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Eli Stan
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
450
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Posted - 2016.04.12 18:17:58 -
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Wexiz wrote:Lan Wang wrote:Wexiz wrote:Trader20 wrote:Main reason why I post on the forums with an alt, don't desire a wanted title like my other char got from a disagreement on the forums. The wanted title is more of a roleplaying title then a "badass" detector. I do enjoy riling up chars with 666666666 isk bounties though Best way on these forums is to use an alt regardless of what someone says, because they will hound you in-game. never been hounded in game because i talk on the forums, i doubt any other person who uses a main has the same experience either so i dont agree with that point at all Well from experience I've had 2 characters hounded over the years because of the forums. Why do you think some people say post with your main, because they really care who you are? No because they would know who your character is in-game so they can take action against it. My point was that you are better posting with an alt so that if anyone wants to be petty over the forums they can't take it in-game. That's weird. This character is my main, and I use it not only here but also on FHC and reddit, and I've never gotten in-game grief for any of my postings. And I think I've gotten more bounties placed on me by fleetmates and friendly neighbors than anybody trying to bother me.
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Eli Stan
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
450
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Posted - 2016.04.12 18:27:43 -
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Arras Denard wrote:I have dabbled with EVE for several years now, but each time I return, I feel like if I speak in local or NPC corp chat, or any of the other channels, I am punished. The bounty system is so easily abused because chatting leads to random people placing a bounty on my head.
Now, I am a carebear, through and through. A simple check of my kill to death ration can confirm that. I also spend a great deal of time either mining or exploring. I make no apologies for it. But in an MMO that should encourage communication between players, one of the first rules of EVE is "don't speak." Yeah, I know I can chat to my hearts content and just accept random bounties placed on my head, but that just places a bigger mark on my head.
Anyway, I don't think removing the bounty system is the solution, but it would be nice if I could chat while having my fun without being labeled WANTED just for trying to be social in a social game.
Well, my 10 frees days is up soon and I am not sure I will sub again yet. But while playing for the last 9 days, it occurred to me that this is one of those nagging features of EVE that I don't enjoy. I like being social, but being penalized for it really sucks.
Fly safe. When I first started playing EVE, I didn't know anybody else who played. So for a while I didn't communicate with anybody whatsoever. Then I discovered the NPSI lifestyle - no API checks, no corp commitment, no application fee scam, just a group of folks working together for mutual benefit. It was really easy then to start chatting, learning, and building social connections, and now I can't imagine being anywhere else. As a carebear, look up CASMA, the CAS Mining Alliance, which isn't actually an alliance, rather it's a group of cooperative folks doing carebear stuff together. They would be happy to answer questions, help you out, do group ops together, etc. http://www.cascorporation.com/cas_resources.html
Stories like yours are the reason I think the drive some have to punish players for staying in their starter corp is really bad for the game, and instead CCP should be looking to enhance the capabilities of these loose social groups like CASMA and CCG. |
Meryl SinGarda
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
921
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Posted - 2016.04.12 21:27:06 -
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When you get a bounty, have one of your friends kill you and then split the cash. Unless of course you like the cool [WANTED] sign on your portrait
GÖÑ Intergalactic Serial Killer GÖÑ
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OverlordY
Interspan
35
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Posted - 2016.04.12 21:42:00 -
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Talking in any channel anywere results in war dec on you and bounty spamm. |
Vortexo VonBrenner
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
2304
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Posted - 2016.04.12 21:50:12 -
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Meryl SinGarda wrote:When you get a bounty, have one of your friends kill you and then split the cash. Unless of course you like the cool [WANTED] sign on your portrait
Doesn't work that way anymore. You would only get 20% of the value of ship destroyed taken from your bounty.
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Meryl SinGarda
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
921
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Posted - 2016.04.12 21:57:02 -
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Vortexo VonBrenner wrote:Meryl SinGarda wrote:When you get a bounty, have one of your friends kill you and then split the cash. Unless of course you like the cool [WANTED] sign on your portrait Doesn't work that way anymore. You would only get 20% of the value of ship destroyed taken from your bounty.
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaat
Okay I need to go read some updates notes or something
GÖÑ Intergalactic Serial Killer GÖÑ
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Wexiz
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.04.12 23:11:32 -
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Vortexo VonBrenner wrote:Meryl SinGarda wrote:When you get a bounty, have one of your friends kill you and then split the cash. Unless of course you like the cool [WANTED] sign on your portrait Doesn't work that way anymore. You would only get 20% of the value of ship destroyed taken from your bounty.
Bounty system is a waste of time anyway, if they want to hound you it wouldn't be the in-game bounty system they would use.
But doesn't really matter to me now as I'm not even really playing the game or any other game and as time goes by it's looking like it will remain that way.
But my advice would still be you're better off just using an alt to post, keeping the forum separate to the game. |
Darth Terona
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
247
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Posted - 2016.04.12 23:38:56 -
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OverlordY wrote:Talking in any channel anywere results in war dec on you and bounty spamm.
Not in my experience. Don't know what makes me so different than you.? |
Wexiz
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.04.12 23:48:22 -
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Darth Terona wrote:OverlordY wrote:Talking in any channel anywere results in war dec on you and bounty spamm. Not in my experience. Don't know what makes me so different than you.?
If you are in an NPC corp. with no bounty, you will more than likely get a small bounty placed on you, even if you just say 'Hi' in corp. chat.
I doubt they will give a bounty to those that are likely to lose that bounty. So really it's meant to target PvE players where that bounty can stay for a very long time. |
Darth Terona
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
248
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Posted - 2016.04.13 00:17:15 -
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Wait. I'm being left out because I pvp. Heart breaks
I demand equalit naow!
