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Isonkon Serikain Gallente Band of Builders Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.02.13 22:53:00 - [31] Originally by: Stockarian I'm sorry, but if you think robert won the class war, all you have to do is look back a couple of months ago on these forums to see their true form. Every one of their posts I have had the misfortune of reading has been nothing but arrogance and e-peen. Class does not describe them in the least bit. At least they smack AFTER taking down their enemy, not before...ahem.. So yeah there's a bit more merit there, than what is going on now in the forums... Pity the fool
Kaeten Hybrid Syndicate Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.13 22:55:00 - [32] Originally by: **uko A Few reasons: Thier smack is undeniably the worst in the game, its got better since atuk calmed down a bit but they still stand out from the crowd. The shout about respecting people that stand up to them, but once those that stood up to them are dead the respect flies out the window. They merely dish out fake respect to those that oppose them in order to keep the slaughter of thier fleets going a little longer. They try to manipulate the eve population into thinking entities such as ASCN are stronger than D2 etc. Which is frankly just totaly rubbish, if ASCN were thier greatest challange, where are RAGOONTCF hammering the out of them in comparison to the first weeks of the ASCN war? Also, Dice, while winning many fights in the north, also got spanked in a few. I couldnt name an ASCN fleet battle win. Then theres the cheating. Whether you like it or not, this recent debockle was not an isolated event, plenty more corruption will have and probly still is going on in bob. Whether it be hints on whats to come in eve or fresh new spawned BPO's. And finally, BoB play this game asif it is real life, corruption and poor leadership in everyone elses alliances is absolutely unforgiveable, yet when it is in thier own its excuseable. Garunteed, if this Dev scandle would have gone on in D2, BOB would be all over the forums right now, destroying D2 and CCP from every single angle possible. Yet they act like the bullied school child when its happens to them. Forum ban..... More like a way to stop thier own members showing thier alliance up even more. Respect for bringing it? It is actually a game, and they have what it takes to "bring it". Other alliance dont like to just run into bob and die, because, even though it is a game, people still enjoy WINNING. BoB only "bring it" when they know they can win, which is obviously most of the time, every time they lose is because they **** it up. I read this post and I think of it comming from a BOB member this time. You know what I get my head. A near mirror image. Ofc BOB do/say things that are wrong/inaccurate. It's apart of their game just like what your saying here. Diffrence here though is that I'm unbiased while your not. Pwnage PvP Recruitment \m/ Metal Head \m/
Kaeten Hybrid Syndicate Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.13 22:57:00 - [33] Originally by: Stockarian I'm sorry, but if you think robert won the class war, all you have to do is look back a couple of months ago on these forums to see their true form. Every one of their posts I have had the misfortune of reading has been nothing but arrogance and e-peen. Class does not describe them in the least bit. That's the biggest problems with people that don't listen and form proper posts. It becomes an E-PEEN contest, those are biased posters though. We'll never get rid of em though. And tbh, if everyoen was unbiased these forusm would be pretty dull. Pwnage PvP Recruitment \m/ Metal Head \m/
Shizuko Caldari E X O D U S	Posted - 2007.02.13 22:59:00 - [34] No1 is unbias mate.
Stockarian eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.02.13 22:59:00 - [35] Originally by: Isonkon Serikain Originally by: Stockarian I'm sorry, but if you think robert won the class war, all you have to do is look back a couple of months ago on these forums to see their true form. Every one of their posts I have had the misfortune of reading has been nothing but arrogance and e-peen. Class does not describe them in the least bit. At least they smack AFTER taking down their enemy, not before...ahem.. So yeah there's a bit more merit there, than what is going on now in the forums... Smack, before, during or after, does not, and will never, equal class. To save time, why don't you avoid the facts and get right to the spin.
Kaeten Hybrid Syndicate Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.13 23:03:00 - [36] Edited by: Kaeten on 13/02/2007 22:59:51 Originally by: Isonkon Serikain Originally by: Kaeten Originally by: Isonkon Serikain Originally by: Crucifier I dont give a **** about the dev incident. All i want is them to die. BOB aready won the class war, by a long margin, thanks to the deluge of silly smack and hate posts... And to those of you who would pat yourselves on the back IF you were to beat BoB down, remember you a far more numerous than they are, so good job and way to keep it sportmanly. i don't know how many times I've said this. We arenSt only fighting bob. BOB(and rest) also say numbers don't matter, it's skill. So your point is pretty irrelevent. But you seem to believe numbers matter enough to beat skill, otherwise, why are you uniting against them? Because thats what BoB and co said. I never once said. Our side says oppisite etc. (I think skill>numbers thats just me). So it's a matter of own opionion here. Pwnage PvP Recruitment \m/ Metal Head \m/
The Mittani GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.02.13 23:04:00 - [37] The ultimate question about whether BoD should be respected or not: So what? Only a fool thinks that honor and respect make an atom's worth of difference in the ugly realities of deep 0.0 politics. Realpolitik cares nothing for these sentimental fripperies.
