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Mira deVorsha
Caldari
Boards.ie
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Posted - 2007.02.14 06:40:00 -
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Despite what people say it is sometimes possible to probed down a cloaked ship. If the cloaked person is a noob.
Prototype cloaks. It is possible to find these kinds of ships if they don't take precautions. If the person has warped to a safepoint and you capture their location. Even if they cloak you can still get to that location. If they have not moved off of their entry point axis warping will automatically decloak them.
Its not 100% possible. I've done it twice out of numerous scans (both times scaring the heck out of the person cloaked).
Recon ships. These are next to impossible. If the cloaker is probing the system then you can find them by looking for multispectral probes. It will get you to their location, if they are not a good distance away from the probe you can sometimes get them.
Other then that, its next to impossible to find a cloaked ship. There are also certain fittings that can scatter a scan probe from getting a lock while uncloaked. I forget the name offhand.
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Haffrage
Less than Ideal
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Posted - 2007.02.14 07:52:00 -
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 Originally by: Mira deVorsha
Despite what people say it is sometimes possible to probed down a cloaked ship. If the cloaked person is a noob.
Prototype cloaks. It is possible to find these kinds of ships if they don't take precautions. If the person has warped to a safepoint and you capture their location. Even if they cloak you can still get to that location. If they have not moved off of their entry point axis warping will automatically decloak them.
Its not 100% possible. I've done it twice out of numerous scans (both times scaring the heck out of the person cloaked).
Recon ships. These are next to impossible. If the cloaker is probing the system then you can find them by looking for multispectral probes. It will get you to their location, if they are not a good distance away from the probe you can sometimes get them.
Other then that, its next to impossible to find a cloaked ship. There are also certain fittings that can scatter a scan probe from getting a lock while uncloaked. I forget the name offhand.
Uhm, I'd be more comfortable if you would back up some (any?) of this "information" with this stuff I call "proof" or even "evidence." Safespots? You probe somebody down in a safe and you're not going to warp to the same point they have BM'd, you'll warp to a distance relative to their location. If they warp to safes at 100km (as we all should just in case) and you WERE to warp in on the same BM, and you probe him and get an accuracy of 70KM, you'll be warping to 70KM off of him, not 70KM off of his safe BM.
And uh, for exploration, multispectral probes only need to be out long enough for ONE scan. They delete it and move along. They have to get 2KM away from the probe to recloak, standard procedure is usually drop probe, double click in random direction while 15 second launch timer wears off, hit scan, and recloak. I'm not sure many people stop for the scan, and the 30 seconds to scan him down while going base speed on any covops (or recon) is a fairly long distance to check, even if you know the general direction he's going in.
Fact is, cloaks are fairly secure. Which AFAIK is the INTENT of cloaking. Being undetectable and safe. In exchange nothing else can be put online and you can't reload.
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Doxs Roxs
White Wolves Defence league
The OSS
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Posted - 2007.02.14 09:12:00 -
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This seriously needs a fix, people should not be able to go afk while cloaked and be 100% safe.
Just ensure that cloaked ships are harder to scan down and we are ok.(just like it was promised in the dev blog)
If you want your cloaker to be really hard to find, fit ECCM modules on it. (thats the counter to being probed)
If you are actually playing the game then you will have no problem avoiding an enemy warping in on you trying to decloak you since you can see him and avoid him while he has no idea in what direction you went.
To sum it up, you should not be able to sit cloaked and afk in a system, if you want to play the game, do it actively.
Regards
/Doxs
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Necronomicon
Caldari
KIA Corp
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.14 09:17:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Toxic
Originally by: roadrage639
What about if they where to bring out a module that disrupts cloaking within a certain range of you when active?
Modules exist but they weren't released to the masses
Setting off a doomsday device usually disrupts their cloaks 
Carlsberg dont make Eve Pilots, but if they did, i wouldnt be one of them.
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Depp Knight
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.02.14 10:09:00 -
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Cloak ships are fine. The problem is cloak hostile alts sitting in your home doing nothing more than that.
The problem here is that nearly every ship in eve apart from some frigs can fit a cloak on their ship. Huge problem this is.
If only certain ships could fit a cloak. IMO a normal cloak should only be fitted on combat recons and stealth bombers, the covert ops cloaks are perfect as they are. Meaning only ships like covert ops, stealth and recon should should be able to cloak.
As for battleships and capitals imo they should be to big to be cloaked.
As for T2 battleships, wouldnt it be cool to have a recon battleship that can cloak everyone around it? Thats what i would like to see a t2 bs be like, it could hide an entire fleet in a system but this is a little off topic.
Who ever mentioned that cloaked ships not appearing in local, thats a good point. Imagein a whole fleet in system but not in local. Alot eve can do.
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Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2007.02.14 10:11:00 -
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Originally by: Depp Knight
Cloak ships are fine. The problem is cloak hostile alts sitting in your home doing nothing more than that.
The problem here is that nearly every ship in eve apart from some frigs can fit a cloak on their ship. Huge problem this is.
If only certain ships could fit a cloak. IMO a normal cloak should only be fitted on combat recons and stealth bombers, the covert ops cloaks are perfect as they are. Meaning only ships like covert ops, stealth and recon should should be able to cloak.
As for battleships and capitals imo they should be to big to be cloaked.
As for T2 battleships, wouldnt it be cool to have a recon battleship that can cloak everyone around it? Thats what i would like to see a t2 bs be like, it could hide an entire fleet in a system but this is a little off topic.
Who ever mentioned that cloaked ships not appearing in local, thats a good point. Imagein a whole fleet in system but not in local. Alot eve can do.
No, being able to cloak any ship I want to move aroud quietly is quite nice, kthxbye
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