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Reptar
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Posted - 2003.12.09 11:34:00 -
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Does anybody know why she was booted from the NVA, and now wants to pod them all? She doesn't seem to know why they booted her, any answers NVA.
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Kurenin
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Posted - 2003.12.09 11:52:00 -
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Dude, now everyone is going to think your my alt 
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[22:02] <Kurenin> anyhow, on a more serious note, what did you think of those ideas?
[22:02] <Hammerhead> we can't do anything that requires programming
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Ac3s
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Posted - 2003.12.09 11:56:00 -
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first of all, nonyabisnes.
second, I think they kicked him out for ignoring ranks (leader told him to stay and he didnt so leader died in tempest)
So I think its all about bad feelings for eachother.
+ after he got kicked out he invited all PKs to join NVA channel, was pretty funny though ;)
But from my experience with Kurenin, hes mainly a hotheaded freelancer, a skilled fighter who doesnt listen to anyone but his own voice in hes head.
Hes a cool guy mainly, just somethimes hes a bit agressive to fast and that goes wrong with most people.
If they only would try to see trough the hotheaded pilot they will see a cool player just trying to survive like all of us, nothing wrong with that really.
(btw, kurr if ur reading this, remember what I told ya )
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Miso
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Posted - 2003.12.09 12:04:00 -
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Sorry about the way it worked out Kurenin. Stay in touch and I hope you find what it is you're looking for in Eve.
There is enough *****ing and stupidity in Eve as it is, I don't wanna add to it.
Take care Kur,
Miso x
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Kurenin
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Posted - 2003.12.09 12:16:00 -
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first of all, nonyabisnes.
second, I think they kicked him out for ignoring ranks (leader told him to stay and he didnt so leader died in tempest)
I was leader, I told them to warp out, they stayed, they got ganked.
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[22:02] <Kurenin> anyhow, on a more serious note, what did you think of those ideas?
[22:02] <Hammerhead> we can't do anything that requires programming
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Mojo JoJo
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Posted - 2003.12.09 12:24:00 -
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i didnt see that
why did you want to leave anyway we out numbered them we wanted a fight we camped that gate for hours
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Kurenin
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Posted - 2003.12.09 12:31:00 -
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Raven, tempest, bb, and an arma cant take 3 scorps, especially as the bb was poorly kitted
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[22:02] <Kurenin> anyhow, on a more serious note, what did you think of those ideas?
[22:02] <Hammerhead> we can't do anything that requires programming
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Mojo JoJo
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Posted - 2003.12.09 12:33:00 -
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wich bb was poorly kitted mine or the other guys there were 2
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slothe
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Posted - 2003.12.09 13:20:00 -
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Raven, tempest, bb, and an arma cant take 3 scorps, especially as the bb was poorly kitted
i would tend to agree with this
pity to lose you if your gone :(
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Zarthan
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Posted - 2003.12.09 14:35:00 -
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pending your not clueless about warfare your forces had an advantage over the very low firepower scorps. Scorpion's are highly overated vs other battleships and mostly are good because people don't know how to setup a ship.
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Negotiator
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Posted - 2003.12.09 14:44:00 -
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they arealy arent...trust me, a scorp can put out realy good damage...
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Grunch
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Posted - 2003.12.09 15:01:00 -
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So if Kurenin was LEADER it doesnÆt matter why, she told everyone to warp out. The people under her command that did not warp out got upset because they did not listen and got killed. Now, they are upset and looking to blame some one and god forbid they blame themselves for their stupidityààno better to fry Kurenin
One wordàLame!
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Mojo JoJo
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Posted - 2003.12.09 15:31:00 -
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The people under her command that did not warp out got upset because they did not listen and got killed.
id like to note that i get killed a few times a week its hardley any skin off my back
ether way im sure its not "THE" reason she isnt in NVA now i have no idea why but that battle was days ago maybe even a week ago
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.12.09 15:39:00 -
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The sacking of Kurenin from Jericho Fraction had nothing to do with the NVA, initially anyhow. The long and the short of it was; that Kurenin had proved a poor fit for Jericho, had been formally warned a couple of times for behaviour unbecoming, and was ultimately tagged for dismissal by my security directors.
This was a shame, since I actually liked Kurenin as a person, but she had a very hot temper and a lot of frustrations with Eve and the way things were in the NVA.
For the record of course Kurenin did well from her time at Jericho, with pretty much free access to ordinance, equipment and NVA rate ship replacements and such. And there was at the time of the dismissal no issue of stealing or malfeasance to be considered.
Sadly however things didnÆt work out that way.
Firstly,
KureninÆs initial action on being sacked was to invite every pirate in Eve into NVA secure chat as ôrevengeö for being dismissed.
Secondly,
It turned out Kurenin was in receipt of a 300million-ish personal loan from another Jericho member at the time of the dismissal. Needless to stay Kurenin found the matter very amusing and played me for a couple of hours as I begged her to return this money to the guy in question. (A chap who had nothing to do with the sacking decision and had lent Kurenin the money as a charitable gesture to help her recover from recent ship losses.)
Thirdly,
Kurenin approached a number of corporations with a bulk load of internal Jericho Fraction corp chatlogs with the intention of either selling them, or causing whatever havoc might be caused pertaining to recent JF issues.
Fourthly,
Kurenin rounded on me with the following blood-curdling threat à
[ 2003.12.08 22:56:12 ] Kurenin > but i think your a bad leader and im going to make you suffer
To which I have to say, ôà take a ticket and join the queue.ö
In conclusion,
Like I said, I am personally sad we had to dismiss Kurenin. This represents a personal failure for me, since I made the hiring decision at the time based on Kurenin talking to me at length for her desire and ambition to join a decent corporation and be part of a dynamic progressive team. I took a risk and it failed. Regardless of the reasons for the dismissal there is absolutely no merit to the actions Kurenin took last night.
