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Le Cardinal ECP Rogues Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.02.14 11:49:00 - [91] Granted im biased as im on the wrong side of the barrel, but wouldnt you also as ur x-BoB (if im not mistaken?). I think most corps have anti smack policy. But with the amount of forum smack coming from BoB its hard to accept this. I think their attitude on eve-o is what turn ppl against them most of all. Not the latest dev scandal. That just tore a giant hole in their credibility. An attack against BoB requires, as i stated before, alot of planning. At least if its meant to be a devastating blow to them. Some random attacks on their home wont cut it. So it would be sensible to assume that most of these attacks have been planned way ahead of latest scandal. Also im adding again. I bet there was only a very few that knew about t20. So i for one wont blame the majority of bob.
Kaeten Hybrid Syndicate Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.14 11:57:00 - [92] Originally by: Le Cardinal Granted im biased as im on the wrong side of the barrel, but wouldnt you also as ur x-BoB (if im not mistaken?). What has this got to do with me not being unbiased. I've probably got a better idea when it comes ot how they work and how they are (that's if their lifestyles haven't changed, bet it hasn't). Atm in time a good BOB ship is a dead BOB ship (with lot's of t2/faction loot). I'm not on BOB's side when it comes to EVE warfare. I am on the otherside. I'm biased when it comes to killin gthem. I want them dead (lol). However this still does not change the fact that I'm unbiased when it comes to other aspects than EVE-warfare (combat/pvp). Pwnage PvP Recruitment \m/ Metal Head \m/
Logan Feynman Constructive Influence	Posted - 2007.02.14 12:01:00 - [93] Originally by: Anonymous Coward Originally by: Xelphior i see every reason. regardless of methods they have built an empire in game and a Reputation for being one of the best pvp groups about. They are on a forum ban, and they are following it they are putting up with utter rubbish off the forums and general discrimination and stupid namecalling. its stupid, how bout we just Stfu about them and get on with it huh You realize how incredibly stupid it looks when a COIN alt refers to BoB as "they," right? You're not fooling anyone. Says an anonymous coward. I hope you are D2 or RedSwarm alt ... nice to see them having this kind of intel.
Fitz Chivalry eXceed Inc.	Posted - 2007.02.14 12:03:00 - [94] Firstly, I "hate" BoB. With that said, this situation reminds me of a well known saying: ôAn alcoholic is someone you donÆt like who drinks as much as you do.ö ù Dylan Thomas. EVERY alliance cheats (by which I mean breaches the EULA) to some degree or another. (Almost) None of us know how we would react if we were presented with the same opportunities as BoB had, we might like to think we wouldnt take them but its easy to think that until you are faced with the temptation. Now I do think that BoB have brought a lot of this on themselves with their forum presence but, seriously, there aer bigger things in life to get worked up about than this. If it gives you a raison d'etre to go after BoB then more power to you but dont give in to hate, that way the dark side lies. There is bound to be a few people saying "well i would never..." etc.
Le Cardinal ECP Rogues Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.02.14 12:09:00 - [95] Quote: I'm not on BOB's side when it comes to EVE warfare. I am on the otherside. I'm biased when it comes to killin gthem. I want them dead (lol). However this still does not change the fact that I'm unbiased when it comes to other aspects than EVE-warfare (combat/pvp). I am not on BoB's side either in Warfare (not in anything i must add^^). I am on the other side, Im biased when it comes to killing them. I want them dead () However this still dont change the fact that im unbiased when it comes to other aspects than eve-warfare (combat/pvp). Cept that i dont like their behaviour on forum, and believe this is why half of eve-universe is currently attacking them.
DARKKK	Posted - 2007.02.14 12:19:00 - [96] Originally by: Le Cardinal Quote: I'm not on BOB's side when it comes to EVE warfare. I am on the otherside. I'm biased when it comes to killin gthem. I want them dead (lol). However this still does not change the fact that I'm unbiased when it comes to other aspects than EVE-warfare (combat/pvp). I am not on BoB's side either in Warfare (not in anything i must add^^). I am on the other side, Im biased when it comes to killing them. I want them dead () However this still dont change the fact that im unbiased when it comes to other aspects than eve-warfare (combat/pvp). Cept that i dont like their behaviour on forum, and believe this is why half of eve-universe is currently attacking them. So it wasn't 5. or ATUK alts mining in Syndicate, after all ?
