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T'Renn Crimson Squall	Posted - 2007.02.15 07:55:00 - [151] I'm confused why a corp full of outlaws would pay ISK to dec anyone, and if they did -- what's the big deal? So the black rabbits decced some bears and the bears are emo about. Hey, bears -- head to the nearest .5 system with a bunch of a belts and set up shop for a week. Problem solved - you won't have to worry about any outlaws camping you. Sure, with disposable income some outlaw corp might wardec over being called a dipstick, but you gotta ask if they're willing to grind their sec status up enough to be able to come get you in high sec. I doubt it. Still though, stop smacking pirates in local, people. You don't get anything over on anyone and just look like a retard. You're not saving face, you're losing it. However, the Veto. wardec is something else entirely. I don't know why you got decced by them (besides Verone's mention of RP and "target practice" or whatever) but you might actually have to buy your way out of that one. Oops. Maybe next time you'll STFU in local. --
ChowBoi Caldari Concealed Judgement	Posted - 2007.02.15 13:57:00 - [152] Edited by: ChowBoi on 15/02/2007 14:02:36 I hardly think that is smack talk. What caused the wardec was simply this one thing. Since Napht ATTACKED me first, I simply asked that he apologize for attacking me exiting a station and then I would apologize for calling him a dipstick. That was it people, I said "you first" and he lost it and wardeced. This wasn't started by me calling him awful names and abusing him in local. At that time, I was not aware of anything other then the fact that HE SHOT MY SHIP. Napht was offended that I called him a dipstick, I was offended that HE TRIED TO KILL ME! Yes, Yes, it was in 0.3 and anything goes in lowsec. But just remember, I didn't initiate the conversation demanding an apology because Napht shot at me. I knew I was in lowsec, thats why I also throttled back to the least offensive word I could think of, namely 'dipstick'. And in my wildest dreams Napht, I didn't think I could upset you so badly in a short amount of time just by asking you to apologise first that you drop 50 million to wardec from your entire alliance. I didn't think you were that sensative as I expected alot more from a pirate. You don't even know how to threaten people. Here is how it should have gone down... Napht> You sir, insulted me in local chat, I demand you apologize! ChowBoi> You attacked me exiting the station, apologize first! Napht> One of the dangers traveling in lowsec, now apologize! ChowBoi> You first Napht> I refuse to apologise for my actions, I am at home in lowsec and you invaded my home. Napht> Now apologize before I bring the wrath of the entire Fatal Persuasion alliance on the head of your corporation. ChowBoi> whoa... ok... ChowBoi> I humbly apologize for calling you a dipstick". I will make haste to leave your region of space and never return! That would have been RPing on your part. You didn't get into RP mode till after you wardecd. So don't play the RP card. You just lost control. Oh, the few people in your corporation and in Veto that I have spoken with all seem very honorable, so you do have good people working for you.
Kura Accipter Caldari The Black Rabbits Fatal Persuasion	Posted - 2007.02.15 14:10:00 - [153] You really should conceal your judgement of Naph, because you're hitting really far off the mark. See what I did there? See you in space precious
Olixia Castitatis Gallente Svefn-G-Englar	Posted - 2007.02.15 15:14:00 - [154] I'm not sure I approve of all these foreigners using the good, tranditional Britsh insult that is "Dipstick!". You're doing it wrong! ----------------------- <Sig goes here>
ChowBoi Caldari Concealed Judgement	Posted - 2007.02.15 15:21:00 - [155] Originally by: Kura Accipter You really should conceal your judgement of Naph, because you're hitting really far off the mark. How am I off the mark? I said Napht was sensitive about being called a dipstick (obviously). That Napht didn't make any attempt to threaten me (as a pirate would), or to extort any money out of me (as a pirate would). I also said that in that interaction, Napht did not RP at all until after the wardec. So what part of that was off the mark? And I apologize if calling the other members of BR and Veto honorable somehow offended them.
Koi Yokuma Karnival of Death Squad Vis Major	Posted - 2007.02.15 15:42:00 - [156] carefull about the hijacks, people have been wardec'ed for less! This really is very amusing. Thanks for making work a little more enjoyable for me!
