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Graalum
Foundation R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.01.30 19:35:00 -
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I paid good isk for those, having them deleted without notice is certainly not satisfactory.
to quote a corp mate on the subject:
Asperger > another step towards a more idiot friendly and less enjoyable game
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zykerx
Pegasus Mining and Securities R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.01.30 19:38:00 -
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/signed
atleast had given a warning them we could have had a nice big snowball fleetbattle before patchday
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Liisa
Freelancing Corp Confederation of Independent Corporations
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Posted - 2007.01.30 19:40:00 -
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Please tell me that you are joking.
Please, I beg you! ----------------------------------
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alterEg0
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.01.30 19:41:00 -
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Bugger now i know why mine wont work. wheres the notes patch notes on this CCP!
IM still hoping its a mess up.
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OBI WAN
Dark Knights of Deneb Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.01.30 19:42:00 -
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"Snowballs from 2005 have melted! Due to lack of maintenance the snowball launchers have got clogged up and broken."
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Originally by: n sx Death to you and your sugar coated empire.
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zykerx
Pegasus Mining and Securities R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.01.30 19:42:00 -
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patchnotes: (added after patch) Snowballs from 2005 have melted! Due to lack of maintenance the snowball launchers have got clogged up and broken
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Brisi
Violence for Dummies
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Posted - 2007.01.30 19:44:00 -
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May I just add:
wtfLAME!!!1111
I am Brisi, I am as One. Resistance is fertile.
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Tarantella Serpantine
Clarf Inc
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Posted - 2007.01.30 20:07:00 -
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Edited by: Tarantella Serpantine on 30/01/2007 20:06:55 meh, if you hadn't used them by now. then i doubt you ever would, the rainy day never comes. also, "another step towards a more idiot friendly and less enjoyable game" CCP giveth and CCP taketh away; removing something which was just a gift to players over a year ago is hardly game breaking. -- Love is the Law, Love under Will |

Kharakan
Amarr Magnificent Beavers Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2007.01.30 20:14:00 -
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Originally by: zykerx patchnotes: (added after patch) Snowballs from 2005 have melted! Due to lack of maintenance the snowball launchers have got clogged up and broken
Cheeky gits  this signature space is claimed in the name of eris, haha I got to him first. neeneer
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Liberator Girl
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Posted - 2007.01.30 20:16:00 -
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i HATE ccp for that. They also said that we'd be given something new , hot, christmas 2006, but never got it. Someone was too lazy to think about it. And not only that. They didnt give us anything, ok , fine with me. But they even took away what they already gave ? There's a polish proverb : "Who gives and takes, burns in hell ". Keep that in mind.
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Graalum
Foundation R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.01.30 21:21:00 -
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Edited by: Graalum on 30/01/2007 21:19:12
Originally by: Tarantella Serpantine Edited by: Tarantella Serpantine on 30/01/2007 20:06:55 meh, if you hadn't used them by now. then i doubt you ever would, the rainy day never comes. also, "another step towards a more idiot friendly and less enjoyable game" CCP giveth and CCP taketh away; removing something which was just a gift to players over a year ago is hardly game breaking.
Originally by: zykerx /signed
atleast had given a warning them we could have had a nice big snowball fleetbattle before patchday
EDIT: what if they just got rid of all the guardian-Vexors or other collector item because they were just a gift to players?
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Jei'son Bladesmith
Caldari Bladesmith Mining and Development Consortium
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Posted - 2007.01.30 21:26:00 -
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I have never before complained or whined about any nerfs or changes CCP has made, but this seriously ****ed me off. Snowball fights were fun. I paid millions for my stash of launchers and snowballs and used them regularly.
Not giving us anything for xmas 06 is one thing, but why take this away too, especially without any warning or explanation (and that little line on the patch notes added after the fact does NOT count as explanation)
That was just plain mean  *** Confidence keeps you alive...cockiness will get you podded *** |

