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Al Franken
The Liberal Media
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Posted - 2007.01.31 17:13:00 -
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Background: a few months back goonfleet's forum was hacked into and its content stolen. This was during the previous height of LV's war with Goonfleet. Although LV almost certainly had spies who were able to access the general members part of the forum, they likely did not have access to the director's only forum.
From an earlier eve-o post by the Mittani, Goonfleet's day to day head:
note: Mr. Zboralski = AnthonyZ = kugustmen. Lallante = SNRA director
Quote:
A pity that you've decided to take an open attempt to talk as another chance to spew your :eveo: drivel, since I'm the only one in this game who's suffered a similar level of hacking at Mr. Zboralski's hands... or perhaps I should pin the blame on Lallante for that, since Lall hired him.
And there you have it.
It's widely known that AnthonyZ/Kugustmen will use shady techniques in order to gain intelligence. However it was previously assumed that he could maintain a level of anonymity for his customers. And yet, in one of his most high profile and important cases; aiding a top 4 alliance in its war with a sworn enemy, it looks like AnthonyZ was not able to protect Lallante, SNRA, and LV's involvement.
Now the real question is whether the Mittani got his information through his own spy network, or if he managed to pay off Kugutsmen for the info.
Either way, buyer beware!
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DiuxDium
Casting Shadows
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Posted - 2007.01.31 17:18:00 -
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--------------- PvP in EvE is not consentual.
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Chowdown
Gallente Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.01.31 17:20:00 -
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Tin foil hat?
http://www.eve-battlestars.net/chow.html
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The Mittani
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.01.31 17:26:00 -
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No, I'm not telling you how I know the things I know. That's not how this game is played.
But I will say that anyone who pays Mr. Zboralski is an idiot, and is largely responsible for the current rampage that we're suffering from. Thanks for encouraging him, Lallante! Good move, sound, very wise.
Too bad having Remedial's account hacked didn't save your little Coalition.
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.01.31 17:27:00 -
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It appears that The Liberal Media are spreading their conspiracy theories again.
du-dum, ching!
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Bazman
Caldari Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.01.31 17:29:00 -
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I just bought a large roll of tinfoil for this thread
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Anonymous Coward
Gallente Panopticon Citadel
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Posted - 2007.01.31 17:30:00 -
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Actually, on his forums Kugutsumen mentions that Lallante stiffed him by a huge amount, so why not reveal his identity?
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Smoking Mirror
Secret Interests Inc.
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Posted - 2007.01.31 17:35:00 -
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Edited by: Smoking Mirror on 31/01/2007 17:35:13
Originally by: The Mittani No, I'm not telling you how I know the things I know. That's not how this game is played.
But I will say that anyone who pays *snip* is an idiot, and is largely responsible for the current rampage that we're suffering from. Thanks for encouraging him, Lallante! Good move, sound, very wise.
Too bad having Remedial's account hacked didn't save your little Coalition.
Karma is a *****.
The Mittani wormed his way into ISS with his Jacob Majestic alt and then betrayed ISS. I suppose that might be considered within the confines of the game, though exploiting board and TS access is pretty lame.
But then "Jacob Majestic" followed that up with attacks of ****ographic spam on the ISS forum server. Nice set of people there. It's hilariously funny to see Goonfleet whining about this stuff now. Goonfleet in general and The Mittani in particular pride themselves on the exploitation of out of game resources for advantage. Hypocrite much?
What goes around comes around I guess. Sometimes, in spades.
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Traxio Nacho
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.01.31 17:36:00 -
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Originally by: The Mittani No, I'm not telling you how I know the things I know. That's not how this game is played.
But I will say that anyone who pays Mr. Zboralski is an idiot, and is largely responsible for the current rampage that we're suffering from. Thanks for encouraging him, Lallante! Good move, sound, very wise.
Too bad having Remedial's account hacked didn't save your little Coalition.
I think anyone who pays Kugustmen to get info for them should be banned from Eve too as they are knowingly paying someone to use out of game and iilegal methods.
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Marcus TheMartin
Gallente Tuxedo.
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Posted - 2007.01.31 17:38:00 -
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Originally by: Traxio Nacho
Originally by: The Mittani No, I'm not telling you how I know the things I know. That's not how this game is played.
But I will say that anyone who pays Mr. Zboralski is an idiot, and is largely responsible for the current rampage that we're suffering from. Thanks for encouraging him, Lallante! Good move, sound, very wise.
Too bad having Remedial's account hacked didn't save your little Coalition.
I think anyone who pays Kugustmen to get info for them should be banned from Eve too as they are knowingly paying someone to use out of game and iilegal methods.
Then every one should be banned for paying a sig designer because artistic talent is an out of game skill and we know that no one pays for photoshop anymore 
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The Mittani
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.01.31 17:39:00 -
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Edited by: The Mittani on 31/01/2007 17:36:31
Quote: Karma is a *****.
