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Kaldaine GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.02.10 03:11:00 - [91] Originally by: Admentus Cor'vion Originally by: Isonkon Serikain Edited by: Isonkon Serikain on 10/02/2007 02:00:25 Originally by: Bellon Originally by: DHB WildCat Edited by: DHB WildCat on 09/02/2007 23:51:31 This is for all the alliances that are so called "Pets" living under BoB's shadow (of which you no longer need to be). This is an open invite to join the cause against the BoB entity. Some corps / Alliances that come to mind are MC FIX RISE Xelas I can understand your loyalty to BoB but it does not look good for them now, and you do not need to go down with them. In the end if your stances remain the same, Feyth, Querious, Delve, Fountain, will no longer be your to harbor in. This is a friendly invite to our cause, hope to hear from you soon. WildCat I find it absolutely hysterical that you would post this NOW, after losing 6 fleet battles in 4 hours, getting successfully Doomsdayed 3 times (one for 80+ kills!) and losing THREE 150+ man fleets for negligable kills. \0/ gogogo! hence the post...They are hoping everyone will turn on BOB... As for me, I'd rather go down with old mates. Qft. And as far as the goonswarm people who are muffling about kill death ratios, if you haven't learned already winning is as much about timing as it is kill death ratios. You having negative ones inevitably makes you slower, and less able to keep up. Have we actually had a positive k/d ratio? Im actually curious here. Last I checked we had stopped even caring if we lost more isk-wise.
Aelena Thraant Shadows of the Dead Aftermath Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.10 03:27:00 - [92] What.... you didn't offer us to join you.... Total BS.... Guess we will just have to shoot some goonies
Proxay Gallente Fallen Angel's Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.10 03:33:00 - [93] Originally by: DHB WildCat Edited by: DHB WildCat on 09/02/2007 23:51:31 This is for all the alliances that are so called "Pets" living under BoB's shadow (of which you no longer need to be). This is an open invite to join the cause against the BoB entity. Some corps / Alliances that come to mind are MC FIX RISE Xelas I can understand your loyalty to BoB but it does not look good for them now, and you do not need to go down with them. In the end if your stances remain the same, Feyth, Querious, Delve, Fountain, will no longer be your to harbor in. This is a friendly invite to our cause, hope to hear from you soon. WildCat Uh....what? (Get the facts sorted before you post)
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.02.10 03:38:00 - [94] Originally by: DHB WildCat Edited by: DHB WildCat on 09/02/2007 23:51:31 This is for all the alliances that are so called "Pets" living under BoB's shadow (of which you no longer need to be). This is an open invite to join the cause against the BoB entity. Some corps / Alliances that come to mind are MC FIX RISE Xelas I can understand your loyalty to BoB but it does not look good for them now, and you do not need to go down with them. In the end if your stances remain the same, Feyth, Querious, Delve, Fountain, will no longer be your to harbor in. This is a friendly invite to our cause, hope to hear from you soon. WildCat -[23] Member- EVE-Trance Radio! (DSTrance channel ingame)
Darkstar BP Caldari eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.02.10 03:41:00 - [95] Originally by: Isonkon Serikain hence the post...They are hoping everyone will turn on BOB... Strike "hoping" and replace by "realizing". The War of Revelation is upon us. BoB will pay.
DHB WildCat BURN EDEN GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.02.10 03:49:00 - [96] Edited by: DHB WildCat on 10/02/2007 03:45:35 The purpose of this post has been achieved. The lines for all entities have been drawn, all targets are now known and set. I look foward to the fights ahead. (and who the hell are aftermath alliance?) Okay mods, you can close this thread now, since you like to do it to most of mine 8). WildCat
Gallente Caliente Anti-BoB Flash Mob	Posted - 2007.02.10 03:54:00 - [97] Last? ----------------------------------------------- www.nobob.info
Stoffer Ninjapirate Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.02.10 03:59:00 - [98] Originally by: Chirinako In a nutshell - Don't think you'll get Fix support. Quite the opposite. I'm no commander of FIX, I just hope we'll stick to our morals. Bob help us when we ask for it. We'll return the favour, I'm sure of that. So your morals tells you to support an alliance that just got caught cheating?