KaptnSparrow
Caldari TARDZ Gods of Night and Day
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Posted - 2007.01.30 21:29:00 -
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Edited by: KaptnSparrow on 30/01/2007 21:26:45
Originally by: Graalum
EDIT: what if they just got rid of all the guardian-Vexors or other collector item because they were just a gift to players?
damn now I just noticed my guardian-vexor is gone including the full rack of the snowball launchers. So give it back 
...ok just kidding about the vexor, but my snowballs are gone :(
btw whats up dude, didn't see you in a loooong time :)
i was used to be ceo and now I have nothing to say, this is so relaxing :) |

KaptnSparrow
Caldari TARDZ Gods of Night and Day
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Posted - 2007.01.30 21:30:00 -
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Originally by: Jei'son Bladesmith I have never before complained or whined about any nerfs or changes CCP has made, but this seriously ****ed me off. Snowball fights were fun. I paid millions for my stash of launchers and snowballs and used them regularly.
Not giving us anything for xmas 06 is one thing, but why take this away too, especially without any warning or explanation (and that little line on the patch notes added after the fact does NOT count as explanation)
That was just plain mean 
yeah but with invention and prob. T2 snoballs and so... i was used to be ceo and now I have nothing to say, this is so relaxing :) |

Tarantella Serpantine
Clarf Inc
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Posted - 2007.01.30 21:47:00 -
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Originally by: Graalum Edited by: Graalum on 30/01/2007 21:19:12
Originally by: Tarantella Serpantine Edited by: Tarantella Serpantine on 30/01/2007 20:06:55 meh, if you hadn't used them by now. then i doubt you ever would, the rainy day never comes. also, "another step towards a more idiot friendly and less enjoyable game" CCP giveth and CCP taketh away; removing something which was just a gift to players over a year ago is hardly game breaking.
Originally by: zykerx /signed
atleast had given a warning them we could have had a nice big snowball fleetbattle before patchday
EDIT: what if they just got rid of all the guardian-Vexors or other collector item because they were just a gift to players?
could be wrong here, but i thought people won the guardian vexors in an event of some sort? almost all other special ships were given out as part of events too i think, which is a completely different thing to giving all the players an item as a bit of fun a year ago. -- Love is the Law, Love under Will |

UberAlt
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Posted - 2007.01.30 21:49:00 -
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Great, collecting to have a collecters item and then finding out that CCP just ereased your stuff
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Tarantella Serpantine
Clarf Inc
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Posted - 2007.01.30 21:52:00 -
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Edited by: Tarantella Serpantine on 30/01/2007 21:50:14 Edited by: Tarantella Serpantine on 30/01/2007 21:49:34
Originally by: Jei'son Bladesmith I have never before complained or whined about any nerfs or changes CCP has made, but this seriously ****ed me off. Snowball fights were fun. I paid millions for my stash of launchers and snowballs and used them regularly.
Not giving us anything for xmas 06 is one thing, but why take this away too, especially without any warning or explanation (and that little line on the patch notes added after the fact does NOT count as explanation)
That was just plain mean 
ccp didn't force you to buy up everyone elses snowball launchers, nor did they promise they would give special gifts out every christmas. seriously, there are more deserving things of CCPs time. would you rather they had made supar leet snowball launchers for this year, or put kali back another week?
EDIT: its hardly a collectors item if everyone was given one. -- Love is the Law, Love under Will |