Chaomos Skynard The Flaming Sideburn's	Posted - 2007.02.13 23:05:00 - [38] Respect Kaeten on the post. I know a lot of guys in BoB and I can assure you none of them would cheat. They can b arrogant as an alliance but when you have been winning for so long it is an easy trap to fall into. We have a relationship with TCF and TNT so perhaps will find ourselves in that camp(CEO decision) but whoever we join, just want some pew pew and a bit of a laugh. Don't get why so many peeps get wound up so much, as has already been stated this is just a game. However I hope this does reduce some of the BoB postings slagging everyone off. That did include CA recently if I remember rightly. Just fight each other and enjoy your victories. Look forward to some decent quality combat reports from both sides.
Abye SniggWaffe Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.02.13 23:07:00 - [39] Funny that one BoB fleet fitting demanded passive targeters, and these aren't buggy at all ___ Inappropriate signature. Please do not use this signature. Email us for more information -Eldo ([email protected])
Kaeten Hybrid Syndicate Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.13 23:08:00 - [40] Originally by: ****uko No1 is unbias mate. Adn you would know this because your not? Every single psot made here has had me aswering them back. I eaither 1) admit I was wrong, change my statement or 2)prove my point is valid. Pwnage PvP Recruitment \m/ Metal Head \m/
Superbus Maximus Gallente Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.02.13 23:09:00 - [41] Originally by: crice Originally by: Shamis Orzoz Bob definitely are skilled players. I respect their abilities. I don't respect their arrogance, among other things... Honest and well said. I respect winners not whiners. BoB has earned their place, just like the Old Original Curse Alliance had. They earned a place in history. Now if you could do something that was amazing and took real leadership and logistics and dedication, you may have other peoples respect. You sure as hell arent going to get respect posting on these forums, carrier kills or "we pwn you stuff". Your the evil and you will be purged. crice I've allways liked fighting against LV and BoB. You guys allways brought good fights lets hope to see some more.
Kaeten Hybrid Syndicate Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.13 23:11:00 - [42] Off t obed, will countinue my seek for unbiased justice tommorow. Sleep well and noone in gods name will turn this into a flamefest on my behalf. Thank you. Pwnage PvP Recruitment \m/ Metal Head \m/
Prydeless Vengeance of the Fallen Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.13 23:14:00 - [43] BoB gets no respect from me... Disclaimer: I am a God.
Ouroboron Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.02.13 23:17:00 - [44] Good thread. Respect should be given where it is due. For example, it's hard to not have respect for their propoganda machine that seemingly convinced most of the EVEO community that they had driven us from the game, after uselessly camping a gate for two weeks while most of were ratting and running missions 2 jumps away. Chowdown fights with honor.
Plutoinum German Cyberdome Corp Cult of War	Posted - 2007.02.13 23:24:00 - [45] Respect for the guys, who see it as what it should be, as a war against BoB, LV etc., maybe their most 'hated' enemy ingame, but not the war against devs/cheaters.
Blue Stratos Amarr BOOM - Gotcha	Posted - 2007.02.13 23:44:00 - [46] Originally by: Crucifier I dont give a **** about the dev incident. All i want is them to die. Exactly the comment id expect from a BE member, do you guys ever post anything that isnt abusive or hateful on these forums?
BuSHiDo ZiN GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.02.13 23:45:00 - [47] Originally by: Xelphior Originally by: The Mittani Originally by: Xelphior you have to respect the other point of view, and what if your positions were reversed, what if a member of your corp was found cheating and then You, not just you alliance but YOU because your in said alliance were branded a cheater yet you had nothing to do with it. See things objectivly and dont be too quick to start pointing fingers, its never good Judging the Whole of a group by a minority is it? huh Yeah, it really sucks when people wave a flag of out-of-game moral righteousness as an excuse for an in-game war. I'm so glad you little BoD pets have come to see my side of things. BoB ... Dont go all; to quote "out-of-game moral righteousness its the general consensous tbfh, and im no pet, this pet has teeth Careful, your cognitive dissonance is showing.
