Why waste time and effort while I can just switch to Amarr militia and earn more LP?

...see? Exactly that's why I think the system's broken.

I'm only one person and there is over a thousand folks on each side of the conflict. Only a fraction of them sticks to one team. Whole rest prefers to calculate income and loss. Ans that's the reason behind my way of thinking. I'd rather quit than switch sides.

Then ride it out. Do what you can. Dont complain about isk. Try to recognize how to make their efforts fall short or minimize their progress in any way you can. You cannot make the difference alone. But if you are loyal to your faction i doubt you are alone.

It's hard to be loyal when you're being ignored in the militia channel, asking for fleets, reporting enemy activity and being alone in the most contested system while 9 WTs are capturing it... while everyone else just posts their KMs in the channel...

That would be hard.

Build, dont blame.

Hardest part of eve is clicking the 'form fleet' button.

I personally hate doing it, but i do it before posting about bad mechanics on the forum.

You must be in soul crushing agony every time you fleet up with your links boat huh?

I've just got a whooping reward of 7.125 LPs from deplexing Large Plex in Todifrauan, 63%-contested system (in the time of writing).
Minmatar faction is currently in distressing defense, being marginalized at 15,7% zone control, T1.
Back when it was sitting at almost T4, I used to gain around 30.000 LPs from Large Plexes in ~50%-contested systems.
This clearly indicates that the better the faction does, the higher rewards its followers can gain.
This in turn provokes people from losing faction to switch sides, because winning side provides better rewards.
From deplexing, invading enemy plexes as well as from missioning.
This is called a snowball effect and should NEVER exist in any tug of war activity.

I'd suggest making LP gains the smaller, the more influence the winning faction acquires and increase them for the losing faction to encourage pilots to defend it.

Until CCP fixes this, I'm not gonna participate in any kind of factional warfare.

Until CCP fixes this, I'm not gonna participate in any kind of factional warfare.

Can I has your warp core stabilisers?

Don't you have enough Caldari Navy Warp Core Stabilizers from turning in all your State Protectorate LP?

Why waste time and effort while I can just switch to Amarr militia and earn more LP?

...see? Exactly that's why I think the system's broken.

At high Tiers you run out of defensive plexes to run, particularly when you occupy a large part of WZ and most of your systems are close to stable.
The high LP modifier becomes trivial for running plexs and you get forced to run missions.

not aware of changes in the game but feel like making random suggestions anyways.

Fixed that for you. They changed FW missions to make it much harder to run them in a stealth bomber, and it was never super easy to run gal mil missions in one to begin with.

Well I just gave one a shot to see how different they are and promptly lost a Purifier . Seriously though, they are definitely still doable. I can see exactly where I messed up and how to avoid it. It would require a little more cherry picking and some slightly different tactics but the Minmatar ones are definitely still doable in stealth bombers, especially if you have two characters running them together, which is easy enough on a dual monitor PC.

The real way to fix it is to ensure the mission objectives aren't so vulnerable to torpedoes which is why I suggested Burner style missions. The current targets tend to be battleships, transports or structures which can all be hammered from 70-80 km away whilst outrunning the pursuing ships with a MWD.

Well I just gave one a shot to see how different they are and promptly lost a Purifier . Seriously though, they are definitely still doable. I can see exactly where I messed up and how to avoid it. It would require a little more cherry picking and some slightly different tactics but the Minmatar ones are definitely still doable in stealth bombers, especially if you have two characters running them together, which is easy enough on a dual monitor PC.

The real way to fix it is to ensure the mission objectives aren't so vulnerable to torpedoes which is why I suggested Burner style missions. The current targets tend to be battleships, transports or structures which can all be hammered from 70-80 km away whilst outrunning the pursuing ships with a MWD.

burner style? so a minmatar maelstrom that has nyx tank moros dps and windicator webs. seems legit. need 20 people to run fw missions yay.

And please just stop with the suggestions. Reversing the scale of the LP payouts for defensive plexes is pretty dumb.

Serious question, why? What problems/exploits do you see with it? I am happy to acknowledge that there may be issues that I haven't thought of but what are they?

There's no incentive to be 'winning'. Just as when we didn't get an award or trophy for total warzone control the 2nd time, it was so disheartening and lame. People put in a lot of hours, but we were refused a medal due to the horde of farmers that were riding bloody coat tails. Rewarding higher tier to the losers is so anti-climactic that it borders on being ridiculous. I understand what t1 feels like, but flipping rewards around like this is not the solution.

That is a fair point. What I was trying to address is the fact that when warzone control is mostly lost there is really no incentive to continue defending. Aside from the few groups that care about the pride factor, most FW players will either leave the losing side or stop participating and do something else once tier drops to T1. There needs to be rewards for winning control and the massive increase in LP payout for offensive plexing and mission running does give that to a degree. How can we encourage defenders to actually defend or even attack other systems when their side is losing? I've been on the other side at times and it can get pretty dead at high tiers with there being few people around to fight.

Where is your loyalty ?? FW is about honor and PVP, rewards should be considered a nice to have.

amazing how all these ideas about how to fix fw pop up when minmatar arnt at t4. enjoying the free lp train.