surprised at the anal comments by vets

get my grind on

This too would be a better way to handle incentivizing people to log into EVE. But you would want to tie the incentive to the duration of logon itself.

eve already has grind to skill with injectors

The "answer" to the whole thread should be "sorry, don't know what we were thinking, please forget we ever mentioned it". Your reply sounds precisely like "we're going to do it regardless so we're preparing soothing statements".

The blog sparked a really great discussion in the EVE community. We decided to be fairly hands off and see where it would lead without us trying to persuade anyone. We werenGÇÖt sure exactly what to expect but it quickly became clear that many of you were able to see the potential benefits and that youGÇÖre also ready for some big changes in EVE, especially when they might help bring in newer players or give you more freedom with your own characters.

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The grind model was added with injectors. This just opens it up more to poorer/newer players instead of keeping it the realm of veteran / rich players.

To be fair, anybody with more free time can do more stuff in EVE (or any game, for that matter) than those of us who don't have/don't want to dedicate so much time.

Excellent, CCP! More like this please.

Powercreep is a game killer, this will help retain the newbies by battling powercreep and dailies are VERY addictive and enjoyable as anyone who plays WoW can tell you. Having a little routine in Eve will make it worth staying subbed to.

Senior players have nothing to complain about here in my opinion, they don't know what life is like in Eve fighting people with vastly superior skills. Identical fit-to-fit you cannot win against someone with a decade of skills even if your twitch is greater. This is not fair, but fair is not the issue and never was, it just makes for a boring game for both sides.

News flash: DAILIES are not required! If you feel that you are being forced to acquire an additional 4million skill points (total gained during the year) by doing dailies your whole argument is asinine!

At least is more than "doh, only got 20 minutes, won't bother loggin in to EVE since there's nothing I could accomplish in so little time".

The first 15 or so pages of this had no decent critique against the idea. What's the issue now?

CCP Rise has clearly forgotten what Eve is about since he joined the development team.

"Do I really want to let a pc game control my every day life?"

So this leads us to where we are now, attempting to find ways to create more logins that also don't feel like such a punishment as the skill queue limitations did.

You get the reward for the one you do and that's where it ends. You don't lose anything for not logging.

Character with no active queue or no skill in an active queue are not penalized, they get exactly what they should. You think you are penalized because you fell entitled to those SP.

That does not mean you were penalized for failing the requirement of having an active training queue and an skill queued. Just that CCP wanted us to more easily fulfill one of those requirement.

So this leads us to where we are now, attempting to find ways to create more logins that also don't feel like such a punishment as the skill queue limitations did.