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          Torquemanda Corteaz 
          Gallente Infinite Improbability Inc Dusk and Dawn
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.02.03 18:39:00 -
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          sounds like everyone is having fun, if anything the numbers in tribute are going to be on the increase as both sides hear about the kickass fights and think "i want in on that"... I forsee it only getting better and better. 
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          Cmdr Sp0ck 
          Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.02.04 00:14:00 -
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            Originally by: Torquemanda Corteaz sounds like everyone is having fun, if anything the numbers in tribute are going to be on the increase as both sides hear about the kickass fights and think "i want in on that"... I forsee it only getting better and better. 
 
 
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          Torquemanda Corteaz 
          Gallente Infinite Improbability Inc Dusk and Dawn
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.02.04 00:31:00 -
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            Originally by: Cmdr Sp0ck
   Originally by: Torquemanda Corteaz sounds like everyone is having fun, if anything the numbers in tribute are going to be on the increase as both sides hear about the kickass fights and think "i want in on that"... I forsee it only getting better and better. 
 
 
  Actually, i forsee it getting laggier and laggier  
 
 
  then let's hope for more battles rather than larger ones i guess  
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          Flinx Evenstar 
          Minmatar Momentum. Dusk and Dawn
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.02.04 06:23:00 -
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          Edited by: Flinx Evenstar on 04/02/2007 06:20:36
   Originally by: fire 59 To the guy who said he was amazed that bob has been respectful etc, we have always said we will give respect to those who deserve it, and MM and iron definately deserve it for bringing it in this massive and sexy battle (emote purr's )
 
 
 
  That may have been me   Not aimed at you in particular fire 59 (as you seem pretty sane   ), but you must realise that there are some amongst you that do nothing but tarnish your reputation by resorting to cheap smack.
  Off topic, but I'm sure you would have more love and cookies if you raised your recruiting age above 12   what other excuse is there for the inane comments from some of your egocentric "forum warriors".
  On Topic, Koth Fluff, you the man, now go kick some more ass, and Blind Archangel, I was in combat when u convoed   
  To 4s and Morsus Mihi...we salute you   Tears will stream down your face, when you lose something you can not replace
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          Father Weebles 
          North Face Force
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.02.04 06:40:00 -
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            Originally by: searchi Edited by: searchi on 03/02/2007 06:15:44 well mm. point is that your next fleet will be smaller and then smaller again. which ultimately means u will loose. fun is all nice but giving presents to the enemy makes them stronger and you weaker. you can say good fight all you want. battles with a killratio of 1:10 will bring even your morale down in the long run.
  as a bob hater person i wouldnt really like that.
  arjun
 
 
  It's better to go out with a bang then to go out with a whimper. "Welcome to EVE, where inflation is out of control."
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          Seleene 
          Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.02.04 10:31:00 -
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          E-OGL4 Battle Summary
  As near as I've been able to put together this is what happened. MM and friends had a gang of at least 90, at least 35-40 of which were Battleships. We had a medium sized gang in Empire that consisted mainly of HACs and a few BS. The MM gang surged into Taisy and we hauled ass back to base to get into heavier ships. After a few jumps in, the MM gang turned around and headed back out to 0.0.
  We'd been in contact with BoB and learned that DICE had a gang with twenty fleet-fitted BS in it that were coming up behind. We'd switched out to BS as much as we could and were fielding about 25 now. We figured that between BoB and MC, we now had roughly equal BS numbers but MMs support was still more. Talk of sandwiching them began.
  The BoB fleet was formed up on the E-O gate in 15W waiting for MM to jump in. Our covert ops reported that the enemy fleet had warped to a POS and we were wondering if we were going to get a fight. Then, as our fleet jumped into M-O, the entire enemy force landed on the M-O gate in E-O. Our FC decided to force the issue and jumped the MC fleet into the fire.
  Sixty seconds into the fight, MC dropped a cyno field and we jumped in a Nyx, two Aeons and four carriers. The cyno ship got vaporized so all of the cap ships popped out at random points in the system and had to warp back into the gate.
  The MC and MM BS fleets were just shredding each other. A BS popped on either side about once every 20-30 seconds from what I could see. Our support seemed to be doing well though, as everything that got near our BS popped pretty fast. The problem was that MM had more BS to lose and we were getting mauled. After another minute, BoB warped in and started to hit MM from another direction. But it wasn't over yet.
  A cyno field popped twenty km away from my Nyx and several flashes of light announced the arrival of ten enemy capital ships. There appeared to be an even split of five dreads and five carriers. Not good. We kept our remaining BS on the task of assisting BoB with thinning out the still large MM fleet and I had our carriers focus on the enemy dreads.
  The slugfest went on and somewhere in the middle of all of this an IRON gang of support showed up as well. I didn't realize it at the time. All I knew was that after half an hour of shooting there were still too damn many enemy ships out there.
  Realizing that shooting at Alynthir's Aeon was useless, the enemy cap ships finally turned their attention to Stradivarious' Nidhoggur. The ship died with nearly 60% cap, almost ready to jump out. The lag kept one of our motherships from getting a pair of Capital Remote reps on him, or else he might have lived.
  Finally, the enemy fleet's numbers began to thin out and we focused on killing off as many enemy capital ships as we could. We finished the fight with 1 enemy Thanatos and 3 enemy Moros down.
  According to damage logs, the battle lasted one hour and six minutes.  
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  Vid - 'Images of War' | 
      