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.02.10 04:06:00 - [99] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 10/02/2007 04:06:07 Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate Originally by: Chirinako In a nutshell - Don't think you'll get Fix support. Quite the opposite. I'm no commander of FIX, I just hope we'll stick to our morals. Bob help us when we ask for it. We'll return the favour, I'm sure of that. So your morals tells you to support an alliance that just got caught cheating? Are you kidding me? One member of BoB cheated. He was caught, and hopefully CCP will fire t20 for his actions. I sure hope so; what he did was despicable. On the other hand, all of Goonfleet has in the past used software that blatantly violates the EULA. In fact, since it was required, every member of Goonfleet who was playing at that time is indeed a cheater. I would rather support an alliance where one, single person cheated than one where every single member of the alliance was required to cheat as a policy. Your alliance are proven cheaters. You cannot spin this, it is a fact. As long as you are in EVE you cannot honestly insult anyone else as cheaters because of your own stupid decisions. Its as if Band of Brothers was flaming someone for use of propaganda; its outright, hilarious hypocrisy. -[23] Member- EVE-Trance Radio! (DSTrance channel ingame)
Tod Klemp Gallente K-Street Project	Posted - 2007.02.10 04:09:00 - [100] Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 10/02/2007 04:04:08 Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate Originally by: Chirinako In a nutshell - Don't think you'll get Fix support. Quite the opposite. I'm no commander of FIX, I just hope we'll stick to our morals. Bob help us when we ask for it. We'll return the favour, I'm sure of that. So your morals tells you to support an alliance that just got caught cheating? Are you kidding me? One member of BoB cheated. On the other hand, all of Goonfleet has in the past used software that blatantly violates the EULA. In fact, since it was required, every member of Goonfleet who was playing at that time is indeed a cheater. I would rather support an alliance where one, single person cheated than one where every single member of the alliance was required to cheat as a policy. Your alliance are proven cheaters. You cannot spin this, it is a fact. As long as you are in EVE you cannot honestly insult anyone else as cheaters because of your own stupid decisions. qft CCP had to add the lame standing indicator to local (more lag for all) because the whole of goon cheated. Your sence of sef ritcheousness is comical.

Stradiot Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.02.10 04:10:00 - [101] well CCP must've liked our "cheats"..because they proceeded to design an identification system that performs the same role
manimani Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.02.10 04:10:00 - [102] Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 10/02/2007 04:05:11 Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate Originally by: Chirinako In a nutshell - Don't think you'll get Fix support. Quite the opposite. I'm no commander of FIX, I just hope we'll stick to our morals. Bob help us when we ask for it. We'll return the favour, I'm sure of that. So your morals tells you to support an alliance that just got caught cheating? Are you kidding me? One member of BoB cheated. He was caught, and hopefully CCP will fire t20 for his actions. I sure hope so; what he did was despicable. On the other hand, all of Goonfleet has in the past used software that blatantly violates the EULA. In fact, since it was required, every member of Goonfleet who was playing at that time is indeed a cheater. I would rather support an alliance where one, single person cheated than one where every single member of the alliance was required to cheat as a policy. Your alliance are proven cheaters. You cannot spin this, it is a fact. As long as you are in EVE you cannot honestly insult anyone else as cheaters because of your own stupid decisions. Yeah, you're right. Maybe we should all get banned Or maybe the reason why your local window has the little cube on the right is because of this little hack that goonswarm produced
Tod Klemp Gallente K-Street Project	Posted - 2007.02.10 04:10:00 - [103] Originally by: Stradiot well CCP must've liked our "cheats"..because they proceeded to design an identification system that performs the same role haha exactly....
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.02.10 04:11:00 - [104] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 10/02/2007 04:08:15 Originally by: manimani Yeah, you're right. Maybe we should all get banned Or maybe the reason why your local window has the little cube on the right is because of this little hack that goonswarm produced So cheating is only justified when you do it? You cannot honestly insult anyone for cheating when cheating was one of your own alliance policies. Period. -[23] Member- EVE-Trance Radio! (DSTrance channel ingame)
Stoffer Ninjapirate Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.02.10 04:12:00 - [105] Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 10/02/2007 04:06:07 Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate Originally by: Chirinako In a nutshell - Don't think you'll get Fix support. Quite the opposite. I'm no commander of FIX, I just hope we'll stick to our morals. Bob help us when we ask for it. We'll return the favour, I'm sure of that. So your morals tells you to support an alliance that just got caught cheating? Are you kidding me? One member of BoB cheated. He was caught, and hopefully CCP will fire t20 for his actions. I sure hope so; what he did was despicable. On the other hand, all of Goonfleet has in the past used software that blatantly violates the EULA. In fact, since it was required, every member of Goonfleet who was playing at that time is indeed a cheater. I would rather support an alliance where one, single person cheated than one where every single member of the alliance was required to cheat as a policy. Your alliance are proven cheaters. You cannot spin this, it is a fact. As long as you are in EVE you cannot honestly insult anyone else as cheaters because of your own stupid decisions. Its as if Band of Brothers was flaming someone for use of propaganda; its outright, hilarious hypocrisy. One person? how about the people in BOB that not only knew about this, but let it happen? Also, could you please direct me to where a Goonswarm member was caught using a third party software? I guess the only thing we agree on is that t20 should be fired.
