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Lady Ayeipsia Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 1016	Posted - 2016.03.07 20:42:44 - [31] - Quote HoleySheet1 wrote: More stupid ideas from the great CCraP. Who comes up with this nonsense? I don't know the details as I'm not playing eve as much, but it sounds like some schmercs are gonna have trouble. Absolutely tantalizing and most hilarious. All "mercs" will be consigned to hub hugging and camping pipes. Wait....nothing has changed. Rofl. Use a locator agent, get an eve mail on where a target is. Use an alt scout to go to the location, see if target is in local. Run locator again if the target isn't in local. If they are listed as in system, you know they are offline. It really isn't much different than if you knew your target but not their location. The only unknown I can think of is what happens to our current list. Will we be spammed with notifications of people who already had us watch listed or will it just be cleared With us starting anew.
HoleySheet1 Renegade Armada. 845	Posted - 2016.03.07 22:40:44 - [32] - Quote Never needed a watch list. But I expect a raging torrent of "merc" tears. Carry on. Killing your ships and pods since 2008. Killboards don't lie, Don't get mad, get better. Offering some used toilet paper for bumblefck's corpse.
Dom Arkaral Gate Is Red Complaints Department 129	Posted - 2016.03.07 23:17:14 - [33] - Quote HoleySheet1 wrote: Never needed a watch list. But I expect a raging torrent of "merc" tears. Carry on. Oh look You're being as irrelevant as Anya and Nitshe Gg Merc. Tear Gatherer. Quebecker I have no Honer (truly) Attache ta tuque avec d'la broche! Salt Harvesting Level CCCXV Save me from myself. #broadcast4reps when you're in need o7
HoleySheet1 Renegade Armada. 845	Posted - 2016.03.07 23:41:05 - [34] - Quote HoleySheet1 wrote: Oh look You're being as irrelevant as Anya and Nitshe Gg Here's a tissue. I got plenty. Killing your ships and pods since 2008. Killboards don't lie, Don't get mad, get better. Offering some used toilet paper for bumblefck's corpse.
Saeger1737 Bite the pillow Archetype. 1371	Posted - 2016.03.07 23:44:40 - [35] - Quote HoleySheet1 wrote: HoleySheet1 wrote: Never needed a watch list. But I expect a raging torrent of "merc" tears. Carry on. Oh look You're being as irrelevant as Anya and Nitshe Gg Here's a tissue. I got plenty. Can't wait to see how much you cry if they ever take sensor boosters away. What will you fit in 3 slots?
Johnny Punisher Paisti Paisti Syndicate 10	Posted - 2016.03.07 23:53:47 - [36] - Quote Just adjust your playstyle like the rest of us will. There are some benefits to removing watchlists, use those to your advantage.
JacenSolo Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 1	Posted - 2016.03.08 01:50:46 - [37] - Quote Forgive my ignorance on this matter but its been a number of years since Ive been around and i dont remember how things work. Doesnt this affect your "agents" that you use as well? I mean used to we could use a locator. Is this still in use and are they able to tell you if they are on or only their last known position
Omar Alharazaad Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 2781	Posted - 2016.03.08 01:54:53 - [38] - Quote Have some mixed feelings about this. It does kind of annoy that the tool that helps to narrow down my list of potential targets to those that are actually online is going away. On the other hand the same tool was super handy for targets to know when the scary people hunting them were online as well. I foresee a new era of neutral scout alts swarming the skies of high sec in search of reds. Well, that and more of the usual from those who predate specific areas for reasons. Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
Wanda Fayne 145	Posted - 2016.03.08 02:39:48 - [39] - Quote Omar Alharazaad wrote: Have some mixed feelings about this. It does kind of annoy that the tool that helps to narrow down my list of potential targets to those that are actually online is going away. On the other hand the same tool was super handy for targets to know when the scary people hunting them were online as well. Now if they want to see if the scary people are online, then they have to reveal that they too are online. This tickles my Lovecraft sense, 'Recognition' is mutual... sometimes it's better to never see that thing that can now see you. I foresee a new era of neutral scout alts swarming the skies of high sec in search of reds. Well, that and more of the usual from those who predate specific areas for reasons. It's like the difference between how dogs and cats hide. A dog hides it's head behind the tree, and thinks it's hidden because it can't see you. A cat hides it's body, and peeks around the tree to see if you are still looking at it.
