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Ralph King-Griffin Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance 15047	Posted - 2016.04.11 08:53:44 - [61] - Quote Pleasure Hub Node-514 wrote: .jpg Carefull now, treading the line with that regarding the forum policy private communication. Better the Devil you know. =]\|[=
Lan Wang Knights of the Posing Meat FETID 2641	Posted - 2016.04.11 08:56:38 - [62] - Quote wish someone would place bounties on me :( dunno how many pods i have to smartbomb but i never get bountied FETID now recruiting pvp pilots & corporations \| lowsec pvp & piracy - Join FETID Loyalist to Angel Cartel & Serpentis
Bunnie Hop Bunny Knights 600	Posted - 2016.04.11 11:01:29 - [63] - Quote I chat in local all the time, though there are very few who are willing to reply. One guy even said 'well I will take the risk of getting ganked, but Hi back at you'. Unless you are sitting in a hulk in middle of idiot territory, er I mean code territory, don't worry about chatting with people.
Petra Hakaari Relentless Terrorism Separatists 135	Posted - 2016.04.11 11:20:33 - [64] - Quote If you wanna be social, local definetly aint the place to do so... Because tities .
Barrogh Habalu Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire 1123	Posted - 2016.04.11 11:53:04 - [65] - Quote Arras Denard wrote: I appreciate your comment. I really do. But sadly this too just proves my point. Open communication is punished in EVE. I don't see how something that does nothing is a punishment. Can you please break it down for me? Future of T3 cruisers - multi-tool they aspired to be instead of sledgehammer they have become
Lan Wang Knights of the Posing Meat FETID 2644	Posted - 2016.04.11 11:54:21 - [66] - Quote can you detail what you say in chat to be bountied? i have litterally tried everything FETID now recruiting pvp pilots & corporations \| lowsec pvp & piracy - Join FETID Loyalist to Angel Cartel & Serpentis
Lord Ra Section XII The Southern Querious Drug Cartel 52	Posted - 2016.04.11 12:45:47 - [67] - Quote "Dreddit is recruiting"?
Omar Alharazaad Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 2834	Posted - 2016.04.11 13:02:54 - [68] - Quote Ralph King-Griffin wrote: Pleasure Hub Node-514 wrote: .jpg Carefull now, treading the line with that regarding the forum policy private communication. Sad though that someone would bail for such trivial reasons. Oh well, heat... kitchens and whatnot. Seriously, drop this in GD and NOT expect a dreckstorm? Either OP is intentionally dense, is trolling, or is simply indulging in some kind of martyrdom complex. Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
Saint Michaels Soul Coreli Corporation Mercenary Coalition 26	Posted - 2016.04.11 13:48:41 - [69] - Quote After getting involved in a Twitter conversation with a couple of people who think we've somehow, as a player base, "failed" this person, I felt the need to lay out, in a longer medium, why no-one has failed except for this player. 1. If you're afraid to chat or be social, who have you been chatting with? Was it the first few people that were talking loudly in your NPC corp? Was it the loud shouty people in Local? Perhaps, just perhaps you should look at their comments/posts and maybe use your basic intuition and social skills to establish that maybe these aren't the chaps for you. Let's say you like mining, why not have a look around the system you mine in and see who is doing a similar activity? Perhaps that's the soul mate you're looking for? Let's say you want to get started in solo PvP ... well chat to the people that kill you every time and ask their advice; Chances are that they have the same mindset to you. Like in real life, if you find that someone is a moron or *******, move on and find people you can get on with. With one single exception everyone I've ever had pvp fights with is happy to talk fits, tactics etc. 2. A lack of understanding of the game system is something only you can fix. The way you fix that is by research and asking questions. If you don't understand something like a bounty, look it up; In this case you'll find its a largely useless system which has been left to rot on the shelf. It has almost zero in-game effect, won't make anyone attack you and pretty much just puts a wanted tagline on your portrait. Some of the most philanthropic characters in the game have massive bounties; Look at Mike Azariah, Chribba etc. If you're not willing to look up information or engage with people (like in this thread) who are trying to help, you've got no hope. Eve is meant to be complex and it rewards people that understand that. 3. Being tough. Being prepared for setback, loss and humiliation in Eve and bouncing back from all of that will make you a good player. You will lose. Again and again. If you can't take someone putting a bounty on you for a laugh, how will you cope with losing your first 50 ships? How will you react when you're ganked? What about when the corp you've built for years has everything nicked by a trusted friend? What about when someone AWOXes your entire capital fleet? Get tough. 4. Approach everything in Eve like you would social encounters in RL. No-one is there to help you, unless that's their job, or they know you. There are lots of noob friendly organisations in Eve and you need to find them. Randomly talking to people in local, or in the NPC corps is akin to chatting to that insane drunk bloke who lives in a doorway down the road and shouts to themselves a lot - They might indeed know some things and have some interesting points, but they aren't the person you want to take advice from about how to live your life. The people most likely to be visible & chatty in the NPC corps are people that can't find a home anywhere "normal". Everyone else in the NPC corps that are quiet? They are hauling or industry alts. They won't talk to you because they are currently running at least 3 other clients and chatting to their actual mates in sane corps. From running a 250 man noob focussed corp, you can tell the players that are likely to "make it" in New Eden from your first chat with them - They are the ones that ask non-stop questions about the game system, the ones that understand that someone taking the mickey is an opportunity to take the mickey back, not dissolve in tears at what the bad man said to me in a computer game. They are the ones who want to do stuff to see what happens. They are the ones with the funny killboards that wanted to try something. They are the ones that don't get put off by a challenge. Everyone that's still playing eve, well done. You're the right kind of gamer.
