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Kaeten Hybrid Syndicate Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.13 21:51:00 - [1] Let me be straight about my position. I'm against BOB. I shoot them, I loot their loot. I'm in this war against them. This post may seem like I luvb BOB but I still like their ships to go BOOM. And because they drop good loot. However this won't change my stance on BOB or anyone else in the game ever. I'd like to think I'm a VERY unbiased person. I like to view things from all angles and agree/disagree when anything comes up. Back to the post now. Even though BOB did have ONE cheater in them I'd still ike to say they have my respect. BOB have been bashed and bruised without being able to post somesort of defence(don't ppl go on about that they post ** because everyone posts on these forums, even YOU). I flew with them for an amazing 6 months before. I'd like to say they've always been a laugh and always BROUGHT it unlike some people. I'd also like to say I haven't seen one BOB member post here and that truly shows that they are all willing to follow orders, even though I KNOW (forum *s lol) all of the usual forum warriors from BOB ARE looking on the forum at this moment jsut waiting for the order to post. Again no ***** flaming. I'm shooting BOB. Hopefully going to be there when(if lol) they get kicked out of their regions yadayada (tbh I've been waiting for a massive EVE war because I missed CA vs. ALL war, so I don't care who wins (hopefully us tough) I just want to shoot things and have a fight!) Remember people this is a game... Pwnage PvP Recruitment \m/ Metal Head \m/
sakana Purgatorial Janitors Inc.	Posted - 2007.02.13 22:00:00 - [2] Edited by: sakana on 13/02/2007 21:59:41 first i agree tbh, BoB are the bad guys in relation to my alliance, but i think everyone jumping on the "i hate bob" "band of developers" bandwagon is pretty lame. they have achieved a lot as an alliance, regardless of what we now know.... but i still wanna kill em all ------------
sakana Purgatorial Janitors Inc.	Posted - 2007.02.13 22:00:00 - [3] Edited by: sakana on 13/02/2007 21:59:41 first i agree tbh, BoB are the bad guys in relation to my alliance, but i think everyone jumping on the "i hate bob" "band of developers" bandwagon is pretty lame. they have achieved a lot as an alliance, regardless of what we now know.... but i still wanna kill em all ------------
Napolie Gallente Hybrid Syndicate Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.13 22:02:00 - [4] Second!
Napolie Gallente Hybrid Syndicate Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.13 22:02:00 - [5] Edited by: Napolie on 13/02/2007 22:14:54 Second! tbh this man speaks the truth
Kaleeb S.Y.N.D.R.O.M.E.	Posted - 2007.02.13 22:06:00 - [6] Anyone would think your trying to get back in to bob kaeten (j/k)
Cptn Chaos Gallente Dead Eagle North Star Confederation	Posted - 2007.02.13 22:06:00 - [7] Originally by: Kaeten Even though BOB did have ONE cheater in them I'd still ike to say they have my respect. BOB have been bashed and bruised without being able to post somesort of defence(don't ppl go on about that they post ** because everyone posts ** on these forums, even YOU). maybe nitpicking, but thats one cheater who got caught, that doesnt mean it was the only one. anyways the dmg is done, there is a c.rack in their image they prolly never gonna get fixed again even tho the majority of bob are most likely honest players. lets hope the hate threads are gonna stop soonish.
Kaleeb S.Y.N.D.R.O.M.E.	Posted - 2007.02.13 22:06:00 - [8] Anyone would think your trying to get back in to bob kaeten (j/k)
Cptn Chaos Gallente Dead Eagle North Star Confederation	Posted - 2007.02.13 22:06:00 - [9] Originally by: Kaeten Even though BOB did have ONE cheater in them I'd still ike to say they have my respect. BOB have been bashed and bruised without being able to post somesort of defence(don't ppl go on about that they post ** because everyone posts ** on these forums, even YOU). maybe nitpicking, but thats one cheater who got caught, that doesnt mean it was the only one. anyways the dmg is done, there is a c.rack in their image they prolly never gonna get fixed again even tho the majority of bob are most likely honest players. lets hope the hate threads are gonna stop soonish.
Kaeten Hybrid Syndicate Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.13 22:08:00 - [10] Originally by: Kaleeb Anyone would think your trying to get back in to bob kaeten (j/k) lol. I'm sorry, I left BOB for many reasons. One being that I wanted to be a CEO. Have a smaller based corp doing whatever we want. Also there were some other things I left for, however I'm not comfortable discussing such matters here. Pwnage PvP Recruitment \m/ Metal Head \m/
Kaeten Hybrid Syndicate Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.13 22:08:00 - [11] Originally by: Kaleeb Anyone would think your trying to get back in to bob kaeten (j/k) lol. I'm sorry, I left BOB for many reasons. One being that I wanted to be a CEO. Have a smaller based corp doing whatever we want. Also there were some other things I left for, however I'm not comfortable discussing such matters here. Pwnage PvP Recruitment \m/ Metal Head \m/
Crucifier BURN EDEN GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.02.13 22:09:00 - [12] I dont give a **** about the dev incident. All i want is them to die. ------
Crucifier BURN EDEN GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.02.13 22:09:00 - [13] I dont give a **** about the dev incident. All i want is them to die. ------
Kaeten Hybrid Syndicate Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.13 22:12:00 - [14] Originally by: Cptn Chaos Originally by: Kaeten Even though BOB did have ONE cheater in them I'd still ike to say they have my respect. BOB have been bashed and bruised without being able to post somesort of defence(don't ppl go on about that they post ** because everyone posts ** on these forums, even YOU). maybe nitpicking, but thats one cheater who got caught, that doesnt mean it was the only one. anyways the dmg is done, there is a c.rack in their image they prolly never gonna get fixed again even tho the majority of bob are most likely honest players. lets hope the hate threads are gonna stop soonish. Tbh if it is all a cover up and CCP are protecting BOB, what can we do? I belive that there was only 1 cheater however as said what can we do if there were more. Nothing. Thier image is *****ed depending on who knew about it. If BOB knew nothing of that cheater how could they bar the damage? An appology would probably fix that as they admit feeling disgusted at having a cheat (like blacklights blog. I read about him saying he was disapointed etc.). As you said damage has bee ndone, let's get back to EVE. And lets hope CCP input some system that will nto allow this ot ever happen again(I'm not hoping, I'm actully expecting soemthing...). Pwnage PvP Recruitment \m/ Metal Head \m/
Kaeten Hybrid Syndicate Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.13 22:13:00 - [15] Originally by: Crucifier I dont give a **** about the dev incident. All i want is them to die. That's the spirit! lol Pwnage PvP Recruitment \m/ Metal Head \m/
Xelphior Caldari Constructive Influence	Posted - 2007.02.13 22:19:00 - [16] you have to respect the other point of view, and what if your positions were reversed, what if a member of your corp was found cheating and then You, not just you alliance but YOU because your in said alliance were branded a cheater yet you had nothing to do with it. See things objectivly and dont be too quick to start pointing fingers, its never good Judging the Whole of a group by a minority is it? huh
The Mittani GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.02.13 22:21:00 - [17] Originally by: Xelphior you have to respect the other point of view, and what if your positions were reversed, what if a member of your corp was found cheating and then You, not just you alliance but YOU because your in said alliance were branded a cheater yet you had nothing to do with it. See things objectivly and dont be too quick to start pointing fingers, its never good Judging the Whole of a group by a minority is it? huh Yeah, it really sucks when people wave a flag of out-of-game moral righteousness as an excuse for an in-game war. I'm so glad you little BoD pets have come to see my side of things.
Eamz Finite Horizon	Posted - 2007.02.13 22:21:00 - [18] i think the reason they arent speaking is that they just want it to die down. aka no more threads.
Xelphior Caldari Constructive Influence	Posted - 2007.02.13 22:24:00 - [19] Originally by: The Mittani Originally by: Xelphior you have to respect the other point of view, and what if your positions were reversed, what if a member of your corp was found cheating and then You, not just you alliance but YOU because your in said alliance were branded a cheater yet you had nothing to do with it. See things objectivly and dont be too quick to start pointing fingers, its never good Judging the Whole of a group by a minority is it? huh Yeah, it really sucks when people wave a flag of out-of-game moral righteousness as an excuse for an in-game war. I'm so glad you little BoD pets have come to see my side of things. BoB ... Dont go all; to quote "out-of-game moral righteousness its the general consensous tbfh, and im no pet, this pet has teeth
Shizuko Caldari E X O D U S	Posted - 2007.02.13 22:25:00 - [20] I see no reason to respect them frankly.
Kaeten Hybrid Syndicate Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.13 22:26:00 - [21] Originally by: Xelphior you have to respect the other point of view, and what if your positions were reversed, what if a member of your corp was found cheating and then You, not just you alliance but YOU because your in said alliance were branded a cheater yet you had nothing to do with it. See things objectivly and dont be too quick to start pointing fingers, its never good Judging the Whole of a group by a minority is it? huh I said that in the post above were the guy said if there are more. I would personally apologize on behalf of my corporation and allince to the rest of the game. It's like a CA team. If 1 uses wallhack (without the others knowing) how would you the public nkow that they didnSt all know? BOB members do know this. It would be comforting to me though that they show they also feel disgusted at this (ok maybe they don't need to apologize but just, "Man, I'm disapointed at that guy".). Pwnage PvP Recruitment \m/ Metal Head \m/
The Mittani GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.02.13 22:26:00 - [22] Originally by: Xelphior Yeah, it really sucks when people wave a flag of out-of-game moral righteousness as an excuse for an in-game war. I'm so glad you little BoD pets have come to see my side of things. BoB ... Dont go all; to quote "out-of-game moral righteousness its the general consensous tbfh, and im no pet, this pet has teeth You fail to appreciate the historical irony of the situation we find ourselves in, I fear.