      
      
          
          Seleene 
          Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.02.04 10:32:00 -
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          Pics or STFU!  
  MC BS Fleet moving out.
  Jumping into the madness.
  Sorta dead and watching the fight.
  Over half an hour in and still way too many bad guys!
  Enemy capital ships.
  Total cap ships (minus one MC carrier that jumped out in structure).
  Up close Pew-Pew
  Going after the Dreads.
  The aftermath.
  Salvage 4TW!
  War can be pretty sometimes...
  Bad things happened here!
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          Wladomir Jed 
          Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.02.04 11:06:00 -
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          \o/ Best fights for a long long time. Hope to see alot more of this!
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          Rod Blaine 
          Evolution Band of Brothers
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.02.04 11:06:00 -
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          Heh, i was looking at the BoB KB yesterday and noticed the kill tally in that system from the day before.
  I looked at the losses posted for the same time and place and saw only one BS loss or something and thought, wtf, 30+ bs kills, 4 capitals, ONE bs lost ?
 
  Then ofc I heard MC was involved and took most of the enemy fire.
  Sounds like an epic one, pity that we're not playing along up there.
 
  Old blog  Originally by: Vriezuh Naz: John is a realist
 
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          fire 59 
          Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.02.04 11:07:00 -
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          Awesome write up. Definately one of the most intense and fun battle's i have personally been in 
 
 
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          Yalson 
          Caldari Dark Centuri Inc. Firmus Ixion
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.02.04 11:10:00 -
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          Very difficult to get an overview of those battles with killboards being non-public, kills/losses being distributed among several corporations and alliances -- not to mention the fact they tell very little off the atmosphere. Thanks for the writeup, much appreciated.
 
 
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          NereSky 
          Gallente Rage of Angels Morsus Mihi
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.02.04 11:22:00 -
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          Nice write up Seleene as usual  
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          Pallidum Treponema 
          KIA Corp KIA Alliance
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.02.04 12:27:00 -
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          Excellent writeup. My hat's off to both MC and MM.
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          Bozl1n 
          Caldari Shiva Morsus Mihi
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.02.04 12:30:00 -
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          Sounds like i missed some fun 
 
  Do me a favour tho seleene - next time bring Coug to the dance
 
 
   
 
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          Mynas Atoch 
          Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.02.04 13:33:00 -
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          Edited by: Mynas Atoch on 04/02/2007 13:30:11
   Originally by: Yalson Very difficult to get an overview of those battles with killboards being non-public, kills/losses being distributed among several corporations and alliances -- not to mention the fact they tell very little off the atmosphere. Thanks for the writeup, much appreciated.
 
  The only killboard involved that is 'non-public' is ours; the rest of the major participants, D2, IRON, RAZOR, Morsus Mihi, Kia, TRI, 0utbreak and BoB all have public killboards. Ours will be back on line as soon as it is ready to cope with the demands you guys put on it (I hope!), which this contract combined with the new killboard software rather exceeded our expectations   
  From our perspective, the picture the rest are painting is relatively accurate, as these things go. 
 