Thor Xian Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation	Posted - 2007.02.13 23:48:00 - [48] I can't say if I respect or do not respect BoB...not knowing just how much or little of their accomplishments were with or without CCP's direct or indirect involvement makes it hard to gauge them on that scale. Frankly, at this point I'm beginning to think CCP employed players should be limited to NPC corps. _________________________ ~Thor Xian, Material Defender "For all your Material Needs, Vertigo One." Got Alliance? Contact me ingame for alliance creation services.
Dinamita Tona Constructive Influence	Posted - 2007.02.13 23:56:00 - [49] Originally by: **uko A Few reasons: Thier smack is undeniably the worst in the game, its got better since atuk calmed down a bit but they still stand out from the crowd. The shout about respecting people that stand up to them, but once those that stood up to them are dead the respect flies out the window. They merely dish out fake respect to those that oppose them in order to keep the slaughter of thier fleets going a little longer. They try to manipulate the eve population into thinking entities such as ASCN are stronger than D2 etc. Which is frankly just totaly rubbish, if ASCN were thier greatest challange, where are RAGOONTCF hammering the out of them in comparison to the first weeks of the ASCN war? Also, Dice, while winning many fights in the north, also got spanked in a few. I couldnt name an ASCN fleet battle win. Then theres the cheating. Whether you like it or not, this recent debockle was not an isolated event, plenty more corruption will have and probly still is going on in bob. Whether it be hints on whats to come in eve or fresh new spawned BPO's. And finally, BoB play this game asif it is real life, corruption and poor leadership in everyone elses alliances is absolutely unforgiveable, yet when it is in thier own its excuseable. Garunteed, if this Dev scandle would have gone on in D2, BOB would be all over the forums right now, destroying D2 and CCP from every single angle possible. Yet they act like the bullied school child when its happens to them. Forum ban..... More like a way to stop thier own members showing thier alliance up even more. Respect for bringing it? It is actually a game, and they have what it takes to "bring it". Other alliance dont like to just run into bob and die, because, even though it is a game, people still enjoy WINNING. BoB only "bring it" when they know they can win, which is obviously most of the time, every time they lose is because they ** it up. - Thier smack is undeniably the worst in the game, its got better since atuk calmed down a bit but they still stand out from the crowd. Their smack is when they tell you that you suck because you suck. As for being worst in game, well i am aware none likes to be smacked down all the time, but some people just ask for it by their retarded comments and actions in the game. /me points at Goon comments on forums and in game... /me loled - The shout about respecting people that stand up to them, but once those that stood up to them are dead the respect flies out the window. They merely dish out fake respect to those that oppose them in order to keep the slaughter of thier fleets going a little longer. When you once get respect from BoB you always have it. Fake respect? Slaughter of their fleets? WTF? - They try to manipulate the eve population into thinking entities such as ASCN are stronger than D2 etc. Which is frankly just totaly rubbish, if ASCN were thier greatest challange, where are RAGOONTCF hammering the out of them in comparison to the first weeks of the ASCN war? Also, Dice, while winning many fights in the north, also got spanked in a few. I couldnt name an ASCN fleet battle win. They as any other member of EvE community have right on their opinion, in this case they have it more than you seeing they fought and disbanded D1 which reformed to D2, and that they fought Xetic, which reformed to ASCN which reformed... ah wait, which don't exist anymore. If you can say that RA and (ROFL) Goons are hammering ** out of BoB then i don't know dude you must have been on brain wash classes with Remedial. Maybe a visit to kill boards should fill up your deluded image of what is actually going on in the EvE right now. ASCN never won fleet battle because all of them was more or less even in numbers like maybe 20 or so + for ASCN which obviously show skill of BoB FCs and members isn't it? or you as great Arm Chair general know something rest of us don't? Mind sharing that knowledge?