Vitoris Stinger Squad	Posted - 2007.02.13 22:27:00 - [23] I am shedding emo tears for BoD. Give me a ***** break tbh. When they bash the out of everyone else I dont see these types of post. They ** up let them deal with it or ** off.
Xelphior Caldari Constructive Influence	Posted - 2007.02.13 22:27:00 - [24] Originally by: ****uko I see no reason to respect them frankly. i see every reason. regardless of methods they have built an empire in game and a Reputation for being one of the best pvp groups about. They are on a forum ban, and they are following it they are putting up with utter rubbish off the forums and general discrimination and stupid namecalling. its stupid, how bout we just Stfu about them and get on with it huh
Kaeten Hybrid Syndicate Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.13 22:27:00 - [25] Originally by: Eamz i think the reason they arent speaking is that they just want it to die down. aka no more threads. Still doesn't matter. They still aren't posting are they. Which means they listen. Pwnage PvP Recruitment \m/ Metal Head \m/
Kaeten Hybrid Syndicate Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.13 22:28:00 - [26] Originally by: ****uko I see no reason to respect them frankly. Could you explain why? Pwnage PvP Recruitment \m/ Metal Head \m/
Kaeten Hybrid Syndicate Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.13 22:30:00 - [27] Originally by: Xelphior Originally by: ****uko I see no reason to respect them frankly. i see every reason. regardless of methods they have built an empire in game and a Reputation for being one of the best pvp groups about. They are on a forum ban, and they are following it they are putting up with utter rubbish off the forums and general discrimination and stupid namecalling. its stupid, how bout we just Stfu about them and get on with it huh Can you stop flaming, you may not think you are but your launguage suggests it. BOB also call other people names so your pointing the finger back at BOB again. Pwnage PvP Recruitment \m/ Metal Head \m/
Shamis Orzoz Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.02.13 22:32:00 - [28] Bob definitely are skilled players. I respect their abilities. I don't respect their arrogance, among other things... Do Not Discuss Moderation - hutch
Isonkon Serikain Gallente Band of Builders Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.02.13 22:40:00 - [29] Originally by: Crucifier I dont give a **** about the dev incident. All i want is them to die. BOB aready won the class war, by a long margin, thanks to the deluge of silly smack and hate posts... And to those of you who would pat yourselves on the back IF you were to beat BoB down, remember you a far more numerous than they are, so good job and way to keep it sportmanly. Pity the fool
crice Caldari CRICE Corporation Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.13 22:51:00 - [30] Originally by: Shamis Orzoz Bob definitely are skilled players. I respect their abilities. I don't respect their arrogance, among other things... Honest and well said. I respect winners not whiners. BoB has earned their place, just like the Old Original Curse Alliance had. They earned a place in history. Now if you could do something that was amazing and took real leadership and logistics and dedication, you may have other peoples respect. You sure as hell arent going to get respect posting on these forums, carrier kills or "we pwn you stuff". Your the evil and you will be purged. crice
Isonkon Serikain Gallente Band of Builders Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.02.13 22:53:00 - [31] Originally by: Stockarian I'm sorry, but if you think robert won the class war, all you have to do is look back a couple of months ago on these forums to see their true form. Every one of their posts I have had the misfortune of reading has been nothing but arrogance and e-peen. Class does not describe them in the least bit. At least they smack AFTER taking down their enemy, not before...ahem.. So yeah there's a bit more merit there, than what is going on now in the forums... Pity the fool
Kaeten Hybrid Syndicate Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.13 22:55:00 - [32] Originally by: **uko A Few reasons: Thier smack is undeniably the worst in the game, its got better since atuk calmed down a bit but they still stand out from the crowd. The shout about respecting people that stand up to them, but once those that stood up to them are dead the respect flies out the window. They merely dish out fake respect to those that oppose them in order to keep the slaughter of thier fleets going a little longer. They try to manipulate the eve population into thinking entities such as ASCN are stronger than D2 etc. Which is frankly just totaly rubbish, if ASCN were thier greatest challange, where are RAGOONTCF hammering the out of them in comparison to the first weeks of the ASCN war? Also, Dice, while winning many fights in the north, also got spanked in a few. I couldnt name an ASCN fleet battle win. Then theres the cheating. Whether you like it or not, this recent debockle was not an isolated event, plenty more corruption will have and probly still is going on in bob. Whether it be hints on whats to come in eve or fresh new spawned BPO's. And finally, BoB play this game asif it is real life, corruption and poor leadership in everyone elses alliances is absolutely unforgiveable, yet when it is in thier own its excuseable. Garunteed, if this Dev scandle would have gone on in D2, BOB would be all over the forums right now, destroying D2 and CCP from every single angle possible. Yet they act like the bullied school child when its happens to them. Forum ban..... More like a way to stop thier own members showing thier alliance up even more. Respect for bringing it? It is actually a game, and they have what it takes to "bring it". Other alliance dont like to just run into bob and die, because, even though it is a game, people still enjoy WINNING. BoB only "bring it" when they know they can win, which is obviously most of the time, every time they lose is because they **** it up. I read this post and I think of it comming from a BOB member this time. You know what I get my head. A near mirror image. Ofc BOB do/say things that are wrong/inaccurate. It's apart of their game just like what your saying here. Diffrence here though is that I'm unbiased while your not. Pwnage PvP Recruitment \m/ Metal Head \m/
Kaeten Hybrid Syndicate Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.13 22:57:00 - [33] Originally by: Stockarian I'm sorry, but if you think robert won the class war, all you have to do is look back a couple of months ago on these forums to see their true form. Every one of their posts I have had the misfortune of reading has been nothing but arrogance and e-peen. Class does not describe them in the least bit. That's the biggest problems with people that don't listen and form proper posts. It becomes an E-PEEN contest, those are biased posters though. We'll never get rid of em though. And tbh, if everyoen was unbiased these forusm would be pretty dull. Pwnage PvP Recruitment \m/ Metal Head \m/
Shizuko Caldari E X O D U S	Posted - 2007.02.13 22:59:00 - [34] No1 is unbias mate.
Stockarian eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.02.13 22:59:00 - [35] Originally by: Isonkon Serikain Originally by: Stockarian I'm sorry, but if you think robert won the class war, all you have to do is look back a couple of months ago on these forums to see their true form. Every one of their posts I have had the misfortune of reading has been nothing but arrogance and e-peen. Class does not describe them in the least bit. At least they smack AFTER taking down their enemy, not before...ahem.. So yeah there's a bit more merit there, than what is going on now in the forums... Smack, before, during or after, does not, and will never, equal class. To save time, why don't you avoid the facts and get right to the spin.
Kaeten Hybrid Syndicate Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.13 23:03:00 - [36] Edited by: Kaeten on 13/02/2007 22:59:51 Originally by: Isonkon Serikain Originally by: Kaeten Originally by: Isonkon Serikain Originally by: Crucifier I dont give a **** about the dev incident. All i want is them to die. BOB aready won the class war, by a long margin, thanks to the deluge of silly smack and hate posts... And to those of you who would pat yourselves on the back IF you were to beat BoB down, remember you a far more numerous than they are, so good job and way to keep it sportmanly. i don't know how many times I've said this. We arenSt only fighting bob. BOB(and rest) also say numbers don't matter, it's skill. So your point is pretty irrelevent. But you seem to believe numbers matter enough to beat skill, otherwise, why are you uniting against them? Because thats what BoB and co said. I never once said. Our side says oppisite etc. (I think skill>numbers thats just me). So it's a matter of own opionion here. Pwnage PvP Recruitment \m/ Metal Head \m/
The Mittani GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.02.13 23:04:00 - [37] The ultimate question about whether BoD should be respected or not: So what? Only a fool thinks that honor and respect make an atom's worth of difference in the ugly realities of deep 0.0 politics. Realpolitik cares nothing for these sentimental fripperies.
Chaomos Skynard The Flaming Sideburn's	Posted - 2007.02.13 23:05:00 - [38] Respect Kaeten on the post. I know a lot of guys in BoB and I can assure you none of them would cheat. They can b arrogant as an alliance but when you have been winning for so long it is an easy trap to fall into. We have a relationship with TCF and TNT so perhaps will find ourselves in that camp(CEO decision) but whoever we join, just want some pew pew and a bit of a laugh. Don't get why so many peeps get wound up so much, as has already been stated this is just a game. However I hope this does reduce some of the BoB postings slagging everyone off. That did include CA recently if I remember rightly. Just fight each other and enjoy your victories. Look forward to some decent quality combat reports from both sides.
