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Tomika
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.04.09 11:25:14 -
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I would be grateful for your stuff. |

Tomika
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.04.09 13:38:33 -
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Elvin-Andreas Aldent wrote: This new thing brings in SP that wasn't trained by anyone, but just instead gets rewarded out of thin air.
The SP you already gain is rewarded out of thin air.
When I log back on my character after not playing it for a week, it has more SP than when I logged off. Where does it come from? |

Tomika
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.04.10 09:41:13 -
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Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:Mdm Curie wrote:I think this is great idea.
Would reward those who do something. Going to a belt killing a tray and docking back up is not really doing something
It literally is doing something. |

Tomika
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.04.10 18:21:32 -
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Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:Same
And considering the majority of new players I talk to have the sp to branch out but are to afraid to lose ships this would probably be better for them
And it would scale better if it was say 10 mil that's alot to a new bro and definitely worth logging in every day but after a few months you make 2x that in an hr letting you be free to do what you want without worrying about them
With SP the older you are the more the sp is worth do to the diminishing returns of skill injectors. The sp fir a vet is I worth 3x as much as it is for a new player But this is not for new players this is fit ccps numbers
55 posts you made already in this thread, and they're becoming increasingly illegible. Maybe it's time for a break? |

Tomika
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.04.11 10:42:17 -
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Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:so your okay with ccp telling people how to play
They are not telling you how to play. You are just being a drama queen. |

Tomika
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.04.11 14:27:48 -
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TinkerHell wrote:Just no. I do not want to login each of my characters in everyday to kill a rat.
Don't then. |

Tomika
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.04.12 07:57:34 -
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All these posts even though CCP is just gonna go ahead and implement the changes anyway  |

Tomika
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.04.12 09:38:13 -
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Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:Telling me what to do and forcing me to play when I don't want is not a sand box is a job
Putting an optional thing in the game is neither telling you what to do nor forcing you to play. |

Tomika
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.04.12 09:52:42 -
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Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:Tomika wrote:Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:Telling me what to do and forcing me to play when I don't want is not a sand box is a job Putting an optional thing in the game is neither telling you what to do nor forcing you to play. As stated b4 what it is doesn't matter it's what it feels like that matters And loosing 10ksp a day is a hell of a way to make it feel non-optional
Ah, so we've gone from "I am being forced" to "well it doesn't matter if we're being forced or not". So you accept that you are not actually being forced to do anything, despite what you wrote previously.
There are lots of things in the game we can do optimally to gain the best results but we don't always do them because... we don't have to. |

Tomika
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.04.12 10:23:10 -
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Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:The reasons dailies work is because they make people who are not doing them feel punished that's not good for a sand box ccp should not be telling people how to play
I thought we agreed they are not actually telling you how to play  |

Tomika
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.04.12 10:24:15 -
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baltec1 wrote:It's punishing me for not logging in every day. One of the core concepts of eve is that you can train SP at the same rate no matter how much time you have to play.
That ended with injectors. |

Tomika
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.04.12 10:25:32 -
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Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:It's why you don't need to grind in eve
Standings say hi. |

Tomika
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.04.12 11:52:12 -
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Lan Wang wrote:Tomika wrote:Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:It's why you don't need to grind in eve Standings say hi. keyword here "need" standings don't provide a benefit over anyone else
You don't "need" to gain 10k extra SP a day either. |

Tomika
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.04.12 12:22:16 -
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Lan Wang wrote:standings arent relevant to me, sp is relevant to everyone
That does not translate to "I need to go and kill a rat for more SP". If you choose to do nothing, literally nothing will change for you. You will still gain SP as fast as you were previously.
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Tomika
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.04.12 14:16:12 -
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Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:sure something has changed i'm now 10ksp behind for the day compaired to the person who was able to do it
And? |

Tomika
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.04.12 22:34:02 -
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This thread is full of people essentially complaining that they are hopeless addicts with no willpower to resist operant conditioning. |

Tomika
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.04.13 08:04:38 -
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Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:Tomika wrote:This thread is full of people essentially complaining that they are hopeless addicts with no willpower to resist operant conditioning. you understand there is a difference between being addicted and conditioned right?
If you are neither addicted nor weak willed there is no reason for you to whine about being 'forced' to do something. |

Tomika
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.04.13 15:03:50 -
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Alright I'll be honest. Seeing that gives me a bad feeling.
I've poked a bit of fun at some complainers in the thread (Sorry. It's a character flaw, what can I say) but really... you are right. This kind of sucks.
Just like the dailies and garrison gold missions in WoW, the mere existence of this new 'opportunity' will act like a tiny itch that you want to ignore but can't because you'd be dumb not to just reach and scratch it.
I mean, I will do those missions because I'd be dumb not to, right? But the fact it's going to put something unwanted on my to-do list bugs me. Hell, I don't even have a to-do list in EVE. But now I will. |

Tomika
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.04.16 16:31:04 -
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CCP has the perennial problem of finding ways to motivate players in a sandbox. People say "make the game more fun to play instead of forcing me to log in for my 10K SP" but what exactly does "more fun" look like? |

Tomika
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.04.16 17:34:14 -
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Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:Tomika wrote:CCP has the perennial problem of finding ways to motivate players in a sandbox. People say "make the game more fun to play instead of forcing me to log in for my 10K SP" but what exactly does "more fun" look like? ... if they can't figure that one out what the hell am I paying them for. I mean it is literally their job
Problem is, Lugh, there are a lot of voices on the forums who feel EVE should be a particular way and that it should never change. It's gotta be tough to satisfy those people whilst making EVE more fun to play. |
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