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar Momentum. Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.02.14 00:02:00 - [50] Edited by: Flinx Evenstar on 14/02/2007 00:00:52 Originally by: Kaeten Even though BOB did have ONE cheater in them You mean ONE that has confesed...there are many more "suspects" ..but yes, respect to the BOB guys that are still trying to do their thing. Of course I want to see your ships blow up...but what I really want to see is BOB come out of this on the other side...with new command and better ethics. ( I really hope your forum monkeys have died ) Then you will gain the praise that you "may" deserve. We all know that there are some seriously sh1t hot BOB pvp'rs and FC's...and I feel their pain, when now, no matter what they do, they are tarnished. O7 to the BOB corps still out there fighting with honour. Edit: I can't spell Tears will stream down your face, when you lose something you can not replace
Graalum Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.02.14 00:04:00 - [51] Originally by: Isonkon Serikain Originally by: Kaeten Originally by: Isonkon Serikain Originally by: Crucifier I dont give a **** about the dev incident. All i want is them to die. BOB aready won the class war, by a long margin, thanks to the deluge of silly smack and hate posts... And to those of you who would pat yourselves on the back IF you were to beat BoB down, remember you a far more numerous than they are, so good job and way to keep it sportmanly. i don't know how many times I've said this. We arenSt only fighting bob. BOB(and rest) also say numbers don't matter, it's skill. So your point is pretty irrelevent. But you seem to believe numbers matter enough to beat skill, otherwise, why are you uniting against them? Collective disdain? BoB has made many enemies, people are lining up to fight this one ffs.
ElCholo Minmatar	Posted - 2007.02.14 00:06:00 - [52] Originally by: Isonkon Serikain Edited by: Isonkon Serikain on 13/02/2007 22:43:41 Originally by: Crucifier I dont give a **** about the dev incident. All i want is them to die. BOB aready won the class war, by a long margin, thanks to the deluge of silly smack and hate posts... And to those of you who would pat yourselves on the back IF you were to beat BoB down, remember you a far more numerous than they are, so good job and way to keep it sportmanly. No one will care or respect you more for having beaten the greatest pvp alliance in a war of attrition while outnumbering them... Not that you would hold respect and sportsmanship in high esteem. It is wholly apparent that many in the anti-BOB camp hold a grudge. I can think of many reasons why, after all... 1st - There is no 'sportsmanship' in war - want that, play golf. 2nd - Since most of the server is of the opinion BoB has the majority of the best pvp pilots and best equipped ships - it stands to reason the only way to beat them is through numbers. If numbers wins the war, so be it. 3rd - BoB and their arrogance and "bring it" stance to the rest of eve is an invitation to a mass pile on. It happens in every MMO sooner or later. The balloon has gone up - what the map looks like in the end is to be decided.
Dinamita Tona Constructive Influence	Posted - 2007.02.14 00:06:00 - [53] Originally by: **uko A Few reasons: Thier smack is undeniably the worst in the game, its got better since atuk calmed down a bit but they still stand out from the crowd. The shout about respecting people that stand up to them, but once those that stood up to them are dead the respect flies out the window. They merely dish out fake respect to those that oppose them in order to keep the slaughter of thier fleets going a little longer. They try to manipulate the eve population into thinking entities such as ASCN are stronger than D2 etc. Which is frankly just totaly rubbish, if ASCN were thier greatest challange, where are RAGOONTCF hammering the out of them in comparison to the first weeks of the ASCN war? Also, Dice, while winning many fights in the north, also got spanked in a few. I couldnt name an ASCN fleet battle win. Then theres the cheating. Whether you like it or not, this recent debockle was not an isolated event, plenty more corruption will have and probly still is going on in bob. Whether it be hints on whats to come in eve or fresh new spawned BPO's. And finally, BoB play this game asif it is real life, corruption and poor leadership in everyone elses alliances is absolutely unforgiveable, yet when it is in thier own its excuseable. Garunteed, if this Dev scandle would have gone on in D2, BOB would be all over the forums right now, destroying D2 and CCP from every single angle possible. Yet they act like the bullied school child when its happens to them. Forum ban..... More like a way to stop thier own members showing thier alliance up even more. Respect for bringing it? It is actually a game, and they have what it takes to "bring it". Other alliance dont like to just run into bob and die, because, even though it is a game, people still enjoy WINNING. BoB only "bring it" when they know they can win, which is obviously most of the time, every time they lose is because they ** it up. - Then theres the cheating. Whether you like it or not, this recent debockle was not an isolated event, plenty more corruption will have and probly still is going on in bob. Whether it be hints on whats to come in eve or fresh new spawned BPO's. Are you Molles alt to know was this isolated event and is there any more corruption in BoB? were you ever in BoB? I say your Corporation is cheaters as well for logging off inside dictor bubbles. D2 is cheaters for using hacking to gain IPs of people. RA is for selling isk on E Bay, Goons are also having devs in their alliance that supplies them with t1 frigates. - And finally, BoB play this game asif it is real life, corruption and poor leadership in everyone elses alliances is absolutely unforgiveable, yet when it is in thier own its excuseable. Garunteed, if this Dev scandle would have gone on in D2, BOB would be all over the forums right now, destroying D2 and CCP from every single angle possible. Yet they act like the bullied school child when its happens to them. Here you go again with how BoB players game? Are you in BoB? No? How do you know how they play game? Do you really think they care if Goons are corrupted or led in poor manner? Do you think they would be here after all they achieved as alliance if they are poorly led? If Dev scandal was in D2 there would be only BoB saying its wrong and not acceptable, same like they say for their own member, and rest of you ass licker's would defend mighty D2. I doubt there would be bandwagon to kill D2 because they cheated and oh our ego is so hurt that i will leave game now. - Forum ban..... More like a way to stop thier own members showing thier alliance up even more. Maybe, if you think about it a bit they don't wanna lower them selfs on 5 year olds level like people do in last week or so? /me points at so called Coalition forum ***s who fails to deliver in game and have urge to take it on forums because now they have right to beat BoB somehow. Honor to those who realize bigger picture. One in wich EvE is game.