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          Waagaa Ktlehr 
          Amarr Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.02.04 13:39:00 -
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          From our KB it shows that we lost around 20 BS, 1 Carrier and some support.
  DICE lost one or two BS and some support.
  The north lost 36 BS, 3 Dreads (Moros) and a Carrier and a ton of support.
  MC/DICE held the field and could loot the billions in ISK of mods and salvage. -
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          Stradivarious 
          Minmatar Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.02.04 13:40:00 -
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          Edited by: Stradivarious on 04/02/2007 13:44:16
   Originally by: Bozl1n Sounds like i missed some fun 
 
  Do me a favour tho seleene - next time bring Coug to the dance
   
 
 
  Cougie's got RL work issues atm not allowing him to play :( He still forum *****s a bit so he may say hi :)
  Edit: /emote places the evil eye on the myrmidon pilot that warp scrambled me in that fight, I was less then 2-3 seconds away from warping when you did that :P Excellant fight however, I don't mind losing a carrier in an epic battle like that :) Not that I plan on doing that every day mind you  
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          Don ZOLA 
          Caldari TunDraGon
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.02.04 16:20:00 -
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          nice to see people enjoying fighting, but imho only concern i have (everyone knows i love mm :P) is why dont d2 come with motherships to help (afaik they have some). with fights nowadays which involve such monsters numbers dont mean that much as in normal bs and smaller capital ships fights.
   ie no matter how much mm and iron enjoy fights atm they might ask themselves why d2 dont help with motherships. cuz such things means A LOT in fights, excellent tankers, almost imposible to kill, with good dmg and support abilities. so if north keep fighting witout their support and bob brings theirs to assist mc, i think outcomes of the battles will be mostly known even before of fights. 
  i know that wont affect their morale cuz simply they r like that, if they r up to fight they will even knowingly suicide just to get some fun but it might make them ask themselves questions about their allies. if my assumption that d2 doesnt have motherships (which i doubt tbh) then i apologize to them but if they do they might ask themselves if their friends expect some help. thou i guess maybe d2 doesnt wanna get in on larger scale cuz it would mean much bigger blobs and lag and they still wouldnt like to send just motherships. 
  imho north should workout some fleet compositions with each allie bringing certain number of ships so fleets get whats needed and pilots from all allies get some fun and ofc not overblob and not get fight at all. 
  knowing all sides involved r always in for fight even outnumbered, and that all r after fights and fun i think north should just organise fleet compositions bit more so they get bigger chance of winning fights (its very hard to win a fight and hold the battlefield when enemy has 3 ms fielded) and ofc (i think im speaking for whole eve atm) give us a chance of seeing first mothership in eve go boom (with fraps ofc). 
  i really hope it wont be norhts one (hey im allowed to cheer for one side here right ? :P) 
  keep the good and smackfree fights on and hf guys and girls :)
 
 
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          Torquemanda Corteaz 
          Gallente Infinite Improbability Inc Dusk and Dawn
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.02.04 16:51:00 -
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          the reason (I PERSONALLY THINK) that we haven't commited our capitals is because we have not been asked to, every night we have several roaming gangs running around in the northern regions and the southern regions. D2/MM/IRON all keep in close contact and if MM wanted any help all they would have to do is ask and we would come running. 
  However, last week when we though it was on we swarmed two staging areas, and it got very boring because noone would fight and who would blame them why fight when you're heavily outnumbered?
  As for the capitals question, why commit motherships to go after other motherships making hit and runs? the ASCN titan was apparently popped on a technicality; titans and motherships are notoriously difficult to kill, and even harder to keep bloody still long enough to kill them.
  Anyway the absence of d2 capital ships can be explained by the simple answer of MM don't want them  
 
  at least thats MY take on it anyway (like walking across a bloody minefield posting here isnt it?)
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          KOTH Fluf 
          Caldari Shiva Morsus Mihi
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.02.04 17:40:00 -
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          Don D2 would come in a minute if asked as would all the allies in the north. As Torq said we are in constant contact with each other and have had to resort to roaming gangs as the first week Dice/MC moved up here we were outblobbing everything and weren't getting any fights. Im sure that will change as the rest of BOB and company move up.
   What alot of people in Eve fail to understand is all 4 of the major alliances up here, D2/MM/RZR/IRON can defend themselves and have competent FC's and fleet compositions. D2 has the better cap fleet, but all of us can fight. MM just happens to be at the front door and is getting a few more of them atm. But if I needed my allies help, I could ask they would be there in minutes. Thats what "friends" are for.
   Good write-up Seleene. Maybe Ill do the next one when MM wins!  
   Oh, and Strad, blame Travling for your loss, I think he was the one that called you primary after Dol got out with 85% structure on his carrier!   Fluf CEO Shiva Morsus Mihi
 
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          Fred0 
          Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.02.04 18:05:00 -
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            Originally by: Don ZOLA sensible stuff for an outsider...
 