Kaeten Hybrid Syndicate Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.14 12:21:00 - [97] Originally by: Le Cardinal Quote: I'm not on BOB's side when it comes to EVE warfare. I am on the otherside. I'm biased when it comes to killin gthem. I want them dead (lol). However this still does not change the fact that I'm unbiased when it comes to other aspects than EVE-warfare (combat/pvp). I am not on BoB's side either in Warfare (not in anything i must add^^). I am on the other side, Im biased when it comes to killing them. I want them dead () However this still dont change the fact that im unbiased when it comes to other aspects than eve-warfare (combat/pvp). Cept that i dont like their behaviour on forum, and believe this is why half of eve-universe is currently attacking them. Tbh that would actully make sense. There are also people that just don't lie kthme because they, win(?) all of the time. People have their reasons. Also as said they want people ot attack them so I mean they must be having a blast atm. Pwnage PvP Recruitment \m/ Metal Head \m/
Le Cardinal ECP Rogues Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.02.14 12:36:00 - [98] Originally by: Kaeten Originally by: Le Cardinal Quote: I'm not on BOB's side when it comes to EVE warfare. I am on the otherside. I'm biased when it comes to killin gthem. I want them dead (lol). However this still does not change the fact that I'm unbiased when it comes to other aspects than EVE-warfare (combat/pvp). I am not on BoB's side either in Warfare (not in anything i must add^^). I am on the other side, Im biased when it comes to killing them. I want them dead () However this still dont change the fact that im unbiased when it comes to other aspects than eve-warfare (combat/pvp). Cept that i dont like their behaviour on forum, and believe this is why half of eve-universe is currently attacking them. Tbh that would actully make sense. There are also people that just don't lie kthme because they, win(?) all of the time. People have their reasons. Also as said they want people ot attack them so I mean they must be having a blast atm. BoB are usually a fearsome adversary in fleetbattles, granted. But they can blow up like the rest of us. And in smaller gangs they arent more scary than other corps/alliances. I can name lots of corps that i think is better than bob at this. Damnit, i need to do some work also. Papers are stockpiling here
Altar Mei Solstice Systems Development Concourse SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.14 12:50:00 - [99] Originally by: MironCosszma ppl please stop the bull**** with bob GM`s ...it was one and to be honest he didnt represent the entire BoB alliance . Dont judge 1000 man from an action who belong to only 1 who actualy wasnt a CEO or High command of anny bob corporation . Do you realy think that the bob leadership would pass up smearing their current war target with this info if the roles were reversed? You can take the so called morale high ground but it gets you nowhere.

Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2007.02.14 12:59:00 - [100] Cleaned up the thread, Please keep this on topic that is respect / lack of respect for bob, and not about the dev misconduct, its walking a fine line at the moment which is fine but i will lock it if i feel its going off topic. - Thanks Hutch. ____ forum rules \| Email us \| Wikipedia Entry They call me "Hutch" because my name is well... long


Jet Max Gallente Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.14 13:01:00 - [101] Edited by: Jet Max on 14/02/2007 12:58:31 Originally by: Fitz Chivalry (Almost*) None of us know how we would react if we were presented with the same opportunities as BoB had, we might like to think we wouldnt take them but its easy to think that until you are faced with the temptation. I know how i would react, and i am not even gona lie - I would take every T2 BPO and asked for more. Everyone would, yes EVERYONE. Look whats happening on forums "Omfg why i am not getting T2 BPO", "T2 ships too expencive DEVS should look and fix [cos i dont have T2 BPO]", "T2 lottery needs fixing!!11eleven [cos i dont have a single T2 BPO]". And anyways i dont think its cheating its just being an oportunist
Crellion Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2007.02.14 13:10:00 - [102] Please can you all stop with the ******* BoB threads and try to do something in game you can be proud of? Atm its like: 30 mins in game, diealot, come to forums post anti bob for 3 hours, another 30 mins in game, diealot, back here for a BoB thread and pruning 2 hours, back to game for 20 mins pvp - kill a kestrel 1v30 \o/, back to forums make a post about it, General forum trolling for 6 hours, time for bed. ^ that's the average you in this game LOL get a grip. No I am not talking about you Kaeten you are a good dude you just have a broken ally ticker and should fix it asap. Arguably my opinions represent to an extent the opinions of my alliance and in particular circumstances give rise to a valid "casus belli" claim.