Tod Klemp Gallente K-Street Project	Posted - 2007.02.10 04:12:00 - [106] Originally by: manimani Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 10/02/2007 04:05:11 Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate Originally by: Chirinako In a nutshell - Don't think you'll get Fix support. Quite the opposite. I'm no commander of FIX, I just hope we'll stick to our morals. Bob help us when we ask for it. We'll return the favour, I'm sure of that. So your morals tells you to support an alliance that just got caught cheating? Are you kidding me? One member of BoB cheated. He was caught, and hopefully CCP will fire t20 for his actions. I sure hope so; what he did was despicable. On the other hand, all of Goonfleet has in the past used software that blatantly violates the EULA. In fact, since it was required, every member of Goonfleet who was playing at that time is indeed a cheater. I would rather support an alliance where one, single person cheated than one where every single member of the alliance was required to cheat as a policy. Your alliance are proven cheaters. You cannot spin this, it is a fact. As long as you are in EVE you cannot honestly insult anyone else as cheaters because of your own stupid decisions. Yeah, you're right. Maybe we should all get banned Or maybe the reason why your local window has the little cube on the right is because of this little hack that goonswarm produced Yep, more lag for all \o/ Because CCP later adopted a similar 'fix' doesnt make your cheating right, now does it. Again, it was the whole of goon vs ONE guy in bob. Let that sink in...
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.02.10 04:13:00 - [107] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 10/02/2007 04:11:45 Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate One person? how about the people in BOB that not only knew about this, but let it happen? We don't know this. It might be, but there is no evidence. Its quite possible t20 simply told them that he won the BPOs in the lottery. Of course its also quite possible he, stupidly, told them he was a dev and that he could spawn winbuttons for them. Hopefully CCP will continue the investigation until we know exactly what happened. Better yet, BoB could admit fully the extent of their role in this, if any. I'm personally waiting for an official BoB post on the topic; it'll be interesting to see whether they spill it or spin it. I don't personally care much what the outcome is as long as we learn the full truth and people stop fearmongering. Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate Also, could you please direct me to where a Goonswarm member was caught using a third party software? There was a long thread in General Discussion a while back about the hack Goonfleet members used to show standings in local before the feature was implemented in Revelations. It was revealed that it was an alliance-wide feature required as policy. -[23] Member- EVE-Trance Radio! (DSTrance channel ingame)
Waagaa Ktlehr Amarr Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.02.10 04:15:00 - [108] We prefer the term "business partners". No-one has ever given us a better offer. You can contact Seleene or any other MC CEO for contract negotiations. - - One ship to jam them all, one ship to damp them. One ship to suck them dry and in the dark void gank them.
manimani Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.02.10 04:16:00 - [109] Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 10/02/2007 04:10:06 Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate One person? how about the people in BOB that not only knew about this, but let it happen? We don't know this. It might be, but there is no evidence. Hopefully CCP will continue the investigation until we know exactly what happened. Better yet, BoB could admit fully the extent of their role in this, if any. I'm personally waiting for an official BoB post on the topic; it'll be interesting to see whether they spill it or spin it. Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate Also, could you please direct me to where a Goonswarm member was caught using a third party software? There was a long thread in General Discussion a while back about the hack Goonfleet members used to show standings in local before the feature was implemented in Revelations. It was revealed that it was an alliance-wide feature required as policy. I have been a member for almost 8 months. I can sincerely tell you the director board has never forced us to do anything. Other than the occasional mandatory op. Or the punishment of fitting 100 frigates because someone who wants to alt post accidentally selected his goonswarm main instead
Virtuality Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.02.10 04:16:00 - [110] Just for the record the portrait pack, which wasn't 'hack' in any way shape or form, was not policy for anybody and was completely optional. Also, nobody gives a ****.

Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.02.10 04:17:00 - [111] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 10/02/2007 04:14:07 Originally by: Virtuality I'm a cheater, and I hope that nobody cares that I cheated when I insult other people for cheating. Fixed. -[23] Member- EVE-Trance Radio! (DSTrance channel ingame)
ScreamingLord Sutch Hand in Mouth	Posted - 2007.02.10 04:25:00 - [112] Originally by: Virtuality Just for the record the portrait pack, which wasn't 'hack' in any way shape or form, was not policy for anybody and was completely optional. Also, nobody gives a ****. It wasnt a "hack", it was a violation of the EULA though.