a2kred
Matari BackBone
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Posted - 2007.01.30 21:54:00 -
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Pathetic and pointless. What was wrong ccp, snowballs causing too much strain on the database? ___
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Ari'Tichook
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Posted - 2007.01.30 22:03:00 -
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Edited by: Ari''Tichook on 30/01/2007 22:03:20 WHAT THE ***
That's just not bloody on. I'm in a bad mood already, now I'm really <miffed>. They don't give us anything this year, expect us not to notice, then just effective destroy the gift we'd already been given, how is that fair? Are you trying to annoy the hell out of us CCP?
Originally by: Tarantella Serpantine Edited by: Tarantella Serpantine on 30/01/2007 21:50:14 ccp didn't force you to buy up everyone elses snowball launchers, nor did they promise they would give special gifts out every christmas. seriously, there are more deserving things of CCPs time. would you rather they had made supar leet snowball launchers for this year, or put kali back another week?
Frankly, YES. When I got my snowballs it was a very nice touch, I felt a real sense of the playerbase being cared for, it was a nice token to hand out. I don't care for massive new expansions with more capital ships and prettier explosions. As for setting it back another week...how long would it take to make something original for us to have this year? Hardly a week.
I play Eve for the completeness and wholeness of the game, I love the mature playerbase that manages to avoid catching so many infuriating american 12 year olds, and I loved being able to just fly through space and gaze at how pretty everything was when I started playing, it's things like that that made me fall in love with the game, not Titans.
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Matonius2
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Posted - 2007.01.30 22:09:00 -
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Quote: EDIT: what if they just got rid of all the guardian-Vexors or other collector item because they were just a gift to players?
Please give back my snowball launcher!
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Sonos SAGD
Minmatar Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.30 22:18:00 -
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Originally by: Jiekon
Originally by: Sonos SAGD why did you remove snowballs?
I was saving mine as collectors items and would have used them had i known that they were gonna be deleted in 1.3?
technically from a roleplaying standpoint how can snowballs melt when ice for pos fuel not?
Snowballs were only as big as your head. these took 2 years to melt.
Ice for POS fuel is 1,000 m3 a LOT bigger than your head. Thus takes a LOT longer to melt.
They were removed due to the number of people using them to coax people into shooting back in empire space and thus, getting concorded.
this was the answer i got in the feed back thread. i think a goood comprimise would be to have them have a concord response in high sec just no sec loss in .4 or less
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Devilish Ledoux
Caldari Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.01.30 22:23:00 -
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So snowballs from 2005 were melted ... but I got mine last month, and so did my corpie (who says that his are melted, as well.) When I get home, am I going to find 6000 little piles of water? If so, why the hell did they give me so damned many in the first place? RABBLE!!! _
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Pesadel0
Vagabundos
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Posted - 2007.01.30 22:32:00 -
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What a stupid thing to do CCP ,next elfs have invaded eve?
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Nadar
Minmatar hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.01.30 22:36:00 -
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I didn't even notice, but I feel sad now. My precious snowball launcher - gone forever :( ---
What I write are my own opinions and it does not reflect my corp or alliance opinions, so kindly bugger off.
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voidvim
Minmatar Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.01.30 22:40:00 -
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it see a bit mean of cpp to take back gifts
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Tarantella Serpantine
Clarf Inc
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Posted - 2007.01.30 23:01:00 -
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Originally by: voidvim it see a bit mean of cpp to take back gifts
its a bit mean not to use a gift that is given to you -- Love is the Law, Love under Will |

Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2007.01.30 23:07:00 -
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Weren't the snowballs suppose to be a Christmas ONLY thing anyways?
IE, they were going to be gone the next week?
Seems like some people are just mad that CCP removed them now instead of 5 6 weeks ago.
Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
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j0sephine
Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.30 23:09:00 -
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Must say that's rather bonehead way to go around "fixing" the (mis)use of the snowballs; if the problem was people baiting with them in the high security space it could be easily changed by making the snowballs too large to fit the launchers. Or by making them regular weapons doing something like 1 hp of damage that still count as starting aggression... No need to delete the items entirely.
I kept my stack intact from the moment they were put in the hangar simply because it was nice thing to have, so rather miffed about it :|
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Maverick McDougel
Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.01.30 23:25:00 -
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that's just mean taking them away. modify them so they actually cause damage(or at least cause agression) and you don't have to worry about people sploiting them.
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Chejun Ishari
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Posted - 2007.01.30 23:44:00 -
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Same thing happened to my T2 Firefly F.O.F missiles a while back =/
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Taipan Gedscho
Taipan Industries
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Posted - 2007.01.30 23:49:00 -
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Edited by: Taipan Gedscho on 30/01/2007 23:45:13 i bet any of my cruisers, ccp knew very well, that snowball launchers were going to be used to trick people into getting concordokkened.
i might add, im pretty sure, whoever came up with the idea of snowball launchers found this rather funny, and i bet some other devs had a good giggle or two, too.
and i think its rather lame, that now, 2 years later, they cant stand up to their own joke anymore.
eve is (hopefully) never gonna be like WoW. but i tells ya one ting: whenever a mmorpg is making a move toward the whiners/petitioners that got tricked into something, the mmorpg is dying a little.
this little death of mmorpgs is gonna be called "wowification" or something.
our children will use that word, coz it will be a fixed part of the english language. it will be used, everytime something gets dumbed down another notch.
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madaluap
Gallente Mercenary Forces Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2007.01.31 00:10:00 -
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GODDAMNED! I had 3 launchers and 200 snowballs FFS
/emote sits in a corner and cries  _________________________________________________ Breetime
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Calisto Cody
Minmatar The Black Swan Society
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Posted - 2007.01.31 00:31:00 -
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bloody stupid, i didnt waste alot of mine so i could use them for years to come
Originally by: subvert
Originally by: Pwny McPwnerson I would not put a bounty on a washing machine, for instance.
if your washing machine was going around killing people you would
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CrimsonSky
Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.31 01:05:00 -
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Well this... this is no good..
Now what do I do with my 20 Snowball Launchers and 1200 Melted Snowball MMVs? 
"But again, EVE is much less focused on combat and dangerous encounters than other online RPGs"-Gamespot.com |