Kura Accipter Caldari The Black Rabbits Fatal Persuasion	Posted - 2007.02.15 15:43:00 - [157] If you can't see the fundamental mistake you have made in your interpretation of that chatlog, I'm not going to waste my time explaining it to you. Now can we please do our talking with pewpew, this sort of dramallama belongs in CAOD not here.
Verone Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.02.15 15:43:00 - [158] Originally by: T'Renn However, the Veto. wardec is something else entirely. I don't know why you got decced by them (besides Verone's mention of RP and "target practice" or whatever) but you might actually have to buy your way out of that one. Oops. Maybe next time you'll STFU in local. The wardec on our part was put in entirely on in character RP reasoning while we're off contact and moving HQ. With regards to ISK, we asked in character for nothing but a mail of apology from the pilot who insulted Naph, and one from the corp's CEO. No money involved. We were met with a wall of abuse. Enough anyway... as the rabbits have said, it spoils the fun to speak about an IC situation on an OOC forum Fight the good fight. NEWEST MOVIE : VETO FOR HIRE
Jacque Custeau Knights of the Minmatar Republic	Posted - 2007.02.15 16:42:00 - [159] Lets be realistic here. Most of the Black rabbits are -10 pirates. All you have to do is stay in high sec and you will be ok for a while. As for Veto., I don't know much about them. I still think the leet dot is retarded though. -------------------
ChowBoi Caldari Concealed Judgement	Posted - 2007.02.15 18:43:00 - [160] Originally by: Jacque Custeau Lets be realistic here. Most of the Black rabbits are -10 pirates. All you have to do is stay in high sec and you will be ok for a while. As for Veto., I don't know much about them. I still think the leet dot is retarded though. I am not worried about the rabbits as much as Veto., as they are an established merc corp, most of them are less than -2.0 so yeah, they can come after us whenever and wherever they choose. Other than Napht, I have seen only one rabbit as they are almost all -10.
Tiwaz Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2007.02.15 19:05:00 - [161] Edited by: Tiwaz on 15/02/2007 19:01:40 So is this a active one and what are the prime systems. And it both VETO and The Rabbits?. im asking because i want to avoid getting ganked tiw
Jherek Cornelian The Black Rabbits	Posted - 2007.02.15 19:23:00 - [162] Naph plays a character who is 'out of control' an 'extremely sensitive woman' the problem being of course that roleplayers and non roleplayers are now interacting which doesn't really work. Calling her a 'dipstick' in char would be seen as a grave insult, however you weren't in char (as you don't play that way)... but Naph as a roleplayer is really not supposed to come out of character at all, so she had to react and in char that is exactly how she would react. My own character is wracked with guilt for the things he has done and the fact he cannot stand up to Naphtalia to stop her doing stupid things like war deccing a corp that we cannot actually touch (as we are mostly -10 as you quite rightly said. But Naph can't pick and choose when to roleplay and when not to, otherwise it doesn't work. Obviously OOC every man and his dog are going to be calling Naphtalia a dipstick in local and since we can't war dec everyone, she is going to have to swallow her pride and get corpses over a period of time. A fascinating thread actaully, obviously the non roleplayers and new guys are going to believe we are either A. Utterly bonkers or B. Sad bully boys with nothing better to do. The reality is of course, we don't actually care what you think, but this whole thread has certainly amused us and has found pride of place on our own forums (OOC of course). Have fun out there and remember to you it's only a game, but to us, it's a lot less serious than that. JC
Distun	Posted - 2007.02.15 19:27:00 - [163] Sure, make a war 500M ,but while you are at it make a corporation creation fee 5 billion and chars in NPC corps not able to dock anywhere else but their NPC corp stations.
