want their playerbase to remain smallish, but they have been struggling with growing pains for quite awhile now... I just hope they can keep up.
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DiuxDium
Casting Shadows
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Posted - 2007.01.29 21:42:00 -
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Stations need their own chat channel though. The increased conversation will most likely cause a lot of local spam otherwise. --------------- PvP in EvE is not consentual.
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Zarottid Boznemmek
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.01.29 21:59:00 -
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Originally by: DiuxDium Stations need their own chat channel though. The increased conversation will most likely cause a lot of local spam otherwise.
Excellent point. I imagine it's so excellent, they already thought of it ;-)
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Zarottid Boznemmek
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.01.29 22:13:00 -
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The social aspect of stations might attract more real female players to Eve, which would help alleviate the sausage fest which exists in Eve currently :-D
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Rhaegar Targarin
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.01.29 22:14:00 -
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Originally by: Apocryphai Am I the only person who sees this whole direction as a complete waste of time and a total tangent away from the things that EVE needs most?
I'd rather have had Factional Warfare properly implemented, as it was originally described, and more effort devoted to making large fleet battles work than this fluff 
I am dieing to see factional warfare implemented, but this may turn out to be a good addition as well.
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Ekon Bor
ANZAC ALLIANCE Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.29 22:16:00 -
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I know its something that gained my wife's interest Anything to lever her away from guildwars and all the horny houswives she games with :P
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Skraeling Shortbus
Caldari Gallente Federal Bank Ratel Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.29 22:18:00 -
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Edited by: Skraeling Shortbus on 29/01/2007 22:19:32
Originally by: Apocryphai Am I the only person who sees this whole direction as a complete waste of time and a total tangent away from the things that EVE needs most?
yes. im sure more than a handful of people are put off on this game due to just the fact that we have no "legs". sometimes i just wanna kick someones ass... ya know with my foot.
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Chirsthoh
Minmatar Angels of Discord
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Posted - 2007.01.29 22:40:00 -
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I just want to stand next to my ship and rub her down with a shammy cloth saying, "good girl."
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Encelaedus
Caldari The Killer Department
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Posted - 2007.01.29 22:41:00 -
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This represents solid incremental evolution of the gameworld and a good business plan (as long as resources aren't ciphoned from the other critical dev teams to achieve it). It may also pay for itself through increased interest from other MMO players. I can only assume that it will take years to deploy in a playable way, though.
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Virida
Mindstar Technology United Confederation of Corporations
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Posted - 2007.01.29 22:46:00 -
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I though some more on that dance fright who exist in CCP, when i think of sirmolle and seleene dancing disco in a station, i sort of got NO idea why its seems "silly" 
I feel its natural for game chars who represent the biggest powers in a game, to stand and dance disco and doing Travolta moves Really, "honest"! 
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Juwi Kotch
Gallente VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD
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Posted - 2007.01.29 22:47:00 -
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Originally by: Encelaedus ...I can only assume that it will take years to deploy in a playable way, though.
Yes, I don't expect to walk in stations before late 2008, and would not be surprised if it will be 2009.
Juwi Kotch
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Illyna
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Posted - 2007.01.29 22:48:00 -
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Edited by: Illyna on 29/01/2007 22:44:53
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Diatom
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Posted - 2007.01.29 22:49:00 -
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Walking in the stations was a great part of Earth & Beyond. You could meet peeps there, they had Kiosk setups to sell stuf, a disco to dance, and places to select special missions. You could talk to some of the faction Avatars and get hints on missions. You could walk around your custom painted ship and just chat with other peeps. Bring it on CCP I for one will really enjoy it 
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FireWynd
Caldari Finis Lumen
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Posted - 2007.01.29 23:12:00 -
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Originally by: Diatom Walking in the stations was a great part of Earth & Beyond. You could meet peeps there, they had Kiosk setups to sell stuf, a disco to dance, and places to select special missions. You could talk to some of the faction Avatars and get hints on missions. You could walk around your custom painted ship and just chat with other peeps. Bring it on CCP I for one will really enjoy it 
I agree with you 100%. I absolulety loved that aspect of Earth and Beyond. In fact i can't imagine how it would of been without it. Walkin in stations is going to be a REALLY nice addition to Eve Online. I cannot wait for this feature to come, i wish we would have it soon, but patience will have to work here. Keep it up CCP!!!