Chronus26
Gallente Vale Heavy Industries SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.31 01:44:00 -
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Edited by: Chronus26 on 31/01/2007 01:40:10 If you paid good money for something that everybody got for free at the time, i'd say the joke is on you. -----
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Xthril Ranger
hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.01.31 03:11:00 -
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snowball launcher , they never felt like a natural part of Eve. You should have played Earth and Beyond. That was a game where snowballlaunchers would feel right in the game.
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6Bagheera9
Shadows of the Dead Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.31 03:22:00 -
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Seriously, WTF?! I was just going to go down to empire and set-up a drake with 7 launchers for ****s and giggles.
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Prophaniti013
Vinyl Roid
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Posted - 2007.01.31 03:54:00 -
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I'm unable to go online now, but you mean to say that all the SB launchers are now...just gone? I think I just s*** myself in sadness, wtf? I just got a couple of them :(
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Xendie
Forsaken Empire The Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.31 03:55:00 -
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bleeh one more fun thing removed from the game.
Quote: Nertzius > having fun being incompetitent?
Quote: jake sisko > its f-e's bob dev alt making lag
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Dammar
Amarr Ephorate
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Posted - 2007.01.31 05:17:00 -
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wtf is this ****?
They give them out as GIFTS and then take them away FOR NO REASON?
What a bunch of ****heads.
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Taris Gedar
Caldari Rage of Angels Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.01.31 05:56:00 -
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Please dont get personal people!!
But still ..i want mine back as well - you dont take back a present ..especially not by force!
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Tinasterus
Minmatar VS Technologies
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Posted - 2007.01.31 06:40:00 -
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I agree I wasnt arround when they were given out. I purchased some because they were just bloody fun to use. If they were melted because of people getting lured into being concorddokken'd then I fear EVE is heading down a road I may not want to travel down. I have lost a few billion in ships to lag and my own stupidity, not once did I feel the need to complain or file petitions to replace my ships. I demand CCP reconstitute my Snowballs. |

Waut
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.01.31 08:32:00 -
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Edited by: Waut on 31/01/2007 08:29:12 Noticed it last night. I was annoyed we didn't get a gift this year, but this was a stab in the back.
Lame
In Soviet EVE, roids pop YOU
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Kendar
Gallente 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.01.31 08:54:00 -
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Morsus Mihi to the shutlelauncher mobiles
We are storming JITA!!!!
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Tarantella Serpantine
Clarf Inc
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Posted - 2007.01.31 08:54:00 -
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Edited by: Tarantella Serpantine on 31/01/2007 08:51:08 meh, i'm not even gonna bother anymore. if you bought loads of other people, you're not gonna get anything but laughed at. if you're flaming ccp for taking them away, what makes you think they're gonna want to give you something ever again as a gift now you're hurling abuse at them? its been over a year since they were given out, you've had enough time to use them. Get over it. -- Love is the Law, Love under Will |