Dymorian Deile Mercenary Forces. Complaints Department 72	Posted - 2016.03.08 12:44:07 - [40] - Quote I've got mixed thoughts on this. On one hand from a lore perspective you shouldn't know when a character is "online" but this change definitely hurts those of us who want to hunt down certain targets. The high sec merc thing in general needs a good review and making locator agents useful and immersive would be a good change. I'd like the ability to pay for some sort of corporation wide search that gives you a report on last known locations etc.

HoleySheet1 Renegade Armada. 846	Posted - 2016.03.08 12:50:37 - [41] - Quote Saeger1737 wrote: HoleySheet1 wrote: HoleySheet1 wrote: Never needed a watch list. But I expect a raging torrent of "merc" tears. Carry on. Oh look You're being as irrelevant as Anya and Nitshe Gg Here's a tissue. I got plenty. Can't wait to see how much you cry if they ever take sensor boosters away. What will you fit in 3 slots? Uh...your mom? Seriously though, many "merc" groups adopted my doctrine of high scan resolution. I get the ship, and then the pod. Anything less is failure imo. I'm just looking for some appreciation from the noobs I ascended to new heights through my tutelage. My kill record will make me impervious to irrelevance. Veiled jealousy is a constant theme I have to deal with, it entertains me. What I'm doing is something challenging. I am destroying ships of a higher class size and then I take their pod. Anya and nitsche are human failscades and couldn't pvp their way out of wet tissue paper. Truth hurts, I know. Emperor of Amarr King of Jita Scourge of the spaceplanes -Holeysheet1 Killing your ships and pods since 2008. Killboards don't lie, Don't get mad, get better. Offering some used toilet paper for bumblefck's corpse.
Ozzie Udan Caldari Provisions Caldari State 171	Posted - 2016.03.08 15:35:47 - [42] - Quote Lady Ayeipsia wrote: HoleySheet1 wrote: More stupid ideas from the great CCraP. Who comes up with this nonsense? I don't know the details as I'm not playing eve as much, but it sounds like some schmercs are gonna have trouble. Absolutely tantalizing and most hilarious. All "mercs" will be consigned to hub hugging and camping pipes. Wait....nothing has changed. Rofl. Use a locator agent, get an eve mail on where a target is. Use an alt scout to go to the location, see if target is in local. Run locator again if the target isn't in local. If they are listed as in system, you know they are offline. It really isn't much different than if you knew your target but not their location. The only unknown I can think of is what happens to our current list. Will we be spammed with notifications of people who already had us watch listed or will it just be cleared With us starting anew. You are so right , but the word lazy comes to mind , why would they Hub hug in the 1st place. I still think its a crime of some of them to be called Mercs A soft answer turneth away wrath. Once wrath is looking the other way, shoot it in the head.
Xorphix Addicted To Chaos Archetype. 177	Posted - 2016.03.08 15:54:01 - [43] - Quote HoleySheet1 wrote: Seriously though, many "merc" groups adopted my doctrine of high scan resolution. I get the ship, and then the pod. Now you're just baiting for somebody to start on you. Naughty naughty.