Urduar UrdCorp Enterprises	Posted - 2007.02.15 19:29:00 - [164] Originally by: Tidajin Edited by: Tidajin on 14/02/2007 13:41:29 Edited by: Tidajin on 14/02/2007 13:40:49 I remember someone in eve told me that if you wanted to fire the doomsday device on a minmatar titan you insert a dipstick into the gap in the control panel.. so i guess dipsticks are important So THAT'S why Backdoor Bandit's Discount School for Supercapital Piloting was raided and shut down by the CONCORD authorities! Err... That wasn't a control panel.. And you might want to get your dipstick checked at the nearest medical facilities...
Shalia Ripper Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.02.15 21:45:00 - [165] Screw the Pendulum War, the Dipstick War sounds far more entertaining.
Karlemgne The Black Fleet	Posted - 2007.02.15 21:54:00 - [166] Originally by: T'Renn I'm confused why a corp full of outlaws would pay ISK to dec anyone, and if they did -- what's the big deal? So the black rabbits decced some bears and the bears are emo about. Hey, bears -- head to the nearest .5 system with a bunch of a belts and set up shop for a week. Problem solved - you won't have to worry about any outlaws camping you. Sure, with disposable income some outlaw corp might wardec over being called a dipstick, but you gotta ask if they're willing to grind their sec status up enough to be able to come get you in high sec. I doubt it. Still though, stop smacking pirates in local, people. You don't get anything over on anyone and just look like a retard. You're not saving face, you're losing it. However, the Veto. wardec is something else entirely. I don't know why you got decced by them (besides Verone's mention of RP and "target practice" or whatever) but you might actually have to buy your way out of that one. Oops. Maybe next time you'll STFU in local. Actually, the Black Rabbits smack for more than most bears. -K
ChowBoi Caldari Concealed Judgement	Posted - 2007.02.15 22:31:00 - [167] Originally by: Jherek Cornelian Naph plays a character who is 'out of control' an 'extremely sensitive woman' the problem being of course that roleplayers and non roleplayers are now interacting which doesn't really work. Calling her a 'dipstick' in char would be seen as a grave insult, however you weren't in char (as you don't play that way)... but Naph as a roleplayer is really not supposed to come out of character at all, so she had to react and in char that is exactly how she would react. My own character is wracked with guilt for the things he has done and the fact he cannot stand up to Naphtalia to stop her doing stupid things like war deccing a corp that we cannot actually touch (as we are mostly -10 as you quite rightly said. But Naph can't pick and choose when to roleplay and when not to, otherwise it doesn't work. Obviously OOC every man and his dog are going to be calling Naphtalia a dipstick in local and since we can't war dec everyone, she is going to have to swallow her pride and get corpses over a period of time. A fascinating thread actaully, obviously the non roleplayers and new guys are going to believe we are either A. Utterly bonkers or B. Sad bully boys with nothing better to do. The reality is of course, we don't actually care what you think, but this whole thread has certainly amused us and has found pride of place on our own forums (OOC of course). Have fun out there and remember to you it's only a game, but to us, it's a lot less serious than that. JC Thank you for the insight, I hadn't thought about that side of things before. The RP vs non-RP conundrum is quite difficult to figure out. Some of us that do not RP are just trying to enjoy the game, and are rightly upset when they get jumped by pirates. The idea that "you should know better" and "you shouldn't smack talk" are irrelevant as all that matters is the perception of the beholder. RPing someone that unstable (and doing a fine job of it) would ensure a bad reaction to anyone that Napht attacked. The slight could have been from me re-docking to the station, or the fact that I didn't stay there and let her shoot me. People may say "well that doesn't make sense" but we are dealing with an irrational person so technically anything could have set her off. Now, if her Bio had said something like "Roleplayer - out of control and extremely sensitive woman - you have been warned" this may have played out differently as I would have though... how would my wife respond without large doses of chocolate to being called a dipstick? I know that this whole thread has put a smile on many a faces as my fan mail (and I am sure Napht's) show. So it will just have to go down in eve history as you put it on your killboard "Operation DipStick". Verone, Though I don't agree with the wall of abuse comment, I do see that you wanted just a written apology. It was Napht that kept wanting the 50 million back.