Abye SniggWaffe Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.02.13 23:07:00 - [39] Funny that one BoB fleet fitting demanded passive targeters, and these aren't buggy at all ___ Inappropriate signature. Please do not use this signature. Email us for more information -Eldo ([email protected])
Kaeten Hybrid Syndicate Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.13 23:08:00 - [40] Originally by: ****uko No1 is unbias mate. Adn you would know this because your not? Every single psot made here has had me aswering them back. I eaither 1) admit I was wrong, change my statement or 2)prove my point is valid. Pwnage PvP Recruitment \m/ Metal Head \m/
Superbus Maximus Gallente Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.02.13 23:09:00 - [41] Originally by: crice Originally by: Shamis Orzoz Bob definitely are skilled players. I respect their abilities. I don't respect their arrogance, among other things... Honest and well said. I respect winners not whiners. BoB has earned their place, just like the Old Original Curse Alliance had. They earned a place in history. Now if you could do something that was amazing and took real leadership and logistics and dedication, you may have other peoples respect. You sure as hell arent going to get respect posting on these forums, carrier kills or "we pwn you stuff". Your the evil and you will be purged. crice I've allways liked fighting against LV and BoB. You guys allways brought good fights lets hope to see some more.
Kaeten Hybrid Syndicate Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.13 23:11:00 - [42] Off t obed, will countinue my seek for unbiased justice tommorow. Sleep well and noone in gods name will turn this into a flamefest on my behalf. Thank you. Pwnage PvP Recruitment \m/ Metal Head \m/
Prydeless Vengeance of the Fallen Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.13 23:14:00 - [43] BoB gets no respect from me... Disclaimer: I am a God.
Ouroboron Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.02.13 23:17:00 - [44] Good thread. Respect should be given where it is due. For example, it's hard to not have respect for their propoganda machine that seemingly convinced most of the EVEO community that they had driven us from the game, after uselessly camping a gate for two weeks while most of were ratting and running missions 2 jumps away. Chowdown fights with honor.
Plutoinum German Cyberdome Corp Cult of War	Posted - 2007.02.13 23:24:00 - [45] Respect for the guys, who see it as what it should be, as a war against BoB, LV etc., maybe their most 'hated' enemy ingame, but not the war against devs/cheaters.
Blue Stratos Amarr BOOM - Gotcha	Posted - 2007.02.13 23:44:00 - [46] Originally by: Crucifier I dont give a **** about the dev incident. All i want is them to die. Exactly the comment id expect from a BE member, do you guys ever post anything that isnt abusive or hateful on these forums?
BuSHiDo ZiN GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.02.13 23:45:00 - [47] Originally by: Xelphior Originally by: The Mittani Originally by: Xelphior you have to respect the other point of view, and what if your positions were reversed, what if a member of your corp was found cheating and then You, not just you alliance but YOU because your in said alliance were branded a cheater yet you had nothing to do with it. See things objectivly and dont be too quick to start pointing fingers, its never good Judging the Whole of a group by a minority is it? huh Yeah, it really sucks when people wave a flag of out-of-game moral righteousness as an excuse for an in-game war. I'm so glad you little BoD pets have come to see my side of things. BoB ... Dont go all; to quote "out-of-game moral righteousness its the general consensous tbfh, and im no pet, this pet has teeth Careful, your cognitive dissonance is showing.
Thor Xian Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation	Posted - 2007.02.13 23:48:00 - [48] I can't say if I respect or do not respect BoB...not knowing just how much or little of their accomplishments were with or without CCP's direct or indirect involvement makes it hard to gauge them on that scale. Frankly, at this point I'm beginning to think CCP employed players should be limited to NPC corps. _________________________ ~Thor Xian, Material Defender "For all your Material Needs, Vertigo One." Got Alliance? Contact me ingame for alliance creation services.
Dinamita Tona Constructive Influence	Posted - 2007.02.13 23:56:00 - [49] Originally by: **uko A Few reasons: Thier smack is undeniably the worst in the game, its got better since atuk calmed down a bit but they still stand out from the crowd. The shout about respecting people that stand up to them, but once those that stood up to them are dead the respect flies out the window. They merely dish out fake respect to those that oppose them in order to keep the slaughter of thier fleets going a little longer. They try to manipulate the eve population into thinking entities such as ASCN are stronger than D2 etc. Which is frankly just totaly rubbish, if ASCN were thier greatest challange, where are RAGOONTCF hammering the out of them in comparison to the first weeks of the ASCN war? Also, Dice, while winning many fights in the north, also got spanked in a few. I couldnt name an ASCN fleet battle win. Then theres the cheating. Whether you like it or not, this recent debockle was not an isolated event, plenty more corruption will have and probly still is going on in bob. Whether it be hints on whats to come in eve or fresh new spawned BPO's. And finally, BoB play this game asif it is real life, corruption and poor leadership in everyone elses alliances is absolutely unforgiveable, yet when it is in thier own its excuseable. Garunteed, if this Dev scandle would have gone on in D2, BOB would be all over the forums right now, destroying D2 and CCP from every single angle possible. Yet they act like the bullied school child when its happens to them. Forum ban..... More like a way to stop thier own members showing thier alliance up even more. Respect for bringing it? It is actually a game, and they have what it takes to "bring it". Other alliance dont like to just run into bob and die, because, even though it is a game, people still enjoy WINNING. BoB only "bring it" when they know they can win, which is obviously most of the time, every time they lose is because they ** it up. - Thier smack is undeniably the worst in the game, its got better since atuk calmed down a bit but they still stand out from the crowd. Their smack is when they tell you that you suck because you suck. As for being worst in game, well i am aware none likes to be smacked down all the time, but some people just ask for it by their retarded comments and actions in the game. /me points at Goon comments on forums and in game... /me loled - The shout about respecting people that stand up to them, but once those that stood up to them are dead the respect flies out the window. They merely dish out fake respect to those that oppose them in order to keep the slaughter of thier fleets going a little longer. When you once get respect from BoB you always have it. Fake respect? Slaughter of their fleets? WTF? - They try to manipulate the eve population into thinking entities such as ASCN are stronger than D2 etc. Which is frankly just totaly rubbish, if ASCN were thier greatest challange, where are RAGOONTCF hammering the out of them in comparison to the first weeks of the ASCN war? Also, Dice, while winning many fights in the north, also got spanked in a few. I couldnt name an ASCN fleet battle win. They as any other member of EvE community have right on their opinion, in this case they have it more than you seeing they fought and disbanded D1 which reformed to D2, and that they fought Xetic, which reformed to ASCN which reformed... ah wait, which don't exist anymore. If you can say that RA and (ROFL) Goons are hammering ** out of BoB then i don't know dude you must have been on brain wash classes with Remedial. Maybe a visit to kill boards should fill up your deluded image of what is actually going on in the EvE right now. ASCN never won fleet battle because all of them was more or less even in numbers like maybe 20 or so + for ASCN which obviously show skill of BoB FCs and members isn't it? or you as great Arm Chair general know something rest of us don't? Mind sharing that knowledge?
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar Momentum. Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.02.14 00:02:00 - [50] Edited by: Flinx Evenstar on 14/02/2007 00:00:52 Originally by: Kaeten Even though BOB did have ONE cheater in them You mean ONE that has confesed...there are many more "suspects" ..but yes, respect to the BOB guys that are still trying to do their thing. Of course I want to see your ships blow up...but what I really want to see is BOB come out of this on the other side...with new command and better ethics. ( I really hope your forum monkeys have died ) Then you will gain the praise that you "may" deserve. We all know that there are some seriously sh1t hot BOB pvp'rs and FC's...and I feel their pain, when now, no matter what they do, they are tarnished. O7 to the BOB corps still out there fighting with honour. Edit: I can't spell Tears will stream down your face, when you lose something you can not replace
Graalum Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.02.14 00:04:00 - [51] Originally by: Isonkon Serikain Originally by: Kaeten Originally by: Isonkon Serikain Originally by: Crucifier I dont give a **** about the dev incident. All i want is them to die. BOB aready won the class war, by a long margin, thanks to the deluge of silly smack and hate posts... And to those of you who would pat yourselves on the back IF you were to beat BoB down, remember you a far more numerous than they are, so good job and way to keep it sportmanly. i don't know how many times I've said this. We arenSt only fighting bob. BOB(and rest) also say numbers don't matter, it's skill. So your point is pretty irrelevent. But you seem to believe numbers matter enough to beat skill, otherwise, why are you uniting against them? Collective disdain? BoB has made many enemies, people are lining up to fight this one ffs.
ElCholo Minmatar	Posted - 2007.02.14 00:06:00 - [52] Originally by: Isonkon Serikain Edited by: Isonkon Serikain on 13/02/2007 22:43:41 Originally by: Crucifier I dont give a **** about the dev incident. All i want is them to die. BOB aready won the class war, by a long margin, thanks to the deluge of silly smack and hate posts... And to those of you who would pat yourselves on the back IF you were to beat BoB down, remember you a far more numerous than they are, so good job and way to keep it sportmanly. No one will care or respect you more for having beaten the greatest pvp alliance in a war of attrition while outnumbering them... Not that you would hold respect and sportsmanship in high esteem. It is wholly apparent that many in the anti-BOB camp hold a grudge. I can think of many reasons why, after all... 1st - There is no 'sportsmanship' in war - want that, play golf. 2nd - Since most of the server is of the opinion BoB has the majority of the best pvp pilots and best equipped ships - it stands to reason the only way to beat them is through numbers. If numbers wins the war, so be it. 3rd - BoB and their arrogance and "bring it" stance to the rest of eve is an invitation to a mass pile on. It happens in every MMO sooner or later. The balloon has gone up - what the map looks like in the end is to be decided.