 
  RZR could die besides RAWR in D7-ZAC, we will put ourselves on the line to the final man. However Don, what you don't realise is that RAWR don't want us there yet and IRON/RZR/D2 and RAWR talk daily about the strategy and what to do.
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          Will Fireblade 
          Maza Nostra RAZOR Alliance
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.02.04 18:23:00 -
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          Hey don zola i know TDG philosophy of eve is a lot different than these alliances "crap" but maybe if you feel that way you should get involved.    
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          Cmdr Sp0ck 
          Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.02.04 18:39:00 -
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            Originally by: Will Fireblade Hey don zola i know TDG philosophy of eve is a lot different than these alliances "crap" but maybe if you feel that way you should get involved.    
 
 
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          Christopher Multsanti 
          Shihan.
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.02.04 18:44:00 -
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            Originally by: Cmdr Sp0ck
   Originally by: Will Fireblade Hey don zola i know TDG philosophy of eve is a lot different than these alliances "crap" but maybe if you feel that way you should get involved.    
 
 
  Hi Will  
 
 
 
  You joined Bob hahahahaha.......oh wait.  
 
  It's great being Amarr that flys Minmintar aint it?
 
 
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          Will Fireblade 
          Maza Nostra RAZOR Alliance
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.02.04 19:10:00 -
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          I petition Chris mofosanti cus that is a alt corp my friend!!
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          Tholarim 
          Amarr Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.02.05 07:56:00 -
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            Originally by: Christopher Multsanti
   Originally by: Cmdr Sp0ck
   Originally by: Will Fireblade Hey don zola i know TDG philosophy of eve is a lot different than these alliances "crap" but maybe if you feel that way you should get involved.    
 
 
  Hi Will  
 
 
 
  You joined Bob hahahahaha.......oh wait.  
 
 
  not BOB.
  BOB-LITE! There's a difference you know. We smack more, suck at pvp and wear stabs. 
  i.e. We're burn eden's mains, not MC's.
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          Mynas Atoch 
          Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.02.05 09:06:00 -
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            Originally by: Tholarim not BOB.
  BOB-LITE! There's a difference you know. We smack more, suck at pvp and wear stabs. 
  i.e. We're burn eden's mains, not MC's.
 
 
  I call bull****! EVERYone knows Burn Eden's mains are in ISS carebear corps. Which is why some people are going WTF? over BE joining Goon attacking Omist...
  Myn
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          Don ZOLA 
          Caldari TunDraGon
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.02.05 09:22:00 -
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            Originally by: Will Fireblade Hey don zola i know TDG philosophy of eve is a lot different than these alliances "crap" but maybe if you feel that way you should get involved.    
 
 
  hey mate hope u r having fun there :), believe me i would like to get involved but im away from home till middle of march and i wont be able to play :/
  and imho u dont wait friends to ask for help u offer them help and then wait for response. but still im glad its not like it looked like to me. guess ull drop in when they need u then :)
  hf all anyways <3 will
 
 
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          Evelina Yorg 
           
          
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        Posted - 2007.02.05 11:38:00 -
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            Originally by: Fred0
   Originally by: Don ZOLA sensible stuff for an outsider...
 
 
  ... or maybe a bit too well informed for outsider ? 
 
   Originally by: Will Fireblade Hey don zola i know TDG philosophy of eve is a lot different than these alliances "crap" but maybe if you feel that way you should get involved.    
 
 
  ... perhaps they are more involved than RZR is? There are some very very deep bonds between 4s & certain TDG members, like inabilty to post with 4s char due to ISD pwning their posts  
 
 
 
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          jernej 
          Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.02.05 11:51:00 -
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            Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr From our KB it shows that we lost around 20 BS, 1 Carrier and some support.
  DICE lost one or two BS and some support.
  The north lost 36 BS, 3 Dreads (Moros) and a Carrier and a ton of support.
  MC/DICE held the field and could loot the billions in ISK of mods and salvage.
 
 
  There are 46 BS kills posted on the bob killboard, and there are probably some more bs kills where only MC participated.
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