It proved my security directors absolutely right in wanting Kurenin dismissed, she was, (in the words of one) ôa ticking bombö and itÆs fairly obvious to me that she would eventually have gone off.
All the pain and scandal now forthcoming is likely to be a better alternative to what may have happened if she had remained in place.
And that, mÆdears, is the story.
Love and peace
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Maud Dib
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Posted - 2003.12.09 15:59:00 -
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It was interesting to see people log into the chat and then notice all the pirates in it. Was nice to talk to some old comrades though.
Some of the less interesting SI weren't quite so welcome.
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Miso
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Posted - 2003.12.09 16:06:00 -
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TBH, I'm getting pi ssed off with all the backstabbing and stirring going on in Eve right now. I hope people can be adults about this and that Kurenin returns the money that was loaned.
Lets all get on and play the game.
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Fred0
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Posted - 2003.12.09 16:13:00 -
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You both burned yer bridges with each other. Why on earth should she give the money back? 
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.12.09 16:21:00 -
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Re the money my friend, what can I say. If dismissing a person for breaching corporate standards is reason enough for that person to steal a lot of somebody else's money, then hey, we really do live in strange times.
All I know monsieur is that if someone lent me money out of the goodness of their heart to help me recover from unfortunate losses ... I would pay it back whatever might happen in the interim.
There is a theory for all this taught to me a long time ago by a good friend, and though it will never survive the profanity filter it goes ...
A **** will always find an excuse to **** you.
In this case its ... "I would have payed them back but now since you did "X" I won't."
Child's argument.
The sad thing is its not money belonging to any of the people that decided to sack Kurenin. Just a wellwisher and ex-corp mate.
Whatever happens the loss will be made good and we trust that Kurenin will either do the decent thing,
Or be remembered as someone that you shouldn't lend money too.
Either way, whats done is done
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Rohann
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Posted - 2003.12.09 16:59:00 -
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Never lend ISK to anyone in the game. If a person needs ISK then try to get something of equal value from that person until they can pay you back. Rare items that you can sell for example, if the party involved has any. If not then you can buy a homing beacon from me that I have had specially designed to work with my "Uber l337 BFG 50000 Deathbringer Torpedos" that when shot will automatically find their target up to 80 jumps away. Very effective I tell you.
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SithEwok
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Posted - 2003.12.09 17:26:00 -
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Kurenin used to be a member in the FA. Got booted for being a general turd.
I remember he offered me a 5 run scorp bp @ min lvl 5 for a nice price of about 16mill. I came to pick it up from civ space, the general turd changed the price on me. Began to up his price, I tried to negotiate with him, but then he ignored me. Lots of times he would give info on where an enemy was, then ask for help, then complain about the ship he was in and run off. Same story different day different system.
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Raven DeBlade
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Posted - 2003.12.09 17:44:00 -
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Kurenin was booted from A corp, who is in NVA... not the same as booted from NVA.
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Lilan Kahn
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Posted - 2003.12.09 18:35:00 -
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dont worry abut the guy hes justa what i woud call a backstaper have fun whit him
Originally by: Eris Discordia
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Reptar
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Posted - 2003.12.09 19:57:00 -
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 rofl, way to go kur, just came back from work really cheered me up
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Kurenin
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Posted - 2003.12.09 20:06:00 -
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Woot woot, put your hands in the air \o/ woot woot!
I got one word for you Jade.
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Silence, no one cares, have a cookie!!
Sithewok, Killgorde didnt let me sell it to you for 16m, so end yourself 
Lilan Kahn, your just a nubbie.
Reptar, you rock dude...
Negotiator, yep, scorp does alot of dmg if kitted well.
Zarthan, if your scorp does so little dmg, you must be kitting it right, got a little bit of advice for you = learn to kit your ships better
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[22:02] <Kurenin> anyhow, on a more serious note, what did you think of those ideas?
[22:02] <Hammerhead> we can't do anything that requires programming
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Djarid
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Posted - 2003.12.09 22:19:00 -
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As most of you know there is no love lost between JEDI and Jericho Faction (We have never been TTI). That aside I have to side with Jade about the repayment of the loan regardless of circumstance.
It is amazing what you can accomplish if you do not care who gets the credit.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.12.10 01:06:00 -
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I got one word for you Jade.
Silence, no one cares, have a cookie!!
No-one cares? Try "borrowing" 300million from someone else, we'll see who cares.
Bridges=Burned.
Have a nice day.
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Monarch
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Posted - 2003.12.10 09:17:00 -
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All of this makes me kinda glad that I'm broke all the time 
Honestly, I help people all the time, but since I don't have much, it's mainly newer players, and a frigate is a small cost in comparison to some of the scaming/ripoff artists/thieving people that play the game.
 Someone should make a site that has a list of known offenders of such offenses so that the mistake isn't repeated by other people that don't read the forums.
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Hitomi
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Posted - 2003.12.10 09:53:00 -
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I agree on the repayment thing. I always return what i owe, and i wish that everyone else would too.
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darth solo
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Posted - 2003.12.10 10:31:00 -
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Kurenin
Pay the guy back matey.
Just to give all u kurenin haters a bit of a laugh, he lost his BS in torrinos, trying to ransom some ore containers off last night.
The guy said no, kurerin blew up the containers, the police blew up him.
not very smart.
But spose what goes around comes around.
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J3tt
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Posted - 2003.12.10 11:12:00 -
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Edited by: J3tt on 10/12/2003 11:13:11
RULES suck ass
thats what SI is badass
only gotta remember 1 thing
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