Pleasure Hub Node-514 Pleasure Hub Hotline 80	Posted - 2016.04.11 14:36:26 - [70] - Quote Saint Michaels Soul wrote: "Says spot on things" insert citizen kane epic clap.gif *'One night hauler'* The tell all story of a pleasure bot in Jita 4-4
David Therman University of Caille Gallente Federation 132	Posted - 2016.04.11 16:59:19 - [71] - Quote Saint Michaels Soul wrote: 3. Being tough. Being prepared for setback, loss and humiliation in Eve and bouncing back from all of that will make you a good player. You will lose. Again and again. If you can't take someone putting a bounty on you for a laugh, how will you cope with losing your first 50 ships? How will you react when you're ganked? What about when the corp you've built for years has everything nicked by a trusted friend? What about when someone AWOXes your entire capital fleet? Get tough. This bit struck me in particular, because not so long ago a fellow corp member was doing what the OP was complaining about; putting a simple bounty of 123,456 on each character that spoke up in corp chat, or whenever he spotted someone from corp in local. He's not a bad guy by any stretch of the imagination, and at first I thought he was just horsing around, but looking back now it was serving as a litmus test of sorts. Bearing in mind that new players are only starting to get to grips with the basic game mechanics, that they don't know that the bounty mechanic is inherently broken, and that they would probably assume bounties are bad, the reaction to getting bountied was a good method to see if they could cope once the going got tough, and can be broken up into 3 groups; 1. Silence/Unresponsive: A myriad of reasons for this, so you can't really make any firm conclusions. 2. Humorous/Curious: When they pipe up with questions/statements like "are bounties bad?" "omg why did he bounty me? help! D:" (without resorting to cussing) or "I'm a wanted man now! FEAR ME YOU SEADOGS!!", I usually think they're going to do just fine. 3. Anger/Rage: The ones who'll fly off the proverbial rail without first considering whatever it is that's happened, only that it has happened, swearing aplenty. With those, I got the feeling that they wouldn't be able to take more then a loss or two and with a couple of them I saw first-hand that, indeed, they couldn't cut it. Slightly unrelated, but I've just noticed that I no longer have a bounty on my head. Could anyone be so kind as to correct that? I'm missing that warm, fuzzy feeling.
Kamahl Daikun Back To Basics. Tactical Supremacy 126	Posted - 2016.04.11 17:04:16 - [72] - Quote "I'm afraid to be social because of the mean words other people say to me!" Grow up.
Pandora Carrollon Kingsman Tailors 151	Posted - 2016.04.11 19:54:16 - [73] - Quote To a point, we all have a responsibility to be verbally civil with one another. You can be uncivil in EVE with your weapons systems, market schemes, and play style... perfectly acceptable and part of the game. I do read a lot of garbage in this forum that is intended to offend and/or be 'mean' just to elevate the ego/self conceit of the person posting the comment. That kind of mean-ness is just a form of selfishness that makes the poster look like a puffed up fool or bully. Pointing it out to them is the best response, not being offended by it, that gives them the power they are looking for. Be secure in your own self. Being secure means that nobody can offend you unless you allow them to. It means you are strong enough to admit when you make mistakes and it means that truth is easier to seek and live by. Once you find that inner 'you' that is strong, everything else becomes far less of a challenge. Be Positive GÇó Change yourself first, New Eden will come later GÇó EVE is Awesome GÇó CCP isn't the enemy GÇó Players are people too GÇó Where're the clothing blueprints GÇó Yeah, I'm still learning this game -- Pandora's Rules to EVE by
Ashlar Maidstone MoonFyre StarBurst Pirateers Mafia Horde 223	Posted - 2016.04.11 23:13:43 - [74] - Quote Hi OP, just thought I would throw a little something for you. As others may have already said, being socialable is what you make of it, I would gladly chat with you anytime day or night and even go so far as helping with various aspects of the game. There are really wonderful helpful peoplle who will go out of their way to help in any way possible and to get you feeling comfortable in any given situation, best of luck!