The Mittani wormed his way into ISS with his Jacob Majestic alt and then betrayed ISS. I suppose that might be considered within the confines of the game, though exploiting board and TS access is pretty lame.
But then "Jacob Majestic" followed that up with attacks of ****ographic spam on the ISS forum server. Nice set of people there. It's hilariously funny to see Goonfleet whining about this stuff now. Goonfleet in general and The Mittani in particular pride themselves on the exploitation of out of game resources for advantage. Hypocrite much?
What goes around comes around I guess. Sometimes, in spades.
I had your little system offlined and your hangars raped and your alliance annihilated /after/ we were hacked by AnthonyZ, not before.
Perhaps this is reverse karma? Heh.
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Chowdown
Gallente Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.01.31 17:42:00 -
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Originally by: The Mittani I had your little system offlined and your hangars raped and your alliance annihilated /after/ we were hacked by AnthonyZ, not before.
Little coalitions, little systems, is someone trying to appear big?
http://www.eve-battlestars.net/chow.html
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Traxio Nacho
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.01.31 17:43:00 -
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Originally by: Marcus TheMartin
Originally by: Traxio Nacho
Originally by: The Mittani No, I'm not telling you how I know the things I know. That's not how this game is played.
But I will say that anyone who pays Mr. Zboralski is an idiot, and is largely responsible for the current rampage that we're suffering from. Thanks for encouraging him, Lallante! Good move, sound, very wise.
Too bad having Remedial's account hacked didn't save your little Coalition.
I think anyone who pays Kugustmen to get info for them should be banned from Eve too as they are knowingly paying someone to use out of game and iilegal methods.
Then every one should be banned for paying a sig designer because artistic talent is an out of game skill and we know that no one pays for photoshop anymore 
Slight difference in paying someone to make a sig for you and paying someone to iilegally hack peoples forums 
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Smoking Mirror
Secret Interests Inc.
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Posted - 2007.01.31 17:44:00 -
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Originally by: The Mittani Edited by: The Mittani on 31/01/2007 17:36:31
Quote: Karma is a *****.
The Mittani wormed his way into ISS with his Jacob Majestic alt and then betrayed ISS. I suppose that might be considered within the confines of the game, though exploiting board and TS access is pretty lame.
But then "Jacob Majestic" followed that up with attacks of ****ographic spam on the ISS forum server. Nice set of people there. It's hilariously funny to see Goonfleet whining about this stuff now. Goonfleet in general and The Mittani in particular pride themselves on the exploitation of out of game resources for advantage. Hypocrite much?
What goes around comes around I guess. Sometimes, in spades.
I had your little system offlined and your hangars raped and your alliance annihilated /after/ we were hacked by AnthonyZ, not before.
Perhaps this is reverse karma? Heh.
I missed where ISS had anything at all to do with AnthonyZ.
So, no karma at all -- just Goonfleet being jackass hypocrites, and then getting a taste of their own medicine. Enjoying it?
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Al Franken
The Liberal Media
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Posted - 2007.01.31 17:46:00 -
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I see that the reactionary forces of the Tenerifsis military-industrial complex and the Scalding Pass junta are trying to derail this thread. Obviously a right wing attempt to slander my journalistic efforts in exposing Kugustman as an inept war profiteer.
But, the point still stands; whether lallante hired kugustmen or not, kugustmen still exposed him as one of his clients on his own public message board. On top of that we have the head of one of the largest in-game spying agencies saying that he has already penetrated, through some undisclosed method, kugustmen's organization.
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Sinlare
Gallente Sinlare Auditorium
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Posted - 2007.01.31 17:47:00 -
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Originally by: Smoking Mirror
Originally by: The Mittani Edited by: The Mittani on 31/01/2007 17:36:31
Quote: Karma is a *****.
The Mittani wormed his way into ISS with his Jacob Majestic alt and then betrayed ISS. I suppose that might be considered within the confines of the game, though exploiting board and TS access is pretty lame.
But then "Jacob Majestic" followed that up with attacks of ****ographic spam on the ISS forum server. Nice set of people there. It's hilariously funny to see Goonfleet whining about this stuff now. Goonfleet in general and The Mittani in particular pride themselves on the exploitation of out of game resources for advantage. Hypocrite much?
What goes around comes around I guess. Sometimes, in spades.
I had your little system offlined and your hangars raped and your alliance annihilated /after/ we were hacked by AnthonyZ, not before.
Perhaps this is reverse karma? Heh.
I missed where ISS had anything at all to do with AnthonyZ.
So, no karma at all -- just Goonfleet being jackass hypocrites, and then getting a taste of their own medicine. Enjoying it?
I doubt mittani 'hacked' as you say it, unlike Anthony is doing. Mittani can probably answer that. |

Streber
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2007.01.31 17:48:00 -
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Mittani = AnthonyZ
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Marcus TheMartin
Gallente Tuxedo.