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Zaolen Ying
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Posted - 2007.01.29 23:14:00 -
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Those who say it will provide nothing to do, just have no imagination.
All the things which you can imagine would happen on a station could happen in eve stations.
Imagine for example a casino, i would dearly love to play poker etc with ISK?
Or maybe a library where you can read literature written and submitted by players? (imagine a corporation or alliance filing their history somewhere, it would become famoose for those budding eve historians)
Lots of minigames seem like fun as well, maybe some sort of "cyber sports" room which contains mini games which pits you head to head against other people in a game of pong or something :P
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Se'la Rox
Caldari Contempo Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.01.29 23:14:00 -
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Can't wait for walking in stations, seems like a logical addition to the depth of the game (and universe).
I'm a little intrigued at how interactions will work between players. Is there a possibility of linking it with in-game voice coms? The idea of actually being able to talk to someone face-to-face is very appealing. Although that might shatter the illusion of some of the "cross-dressing" players 
Also, there's the possibility of combat. My only worry there is that there have to be limits, or it'll be a warzone. Judging by the concept art (Caldari station), there appears to be what look like security droids there. That, along with security personal, would probably help to keep the rowdier elements in line. Even out in low sec space, I'd imagine the factions owning the stations wouldn't really like the idea of their station operations being hindered by rioting pilots all the time.
I'd imagine the very low-sec and 0.0 station bars to be like Mos Eisley. Nice place, as long as you don't spill a pint on the shoes of that twitchy Brutor by the jukebox...
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Lrrp
Minmatar Gallente Mercantile Exchange
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Posted - 2007.01.29 23:35:00 -
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So with station walking ability, does this mean the gate campers will now have something else to do? 
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Zarottid Boznemmek
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.01.29 23:45:00 -
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Originally by: Lrrp So with station walking ability, does this mean the gate campers will now have something else to do? 
Yeah, they'll knife you in the back while you're having a fruity drink and their friends will loot your corpse after Concord dispatches them 
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Lucio
Gallente UK Corp Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.01.30 00:29:00 -
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Originally by: Jiekon
Another reason we have a team working on this is so that the benefits we add to EvE can be used in a new MMORPG based on Worlds of Darkness, an IP owned by White Wolf who we recently merged with. I believe it was Haldor and Hilmar that touched on the fact during the FanFest presentations that the walking in stations technology developed in EvE will help build a foundation for the Worlds of Darkness MMORPG.
I'm sorry but this has to be said...
You know a World of Darkness MMORPG is just gonna suck :)
Anyhow, with that out of the way, let's face facts, walking inside stations is pretty pointless for Eve. You rarely get more than a handful of people in most stations, and in a lot of locations people who are inside stations aren't actually at their keyboard. It's a waste of resources to devoate effort to this project.
I'd much rather see the same effort put into say, making a better use for planets (maybe alliances can conquer & colonise planets). ************************************************
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Magnum III
Journey On Squad
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Posted - 2007.01.30 00:53:00 -
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Great new from the DEVS, Cool Stuff going on, oh yeah, I'm hooked. Very entertaining future IMO. :)
P.S. lol, you guys are pretty funny, the EVE community and even the devs have a great sense of humor. :)
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mafesto
Minmatar Luna Tech Manufacturing Industries
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Posted - 2007.01.30 01:06:00 -
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Edited by: mafesto on 30/01/2007 01:03:48
Originally by: FireWynd
Originally by: Diatom Walking in the stations was a great part of Earth & Beyond. You could meet peeps there, they had Kiosk setups to sell stuf, a disco to dance, and places to select special missions. You could talk to some of the faction Avatars and get hints on missions. You could walk around your custom painted ship and just chat with other peeps. Bring it on CCP I for one will really enjoy it 
I agree with you 100%. I absolulety loved that aspect of Earth and Beyond. In fact i can't imagine how it would of been without it. Walkin in stations is going to be a REALLY nice addition to Eve Online. I cannot wait for this feature to come, i wish we would have it soon, but patience will have to work here. Keep it up CCP!!!
I agree as well
I played E&B, I really liked the walking around on stations and landing on planets in that game
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Wendat Huron
Lupus Industries
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Posted - 2007.01.30 01:18:00 -
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Originally by: Jiekon I think that it is very likely that stations will be on seperate nodes than the solar systems they are located in so lag shouldn't be an issue :)
Question is will the corpses of people floating into space once someone shoots out a window show to the ships outside?
