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TomB
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Posted - 2003.12.10 19:40:00 -
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They are for you to test out if you like, they have not been tuned correctly but the main time involved goes in setting them up so the tuning part will take very short, expect them to change alot. Most pirates that were in-game before (that you can now find on Tranquility) also got some tuning, examples:
* Less Defender Chance
* Less Scramble Strenght
* Less Targeting Speed
* Some will be doing less damage
* Pirates MWD!!! 
* Some battleship pirates use too long stasis (ZPLOIT!)
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Popov
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Posted - 2003.12.10 19:45:00 -
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Edited by: Popov on 10/12/2003 19:51:18
Cheers Tomb, your fast response is much appreciated 
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Tansien
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Posted - 2003.12.10 19:45:00 -
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\o/
Great, will they drop Large rare stuff aswell?
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Jarjar
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Posted - 2003.12.10 19:48:00 -
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Yay, I'm the first one to get killed by battleship NPCs!
I got ganked by 7 guristas ;(
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Bizarre
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Posted - 2003.12.10 19:49:00 -
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Yay, I'm the first one to get killed by battleship NPCs!
I got ganked by 7 guristas ;(
and podded:D
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Jarjar
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Posted - 2003.12.10 20:39:00 -
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Edited by: Jarjar on 10/12/2003 20:44:30
Hmm, you might want to tweak the missile spamming of guristas... Killed a fully tanked megathron in about 1 minute. The Moas seemed to fire 1 missile (thermal) about every 1-1.5 seconds.
Of course, they're supposed to be hard, but if they're supposed to be THIS hard. 5 battleships will have a lot of trouble surviving when hunting in a team.
Edit: Added a ".".
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Valeria
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Posted - 2003.12.10 21:01:00 -
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Edited by: Valeria on 10/12/2003 21:32:19
We've been sitting in a belt for a while now, one Apoc, one Raven. It doesn't seem like Blood Raider Battleships use cruise missiles though... they're very easy compared to the Guristas who pwned us quite easily with their missile spam. Maybe tone down the Guristas a bit?
Also, am I correct in observing that NPCs now use all their turrets? The Bships atleast cycle between all their turret hardpoints, giving them a really fast rate of fire. Very good.
Edit: While we're at it, it seems you are, on some faction ships, using the mip-maps of the standard version of the skin, as if you opened up the DDS file, slapped on for example the blood overlay (for Blood Raiders) and saved the DDS without generating new mipmaps... look into it, it looks pretty weird when it turns into a normal Apocalypse when you zoom out a bit.
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Nicholas Marshal
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Posted - 2003.12.10 23:09:00 -
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We want these pirate Battleships to be hard. They should REQUIRE groups of player ships to tackle them.
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Steini OFSI
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Posted - 2003.12.10 23:10:00 -
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please make em that hard that you can't be farming them single handedly.
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SS Vegito
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Posted - 2003.12.10 23:23:00 -
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Only tried guristas.But was quite easy.Although it wouldnt be profitable since I used alot of missiles.
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Mr nStuff
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Posted - 2003.12.11 00:30:00 -
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Hmm.. Wonder if there will be a middle ground.. Places where you can still hunt 50k pirates alone without the worry groups of battleships will pop up. While your..alone. Quote:
Jarjar the Caldari from Celestial Apocalypse said:
Yay, I'm the first one to get killed by battleship NPCs!
I got ganked by 7 guristas ;(
Hmmm.. So battleship NPC's spawn in groups of 7...battleships..
Seven battleships nStuff
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Buddrow
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Posted - 2003.12.11 00:46:00 -
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are you kidding me, thos damn missle boats fire missles at 1 maby under 1 sec. dude, go test those sons of *****s and then tell me there not hard.
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Hakera
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Posted - 2003.12.11 00:48:00 -
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ive not had chance to test them, will they drop large named items?
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.12.11 01:05:00 -
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"Edit: While we're at it, it seems you are, on some faction ships, using the mip-maps of the standard version of the skin, as if you opened up the DDS file, slapped on for example the blood overlay (for Blood Raiders) and saved the DDS without generating new mipmaps... look into it, it looks pretty weird when it turns into a normal Apocalypse when you zoom out a bit."
Aye, the pirate ship skin is only visible when using "look at" command and bringing camera really close... pulling it back causes the texture to switch to the 'usual' Apocalypse.