Wexiz Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2016.04.12 00:12:04 - [75] - Quote Trader20 wrote: Main reason why I post on the forums with an alt, don't desire a wanted title like my other char got from a disagreement on the forums. The wanted title is more of a roleplaying title then a "badass" detector. I do enjoy riling up chars with 666666666 isk bounties though Best way on these forums is to use an alt regardless of what you say, because they will hound you in-game.
Lulu Lunette ThinkTank Phoenix TOG - The Older Gamers Alliance 356	Posted - 2016.04.12 00:32:40 - [76] - Quote Some very strange viewpoints here.. lol It's not just here though, I've been told by corpmates to not talk in local. (Not my current corp but previous ones) @lunettelulu7
Wexiz Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2016.04.12 00:39:15 - [77] - Quote Lulu Lunette wrote: Some very strange viewpoints here.. lol It's not just here though, I've been told by corpmates to not talk in local. (Not my current corp but previous ones) Not really strange. If someone uses the forum frequently and has a differing opinion on how the game should be, then if they hound them in-game they stand a chance of driving them from the game and hence removing those other opinions from the forums. Which is why it's always better to use an alt, then if you say something they don't want to hear you are not putting your main at risk.
Pix Severus Empty You 3879	Posted - 2016.04.12 02:50:41 - [78] - Quote Wexiz wrote: Best way on these forums is to use an alt regardless of what someone says, because they will hound you in-game. I've posted all kinds of terrible things on this forum for years and I've never once been contacted in-game about anything I've said here, let alone been "hounded". A forum regular once sent me a couple of ships for Christmas, because I, too, was a forum regular, and that's it. This place isn't as bad as people think it is. -ì-ä-à -£-à+¦-äGêâ-Ç
Elmund Egivand Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 1099	Posted - 2016.04.12 03:22:56 - [79] - Quote A little tip about that bounty, given by someone who gets meaningless bounties on himself from time to time that gets cleared out within the month: Bounties do not immediately make you FFA in high sec. If someone tries to collect the bounty on you while in high sec while you still have either above -5 security status or you haven't a kill right activated on you, they will be shot by CONCORD. (Doesn't stop gankers from killing your ship with ten Catalysts though. The massed DPS on these things are ridiculous). Also, people dropping bounties on you doesn't necessarily mean you are hated. I got bounties placed on me from time to time when saying stuff on local. Don't know whether I insulted the person, or whether he found me funny, or he was horsing around. Probably will never know. A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Loki O'Grady GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 26	Posted - 2016.04.12 06:45:47 - [80] - Quote Lan Wang wrote: can you detail what you say in chat to be bountied? i have litterally tried everything Hello spacefriend, I have to go get some groceries now but I promise I will log in later and place a bounty on you because you asked nicely :3
Lan Wang Knights of the Posing Meat FETID 2654	Posted - 2016.04.12 06:46:39 - [81] - Quote Wexiz wrote: Trader20 wrote: Main reason why I post on the forums with an alt, don't desire a wanted title like my other char got from a disagreement on the forums. The wanted title is more of a roleplaying title then a "badass" detector. I do enjoy riling up chars with 666666666 isk bounties though Best way on these forums is to use an alt regardless of what someone says, because they will hound you in-game. never been hounded in game because i talk on the forums, i doubt any other person who uses a main has the same experience either so i dont agree with that point at all FETID now recruiting pvp pilots & corporations \| lowsec pvp & piracy - Join FETID Loyalist to Angel Cartel & Serpentis
Agondray Avenger Mercenaries VOID Intergalactic Forces 342	Posted - 2016.04.12 07:00:07 - [82] - Quote Shayla Etherodyne wrote: AFAIK you need a negative standing to have a bounty placed on your character. A bit of ratting will keep that danger at bay. yeah no I have a 5.0 standing and I get bounties put on me "Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mind." -Dr. Smith
Loki O'Grady GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 27	Posted - 2016.04.12 08:26:26 - [83] - Quote Lan Wang wrote: Wexiz wrote: Trader20 wrote: Main reason why I post on the forums with an alt, don't desire a wanted title like my other char got from a disagreement on the forums. The wanted title is more of a roleplaying title then a "badass" detector. I do enjoy riling up chars with 666666666 isk bounties though Best way on these forums is to use an alt regardless of what someone says, because they will hound you in-game. never been hounded in game because i talk on the forums, i doubt any other person who uses a main has the same experience either so i dont agree with that point at all Hello you are a proper pirate now with a price on your head yes :yarr:
George Gouillot Black Fox Marauders 101	Posted - 2016.04.12 08:39:15 - [84] - Quote Lulu Lunette wrote: Some very strange viewpoints here.. lol It's not just here though, I've been told by corpmates to not talk in local. (Not my current corp but previous ones) That is proper advice living in a WH ...