MuthaTrucka Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp.	Posted - 2007.02.14 00:07:00 - [54] Originally by: Xelphior They are on a forum ban, and they are following it they are putting up with utter rubbish off the forums and general discrimination and stupid namecalling. its stupid, how bout we just Stfu about them and get on with it huh Highly Ironic that they Belittled ASCN Leadership for instituting a Forum ban while saying BoB would never do that......... --------------- Don't Call me a Carebear, I don't really care about much at all.
Limlox Caldari B4N3	Posted - 2007.02.14 00:08:00 - [55] Funny how this has almost turned into another BoB/Dev slate. Respect to BoB for what they have accomplished and for their ideals of hoping to open 0.0 space to pilots that would otherwise not have the opportunity to access the joys of rare mins Even if in the doing so did make they're own wallets even fatter. One thing that I have to say though, the thing that saddens me is that a BoB leader did lower himself enough to reveal RL details of another player publically, which in my mind outweighs any positives they would ever accomplish.
Pesadel0 Vagabundos	Posted - 2007.02.14 00:13:00 - [56] Originally by: Isonkon Serikain Originally by: Stockarian I'm sorry, but if you think robert won the class war, all you have to do is look back a couple of months ago on these forums to see their true form. Every one of their posts I have had the misfortune of reading has been nothing but arrogance and e-peen. Class does not describe them in the least bit. At least they smack AFTER taking down their enemy, not before...ahem.. So yeah there's a bit more merit there, than what is going on now in the forums... You are kidding right?
Red Gabba Use Of Weapons	Posted - 2007.02.14 00:16:00 - [57] Since i left Maelstrom and LV i have little bearing on current events and my voice is mostly ignored however... I do however respect and admire Kaeten's post, well said and also true, even if i despise Curse Alliance i can have respect for the same players. sadly some of the witch hunts and posts on the forums will taint views of players and in turn will taint there alliance, my experience of Goons and "fofofofofofo" in local has made sure that i will always dislike the goons immensely, and the same for people who fly to there cause, that's just me, Forum gags are needed at times, because like it or not, people with little or no charm will post and show up the rest of there allience. Not sure were i was going with this now
thoradh AirHawk Alliance Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.14 00:33:00 - [58] Originally by: ***uko I see no reason to respect them frankly. Inserts the discalimer for not speaking for alliance or corp* Nothing will give me greater pleasure than urinatinating on their collective graves. > > Noli illegitimi carborundum! >
Red Crown	Posted - 2007.02.14 00:38:00 - [59] I have little reason to respect BoB as a whole or on the individual level. This whole dev scandal made me lose more respect for them, not because the devs were helping, but because they chose to profit off of it. They've also proven to me that besides all else, they are just flat jerks.
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar Momentum. Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.02.14 00:42:00 - [60] Originally by: ElCholo 2nd - Since most of the server is of the opinion BoB has the majority of the best pvp pilots and best equipped ships - it stands to reason the only way to beat them is through numbers. If numbers wins the war, so be it. Sorry mate but I have to disagree on that. Yes the myth is BOB fly only insta damage monsters..but looking at the KM from earlier. They brought Ravens and T1 fitted tempest to a fleet battle tonight We have total respect for DICE COIN etc and their gank squads...so all our BS were T2 fitted. Dont underestimate your opponents...and dont bring missile boats to a fleet battle I agree with point number 3...I would like to see less BOB arrogance..and more BOB pew pew. We all know its what they do best Tears will stream down your face, when you lose something you can not replace

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