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cess
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Posted - 2003.12.11 01:15:00 -
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with the mwd nerf...god help us if we lag warp into the middle of them
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Mr nStuff
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Posted - 2003.12.11 01:29:00 -
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yeah.. should be able to "Warp to 100km" for this type of danger. |
Lola
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Posted - 2003.12.11 01:37:00 -
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What about the bounty? Anyone know how much they give?
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Majin Buu
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Posted - 2003.12.11 01:48:00 -
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50k still, and no they didnt drop any loot  
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Cassiopia Phaedra
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Posted - 2003.12.11 02:27:00 -
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By reading the original post, you would know that the bounties and the loot drops aren't set yet.
Also, they have stated that loot drops will not be better than the Tech2 items.
So decipher that how you may.
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MSDborris
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Posted - 2003.12.11 05:26:00 -
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i carnt test on choas due to computer limitations ( and lazy'ness ) can someone test the serp's and report back plz on Tq the serp frigs are easy'r than guristis frigs can u see if thats the case with BS ?
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Arthur Guinness
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Posted - 2003.12.11 07:10:00 -
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Quote:
By reading the original post, you would know that the bounties and the loot drops aren't set yet.
Also, they have stated that loot drops will not be better than the Tech2 items.
So decipher that how you may.
Why should someone bother trying to fit a Tacyon Beam II on his apoc (will need more grid/cpu than Tacyon Beam I) when he can also use named Tacyon Beams?
It will be some time till we get Tech2 versions of L turrets, so i am looking forward to named L lasers from the sansha's :D
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Lola
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Posted - 2003.12.11 07:35:00 -
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Quote:
By reading the original post, you would know that the bounties and the loot drops aren't set yet.
Also, they have stated that loot drops will not be better than the Tech2 items.
So decipher that how you may.
I don't really care that they aren't set but how much it will be once it's set. I tried them today and they are pretty tough. The reward needs to be equal to the risk or people will just keep chaining 30k rats.
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Drutort
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Posted - 2003.12.11 07:45:00 -
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my bet that cruiser NPC's will still be 100% more profitable then BS's which they might have a chance to drop a nice item/bp maybe? but who cares its about isk/hour etc... and cruisers will still be best solo farming thing out there... ppl might do BS's for fun but once ppl find out i dont think that many ppl will be trying to farm them even in big groups which i dont know how they will do it... since your pretty much out matched and if you get attacked by few BS pirates im sure you would be dead pretty fast in yoru BS
hmm i wonder what the reward is for the risk of losing 50m-100mill? i dont think the reward will come anything close to that...
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Fausto
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Posted - 2003.12.11 08:31:00 -
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So move away to 60km and killemallwithyourlasers tactics is not doable any more? Someone tried?
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Blueblooded
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Posted - 2003.12.11 09:27:00 -
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Great challange!
*waiting for the BS pirate invasion on TQ*
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Phoibos
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Posted - 2003.12.11 09:35:00 -
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Loot:
Please, please don't let them drop loot the same way as all the other pirates in the game. Only drop a container once in a while and then have something medium-good or good in it. Please no more 300 container clouds.
Or even better let them guard something. Just a small container or whatever. Or a station would be even better. So you have to attack in a big group kill the pirates and get the rare loot before their friends warp in.
/Phoibos
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Gan Ning
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Posted - 2003.12.11 11:16:00 -
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Edited by: Gan Ning on 11/12/2003 11:16:36
Sounds scary.
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Parity
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Posted - 2003.12.11 14:11:00 -
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i havenŠt been to all of the systems yet .. but guristas were the hardest of all .. scorpions are BAD ass , very hard to kill and survive
apoc's were crap armas were crap .. could chain blood pirate spawna alone without truble
and another thing , they always started to chainspawn very quickly .. couldnŠt even kill of a cruise spawn before more started to apear and the cruisers died in about 5-8 sec
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Ithilgore
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Posted - 2003.12.11 17:42:00 -
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I certanly hope that some of the battleships becomes useable for players, like the angel battleship. I love it! 
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Jarjar
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Posted - 2003.12.11 19:05:00 -
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Edited by: Jarjar on 11/12/2003 19:06:44
Pleeease tweak 'em some.
* Lower the missile spamming of guristas! Even with tachyons + radio you'll get out of range sooner or later... Lola's screenshot (since I'm too lazy to upload my own)
* Increase their turret damage instead, they only hit for about 75-80 damage with "good" hits (non-wrecking).
They should hurt like a player battleship, or at least close to one.
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