Lan Wang Knights of the Posing Meat FETID 2654	Posted - 2016.04.12 08:42:32 - [85] - Quote Loki O'Grady wrote: Lan Wang wrote: Wexiz wrote: Trader20 wrote: Main reason why I post on the forums with an alt, don't desire a wanted title like my other char got from a disagreement on the forums. The wanted title is more of a roleplaying title then a "badass" detector. I do enjoy riling up chars with 666666666 isk bounties though Best way on these forums is to use an alt regardless of what someone says, because they will hound you in-game. never been hounded in game because i talk on the forums, i doubt any other person who uses a main has the same experience either so i dont agree with that point at all Hello you are a proper pirate now with a price on your head yes :yarr: fck yeah! thanks friend!!! FETID now recruiting pvp pilots & corporations \| lowsec pvp & piracy - Join FETID Loyalist to Angel Cartel & Serpentis
Darth Terona Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo 243	Posted - 2016.04.12 08:58:22 - [86] - Quote Lan Wang wrote: Wexiz wrote: Trader20 wrote: Main reason why I post on the forums with an alt, don't desire a wanted title like my other char got from a disagreement on the forums. The wanted title is more of a roleplaying title then a "badass" detector. I do enjoy riling up chars with 666666666 isk bounties though Best way on these forums is to use an alt regardless of what someone says, because they will hound you in-game. never been hounded in game because i talk on the forums, i doubt any other person who uses a main has the same experience either so i dont agree with that point at all Agreed And I've said some stupid **** too. Never been hounded for it
Darth Terona Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo 243	Posted - 2016.04.12 09:03:07 - [87] - Quote Wexiz wrote: Lulu Lunette wrote: Some very strange viewpoints here.. lol It's not just here though, I've been told by corpmates to not talk in local. (Not my current corp but previous ones) Not really strange. If someone uses the forum frequently and has a differing opinion on how the game should be, then if they hound them in-game they stand a chance of driving them from the game and hence removing those other opinions from the forums. Which is why it's always better to use an alt, then if you say something they don't want to hear you are not putting your main at risk. Sadly risk adversion stretches to forum posts as well. Take all the fights and speak your mind. The hell with death and consequence. Your immortal. Live like it!
Wexiz Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2016.04.12 13:31:29 - [88] - Quote Lan Wang wrote: Wexiz wrote: Trader20 wrote: Main reason why I post on the forums with an alt, don't desire a wanted title like my other char got from a disagreement on the forums. The wanted title is more of a roleplaying title then a "badass" detector. I do enjoy riling up chars with 666666666 isk bounties though Best way on these forums is to use an alt regardless of what someone says, because they will hound you in-game. never been hounded in game because i talk on the forums, i doubt any other person who uses a main has the same experience either so i dont agree with that point at all Well from experience I've had 2 characters hounded over the years because of the forums. Why do you think some people say post with your main, because they really care who you are? No because they would know who your character is in-game so they can take action against it. My point was that you are better posting with an alt so that if anyone wants to be petty over the forums they can't take it in-game.
Nat Silverguard Aideron Robotics 422	Posted - 2016.04.12 13:36:30 - [89] - Quote Wexiz wrote: Well from experience I've had 2 characters hounded over the years because of the forums. Why do you think some people say post with your main, because they really care who you are? No because they would know who your character is in-game so they can take action against it. My point was that you are better posting with an alt so that if anyone wants to be petty over the forums they can't take it in-game. how can they exactly hound you? then hound them back, what's the problem? Just Add Water
Wexiz Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2016.04.12 13:53:40 - [90] - Quote Nat Silverguard wrote: Wexiz wrote: Well from experience I've had 2 characters hounded over the years because of the forums. Why do you think some people say post with your main, because they really care who you are? No because they would know who your character is in-game so they can take action against it. My point was that you are better posting with an alt so that if anyone wants to be petty over the forums they can't take it in-game. how can they exactly hound you? then hound them back, what's the problem? I nearly didn't answer this as you seem to have played for awhile and should be aware of how it could and was done. Tracker agents Watch-lists (now removed I believe) even with them gone it still can be done although if they don't log on often it would be a problem. Removing watch-lists was one of the better changes. As for hounds them back, that's not even worth answering.

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