Lord Razpataz Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance 211	Posted - 2016.03.08 16:21:42 - [44] - Quote Ozzie Udan wrote: Lady Ayeipsia wrote: Use a locator agent, get an eve mail on where a target is. Use an alt scout to go to the location, see if target is in local. Run locator again if the target isn't in local. If they are listed as in system, you know they are offline. It really isn't much different than if you knew your target but not their location. The only unknown I can think of is what happens to our current list. Will we be spammed with notifications of people who already had us watch listed or will it just be cleared With us starting anew. You are so right , but the word lazy comes to mind , why would they Hub hug in the 1st place. I still think its a crime of some of them to be called Mercs You have to think bigger.. Lets say as a merc you get a contract against an alliance with 100-200 members spread around in empire. From experience I would say maybe 10% of those members are active during a wardec. To find those guys online using the proposed method from Lady Ayeipsia would be a HUGE task. And ineffective.. A lvl4 locates gives you location of the target when you ran the locate agent You get the answer back 10 min later, so if he was moving he is long gone by the time you get there. Then theres the agent cooldown before you can run another locate. (another 20min on top) Ofc you have multiple agents.. But you also have to move from agent to agent, this takes time. Oh.. and dont forget the cost.. 250k every locate you run. Basicly you will have more chance of finding an online target sitting in a hub or pipe waiting for him to pass you. Its not about beeing lazy (well for some it is) but more using the time more efficient. Both for us and our employers.
HoleySheet1 Renegade Armada. 846	Posted - 2016.03.08 16:38:39 - [45] - Quote Xorphix wrote: HoleySheet1 wrote: Seriously though, many "merc" groups adopted my doctrine of high scan resolution. I get the ship, and then the pod. Now you're just baiting for somebody to start on you. Naughty naughty. Do it to it. YEEHAW Killing your ships and pods since 2008. Killboards don't lie, Don't get mad, get better. Offering some used toilet paper for bumblefck's corpse.
Dom Arkaral Gate Is Red Complaints Department 132	Posted - 2016.03.08 16:54:16 - [46] - Quote Lord Razpataz wrote: Ozzie Udan wrote: Lady Ayeipsia wrote: Use a locator agent, get an eve mail on where a target is. Use an alt scout to go to the location, see if target is in local. Run locator again if the target isn't in local. If they are listed as in system, you know they are offline. It really isn't much different than if you knew your target but not their location. The only unknown I can think of is what happens to our current list. Will we be spammed with notifications of people who already had us watch listed or will it just be cleared With us starting anew. You are so right , but the word lazy comes to mind , why would they Hub hug in the 1st place. I still think its a crime of some of them to be called Mercs You have to think bigger.. Lets say as a merc you get a contract against an alliance with 100-200 members spread around in empire. From experience I would say maybe 10% of those members are active during a wardec. To find those guys online using the proposed method from Lady Ayeipsia would be a HUGE task. And ineffective.. A lvl4 locates gives you location of the target when you ran the locate agent You get the answer back 10 min later, so if he was moving he is long gone by the time you get there. Then theres the agent cooldown before you can run another locate. (another 20min on top) Ofc you have multiple agents.. But you also have to move from agent to agent, this takes time. Oh.. and dont forget the cost.. 250k every locate you run. Basicly you will have more chance of finding an online target sitting in a hub or pipe waiting for him to pass you. Its not about beeing lazy (well for some it is) but more using the time more efficient. Both for us and our employers. I totally agree. When I was in Black Hydra we used to do two things: 1-run locates and try to snatched targets, and when we were done doing that (with or without a kill), 2-we'd go back to Uedama to catch people on gates, and killing easily 3-4 times more.. Sometimes it's better to sit and wait than to go out and hunt But Ozzie wouldn't know, he never merc'd Merc. Tear Gatherer. Quebecker I have no Honer (truly) Attache ta tuque avec d'la broche! Salt Harvesting Level CCCXV Save me from myself. #broadcast4reps when you're in need o7