Naphtalia Caldari The Black Rabbits Fatal Persuasion	Posted - 2007.02.15 23:21:00 - [168] Originally by: ChowBoi <snip some sensible stuff> hmmm respect +1 (doesn't mean we gonna stop shooting you, got too many guys pretendign to like concord to enter the war) Originally by: ChowBoi RPing someone that unstable (and doing a fine job of it) would ensure a bad reaction to anyone that Napht attacked. The slight could have been from me re-docking to the station, or the fact that I didn't stay there and let her shoot me. People may say "well that doesn't make sense" but we are dealing with an irrational person so technically anything could have set her off. Actually she was in a bad mood and you were there and said something to catch her attention, but I am unwilling to discuss my IC motivation and the reason for her bad mood at that time.. Though OOC I tried to be reasonable (giving 2 escapes, one before and one after the war) though ofc many will disagree ;P Originally by: ChowBoi Now, if her Bio had said something like "Roleplayer - out of control and extremely sensitive woman - you have been warned" this may have played out differently as I would have though... how would my wife respond without large doses of chocolate to being called a dipstick? Hmmm I will consider that.. see if I can create some room in my bio :P (biolimit ftl) Originally by: ChowBoi I know that this whole thread has put a smile on many a faces as my fan mail (and I am sure Napht's) show. Naph is getting mostly "you are a dipstick" fanmail, which is quite surprising to her and are adding to a lot of tinfoilhat theories that your corp are "up to something" becuase of course "noone reads this forum becuase it doesn't exist... o.O" <---- that is why I preferred the OP to be made on the IGS and we could have done this IC and actually maybe solved the issue there.. then again, JC and I couldn't have responded sensibly as we are doing here. Originally by: ChowBoi So it will just have to go down in eve history as you put it on your killboard "Operation DipStick". Yep, like that campaign title? Originally by: ChowBoi Verone, Though I don't agree with the wall of abuse comment, I do see that you wanted just a written apology. It was Napht that kept wanting the 50 million back. yes 2 wars, 2 different terms to end, and of course a good chance that if one ends the other might end as well.. but seriously we really don't like to debate/negotiate this ICly.. Send us a mail, open a convo, post on the IGS or CAS to reach Naph/Verone... Or Rather, undock and kill us all and destroy our corps, hire mercs.. call your alliance friends you threathened us with... or meet the terms... no need to solve it here.. spoils the fun for all.. See you IG and IC recruitment
ChowBoi Caldari Concealed Judgement	Posted - 2007.02.16 00:02:00 - [169] I will say this, I had been a 'carebear' before just trying to get the gist of the game, attempting to build up some ISK for bigger and better things. The one fight with Belwar was the first PvP I had been in where I wasn't just mining and was actually somewhat prepared for the fight (at least I knew it was coming). The rush that comes along with it was quite intense. Even though I had less than 500K invested in my ship and meager implants, I got a serious jolt that I was even able to strip his shields away to nothing. It put alot of things into perspective as far as PvP. I can understand some of the prat mentality now (as scary as that sounds). I will continue this discussion IG from now on or at least on one of the other boards (now that I know the names are acronyms). Though I would still happily pull the trigger to destroy ship and do vile things to your corpse, I will say "Thanks for making the game interesting!"
Kura Accipter Caldari The Black Rabbits Fatal Persuasion	Posted - 2007.02.16 01:48:00 - [170] I like him Naph
Naphtalia Caldari The Black Rabbits Fatal Persuasion	Posted - 2007.02.16 02:08:00 - [171] Originally by: Kura Accipter I like him Naph You want to keep him? :P yeah I agree not too bad.. still waiting to pay JJ for his corpse.. recruitment
Karlemgne The Black Fleet	Posted - 2007.02.16 02:14:00 - [172] Originally by: Naphtalia Originally by: Kura Accipter I like him Naph You want to keep him? :P yeah I agree not too bad.. still waiting to pay JJ for his corpse.. Excuse me, but you need to respect the original poster, and stay on topic. If you'd like to make a thread about the above, you are free to do so, but, like I said, lets stay on topic please. -Karlemgne
xSLINKYx Gallente Concealed Judgement	Posted - 2007.02.20 21:07:00 - [173] 2007.02.17 14:21 The war between Veto Corp and Concealed Judgement is coming to an end. Veto Corp has retracted the war against Concealed Judgement. The war will be declared as being over after approximately 24 hours. Woot woot But now this confuses me 2007.02.20 18:15 CONCORD has declared this war invalid as it breaches one or more articles in the Yulai Convention.