Keitaro Baka
Babylon Scientific and Industrial Enterprises Babylon Project
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Posted - 2007.01.31 08:57:00 -
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Empire concordoken trickery indeed was something they knew of right at the beginning.. I honestly don't care that they removed them,
But,
they should have made it into an event. Mention the snowballs were made using somekind of chemical which is breaking down soonÖ and that there will be big snowball fights in 'random systems' in the 4 states (high sec otherwise some people will put 'stones' in their 'snowballs') to celebrate the comming of the Jin-Mei new year or something.
That means a great fight event for everyone, people will love ccp for doing it and it will be a nice stress test, people won't be annoyed by kicking stuff out of the database without warning, only positive stuff here...
Of course it's more work than just delete column where name contains snowball.. really a missed opportunity here, I'm amazed the event team didn't stop this..
.. too bad guys, too bad ..
All the stuff above does not necessarily reflect my corp, my alliance or even me.. Drone guide.. |

ArchenTheGreat
Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.01.31 09:07:00 -
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Damn you CCP (/me shakes fists) I payed a lot of ISK for my balls... ummm... snawballs. It was nice collector item, shame you deleted them.
Is there a chance to give them back?
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Haniblecter Teg
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.01.31 09:10:00 -
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WHAT THE ****. I WANTED TO CON MC INTO SHOOTING ME WITH THOSE THINGS. WTF, LET ME KNOW YOU FRICKIN ICELANDERS! ---------------------------------------- Friends Forever
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Spanker
Genco
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Posted - 2007.01.31 09:40:00 -
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Snowball launchers as such I coudn't care less about - what's bad is the fact that they have removed a tradeable item from the game. Have they compensated those who bought theirs for big money? People buying something for millions of isk and having it just disintigrate from under their noses is just unheard of. I'd be just a "bit" angry 
- Shpank |

Pinky Denmark
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Posted - 2007.01.31 09:52:00 -
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They could at least have launched a guns for food program with the snowballs hehe
I always thought that those selling snowball launchers didn't deserve them in the first place, but still shocking news... And 1 or 2 devs actually mentioned TomB was in charge of christmas gifts last christmas (Oveur told him to do it).
I still think harmless goodlooking Smartbombs looking like firework would be cool...
Pinky
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Shadowsword
COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.01.31 09:57:00 -
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Damn, I wanted to wait till they were forgotten, then use mine to push some clueless LV to get themselves concordoken in Jita. 
One plan goes out the window... ------------------------------------------ Every ship has a base 60-70% resist against the primary damage type of the race that is the least able to vary it's damage types. |

Amarria Lightwielder
N.A.G.A Corporation
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Posted - 2007.01.31 10:15:00 -
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increadably stupid solution, well done ccp! (not) -
-- Sound in EVE |

Arimai
hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.01.31 10:20:00 -
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Originally by: Tinasterus I agree I wasnt arround when they were given out. I purchased some because they were just bloody fun to use. If they were melted because of people getting lured into being concorddokken'd then I fear EVE is heading down a road I may not want to travel down. I have lost a few billion in ships to lag and my own stupidity, not once did I feel the need to complain or file petitions to replace my ships. I demand CCP reconstitute my Snowballs.
Let's just remove the ability to lock a non-wartarget in highsec all together, removes the ability for people to get themselves concordokkened, yaaay...
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Tarantella Serpantine
Clarf Inc
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Posted - 2007.01.31 10:28:00 -
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Originally by: Arimai
Originally by: Tinasterus I agree I wasnt arround when they were given out. I purchased some because they were just bloody fun to use. If they were melted because of people getting lured into being concorddokken'd then I fear EVE is heading down a road I may not want to travel down. I have lost a few billion in ships to lag and my own stupidity, not once did I feel the need to complain or file petitions to replace my ships. I demand CCP reconstitute my Snowballs.
Let's just remove the ability to lock a non-wartarget in highsec all together, removes the ability for people to get themselves concordokkened, yaaay...
stop whining. if they were removed because of people getting killed by concord, why wouldn't ccp have removed they a year ago, when people started to do that? answer: because thats not why they removed them. there are plenty of tools left ingame for you to grief noobs in empire. get. over. it. -- Love is the Law, Love under Will |
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