UbaH n00b Whoregasm	Posted - 2007.02.14 13:13:00 - [103] Originally by: Jet Max Edited by: Jet Max on 14/02/2007 12:58:31 Originally by: Fitz Chivalry (Almost) None of us know how we would react if we were presented with the same opportunities as BoB had, we might like to think we wouldnt take them but its easy to think that until you are faced with the temptation. I know how i would react, and i am not even gona lie - I would take every T2 BPO and asked for more. Everyone would, yes EVERYONE. Look whats happening on forums "Omfg why i am not getting T2 BPO", "T2 ships too expencive DEVS should look and fix [cos i dont have T2 BPO]", "T2 lottery needs fixing!!11eleven [cos i dont have a single T2 BPO]". And anyways i dont think its cheating its just being an oportunist Not many people would admit to that unfortunately. And while people publicly berate BoB for being cheats, whether are or they're not, they were just presented with an oppurtunity everyone would take up. Now I think the silence BoB seem to be having on the forums is interesting and i'm wondering the reason; forum-fu was one of their skill V's - i wonder if they've been shushed because right now it will only serve to stoke the rage inside of everyone. Interesting times. I bet BoB are chomping at the bit to reply to some of these posts, especially when at the moment a whack of forumfu could probably help their campaign against the number of corps/alliances against them. Originally by:* Avon I think it is a little unfair to expect CCP to fix the internet.
Le Cardinal ECP Rogues Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.02.14 13:16:00 - [104] Originally by: Crellion Please can you all stop with the ******* BoB threads and try to do something in game you can be proud of? Atm its like: 30 mins in game, diealot, come to forums post anti bob for 3 hours, another 30 mins in game, diealot, back here for a BoB thread and pruning 2 hours, back to game for 20 mins pvp - kill a kestrel 1v30 \o/, back to forums make a post about it, General forum trolling for 6 hours, time for bed. ^ that's the average you in this game LOL get a grip. No I am not talking about you Kaeten you are a good dude you just have a broken ally ticker and should fix it asap. Hey! Thats a low blow. I am at work
Kaeten Hybrid Syndicate Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.14 13:17:00 - [105] Originally by: Logan Feynman Originally by: Anonymous Coward Originally by: Xelphior i see every reason. regardless of methods they have built an empire in game and a Reputation for being one of the best pvp groups about. They are on a forum ban, and they are following it they are putting up with utter rubbish off the forums and general discrimination and stupid namecalling. its stupid, how bout we just Stfu about them and get on with it huh You realize how incredibly stupid it looks when a COIN alt refers to BoB as "they," right? You're not fooling anyone. Says an anonymous coward. I hope you are D2 or RedSwarm alt ... nice to see them having this kind of intel. I'm not anonymous. Care to explain how your not their alt corp(I've always known yous are a BOB industrial corp). Pwnage PvP Recruitment \m/ Metal Head \m/
elohllird Gallente Constructive Influence	Posted - 2007.02.14 13:19:00 - [106] Originally by: Why'dyou HitMe Originally by: elohllird more smack... So the no posting rule is just for BOB mains,alts and pets can post at will I see. Oh and a dog has teeth too, he barks alot but still sits when his owner orders. So are you an alt, if not can you fetch? Im not ANTI-BOB I just dont like you... Nah, nevermind , I dont like BOD either. I'm a Main, fancy a hug
Sinlare Gallente Garoun Investment Bank	Posted - 2007.02.14 13:34:00 - [107] Originally by: The Mittani Originally by: Xelphior you have to respect the other point of view, and what if your positions were reversed, what if a member of your corp was found cheating and then You, not just you alliance but YOU because your in said alliance were branded a cheater yet you had nothing to do with it. See things objectivly and dont be too quick to start pointing fingers, its never good Judging the Whole of a group by a minority is it? huh Yeah, it really sucks when people wave a flag of out-of-game moral righteousness as an excuse for an in-game war. I'm so glad you little BoD pets have come to see my side of things. Ah yes, good old Mittani, while you're not off petting your cat you're spinning the this and thats all around aren't you. I have this distinct memory of supportive posts about 'the old' incident coming from your fellow alliance members. Frankly, i don't see people do that about the current incident. So no, it's not the same.