Shalia Ripper Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.02.20 23:15:00 - [174] Originally by: xSLINKYx 2007.02.20 18:15 CONCORD has declared this war invalid as it breaches one or more articles in the Yulai Convention. Excessive use of the word "dipstick" is a violation.
NiiKleagh	Posted - 2007.02.25 11:00:00 - [175] Edited by: NiiKleagh on 25/02/2007 10:59:33 I don't think the original poster has a leg to stand on. To many of us, AND the developers, Eve was/is centered around PvP. I really don't mind (these fake, fictional) wars over the most arbitrary thing, as that's what is great about the game. Real life, of course, is a different matter. But, heck, I'm all for finding some small clueless corp dreamily mining, or NPC'ing, their mary-jane headed highs away, then declaring war against them just to bring 'em up to speed with the rest of us. Carebears - you gotta love 'em - but, eventually, you gotta teach 'em right. This message has been posted by a non-warring Alt. Have a nice day.
Why'dyou HitMe Minmatar Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.28 08:35:00 - [176] Edited by: Why''dyou HitMe on 28/02/2007 08:36:13 Originally by: Naphtalia Originally by: Kura Accipter I like him Naph You want to keep him? :P yeah I agree not too bad.. still waiting to pay JJ for his corpse.. hehe dipstick I speak for my alliance on this when I say your all dipsticks I will be expecting a war deck soon(tm) blah, just read all the RP stuff... oh well
Thufir Hawats	Posted - 2007.02.28 13:12:00 - [177] Sure makes for fun reading. A friends Corp has a similar situation at hand, but with a twist. Someone of his Corp allegedly insulted Gaven Blands, so Gaven joined an 8 day old For-War Corp (Excel Labs) with his pals Tia Organa and Elesaar, war started yesterday 18:47, the attackers got one unsuspecting miner and his alt (several of the target corps members didn't get the WarDec Mail, EVEmail at its best), but stumbled into a small security fleet of the attacked a bit later. Result: Gaven, Tia and Elesaar jumped corp just about 6 hours after the war got hot. Praise their bravery.
Gaven Blands	Posted - 2007.02.28 15:55:00 - [178] Originally by: Thufir Hawats Sure makes for fun reading. A friends Corp has a similar situation at hand, but with a twist. Someone of his Corp allegedly insulted Gaven Blands, so Gaven joined an 8 day old For-War Corp (Excel Labs) with his pals Tia Organa and Elesaar, war started yesterday 18:47, the attackers got one unsuspecting miner and his alt (several of the target corps members didn't get the WarDec Mail, EVEmail at its best), but stumbled into a small security fleet of the attacked a bit later. Result: Gaven, Tia and Elesaar jumped corp just about 6 hours after the war got hot. Praise their bravery. That's almost correct. You are in fact an alt of a VENUS member. I know which one, but it's not appropriate here. What amazes me, is that VENUS are dec'd for having big flapping mouths they cannot control. Sollit Dude in particular. And yet here they are on the forums... mouths a flappin'. Amazin' The bill to get out of this war just rose again. Keep those mouths going. Eve: Cheats prosper.
Nero Ya'ng Caldari YaFa Empires	Posted - 2007.02.28 16:55:00 - [179] is 'out of control' an 'extremely sensitive woman' so you are roleplaying my ex GF? thats not a good idea and will devo end with war :P
Soporo Caldari	Posted - 2007.02.28 17:48:00 - [180] Edited by: Soporo on 28/02/2007 17:44:44 Alright, I've had enough! EVEYONE HERE IS A ... P O O P Y PANTS! So there, told yall I reckon.

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