... Wait. How do you know I pvp? Never pvp in my life. Always pve (everyone) |
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Darth Terona
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
248
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Posted - 2016.04.13 00:22:34 -
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Funnies aside, the op is a lost cause. Just looking for a reason to leave. Nothing lost on our end
To others having the same issue; 1. Bounties are pointless. It's a bonus for killing you. Not an incentive 2. Find a Corp that supports your play style. Plenty of good chaps out there 3. It's just a game. Don't sweat the small stuff |
Wexiz
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2016.04.13 00:33:49 -
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Darth Terona wrote:Wait. I'm being left out because I pvp. Heart breaks
I demand equalit naow!
... Wait. How do you know I pvp? Never pvp in my life. Always pve (everyone)
Well you're not in an NPC corp.
Typically those small bounties are aimed at NPC corps, where a player says something and those that place that type of bounty check to see what bounty they have, if they have a 0 bounty they then add a token bounty. If they have a token bounty already then they most likely won't get another.
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Lulu Lunette
ThinkTank Phoenix TOG - The Older Gamers Alliance
363
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Posted - 2016.04.13 00:42:30 -
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George Gouillot wrote:Lulu Lunette wrote:Some very strange viewpoints here.. lol It's not just here though, I've been told by corpmates to not talk in local. (Not my current corp but previous ones) That is proper advice living in a WH ...
Wormhole etiquette?
@lunettelulu7
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Shallanna Yassavi
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
124
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Posted - 2016.04.13 00:48:46 -
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Lulu Lunette wrote:George Gouillot wrote:Lulu Lunette wrote:Some very strange viewpoints here.. lol It's not just here though, I've been told by corpmates to not talk in local. (Not my current corp but previous ones) That is proper advice living in a WH ... Wormhole etiquette? Nope, free intel for anyone else who wants to kill someone.
Or bait for a trap. All you need to do is forget to rename your ship before you talk in local, and someone will probably bite.
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George Gouillot
Black Fox Marauders
103
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Posted - 2016.04.14 09:32:52 -
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Shallanna Yassavi wrote: Or bait for a trap. All you need to do is rename your Orthrus into "[insert your name]'s Hulk" before you talk in local, and someone will probably bite.
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Brokk Witgenstein
Extreme Agony The Wraithguard.
230
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Posted - 2016.04.15 05:21:52 -
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Arras Denard wrote:I have dabbled with EVE for several years now, but each time I return, I feel like if I speak in local or NPC corp chat, or any of the other channels, I am punished. The bounty system is so easily abused because chatting leads to random people placing a bounty on my head. PANIC NOT!
A bounty means doodley squat.
It does not give anyone the right to kill you -- the word you want to google is "killrights". Bounties are fine - they just send a notification to the bounty owner that you have died, when you do. |
Herr Eismann
Lonetrek Blacksoul Federation The Methodical Alliance
3
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Posted - 2016.04.15 09:14:18 -
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+1 to the "bounties aren't a threat" train
I have cyclically left and returned to the game for 8 or so years now, and I believe the halved average of players on TQ at a given time has made high-sec (where you live, I'm assuming) feel a bit more dangerous, at least. It's all down to perception. While most are going to advise that you join a Corp (which I do believe to be a quick solution to some of the grievances you've stated,) I still believe it is feasible to play solo and feel like you're in the social environment you want. How exactly... I'm probably not the best authority. This game really is unique, though. I hope you stick around.
Lt. Col. Ret. Caldari State Protectorate
Deceitful Illumination; Vain Brightness, Keeper of the Dabble Way; Enemy to Enemies of Selves
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Ozzie Udan
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
377
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Posted - 2016.04.15 21:18:31 -
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Please keep up the bounties on code gankers, add in the loot it keeps my men going, ecm burst on a gank fleet sure adds up in pay outs together with the odd thank you payment from freighter pilots.
A soft answer turneth away wrath. Once wrath is looking the other way, shoot it in the head.
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Mithandra
Catastrophic Operations RAZOR Alliance
527
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Posted - 2016.04.18 17:43:21 -
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A bounty is the EVE version of a savings account. Short on cash , get a friend to kill you and share the largesse
Eve is the dark haired, totally hot emo gothchild of the gaming community
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Darth Terona
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
251
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Posted - 2016.04.18 20:14:16 -
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It don't work that way
Only pays out percentage of isk lost in a kill. |
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Sentry 10
Escape Velocity
45
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Posted - 2016.04.19 01:04:22 -
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Seems to me OP's problem is "afraid to be social"
In my 6 years in Eve I have never seen anything like "punished to chat" as the OP suggests. What chat channel is OP posting in that gets punished?
I say "hi" in NPC corp chat and usually meet friendly people there. Same with HELP channel, Local, or any other channel.
I think OP just has social anxiety |
Beatrix Ski
Beyond New Frontier The Amish Mafia
0
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Posted - 2016.04.19 11:20:28 -
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I must say i have the exact opposite experience from what OP have.
I'm a dedicated explorer, and might at times be a bit too chatty in local. Still i daily meet other explorers in quiet systems, and have a chat with them.
It usually turns out to us sharing and dividing sites, as non of us really want a confrontation while going about our business. I have met plenty of nice, rational, polite, and helpful explorers in my short eve career. After some time in the same systems, one even get to know some of the other guys, and can trust them more.
Anyway, if you see me around, don't be afraid to have a chat. I'll gladly give you some helpful intel on the way too.
- If you meet my alt tho...
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Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat FETID
2722
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Posted - 2016.04.19 12:55:55 -
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Mithandra wrote:A bounty is the EVE version of a savings account. Short on cash , get a friend to kill you and share the largesse
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