The Hooch Minmatar Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.14 13:37:00 - [108] Quote: Even though BOB did have ONE cheater Yes just one, that they all benefitted from, one that could make or break things. Then had the nads to declare to the whole of Eve how great they were. Sure, maybe the average grunt is an alright player, but they follow a corrupt leadership that knows the depth of thier falsehoods. It's a frigg'n game, if you need to do what they have done to get were they are whats the point of even playing?
JP Moregain Gallente EVE Reserve Bank	Posted - 2007.02.14 15:38:00 - [109] Edited by: JP Moregain on 14/02/2007 15:37:08 Edited by: JP Moregain on 14/02/2007 15:35:10 Originally by: The Hooch Yes just one, that they all benefitted from, one that could make or break things. Then had the nads to declare to the whole of Eve how great they were. Sure, maybe the average grunt is an alright player, but they follow a corrupt leadership that knows the depth of thier falsehoods. It's a frigg'n game, if you need to do what they have done to get were they are whats the point of even playing? This is just funny, there was one decent ship BP (sabre?) and one decent Ammo BP (spike L? sorry going from memory)the rest were pretty worthless from a fleet combat standpoint. My guess is that these were insignificant/meaningless relative to the t-2 BPO collection that BoB has likely amassed over the years. The 'make or break' statement is pretty laughable. As far as why the Bobsters are not posting in general (no that are not banned by CCP, as you can see a few posts here or there in non-political threads) my guess is it is a combination of 2 things: 1) They actually want the bulk to EvE to get worked up and bring some pew pew to them, as this is probably their best chance ever to have a real chance to lose and thus get some real excitement. The worst thing that can happen to them in this game is to have no viable opponents... 2) Many bob-haters have already made up their collective 'minds' that all BoB are evil cheaters and thus anything that gets posted BoB will inevitably deteriorate into: "yeah but you cheat!" retorts... Whats the point? Regards, JP http://www.evereserve.com
Limlox Caldari B4N3	Posted - 2007.02.14 15:48:00 - [110] Originally by: UbaH n00b Originally by: Jet Max Edited by: Jet Max on 14/02/2007 12:58:31 Originally by: Fitz Chivalry (Almost*) None of us know how we would react if we were presented with the same opportunities as BoB had, we might like to think we wouldnt take them but its easy to think that until you are faced with the temptation. I know how i would react, and i am not even gona lie - I would take every T2 BPO and asked for more. Everyone would, yes EVERYONE. Look whats happening on forums "Omfg why i am not getting T2 BPO", "T2 ships too expencive DEVS should look and fix [cos i dont have T2 BPO]", "T2 lottery needs fixing!!11eleven [cos i dont have a single T2 BPO]". And anyways i dont think its cheating its just being an oportunist Not many people would admit to that unfortunately. And while people publicly berate BoB for being cheats, whether are or they're not, they were just presented with an oppurtunity everyone would take up. Don't tarnish everyone with the same brush. Personally, i'd rather win fairly and think the whole thing disgusting. But I don't blame the BoB members themselves, but the leadership should have stomped on it long ago.