The Assyrian Mound of Severed Heads	Posted - 2007.02.10 04:25:00 - [113] Edited by: The Assyrian on 10/02/2007 04:22:34 Originally by: Virtuality Just for the record the portrait pack, which wasn't 'hack' in any way shape or form, was not policy for anybody and was completely optional. Also, nobody gives a ****. Wrong, it was clearly a hack, and identified BY CCP as a EULA violation. They even specified what section of the EULA was compromised by the hack. The problem was detection, not definition. It's great Goonswarm now has religion about cheating. Too bad they didn't a few months ago. Policy or no, it was very widely used, and everyone knew it. Cheating through and through. And you're quite wrong if you think people don't care about that. Goonswarm has been comically hypocritical.
Bellon Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.10 04:28:00 - [114] Originally by: M Bean Originally by: Bellon I find it absolutely hysterical that you would post this NOW, after losing 6 fleet battles in 4 hours, getting successfully Doomsdayed 3 times (one for 80+ kills!) and losing THREE 150+ man fleets for negligable kills. GUYS K/D RATIO. GUYS? Its not about K/D Ratios, its about the fact that we have forced you to change your plan and retreat with your fleet to an easier (and far less important) target. What did those losses achieve?
Admentus Cor'vion Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.02.10 04:30:00 - [115] Edited by: Admentus Cor''vion on 10/02/2007 04:31:16 Originally by: DHB WildCat Edited by: DHB WildCat on 09/02/2007 23:51:31 This is for all the alliances that are so called "Pets" living under BoB's shadow (of which you no longer need to be). This is an open invite to join the cause against the BoB entity. Some corps / Alliances that come to mind are MC FIX RISE Xelas I can understand your loyalty to BoB but it does not look good for them now, and you do not need to go down with them. In the end if your stances remain the same, Feyth, Querious, Delve, Fountain, will no longer be your to harbor in. This is a friendly invite to our cause, hope to hear from you soon. WildCat This thread is cute. Like a puppy. woof! Think of it this way, FIX were the people who took great cost and risk attempting to evacuate the reminants of Huzzah out of FAT, after not one, but two NAP breaks. Boys FIX tried the diplomatic route after that with IAC, your IAC friends said "F-Off". You picked the wrong time to dangle this carrot, albiet as withered and rotten as it is in front of alliances who very well have a strong relationship with BOB. You think anyones going to risk the credibility of moving? What are allegiances without honor, eh? Blah, I'll fix the durn sig when I feel like it.
Zanarkand Gallente Enterprise Estonia Cult of War	Posted - 2007.02.10 04:31:00 - [116] Originally by: Virtuality which wasn't 'hack' in any way shape or form Care to explain? Why isn't the whole GF banned yet? BoB might not be 100% clean, BUT don't try to say that other alliances are the angels in the sky. Ebayers, complex farmers, ebaying, account sharing, logoffskies, 8/10 angel RA(T) farming, carrier stuff etc <- these are ALL part of the mega-alliance daily lives... I remember reading something about Remedial account sharing on a random a random thread with some random chatlogs as proof. Wonder why he isn't banned yet??? Oh noes! He must be a dev!!!! ... I quit eve now... how unfair
Darkstar BP Caldari eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.02.10 04:32:00 - [117] Originally by: Dark Shikari One member of BoB cheated. Don't make us laugh. BoD management knew. BoD management profited. There is a documented (Kugutsumen) list of EULA violations by BoD (cynonet, alt trading, 'communist' model) which CCP apparently is not addressing. The EULA violations are judged one-sided. The problem continues to exist. CCP has not said that it will prohibit its employees to take up high-ranking positions in BoD again.
Virtuality Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.02.10 04:32:00 - [118] Edited by: Virtuality on 10/02/2007 04:31:13 nevermind this is pointless
Zanarkand Gallente Enterprise Estonia Cult of War	Posted - 2007.02.10 04:36:00 - [119] Originally by: Virtuality Edited by: Virtuality on 10/02/2007 04:31:13 nevermind this is pointless Yep, it is. GF isn't banned yet. So unfair, GF = devs, so unfair, I quit eve
Streber Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2007.02.10 04:37:00 - [120] Originally by: Darkstar BP Originally by: Dark Shikari One member of BoB cheated. Don't make us laugh. BoD management knew. BoD management profited. There is a documented (Kugutsumen) list of EULA violations by BoD (cynonet, alt trading, 'communist' model) which CCP apparently is not addressing. The EULA violations are judged one-sided. The problem continues to exist. CCP has not said that it will prohibit its employees to take up high-ranking positions in BoD again. GOON do all of these things and far far more. And they revel in it.



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