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Maximillian Pele
Caldari Jewel Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.01.30 01:35:00 -
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Actually I'd prefer far more ship customisation before having an avatar who can do some emote dance.
Call me a cynic, but I get this terrible feeling that walking in stations will just become another time waster to allow CCP to stretch out a little more EvE's rather thin content.
Recent additions have all had the dual property of requiring months of skill training to do things that take inordinate lengths of time (ie salvaging and rigging). Frankly the padding is starting to reach "Robert Jordan" levels.
So I forsee walking avatars winding up as wasting minutes walking from A to B, wasting time in bars waiting for service, and ultimately sitting at desks filling in forms and tax returns in corporate offices.
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Wendat Huron
Lupus Industries
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Posted - 2007.01.30 01:51:00 -
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Originally by: Maximillian Pele Actually I'd prefer far more ship customisation before having an avatar who can do some emote dance.
Call me a cynic, but I get this terrible feeling that walking in stations will just become another time waster to allow CCP to stretch out a little more EvE's rather thin content.
Recent additions have all had the dual property of requiring months of skill training to do things that take inordinate lengths of time (ie salvaging and rigging). Frankly the padding is starting to reach "Robert Jordan" levels.
So I forsee walking avatars winding up as wasting minutes walking from A to B, wasting time in bars waiting for service, and ultimately sitting at desks filling in forms and tax returns in corporate offices.
You fail to see the need for a great many people to have a manifested character to be able to get into a game.
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Benco97
Gallente Multiverse Corporation
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Posted - 2007.01.30 01:54:00 -
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can I please have my character wearing my multicoloured rainbow hat +1? it's very dear to me and it just wouldn't be right without it. i've had it for years.
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Firecrak
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Posted - 2007.01.30 02:04:00 -
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Originally by: Jiekon Another reason we have a team working on this is so that the benefits we add to EvE can be used in a new MMORPG based on Worlds of Darkness, an IP owned by White Wolf who we recently merged with. I believe it was Haldor and Hilmar that touched on the fact during the FanFest presentations that the walking in stations technology developed in EvE will help build a foundation for the Worlds of Darkness MMORPG.
Great.. I love WoD, have done for years. But in the mean time, while we aren't CCP/White Wolf shareholders and don't beta test your new project, can we please see less fluff for other games and more fixing of this one please?
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Stitcher
Caldari J.I.T. Enterprises Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.30 02:25:00 -
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Edited by: Stitcher on 30/01/2007 02:22:06 So which part of "CCP has multiple teams working on multiple aspects of the game" is not clear, here?
EVE needs to evolve in order to continue to survive as a game. It's not enough just to fix known issues and tweak things - without new features eventually the game will stagnate. With it becoming increasingly difficult to find available niches into which new ships could be placed CCP are forced to look in new and more creative directions to satisfy the need for the game to evolve... which I think is all to the good.
I'm really looking forward to the stations project, and I don't consider it as "unnecessary fluff" at all - this introduction leads into all kinds of new possibilities, and over time we might see EVE slowly transform into something so much bigger and more epic than it was before. Sure, there are areas of the core game that still need tweaking... but where's the harm in CCP taking the game in new directions at the same time? It's their project, they can do what they like with it, I've approved of (nearly) everything they have done to it thus far, and don't predict that trend altering anytime in the near future.
in other words: go to it CCP. I have the utmost faith in your ability not to screw it up too horribly 
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Magnum III
Journey On Squad
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Posted - 2007.01.30 02:55:00 -
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Edited by: Magnum III on 30/01/2007 03:05:42
For me, this being some day used in a White Wolf game makes me know they will be taking this seriously and it wonÆt just be a gimmick.
This would be done well since it will not just be an add on for EVE since it is being designed to be a main part of another game.
So yeah it will be cool for EVE and IMO would really become a huge addition for people to play EVE and ones already playing to not get bored and quit for a while.
Already IÆve heard so many good ideas that IÆm looking foreword to it.
P.S. The conplaints are cool too, other games have done these things pretty bad so yeah, tell CCP what you don't want to see.
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j0sephine
Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.30 03:18:00 -
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"whatever the usefulness of it in a crossover situation, EvE needs walking avatars like a fish needs a bicycle."
Oh i dunno, it has potential... :s
(i guess the exotic dancers in the background kind of answers Rho's question -.o
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