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Posted - 2007.01.31 17:49:00 -
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Originally by: Traxio Nacho
Originally by: Marcus TheMartin
Originally by: Traxio Nacho
Originally by: The Mittani No, I'm not telling you how I know the things I know. That's not how this game is played.
But I will say that anyone who pays Mr. Zboralski is an idiot, and is largely responsible for the current rampage that we're suffering from. Thanks for encouraging him, Lallante! Good move, sound, very wise.
Too bad having Remedial's account hacked didn't save your little Coalition.
I think anyone who pays Kugustmen to get info for them should be banned from Eve too as they are knowingly paying someone to use out of game and iilegal methods.
Then every one should be banned for paying a sig designer because artistic talent is an out of game skill and we know that no one pays for photoshop anymore 
Slight difference in paying someone to make a sig for you and paying someone to iilegally hack peoples forums 
But they are both done under illicit means WINK WINK WINK WINK WINK
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Ather Ialeas
Amarr Karjala Inc. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.01.31 17:49:00 -
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Originally by: Traxio Nacho I think anyone who pays Kugustmen to get info for them should be banned from Eve too as they are knowingly paying someone to use out of game and iilegal methods.
phpBB practically gives out its db to anyone who asks for it so no hacking needed there to be honest, just shows how much free software can suck. Morality is of course another issue but hey, this is EVE. Lets metagame so hard that we don't even have to login anymore to enjoy the game! --- Mandatory disclaimer: These are my thoughts, not my corps/alliances. ---
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prsr
Gallente JuBa Corp
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Posted - 2007.01.31 17:50:00 -
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All this spying BS gets on my nerves, FFS, just leave your alts, login your mains and start shooting each other in the face will you. -- .sig apathy ftw |

The Mittani
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.01.31 17:51:00 -
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Originally by: Chowdown
Little coalitions, little systems, is someone trying to appear big?
Hey, going by the, ehm, 'girl' in your sig, I've got a lot to work up towards. ;p
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0August0
Gallente Gooch Unlimited
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Posted - 2007.01.31 17:51:00 -
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Originally by: The Mittani I had your little system offlined and your hangars raped and your alliance annihilated /after/ we were hacked by AnthonyZ, not before.
Perhaps this is reverse karma? Heh.
ISS annililated? That's news to me. Is this like the Goons being annililated by BoB? . . . Regards, August |
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Eldo Davip
Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department

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Posted - 2007.01.31 17:54:00 -
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Please don't post RL information including names ___
EvE +NLINE - T+TALHELLDEATH SUPPORTER
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Serilla
The Syndicate Inc INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.01.31 17:55:00 -
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Originally by: Bazman I just bought a large roll of tinfoil for this thread
Non-Stick and Heavy Duty ready and waiting __________________ Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Eldo Davip ([email protected]) |

ph33rf4ct0ry
Minmatar Hookers From Mars
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Posted - 2007.01.31 17:57:00 -
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Originally by: The Mittani
Originally by: Chowdown
Little coalitions, little systems, is someone trying to appear big?
Hey, going by the, ehm, 'girl' in your sig, I've got a lot to work up towards. ;p
I always thought that was Foyle
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Marcus TheMartin
Gallente Tuxedo.
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Posted - 2007.01.31 17:58:00 -
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Originally by: Serilla
Originally by: Bazman I just bought a large roll of tinfoil for this thread
Non-Stick and Heavy Duty ready and waiting
Tinfoil hats don't work I recommend a lead lined mask since it also blocks x-rays
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Gradinger
Todmacher
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Posted - 2007.01.31 17:59:00 -
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sry eldo, i may been too harsh :) but still i think the most disgusting thing in this thread is the guy who posts real names of whomever. and right behind him all the ones who justify metagaming :/
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Gradinger
Todmacher
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Posted - 2007.01.31 18:04:00 -
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Originally by: Al Franken
Originally by: Gradinger sry eldo, i may been too harsh :) but still i think the most disgusting thing in this thread is the guy who posts real names of whomever. and right behind him all the ones who justify metagaming :/
I wasn't posting his real name. Well, ok, apparently it is short for his real name. However that was the username he registered with the Something Awful forums, so to be blunt he abandoned any claims to privacy with regards to it.
rgr.. i hoped its something like that.. fair enough then
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Wonder Mike
The Sugarhill Gang
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Posted - 2007.01.31 18:54:00 -
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well i think the fact that one of the world most known network security profile useing hacking in order to get isk in eve is kinda over the edge..
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Xscaped Pensioner
Trident Industries
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Posted - 2007.01.31 19:29:00 -
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most interesting did a search for Kugutsumen through P & P and could not find it, will be a bit hard sending isk to that char now 
Good riddance to bad trash, seriously this guy has crossed the boundary and totaly contravenes the spirit by which most of us play this game.
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