Ralph King-Griffin Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance 14612	Posted - 2016.03.08 17:25:50 - [47] - Quote Dom Arkaral wrote: Lord Razpataz wrote: Ozzie Udan wrote: Lady Ayeipsia wrote: Use a locator agent, get an eve mail on where a target is. Use an alt scout to go to the location, see if target is in local. Run locator again if the target isn't in local. If they are listed as in system, you know they are offline. It really isn't much different than if you knew your target but not their location. The only unknown I can think of is what happens to our current list. Will we be spammed with notifications of people who already had us watch listed or will it just be cleared With us starting anew. You are so right , but the word lazy comes to mind , why would they Hub hug in the 1st place. I still think its a crime of some of them to be called Mercs You have to think bigger.. Lets say as a merc you get a contract against an alliance with 100-200 members spread around in empire. From experience I would say maybe 10% of those members are active during a wardec. To find those guys online using the proposed method from Lady Ayeipsia would be a HUGE task. And ineffective.. A lvl4 locates gives you location of the target when you ran the locate agent You get the answer back 10 min later, so if he was moving he is long gone by the time you get there. Then theres the agent cooldown before you can run another locate. (another 20min on top) Ofc you have multiple agents.. But you also have to move from agent to agent, this takes time. Oh.. and dont forget the cost.. 250k every locate you run. Basicly you will have more chance of finding an online target sitting in a hub or pipe waiting for him to pass you. Its not about beeing lazy (well for some it is) but more using the time more efficient. Both for us and our employers. I totally agree. When I was in Black Hydra we used to do two things: 1-run locates and try to snatched targets, and when we were done doing that (with or without a kill), 2-we'd go back to Uedama to catch people on gates, and killing easily 3-4 times more.. Sometimes it's better to sit and wait than to go out and hunt But Ozzie wouldn't know, he never merc'd Well yeah, that would have been more efficient use of time for black hydra, the point here though is , now it's going to require a non-reasonable amount of effort to do anything other than go for the low hanging fruit. Better the Devil you know. =]\|[=
Ozzie Udan Caldari Provisions Caldari State 172	Posted - 2016.03.08 17:32:47 - [48] - Quote Dom Arkaral wrote: Lord Razpataz wrote: [quote=Ozzie Udan][quote=Lady Ayeipsia] I totally agree. When I was in Black Hydra we used to do two things: 1-run locates and try to snatched targets, and when we were done doing that (with or without a kill), 2-we'd go back to Uedama to catch people on gates, and killing easily 3-4 times more.. Sometimes it's better to sit and wait than to go out and hunt But Ozzie wouldn't know, he never merc'd How wrong you are but oh i do forget your very new , or is your corp History wrong , can't see it very well using my phone A soft answer turneth away wrath. Once wrath is looking the other way, shoot it in the head.
Dom Arkaral Gate Is Red Complaints Department 133	Posted - 2016.03.08 17:50:28 - [49] - Quote Ozzie Udan wrote: Dom Arkaral wrote: Lord Razpataz wrote: [quote=Ozzie Udan][quote=Lady Ayeipsia] I totally agree. When I was in Black Hydra we used to do two things: 1-run locates and try to snatched targets, and when we were done doing that (with or without a kill), 2-we'd go back to Uedama to catch people on gates, and killing easily 3-4 times more.. Sometimes it's better to sit and wait than to go out and hunt But Ozzie wouldn't know, he never merc'd How wrong you are but oh i do forget your very new , or is your corp History wrong , can't see it very well using my phone Lol very new Lol please Although you probably spent more time in an npc corp than I spent time in any player corp lmao Merc. Tear Gatherer. Quebecker I have no Honer (truly) Attache ta tuque avec d'la broche! Salt Harvesting Level CCCXV Save me from myself. #broadcast4reps when you're in need o7
FloppieTheBanjoClown The Skunkworks 3634	Posted - 2016.03.08 18:54:01 - [50] - Quote HoleySheet1 wrote: Never needed a watch list. All you had to do was watch the undock grid. Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.