Dinamita Tona Constructive Influence	Posted - 2007.02.14 00:06:00 - [53] Originally by: **uko A Few reasons: Thier smack is undeniably the worst in the game, its got better since atuk calmed down a bit but they still stand out from the crowd. The shout about respecting people that stand up to them, but once those that stood up to them are dead the respect flies out the window. They merely dish out fake respect to those that oppose them in order to keep the slaughter of thier fleets going a little longer. They try to manipulate the eve population into thinking entities such as ASCN are stronger than D2 etc. Which is frankly just totaly rubbish, if ASCN were thier greatest challange, where are RAGOONTCF hammering the out of them in comparison to the first weeks of the ASCN war? Also, Dice, while winning many fights in the north, also got spanked in a few. I couldnt name an ASCN fleet battle win. Then theres the cheating. Whether you like it or not, this recent debockle was not an isolated event, plenty more corruption will have and probly still is going on in bob. Whether it be hints on whats to come in eve or fresh new spawned BPO's. And finally, BoB play this game asif it is real life, corruption and poor leadership in everyone elses alliances is absolutely unforgiveable, yet when it is in thier own its excuseable. Garunteed, if this Dev scandle would have gone on in D2, BOB would be all over the forums right now, destroying D2 and CCP from every single angle possible. Yet they act like the bullied school child when its happens to them. Forum ban..... More like a way to stop thier own members showing thier alliance up even more. Respect for bringing it? It is actually a game, and they have what it takes to "bring it". Other alliance dont like to just run into bob and die, because, even though it is a game, people still enjoy WINNING. BoB only "bring it" when they know they can win, which is obviously most of the time, every time they lose is because they ** it up. - Then theres the cheating. Whether you like it or not, this recent debockle was not an isolated event, plenty more corruption will have and probly still is going on in bob. Whether it be hints on whats to come in eve or fresh new spawned BPO's. Are you Molles alt to know was this isolated event and is there any more corruption in BoB? were you ever in BoB? I say your Corporation is cheaters as well for logging off inside dictor bubbles. D2 is cheaters for using hacking to gain IPs of people. RA is for selling isk on E Bay, Goons are also having devs in their alliance that supplies them with t1 frigates. - And finally, BoB play this game asif it is real life, corruption and poor leadership in everyone elses alliances is absolutely unforgiveable, yet when it is in thier own its excuseable. Garunteed, if this Dev scandle would have gone on in D2, BOB would be all over the forums right now, destroying D2 and CCP from every single angle possible. Yet they act like the bullied school child when its happens to them. Here you go again with how BoB players game? Are you in BoB? No? How do you know how they play game? Do you really think they care if Goons are corrupted or led in poor manner? Do you think they would be here after all they achieved as alliance if they are poorly led? If Dev scandal was in D2 there would be only BoB saying its wrong and not acceptable, same like they say for their own member, and rest of you ass licker's would defend mighty D2. I doubt there would be bandwagon to kill D2 because they cheated and oh our ego is so hurt that i will leave game now. - Forum ban..... More like a way to stop thier own members showing thier alliance up even more. Maybe, if you think about it a bit they don't wanna lower them selfs on 5 year olds level like people do in last week or so? /me points at so called Coalition forum ***s who fails to deliver in game and have urge to take it on forums because now they have right to beat BoB somehow. Honor to those who realize bigger picture. One in wich EvE is game.
MuthaTrucka Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp.	Posted - 2007.02.14 00:07:00 - [54] Originally by: Xelphior They are on a forum ban, and they are following it they are putting up with utter rubbish off the forums and general discrimination and stupid namecalling. its stupid, how bout we just Stfu about them and get on with it huh Highly Ironic that they Belittled ASCN Leadership for instituting a Forum ban while saying BoB would never do that......... --------------- Don't Call me a Carebear, I don't really care about much at all.
Limlox Caldari B4N3	Posted - 2007.02.14 00:08:00 - [55] Funny how this has almost turned into another BoB/Dev slate. Respect to BoB for what they have accomplished and for their ideals of hoping to open 0.0 space to pilots that would otherwise not have the opportunity to access the joys of rare mins Even if in the doing so did make they're own wallets even fatter. One thing that I have to say though, the thing that saddens me is that a BoB leader did lower himself enough to reveal RL details of another player publically, which in my mind outweighs any positives they would ever accomplish.
Pesadel0 Vagabundos	Posted - 2007.02.14 00:13:00 - [56] Originally by: Isonkon Serikain Originally by: Stockarian I'm sorry, but if you think robert won the class war, all you have to do is look back a couple of months ago on these forums to see their true form. Every one of their posts I have had the misfortune of reading has been nothing but arrogance and e-peen. Class does not describe them in the least bit. At least they smack AFTER taking down their enemy, not before...ahem.. So yeah there's a bit more merit there, than what is going on now in the forums... You are kidding right?
Red Gabba Use Of Weapons	Posted - 2007.02.14 00:16:00 - [57] Since i left Maelstrom and LV i have little bearing on current events and my voice is mostly ignored however... I do however respect and admire Kaeten's post, well said and also true, even if i despise Curse Alliance i can have respect for the same players. sadly some of the witch hunts and posts on the forums will taint views of players and in turn will taint there alliance, my experience of Goons and "fofofofofofo" in local has made sure that i will always dislike the goons immensely, and the same for people who fly to there cause, that's just me, Forum gags are needed at times, because like it or not, people with little or no charm will post and show up the rest of there allience. Not sure were i was going with this now
thoradh AirHawk Alliance Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.14 00:33:00 - [58] Originally by: ***uko I see no reason to respect them frankly. Inserts the discalimer for not speaking for alliance or corp* Nothing will give me greater pleasure than urinatinating on their collective graves. > > Noli illegitimi carborundum! >
Red Crown	Posted - 2007.02.14 00:38:00 - [59] I have little reason to respect BoB as a whole or on the individual level. This whole dev scandal made me lose more respect for them, not because the devs were helping, but because they chose to profit off of it. They've also proven to me that besides all else, they are just flat jerks.
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar Momentum. Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.02.14 00:42:00 - [60] Originally by: ElCholo 2nd - Since most of the server is of the opinion BoB has the majority of the best pvp pilots and best equipped ships - it stands to reason the only way to beat them is through numbers. If numbers wins the war, so be it. Sorry mate but I have to disagree on that. Yes the myth is BOB fly only insta damage monsters..but looking at the KM from earlier. They brought Ravens and T1 fitted tempest to a fleet battle tonight We have total respect for DICE COIN etc and their gank squads...so all our BS were T2 fitted. Dont underestimate your opponents...and dont bring missile boats to a fleet battle I agree with point number 3...I would like to see less BOB arrogance..and more BOB pew pew. We all know its what they do best Tears will stream down your face, when you lose something you can not replace
Audri Fisher Caldari The Keep THE R0CK	Posted - 2007.02.14 00:45:00 - [61] Originally by: Crucifier I dont give a **** about the dev incident. All i want is them to die. You just made a new best friend.
Audri Fisher Caldari The Keep THE R0CK	Posted - 2007.02.14 00:48:00 - [62] Originally by: Xelphior you have to respect the other point of view, and what if your positions were reversed, what if a member of your corp was found cheating and then You, not just you alliance but YOU because your in said alliance were branded a cheater yet you had nothing to do with it. See things objectivly and dont be too quick to start pointing fingers, its never good Judging the Whole of a group by a minority is it? huh I had that situation once in my corp It was dealt with pubicaly. Not on the frums because nobody would have cared about a tiny 9 man corp. It was dealt with however, we made it clear that we do not condone cheating. That same person is now in BoB.
elohllird Gallente Constructive Influence	Posted - 2007.02.14 00:57:00 - [63] Originally by: BuSHiDo ZiN Originally by: Xelphior Originally by: The Mittani Originally by: Xelphior you have to respect the other point of view, and what if your positions were reversed, what if a member of your corp was found cheating and then You, not just you alliance but YOU because your in said alliance were branded a cheater yet you had nothing to do with it. See things objectivly and dont be too quick to start pointing fingers, its never good Judging the Whole of a group by a minority is it? huh Yeah, it really sucks when people wave a flag of out-of-game moral righteousness as an excuse for an in-game war. I'm so glad you little BoD pets have come to see my side of things. BoB ... Dont go all; to quote "out-of-game moral righteousness its the general consensous tbfh, and im no pet, this pet has teeth Careful, your cognitive dissonance is showing. Hmm, Someone got a dictionary for christmas...you my friend earn the special" knob jockey" award, and yeah i cba to look up what "cognitive dissonance" means....i got more important things to do.. /me goes back to polishing turds
Shizuko Caldari E X O D U S	Posted - 2007.02.14 01:03:00 - [64] Dinamita Tona frankly u havent even bothered to read my post. So i will not be reponding in depth to the above drivel. And yes, i was in BoB. Also if u read carefully, you can see that i say incomparison to the first weeks of the ASCN war, goons/ra are smacking BoB around.