Ayrine Elenthiel	Posted - 2007.02.14 15:56:00 - [111] Originally by: JP Moregain Edited by: JP Moregain on 14/02/2007 15:48:06 edited for typos Originally by: The Hooch Yes just one, that they all benefitted from, one that could make or break things. Then had the nads to declare to the whole of Eve how great they were. Sure, maybe the average grunt is an alright player, but they follow a corrupt leadership that knows the depth of thier falsehoods. It's a frigg'n game, if you need to do what they have done to get were they are whats the point of even playing? This is just funny, there was one decent ship BP (Sabre?) and one decent ammo BP (Spike L?, sorry going from memory)the rest were pretty worthless from a fleet combat standpoint. My guess is that these were insignificant/meaningless relative to the t-2 BPO collection that BoB has likely amassed over the years. The 'make or break' statement is pretty laughable. As far as why the BoBsters are not posting in general (no they are not banned by CCP, as you can see a few posts here or there in non-political threads) my guess is it is a combination of 2 things: 1) They actually want the bulk of EvE to get worked up and bring some pew pew to them, as this is probably their best chance ever to have a real chance to lose and thus get some excitement. The worst thing that can happen to them in this game is to have no viable opponents... 2) Many bob-haters have already made up their collective 'minds' that all BoB are 'evil cheaters' and thus anything that gets posted by BoB will inevitably deteriorate into "yeah, but you cheat!" retorts... So what's the point? Regards, JP I agree and I think most sane people agree as well, that these BPO's didn't win BoB the status they have (positive and negative). The problem here is that a) The harpies have something to dig their claws in and rub it into the wounds with a "In-Your-Face" attitude. b) Anything BoB has or will achieve will have a slight dent, a light tarnish for most of the people. It's just...natural, to be thinking along the lines of "They did it once, they can do it again". c) Lots of trolling because there's a chance. Anyway, the topic has been discussed enough, no? Move along, nothing new to see. P.S.: My personal views/opinions, not that of my Corporation and/or Alliance.
Kalmanaka The Graduates Ivy League	Posted - 2007.02.14 16:12:00 - [112] Please God make it stop.... Linkage mirror: Linkage
Tundaar Minmatar Eve Defence Force	Posted - 2007.02.14 16:21:00 - [113] Originally by: Xelphior They are on a forum ban, and they are following it they are putting up with utter rubbish off the forums and general discrimination and stupid namecalling. its stupid, how bout we just Stfu about them and get on with it huh Lol - looks like BoB getting some of their own medicine back after their forum attacks on ASCN and how the ASCN leadership had to gag their members etc etc etc. (Of course it was OK then for BoB to post from the internal ASCN forums - it would be nice if we could see what is happening now on the BoB forums) - Very lucky for them that rule was changed I think BoB themselves said that the forums are a legitimate form of warfare and that they would use it ruthlessly, they admitted that they respect no-one (One of their leaders posts) and also that they are in to WIN by any means. IMO they deserve the grief they are getting now - it's simply the rest of the Eve universe playing by BoB's rules. Please note that the opinions expressed here are my own and may not relect that of my corp, alliance, friends, family, pets or sentient vehicles.
Jacque Custeau Knights of the Minmatar Republic	Posted - 2007.02.14 16:27:00 - [114] Oh my god. I did not read the OP but seriously, whiskey tango foxtrot. What Is wrong with you people? Why do we need a new thread on BoB everyday. I don't care if you love them, hate them....etc. Someone stop the madness! -------------------
zykerx Pegasus Mining and Securities R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.02.14 16:48:00 - [115] wel if they rly wanted all eve to fight them etc to be outnumbered alot etc as some people stated , then why set lv blue, why have all the slave alliances to help them they do want targets but not tomuch, and that bpo confession is only because a player foundout, what else he did they will never say, intel can be worth more then t2 bpo''s
welsh wizard 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.02.14 16:56:00 - [116] If they keep this forum silence up and come out on top over the next few months I'll concede that they're truly deserving of everything they've achieved.
Plim Gallente Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2007.02.14 17:00:00 - [117] Originally by: welsh wizard If they keep this forum silence up and come out on top over the next few months I'll concede that they're truly deserving of everything they've achieved. No, they should have started to STFU about 2 years ago welsh. ----------------- Originally by: BoB forum PR Toxic sludge is good for you.

Kreul Intentions Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2007.02.14 17:04:00 - [118] Thread has been cleaned and continues to go downhill in flames. Lockage. forum rules \| [email protected]



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