Ralph King-Griffin Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance 14614	Posted - 2016.03.08 19:24:59 - [51] - Quote FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote: HoleySheet1 wrote: Never needed a watch list. All you had to do was watch the undock grid. To be fair to him , he does also have to keep an eye on the aggression timer. Better the Devil you know. =]\|[=
Droidster Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 236	Posted - 2016.03.08 19:28:12 - [52] - Quote 1. Go to location agent 2. Order agent to find guy 3. Agent says that "scumbag" is in Hatakani system blah blah blah 4. Go to system 5. He is not there because he is logged off
Johnny Punisher Paisti Paisti Syndicate 10	Posted - 2016.03.08 19:30:18 - [53] - Quote HoleySheet1 wrote: Emperor of Amarr King of Jita Scourge of the spaceplanes -Holeysheet1 Haha are you some highsec baddie? :D
Dom Arkaral Gate Is Red Complaints Department 133	Posted - 2016.03.08 19:35:32 - [54] - Quote Droidster wrote: 1. Go to location agent 2. Order agent to find guy 3. Agent says that "scumbag" is in Hatakani system blah blah blah 4. Go to system 5. He is not there because he is logged off Or he was moving Merc. Tear Gatherer. Quebecker I have no Honer (truly) Attache ta tuque avec d'la broche! Salt Harvesting Level CCCXV Save me from myself. #broadcast4reps when you're in need o7
Dom Arkaral Gate Is Red Complaints Department 133	Posted - 2016.03.08 19:36:32 - [55] - Quote Johnny Punisher wrote: HoleySheet1 wrote: Emperor of Amarr King of Jita Scourge of the spaceplanes -Holeysheet1 Haha are you some highsec baddie? :D Nah just some publord with a big ego Merc. Tear Gatherer. Quebecker I have no Honer (truly) Attache ta tuque avec d'la broche! Salt Harvesting Level CCCXV Save me from myself. #broadcast4reps when you're in need o7
Tora Bushido EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective 3269	Posted - 2016.03.09 08:19:31 - [56] - Quote Droidster wrote: 1. Go to location agent 2. Order agent to find guy 3. Agent says that "scumbag" is in Hatakani system blah blah blah 4. Go to system 5. He is not there because he is logged off Or jumped in the system next door. Try doing that with a 100 men target. The removal of watch lists will **** up mercs who hunt, will let the total number of wars increase and will have the targets dock all week, as they cant see when the evil mercs are online. DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE ! Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII. TORA BUSHIDO FOR CSM XI
Fybs Somalian Coast Guard Authority The Devil's Warrior Alliance 666	Posted - 2016.03.09 09:00:04 - [57] - Quote Tora Bushido wrote: Droidster wrote: 1. Go to location agent 2. Order agent to find guy 3. Agent says that "scumbag" is in Hatakani system blah blah blah 4. Go to system 5. He is not there because he is logged off Or jumped in the system next door. Try doing that with a 100 men target. The removal of watch lists will **** up mercs who hunt, will let the total number of wars increase and will have the targets dock all week, as they cant see when the evil mercs are online. I think it may make eve more dangerous. it will definitely make wars between mercs in HS more interesting. and ofcourse not knowing when enemy supers are logging in will hopefully Spring a few surprises in itself. we will all have to adapt or die Don't confuse kindness with weakness. Beware the hand of Fybs. Proud CEO of the Somalian Coast Guard Authority
Mortlake Devils Rejects 666 2024	Posted - 2016.03.09 09:56:00 - [58] - Quote None of this matters. I'm already in your mining fleet calling targets. Father to a murdered son. Husband to a murdered wife. Truth be told, I've been pretty unlucky.
Mephiztopheleze Republic University Minmatar Republic 563	Posted - 2016.03.09 12:44:51 - [59] - Quote Valkin Mordirc wrote: Hey I like you, You a cool dude. But don't tell me you're one those "The one true PVP is out Nullsec" Kinda dudes. Nope, I PvP mostly in Lowsec. Dom Arkaral wrote: Post on your main or gtfo Ty C&P This is my Forum Main, details of my Combat Alt are in my sig. see also: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=467323&find=unread Occasional Resident Newbie Correspondent for TMC: http://themittani.com/search/site/mephiztopheleze This is my Forum Main. My Combat Alt is sambo Inkura
Omar Alharazaad Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 2789	Posted - 2016.03.09 14:35:53 - [60] - Quote Mortlake wrote: None of this matters. I'm already in your mining fleet calling targets. Well, I know the Rattlesnake we caught this morning sure as hell didn't see us coming. In the bushes. With an erection. You don't see it coming. But I do... Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.



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