Breaka The Clearwater Society Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.02.14 01:26:00 - [65] If BoB gets kicked from their regions (big "if" imo), do you think they'll just skulk off to empire to mine veld? hehe Remember when everyone said IAC was gonna die? What happened when MC and FIX and LV went home? History has a nasty habit of repeating itself. Can't wait :)
Dracolich North Star Networks Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.02.14 01:36:00 - [66] We do away with your kind Countdown to exterminate the human race 0, 3, 2, 1 Let chaos entwine On defenseless soil Remove errors of man And sweep all the weakening kind I am war, I am pain I am all you've ever slain I am tears in your eyes I am grief, I am lies Bygone are tolerance And presence of grace Scavengers are set out To cleanse the human filth parade I am pure, I am true I am all over you I am laugh, I am smile I am the earth defiled I am the cosmic storms I am the tiny worms I am fear in the night I am bringer of light
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar Momentum. Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.02.14 01:40:00 - [67] Originally by: Dracolich odd goth lyrics you what now?...quoting song lyrics is a little sad junior (omg...time to change my sig)
R0ot InNova Tech Inc Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.14 01:42:00 - [68] Originally by: Cptn Chaos maybe nitpicking, but thats one cheater who got caught, that doesnt mean it was the only one. tbh m8 if thats the way your thinking, then we could all go around claiming D2 or any other alliance is cheating, if the Devs are allowed to play its almost guaranteed theres at least 1 in each major alliance. And if this crap about BoD was funny with the first few mentions but now having every single anti-bob person spamming it EVERYWHERE its getting old and annoying, we could just start calling D2 "Dev's Squared" or Goonswarm "GMSwarm" , so how about we all STFU and get back to shooting the **** outta each other. ___________________________________________________________________
Dracolich North Star Networks Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.02.14 02:02:00 - [69] Originally by: Flinx Evenstar you what now?... me what now, what? Originally by: Flinx Evenstar quoting song lyrics is a little sad junior Maybe, but I found it befitting. However, not nearly as sad as calling people junior, when unaware of their age.
Grimeh Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2007.02.14 04:34:00 - [70] Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Originally by: ElCholo 2nd - Since most of the server is of the opinion BoB has the majority of the best pvp pilots and best equipped ships - it stands to reason the only way to beat them is through numbers. If numbers wins the war, so be it. Sorry mate but I have to disagree on that. Yes the myth is BOB fly only insta damage monsters..but looking at the KM from earlier. They brought Ravens and T1 fitted tempest to a fleet battle tonight We have total respect for DICE COIN etc and their gank squads...so all our BS were T2 fitted. Maybe you should advise your compatriots in RAZOR in 9CG how to fit thier carriers and not fit T1 invulns and cap rechargers rather than comment on others....
Anonymous Coward Gallente Panopticon Citadel	Posted - 2007.02.14 05:53:00 - [71] Originally by: Xelphior i see every reason. regardless of methods they have built an empire in game and a Reputation for being one of the best pvp groups about. They are on a forum ban, and they are following it they are putting up with utter rubbish off the forums and general discrimination and stupid namecalling. its stupid, how bout we just Stfu about them and get on with it huh You realize how incredibly stupid it looks when a COIN alt refers to BoB as "they," right? You're not fooling anyone. Originally by: Dianabolic I was sworn to absolute secrecy by CCP.
Akoudoulos Maza Nostra RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.14 06:01:00 - [72] Nice post, and wtf is wrong with ppl? its one rotten apple not the whole tree
DrDrohne	Posted - 2007.02.14 07:54:00 - [73] despite technical probs (lag/low fps) this is the point why i finaly stoped playing eve the ingame politics gets to much of real life theres hate gainst other players there allys and the way they play and also theres abuse of "might" as the dev has done. and c¦mon we know there are more of them working for bob and he hasnt just thoose low t2 bpos... its just like politics trow a head into the raving mass and they calm down and forget the others who should loose ya head. eves not longer player controlled its controlled bye thoose who make the game.so i take my hat and im off from eve this stuff hapend has cured me fromt the eve dissease. thx to bob and ccp my wife also thx for getting me back. and guys no matter if your ceo or simple miner its a game nothing more not worth to hate or steal or betray others
Atomine Elektrine Gallente Heroes Die	Posted - 2007.02.14 08:10:00 - [74] Originally by: sakana [ i agree tbh, BoB are the bad guys in relation to my alliance, but i think everyone jumping on the "i hate bob" "band of developers" bandwagon is pretty lame. they have achieved a lot as an alliance, regardless of what we now know.... well, they archived it cause of spammege of t2 bpo in their hangars [only few was returned but most - not] or for a scanning of enemy setups at championship? or maybe cause of censored scouting for them in ra/friends systems? with infinity isk [t2 bpo] any idiot can archive what bob done.
Ronin Reborn Dark-Rising Fallen Souls	Posted - 2007.02.14 08:26:00 - [75] Originally by: Akoudoulos Nice post, and wtf is wrong with ppl? its one rotten apple not the whole tree qft, people are foolish if they think that this is the only time in this many years someone has cheated in Eve. But what's most ironic to me is how so many people are smacking BoB while saying that no one likes them because they smacktalk people. So much for proving you're the bigger man, no one likes a hypocrit...
Le Cardinal ECP Rogues Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.02.14 08:35:00 - [76] My point of view: Bob has earned their place in eve history because their achievements on the battlefield. And it take a lot of logistics also to manage what they have also. I dont think the majority of BoB knew what was going on. I have the impression that BoB lead keep their cards hidden for majority of alliance as any sensible alliance would. This being said. I wanna see bob crushed. Dead and buried. Why? Not because their achievements and results on the battlefield. I love to go up against BoB. I wanna see them crushed mostly because of their arrogant and disghusting forum smacking. Personal attacks against alliance leaders and their members. They constantly put down ppl on the forums. Almost without exception when in war. Especially in the war against Goons and ASCN. When they have won they suddenly turn around and praise their prey. So they seem like hypochrits (bad spelling?). I think this is the biggest reason for the community to now attack BoB from all sides. And not the latest Dev scandal. And for those who think that ppl are just jumping on bandwagons now. You dont beat a force like BoB without a proper plan and proper preparations. This has been going on for a while. And the attacks most likely just happened as the dev scandal was revealed to the public. And remember this before you jump to conclusions about BoB. They are not beaten yet. Those who think that is foolish. They have good friends like every other alliance. I must admit im very surprised to see the tenacy, will and skill from Xelas and Fix. There has been alot of smack on the forums against them. But they bring it, and they bring it good. Ive had some fun fights vs them and i hope they continue. I have a different view of them now than before. Eve history is being written as we speak. And only the victor will write the final chapter. Who it will be remains to see.
Why'dyou HitMe Minmatar The Reckoning	Posted - 2007.02.14 08:47:00 - [77] Originally by: elohllird more smack... So the no posting rule is just for BOB mains,alts and pets can post at will I see. Oh and a dog has teeth too, he barks alot but still sits when his owner orders. So are you an alt, if not can you fetch? Im not ANTI-BOB I just dont like you... Nah, nevermind , I dont like BOD either.
Kaeten Hybrid Syndicate Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.14 09:10:00 - [78] Edited by: Kaeten on 14/02/2007 09:09:57 Originally by: Le Cardinal This being said. I wanna see bob crushed. Dead and buried. Why? Not because their achievements and results on the battlefield. I love to go up against BoB. I wanna see them crushed mostly because of their arrogant and disghusting forum smacking. Personal attacks against alliance leaders and their members. They constantly put down ppl on the forums. Almost without exception when in war. Especially in the war against Goons and ASCN. When they have won they suddenly turn around and praise their prey. So they seem like hypochrits (bad spelling?). Before you go at BOB saying they smack bad on the forums you should consider looking at everyone else and their behavior. One reason why I didn't state BOB's posting behavior is because it reflects what everyone else does too. Or else there would be no forum flaming. How much fun would it be to flame without getting a response to flame at. Not any fun at all. BOB smack goons, goons smack BOB, LV smacks RED, red smacks LV. It's a circle. Thats why I haven't stated anything that concerns forum posting because everyone does it. Same with smacktalk in local. BOB have a policy not to smack in local. But they sometimes do when they can get away with it(I've witnessed it several times while in BOB). However so have everyone else. So your post is abit weak as maybe you don't smack. But others do. Pwnage PvP Recruitment \m/ Metal Head \m/
thoth foc Elcyion Lacar	Posted - 2007.02.14 09:14:00 - [79] Kaeten, honest opinions, well put and with thought and justification when queried.. You sure your on the correct forum? Hats off for it. _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) xATUK (.5.) xDICE (BOB)
Spike Spiegle Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.14 09:33:00 - [80] First I agree with OP on the fact that BoB are awsome fun to fight and you always get a fight! Second as much as I hate the so called "BOB bandwagon" what did they really expect to happen when they threaten to wipe out the whole of eve and then attack on multiple fronts?
MironCosszma ECP Rogues Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.02.14 09:40:00 - [81] ppl please stop the bull**** with bob GM`s ...it was one and to be honest he didnt represent the entire BoB alliance . Dont judge 1000 man from an action who belong to only 1 who actualy wasnt a CEO or High command of anny bob corporation . -------------------------- They say the plane and the ordinary are rule by fate, And heroic chouse their own destiny I desagree, Some times,destiny chouses the Hero.
mamolian Vortex. Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.14 09:42:00 - [82] Originally by: Crucifier I dont give a **** about the dev incident. All i want is them to die. Pretty much stole my reply. -------------------------------
Le Cardinal ECP Rogues Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.02.14 09:47:00 - [83] Edited by: Le Cardinal on 14/02/2007 09:44:02 Originally by: Kaeten Edited by: Kaeten on 14/02/2007 09:09:57 Originally by: Le Cardinal This being said. I wanna see bob crushed. Dead and buried. Why? Not because their achievements and results on the battlefield. I love to go up against BoB. I wanna see them crushed mostly because of their arrogant and disghusting forum smacking. Personal attacks against alliance leaders and their members. They constantly put down ppl on the forums. Almost without exception when in war. Especially in the war against Goons and ASCN. When they have won they suddenly turn around and praise their prey. So they seem like hypochrits (bad spelling?). Before you go at BOB saying they smack bad on the forums you should consider looking at everyone else and their behavior. One reason why I didn't state BOB's posting behavior is because it reflects what everyone else does too. Or else there would be no forum flaming. How much fun would it be to flame without getting a response to flame at. Not any fun at all. BOB smack goons, goons smack BOB, LV smacks RED, red smacks LV. It's a circle. Thats why I haven't stated anything that concerns forum posting because everyone does it. Same with smacktalk in local. BOB have a policy not to smack in local. But they sometimes do when they can get away with it(I've witnessed it several times while in BOB). However so have everyone else. So your post is abit weak as maybe you don't smack. But others do. Nowhere have i said that other corps/ppl dont smack. Alot of ppl do. Both in local and on forums. However, as BoB is one of the main attractions on eve-o, it become more vicible when they do. My argument is not weak, maybe a bit biased. There is a reason why there is alot of hate for BoB. And it has, for my sake, nothing to do with their skills on the field, but for their eve-o behaviour. I dont doubt for a second that they are polite to their friends. Ppl tend to forget that (not only some Bob'ers) there are human beings behind other toons. Treat ppl polite and they will be polite back. Simple rule. Quote: BOB have a policy not to smack in local Do u really convince urself that this is true? I have never ever met a foe that smacks as bad as ATUK (now dice). It really surprise me that a skilled crew like them actually degrade themselves to this kind of behaviour.
UbaH n00b Whoregasm	Posted - 2007.02.14 10:49:00 - [84] Originally by: Crucifier I dont give a ** about the dev incident. All i want is them to die. Win. And it aint just Goons. Its most people. And its snowballin'. And its fun. And its gunna be messy. And did I miss something? haven't noticed a mass of BoB posts? has the PR machine broken a cog? Originally by:** Avon I think it is a little unfair to expect CCP to fix the internet.
thoth foc Elcyion Lacar	Posted - 2007.02.14 10:53:00 - [85] Originally by: Le Cardinal Do u really convince urself that this is true? I have never ever met a foe that smacks as bad as ATUK (now dice). It really surprise me that a skilled crew like them actually degrade themselves to this kind of behaviour. tbh you should look at your own corp b4 pointing fingers.. i remember 1 in particular ranting on in local quite regularly.. the difference is, after a few poddings.. you stopped seeing him in local much.. _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) xATUK (.5.) xDICE (BOB)
Le Cardinal ECP Rogues Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.02.14 11:04:00 - [86] Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: Le Cardinal Do u really convince urself that this is true? I have never ever met a foe that smacks as bad as ATUK (now dice). It really surprise me that a skilled crew like them actually degrade themselves to this kind of behaviour. tbh you should look at your own corp b4 pointing fingers.. i remember 1 in particular ranting on in local quite regularly.. the difference is, after a few poddings.. you stopped seeing him in local much.. Please feel free to contact me ingame and give me his name. Ill deal with it there. I dont condone smack and i never will.
Spenz Gallente FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.02.14 11:13:00 - [87] In no way does this represent my corp or my alliance. They are my opinions only I have some ex-corp mates in BoB. All I ever hear from them is how superior BoB is and how they will crush all the alliances. Smack smack smack. Its basically all they do. Quite frankly unless your exposed to BoB members on a daily basis (well not recently since the dev scandal thank goodness), and you are NOT one of their pets, you would hate them too. I had very little respect for BoB before the incident, but afterwards all respect I had for their pvp prowess went down the drain. I was sure they had good players by looking at the tourney, but after the incident how am I to know they won off skill alone? How am I to know they are winning off skill alone and not from using cheap T2 equipment because they hold all the BPO's? How is anyone to know anymore? BoB never respected any of the eve community. They are in love with their own image. So tell me WHY should I respect them in ANY way? Why SHOULD I turn a blind eye to what has occured? Quite frankly I never liked them, and barely respected them. Im not about to start even after their directors and a dev were caught with their hands in the cookie jar. Dont try and take the moral high ground. Like someone said, nobody is unbiased.
Kaeten Hybrid Syndicate Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.14 11:23:00 - [88] Originally by: Le Cardinal Edited by: Le Cardinal on 14/02/2007 09:44:02 Originally by: Kaeten Edited by: Kaeten on 14/02/2007 09:09:57 Originally by: Le Cardinal This being said. I wanna see bob crushed. Dead and buried. Why? Not because their achievements and results on the battlefield. I love to go up against BoB. I wanna see them crushed mostly because of their arrogant and disghusting forum smacking. Personal attacks against alliance leaders and their members. They constantly put down ppl on the forums. Almost without exception when in war. Especially in the war against Goons and ASCN. When they have won they suddenly turn around and praise their prey. So they seem like hypochrits (bad spelling?). Before you go at BOB saying they smack bad on the forums you should consider looking at everyone else and their behavior. One reason why I didn't state BOB's posting behavior is because it reflects what everyone else does too. Or else there would be no forum flaming. How much fun would it be to flame without getting a response to flame at. Not any fun at all. BOB smack goons, goons smack BOB, LV smacks RED, red smacks LV. It's a circle. Thats why I haven't stated anything that concerns forum posting because everyone does it. Same with smacktalk in local. BOB have a policy not to smack in local. But they sometimes do when they can get away with it(I've witnessed it several times while in BOB). However so have everyone else. So your post is abit weak as maybe you don't smack. But others do. Nowhere have i said that other corps/ppl dont smack. Alot of ppl do. Both in local and on forums. However, as BoB is one of the main attractions on eve-o, it become more vicible when they do. My argument is not weak, maybe a bit biased. There is a reason why there is alot of hate for BoB. And it has, for my sake, nothing to do with their skills on the field, but for their eve-o behaviour. I dont doubt for a second that they are polite to their friends. Ppl tend to forget that (not only some Bob'ers) there are human beings behind other toons. Treat ppl polite and they will be polite back. Simple rule. Quote: BOB have a policy not to smack in local Do u really convince urself that this is true? I have never ever met a foe that smacks as bad as ATUK (now dice). It really surprise me that a skilled crew like them actually degrade themselves to this kind of behaviour. Ok well your maybe abit biased yes. Alot of people are. THe no smack polict thing though. There is a diffrence between having a policy and following it. I did say after that line that they have. BOB says to it's troops "please do not smack" (afaiak they still have the policy?). But some do anyway. I also stated this in my earlier post. Pwnage PvP Recruitment \m/ Metal Head \m/
Kaeten Hybrid Syndicate Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.14 11:32:00 - [89] Originally by: Spenz BoB never respected any of the eve community. They are in love with their own image. So tell me WHY should I respect them in ANY way? Why SHOULD I turn a blind eye to what has occured? Quite frankly I never liked them, and barely respected them. Im not about to start even after their directors and a dev were caught with their hands in the cookie jar. Dont try and take the moral high ground. Like someone said, nobody is unbiased. It's been stated in an earlier post that BOB are arrogent. Yes some of the BOB people might be(there are other people that are really cool in BOB. However I must admit I do dislike some figures in BOB). Tbh wouldn't you be in love with your own image if your image was near perfect? BOB can do whatever they like and this might be the cause of their arrogence, because noone has been able to step up. That was also stated in another post. All I know is that I just want to fight and have fun. I also stated that I'd like to think myself as an unbiased person. Can you please point out where I'm biased? Because I'm missing it. Pwnage PvP Recruitment \m/ Metal Head \m/
killerco Gallente Confederation of Red Moon Red Moon Federation	Posted - 2007.02.14 11:46:00 - [90] Originally by: Kaeten Remember people this is a game... QFT Don't be a great man just be a man
Le Cardinal ECP Rogues Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.02.14 11:49:00 - [91] Granted im biased as im on the wrong side of the barrel, but wouldnt you also as ur x-BoB (if im not mistaken?). I think most corps have anti smack policy. But with the amount of forum smack coming from BoB its hard to accept this. I think their attitude on eve-o is what turn ppl against them most of all. Not the latest dev scandal. That just tore a giant hole in their credibility. An attack against BoB requires, as i stated before, alot of planning. At least if its meant to be a devastating blow to them. Some random attacks on their home wont cut it. So it would be sensible to assume that most of these attacks have been planned way ahead of latest scandal. Also im adding again. I bet there was only a very few that knew about t20. So i for one wont blame the majority of bob.
Kaeten Hybrid Syndicate Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.14 11:57:00 - [92] Originally by: Le Cardinal Granted im biased as im on the wrong side of the barrel, but wouldnt you also as ur x-BoB (if im not mistaken?). What has this got to do with me not being unbiased. I've probably got a better idea when it comes ot how they work and how they are (that's if their lifestyles haven't changed, bet it hasn't). Atm in time a good BOB ship is a dead BOB ship (with lot's of t2/faction loot). I'm not on BOB's side when it comes to EVE warfare. I am on the otherside. I'm biased when it comes to killin gthem. I want them dead (lol). However this still does not change the fact that I'm unbiased when it comes to other aspects than EVE-warfare (combat/pvp). Pwnage PvP Recruitment \m/ Metal Head \m/
Logan Feynman Constructive Influence	Posted - 2007.02.14 12:01:00 - [93] Originally by: Anonymous Coward Originally by: Xelphior i see every reason. regardless of methods they have built an empire in game and a Reputation for being one of the best pvp groups about. They are on a forum ban, and they are following it they are putting up with utter rubbish off the forums and general discrimination and stupid namecalling. its stupid, how bout we just Stfu about them and get on with it huh You realize how incredibly stupid it looks when a COIN alt refers to BoB as "they," right? You're not fooling anyone. Says an anonymous coward. I hope you are D2 or RedSwarm alt ... nice to see them having this kind of intel.
Fitz Chivalry eXceed Inc.	Posted - 2007.02.14 12:03:00 - [94] Firstly, I "hate" BoB. With that said, this situation reminds me of a well known saying: ôAn alcoholic is someone you donÆt like who drinks as much as you do.ö ù Dylan Thomas. EVERY alliance cheats (by which I mean breaches the EULA) to some degree or another. (Almost) None of us know how we would react if we were presented with the same opportunities as BoB had, we might like to think we wouldnt take them but its easy to think that until you are faced with the temptation. Now I do think that BoB have brought a lot of this on themselves with their forum presence but, seriously, there aer bigger things in life to get worked up about than this. If it gives you a raison d'etre to go after BoB then more power to you but dont give in to hate, that way the dark side lies. There is bound to be a few people saying "well i would never..." etc.
Le Cardinal ECP Rogues Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.02.14 12:09:00 - [95] Quote: I'm not on BOB's side when it comes to EVE warfare. I am on the otherside. I'm biased when it comes to killin gthem. I want them dead (lol). However this still does not change the fact that I'm unbiased when it comes to other aspects than EVE-warfare (combat/pvp). I am not on BoB's side either in Warfare (not in anything i must add^^). I am on the other side, Im biased when it comes to killing them. I want them dead () However this still dont change the fact that im unbiased when it comes to other aspects than eve-warfare (combat/pvp). Cept that i dont like their behaviour on forum, and believe this is why half of eve-universe is currently attacking them.
DARKKK	Posted - 2007.02.14 12:19:00 - [96] Originally by: Le Cardinal Quote: I'm not on BOB's side when it comes to EVE warfare. I am on the otherside. I'm biased when it comes to killin gthem. I want them dead (lol). However this still does not change the fact that I'm unbiased when it comes to other aspects than EVE-warfare (combat/pvp). I am not on BoB's side either in Warfare (not in anything i must add^^). I am on the other side, Im biased when it comes to killing them. I want them dead () However this still dont change the fact that im unbiased when it comes to other aspects than eve-warfare (combat/pvp). Cept that i dont like their behaviour on forum, and believe this is why half of eve-universe is currently attacking them. So it wasn't 5. or ATUK alts mining in Syndicate, after all ?
Kaeten Hybrid Syndicate Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.14 12:21:00 - [97] Originally by: Le Cardinal Quote: I'm not on BOB's side when it comes to EVE warfare. I am on the otherside. I'm biased when it comes to killin gthem. I want them dead (lol). However this still does not change the fact that I'm unbiased when it comes to other aspects than EVE-warfare (combat/pvp). I am not on BoB's side either in Warfare (not in anything i must add^^). I am on the other side, Im biased when it comes to killing them. I want them dead () However this still dont change the fact that im unbiased when it comes to other aspects than eve-warfare (combat/pvp). Cept that i dont like their behaviour on forum, and believe this is why half of eve-universe is currently attacking them. Tbh that would actully make sense. There are also people that just don't lie kthme because they, win(?) all of the time. People have their reasons. Also as said they want people ot attack them so I mean they must be having a blast atm. Pwnage PvP Recruitment \m/ Metal Head \m/
Le Cardinal ECP Rogues Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.02.14 12:36:00 - [98] Originally by: Kaeten Originally by: Le Cardinal Quote: I'm not on BOB's side when it comes to EVE warfare. I am on the otherside. I'm biased when it comes to killin gthem. I want them dead (lol). However this still does not change the fact that I'm unbiased when it comes to other aspects than EVE-warfare (combat/pvp). I am not on BoB's side either in Warfare (not in anything i must add^^). I am on the other side, Im biased when it comes to killing them. I want them dead () However this still dont change the fact that im unbiased when it comes to other aspects than eve-warfare (combat/pvp). Cept that i dont like their behaviour on forum, and believe this is why half of eve-universe is currently attacking them. Tbh that would actully make sense. There are also people that just don't lie kthme because they, win(?) all of the time. People have their reasons. Also as said they want people ot attack them so I mean they must be having a blast atm. BoB are usually a fearsome adversary in fleetbattles, granted. But they can blow up like the rest of us. And in smaller gangs they arent more scary than other corps/alliances. I can name lots of corps that i think is better than bob at this. Damnit, i need to do some work also. Papers are stockpiling here
Altar Mei Solstice Systems Development Concourse SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.14 12:50:00 - [99] Originally by: MironCosszma ppl please stop the bull**** with bob GM`s ...it was one and to be honest he didnt represent the entire BoB alliance . Dont judge 1000 man from an action who belong to only 1 who actualy wasnt a CEO or High command of anny bob corporation . Do you realy think that the bob leadership would pass up smearing their current war target with this info if the roles were reversed? You can take the so called morale high ground but it gets you nowhere.

Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2007.02.14 12:59:00 - [100] Cleaned up the thread, Please keep this on topic that is respect / lack of respect for bob, and not about the dev misconduct, its walking a fine line at the moment which is fine but i will lock it if i feel its going off topic. - Thanks Hutch. ____ forum rules \| Email us \| Wikipedia Entry They call me "Hutch" because my name is well... long

Jet Max Gallente Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.02.14 13:01:00 - [101] Edited by: Jet Max on 14/02/2007 12:58:31 Originally by: Fitz Chivalry (Almost*) None of us know how we would react if we were presented with the same opportunities as BoB had, we might like to think we wouldnt take them but its easy to think that until you are faced with the temptation. I know how i would react, and i am not even gona lie - I would take every T2 BPO and asked for more. Everyone would, yes EVERYONE. Look whats happening on forums "Omfg why i am not getting T2 BPO", "T2 ships too expencive DEVS should look and fix [cos i dont have T2 BPO]", "T2 lottery needs fixing!!11eleven [cos i dont have a single T2 BPO]". And anyways i dont think its cheating its just being an oportunist
Crellion Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2007.02.14 13:10:00 - [102] Please can you all stop with the ******* BoB threads and try to do something in game you can be proud of? Atm its like: 30 mins in game, diealot, come to forums post anti bob for 3 hours, another 30 mins in game, diealot, back here for a BoB thread and pruning 2 hours, back to game for 20 mins pvp - kill a kestrel 1v30 \o/, back to forums make a post about it, General forum trolling for 6 hours, time for bed. ^ that's the average you in this game LOL get a grip. No I am not talking about you Kaeten you are a good dude you just have a broken ally ticker and should fix it asap. Arguably my opinions represent to an extent the opinions of my alliance and in particular circumstances give rise to a valid "casus belli" claim.
UbaH n00b Whoregasm	Posted - 2007.02.14 13:13:00 - [103] Originally by: Jet Max Edited by: Jet Max on 14/02/2007 12:58:31 Originally by: Fitz Chivalry (Almost) None of us know how we would react if we were presented with the same opportunities as BoB had, we might like to think we wouldnt take them but its easy to think that until you are faced with the temptation. I know how i would react, and i am not even gona lie - I would take every T2 BPO and asked for more. Everyone would, yes EVERYONE. Look whats happening on forums "Omfg why i am not getting T2 BPO", "T2 ships too expencive DEVS should look and fix [cos i dont have T2 BPO]", "T2 lottery needs fixing!!11eleven [cos i dont have a single T2 BPO]". And anyways i dont think its cheating its just being an oportunist Not many people would admit to that unfortunately. And while people publicly berate BoB for being cheats, whether are or they're not, they were just presented with an oppurtunity everyone would take up. Now I think the silence BoB seem to be having on the forums is interesting and i'm wondering the reason; forum-fu was one of their skill V's - i wonder if they've been shushed because right now it will only serve to stoke the rage inside of everyone. Interesting times. I bet BoB are chomping at the bit to reply to some of these posts, especially when at the moment a whack of forumfu could probably help their campaign against the number of corps/alliances against them. Originally by:* Avon I think it is a little unfair to expect CCP to fix the internet.
Le Cardinal ECP Rogues Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.02.14 13:16:00 - [104] Originally by: Crellion Please can you all stop with the ******* BoB threads and try to do something in game you can be proud of? Atm its like: 30 mins in game, diealot, come to forums post anti bob for 3 hours, another 30 mins in game, diealot, back here for a BoB thread and pruning 2 hours, back to game for 20 mins pvp - kill a kestrel 1v30 \o/, back to forums make a post about it, General forum trolling for 6 hours, time for bed. ^ that's the average you in this game LOL get a grip. No I am not talking about you Kaeten you are a good dude you just have a broken ally ticker and should fix it asap. Hey! Thats a low blow. I am at work
Kaeten Hybrid Syndicate Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.14 13:17:00 - [105] Originally by: Logan Feynman Originally by: Anonymous Coward Originally by: Xelphior i see every reason. regardless of methods they have built an empire in game and a Reputation for being one of the best pvp groups about. They are on a forum ban, and they are following it they are putting up with utter rubbish off the forums and general discrimination and stupid namecalling. its stupid, how bout we just Stfu about them and get on with it huh You realize how incredibly stupid it looks when a COIN alt refers to BoB as "they," right? You're not fooling anyone. Says an anonymous coward. I hope you are D2 or RedSwarm alt ... nice to see them having this kind of intel. I'm not anonymous. Care to explain how your not their alt corp(I've always known yous are a BOB industrial corp). Pwnage PvP Recruitment \m/ Metal Head \m/
elohllird Gallente Constructive Influence	Posted - 2007.02.14 13:19:00 - [106] Originally by: Why'dyou HitMe Originally by: elohllird more smack... So the no posting rule is just for BOB mains,alts and pets can post at will I see. Oh and a dog has teeth too, he barks alot but still sits when his owner orders. So are you an alt, if not can you fetch? Im not ANTI-BOB I just dont like you... Nah, nevermind , I dont like BOD either. I'm a Main, fancy a hug
Sinlare Gallente Garoun Investment Bank	Posted - 2007.02.14 13:34:00 - [107] Originally by: The Mittani Originally by: Xelphior you have to respect the other point of view, and what if your positions were reversed, what if a member of your corp was found cheating and then You, not just you alliance but YOU because your in said alliance were branded a cheater yet you had nothing to do with it. See things objectivly and dont be too quick to start pointing fingers, its never good Judging the Whole of a group by a minority is it? huh Yeah, it really sucks when people wave a flag of out-of-game moral righteousness as an excuse for an in-game war. I'm so glad you little BoD pets have come to see my side of things. Ah yes, good old Mittani, while you're not off petting your cat you're spinning the this and thats all around aren't you. I have this distinct memory of supportive posts about 'the old' incident coming from your fellow alliance members. Frankly, i don't see people do that about the current incident. So no, it's not the same.
The Hooch Minmatar Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.14 13:37:00 - [108] Quote: Even though BOB did have ONE cheater Yes just one, that they all benefitted from, one that could make or break things. Then had the nads to declare to the whole of Eve how great they were. Sure, maybe the average grunt is an alright player, but they follow a corrupt leadership that knows the depth of thier falsehoods. It's a frigg'n game, if you need to do what they have done to get were they are whats the point of even playing?
JP Moregain Gallente EVE Reserve Bank	Posted - 2007.02.14 15:38:00 - [109] Edited by: JP Moregain on 14/02/2007 15:37:08 Edited by: JP Moregain on 14/02/2007 15:35:10 Originally by: The Hooch Yes just one, that they all benefitted from, one that could make or break things. Then had the nads to declare to the whole of Eve how great they were. Sure, maybe the average grunt is an alright player, but they follow a corrupt leadership that knows the depth of thier falsehoods. It's a frigg'n game, if you need to do what they have done to get were they are whats the point of even playing? This is just funny, there was one decent ship BP (sabre?) and one decent Ammo BP (spike L? sorry going from memory)the rest were pretty worthless from a fleet combat standpoint. My guess is that these were insignificant/meaningless relative to the t-2 BPO collection that BoB has likely amassed over the years. The 'make or break' statement is pretty laughable. As far as why the Bobsters are not posting in general (no that are not banned by CCP, as you can see a few posts here or there in non-political threads) my guess is it is a combination of 2 things: 1) They actually want the bulk to EvE to get worked up and bring some pew pew to them, as this is probably their best chance ever to have a real chance to lose and thus get some real excitement. The worst thing that can happen to them in this game is to have no viable opponents... 2) Many bob-haters have already made up their collective 'minds' that all BoB are evil cheaters and thus anything that gets posted BoB will inevitably deteriorate into: "yeah but you cheat!" retorts... Whats the point? Regards, JP http://www.evereserve.com
Limlox Caldari B4N3	Posted - 2007.02.14 15:48:00 - [110] Originally by: UbaH n00b Originally by: Jet Max Edited by: Jet Max on 14/02/2007 12:58:31 Originally by: Fitz Chivalry (Almost*) None of us know how we would react if we were presented with the same opportunities as BoB had, we might like to think we wouldnt take them but its easy to think that until you are faced with the temptation. I know how i would react, and i am not even gona lie - I would take every T2 BPO and asked for more. Everyone would, yes EVERYONE. Look whats happening on forums "Omfg why i am not getting T2 BPO", "T2 ships too expencive DEVS should look and fix [cos i dont have T2 BPO]", "T2 lottery needs fixing!!11eleven [cos i dont have a single T2 BPO]". And anyways i dont think its cheating its just being an oportunist Not many people would admit to that unfortunately. And while people publicly berate BoB for being cheats, whether are or they're not, they were just presented with an oppurtunity everyone would take up. Don't tarnish everyone with the same brush. Personally, i'd rather win fairly and think the whole thing disgusting. But I don't blame the BoB members themselves, but the leadership should have stomped on it long ago.
Ayrine Elenthiel	Posted - 2007.02.14 15:56:00 - [111] Originally by: JP Moregain Edited by: JP Moregain on 14/02/2007 15:48:06 edited for typos Originally by: The Hooch Yes just one, that they all benefitted from, one that could make or break things. Then had the nads to declare to the whole of Eve how great they were. Sure, maybe the average grunt is an alright player, but they follow a corrupt leadership that knows the depth of thier falsehoods. It's a frigg'n game, if you need to do what they have done to get were they are whats the point of even playing? This is just funny, there was one decent ship BP (Sabre?) and one decent ammo BP (Spike L?, sorry going from memory)the rest were pretty worthless from a fleet combat standpoint. My guess is that these were insignificant/meaningless relative to the t-2 BPO collection that BoB has likely amassed over the years. The 'make or break' statement is pretty laughable. As far as why the BoBsters are not posting in general (no they are not banned by CCP, as you can see a few posts here or there in non-political threads) my guess is it is a combination of 2 things: 1) They actually want the bulk of EvE to get worked up and bring some pew pew to them, as this is probably their best chance ever to have a real chance to lose and thus get some excitement. The worst thing that can happen to them in this game is to have no viable opponents... 2) Many bob-haters have already made up their collective 'minds' that all BoB are 'evil cheaters' and thus anything that gets posted by BoB will inevitably deteriorate into "yeah, but you cheat!" retorts... So what's the point? Regards, JP I agree and I think most sane people agree as well, that these BPO's didn't win BoB the status they have (positive and negative). The problem here is that a) The harpies have something to dig their claws in and rub it into the wounds with a "In-Your-Face" attitude. b) Anything BoB has or will achieve will have a slight dent, a light tarnish for most of the people. It's just...natural, to be thinking along the lines of "They did it once, they can do it again". c) Lots of trolling because there's a chance. Anyway, the topic has been discussed enough, no? Move along, nothing new to see. P.S.: My personal views/opinions, not that of my Corporation and/or Alliance.
Kalmanaka The Graduates Ivy League	Posted - 2007.02.14 16:12:00 - [112] Please God make it stop.... Linkage mirror: Linkage
Tundaar Minmatar Eve Defence Force	Posted - 2007.02.14 16:21:00 - [113] Originally by: Xelphior They are on a forum ban, and they are following it they are putting up with utter rubbish off the forums and general discrimination and stupid namecalling. its stupid, how bout we just Stfu about them and get on with it huh Lol - looks like BoB getting some of their own medicine back after their forum attacks on ASCN and how the ASCN leadership had to gag their members etc etc etc. (Of course it was OK then for BoB to post from the internal ASCN forums - it would be nice if we could see what is happening now on the BoB forums) - Very lucky for them that rule was changed I think BoB themselves said that the forums are a legitimate form of warfare and that they would use it ruthlessly, they admitted that they respect no-one (One of their leaders posts) and also that they are in to WIN by any means. IMO they deserve the grief they are getting now - it's simply the rest of the Eve universe playing by BoB's rules. Please note that the opinions expressed here are my own and may not relect that of my corp, alliance, friends, family, pets or sentient vehicles.
Jacque Custeau Knights of the Minmatar Republic	Posted - 2007.02.14 16:27:00 - [114] Oh my god. I did not read the OP but seriously, whiskey tango foxtrot. What Is wrong with you people? Why do we need a new thread on BoB everyday. I don't care if you love them, hate them....etc. Someone stop the madness! -------------------
zykerx Pegasus Mining and Securities R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.02.14 16:48:00 - [115] wel if they rly wanted all eve to fight them etc to be outnumbered alot etc as some people stated , then why set lv blue, why have all the slave alliances to help them they do want targets but not tomuch, and that bpo confession is only because a player foundout, what else he did they will never say, intel can be worth more then t2 bpo''s
welsh wizard 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.02.14 16:56:00 - [116] If they keep this forum silence up and come out on top over the next few months I'll concede that they're truly deserving of everything they've achieved.
Plim Gallente Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2007.02.14 17:00:00 - [117] Originally by: welsh wizard If they keep this forum silence up and come out on top over the next few months I'll concede that they're truly deserving of everything they've achieved. No, they should have started to STFU about 2 years ago welsh. ----------------- Originally by: BoB forum PR Toxic sludge is good for you.

Kreul Intentions Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2007.02.14 17:04:00 - [118] Thread has been cleaned and continues to go downhill in flames. Lockage. forum rules \| [email protected]


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