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Rinai Vero Moira. Villore Accords 738	Posted - 2016.04.11 14:46:27 - [1] - Quote Villore VII - Senate Bureau -á "The Federation is not a defined region of space, of planets, of mountains, rivers, or woods. It is a vision.GÇ¥ - President of the Federation, Arlette Villers. CE 23154.6.2 My fellow Captains loyal to the Federation, In the two centuries that have followed President VillersGÇÖ inspiring words, his vision has become more relevant with every passing decade. Now, as capsuleers across New Eden gain more and greater power, those of us loyal to the values and spirit of the Federation carry that vision with us to the edges of known space and beyond. As Federal capsuleers, we have unique opportunities in the galaxy, and unique perspectives. Many of us participate in venues like the Intergalactic Summit in order to express ourselves, and to learn from and debate with our peers on matters of galactic importance. But what of the Federation itself, and our role within it? Certainly, as citizens of the Federal Union we may choose to involve ourselves in planetside affairs from time to time. Our actions in space may occasionally impact the course of larger events. But where do we Capsuleers gather to make our collective voices heard in the democratic chorus of the Federation? Every conceivable variety of interest group represents itself to the Federal government in some form or fashion. Lobbyists, Unions, Think Tanks, Communes, Religious Sects, Trade Guilds, Social Clubs and Sports TeamsGÇª all of them and more come here to the Senate in order to have their say, and yet no such organization exists for the representation of Capsuleers! That, my esteemed colleagues, is what I hope we can change with your help. Some time ago I decided to find out if there was interest within the Federal Loyalist Capsuleer community to form such an organization. The idea caught on, and some of us established the Villore Assembly. If you are interested in participating in this Assembly, please contact me via EVEmail with a secure fluid router contact (email address) and I will sent an invitation as soon as possible. Villore Assembly Charter Summary Purpose: Provide a platform for interested Capsuleers to discuss and research issues relevant to the Federal Union of Gallente Prime, and advance policy proposals to the Federation Senate and Government. Structure: The Assembly shall consist of capsuleer Delegates known to be Federation citizens or members of organizations aligned with the Gallente Federation, and capsuleer Envoys representing non Gallente aligned organizations. Both Delegates and Envoys shall be able to raise issues to the Assembly for discussion, but only Delegates are permitted to vote on any Resolution proposed to the Assembly for ratification and presentation to the Senate. Moderation and oversight of the Assembly shall be the responsibility of the Secretary General, and whatever Secretariat Staff are appointed to assist in that responsibility. My sincere thanks to those who have patiently supported this endeavor, Rinai Vero Luminaire General, FDU Moira. Director and GMVA Diplomat Secretary General, Villore Assembly -á
Yarosara Ruil Haighare Pirates 194	Posted - 2016.04.11 15:40:16 - [2] - Quote I'm not saying you should check under your assembly seats for explosive devices, but you really should check under your assembly seats for explosive devices. Love; A concerned Guristas Pirate Science Person G¥ñ
Rinai Vero Moira. Villore Accords 738	Posted - 2016.04.11 15:52:08 - [3] - Quote Hah, I'll make sure to update my clone before every session!
Deitra Vess Non-Hostile Target 1016	Posted - 2016.04.11 16:39:07 - [4] - Quote Who let Kim in?
Rinai Vero Moira. Villore Accords 739	Posted - 2016.04.11 16:49:53 - [5] - Quote Actually, I would be more than willing to allow Commander Kim to present evidence to a committee on the subject of the treatment of Caldari prisoners. I doubt she would be willing to participate in a process so tainted by the process of democracy, but if she was I'd facilitate her participation.
Diana Kim State Protectorate Caldari State 2555	Posted - 2016.04.11 17:13:55 - [6] - Quote Why would I do this? Any capsuleer who can operate probe scanner and fly a... SHIP. Can present these evidence, all you need is to fly to Black Rise... Oh, sorry, I forgot, you are KOS in Black Rise and Caldari Navy shoots pity gallentean occupants down! Well, I can then present them myself. Also I hope you do understand that not only these make Federation a criminal organization. How about operation Highlander? I heard it was planned by FedNavy HQ and even President let it happen. That makes whole Federation guilty. Oh, maybe I should also present evidences that gallentes are still on Caldari Prime? I think I can do this as well. I can even bring a list of systems in Black Rise that gallentean occupants are present in. Unfortunately I don't have evidences about genocide of Caldari settlers myself, but I guess you will be able to find them easily if you dig into reports from the warzone since YC110 made by NOH, intelligence branch of CPD and other Caldari news agencies. Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us. In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Omega Jovakko Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry Templis CALSF 387	Posted - 2016.04.11 18:11:54 - [7] - Quote Would it be possible to sit in on the meeting as a witness? I would like to see how the matter of the POWS will be resolved "that's just blatant Anti-Caldari Propaganda, this Janitor must be arrested at once!" püépüépüépüépüépüépüépéôn+Pn+ü
Diana Kim State Protectorate Caldari State 2556	Posted - 2016.04.11 18:17:22 - [8] - Quote Resolved? In some sort of silly gallentean meeting? Are you serious? It will be resolved only when all gallentean occupants will die. Do you like being a witness to their deaths? Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us. In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Xadiran Moira. Villore Accords 55	Posted - 2016.04.11 18:56:09 - [9] - Quote Putting aside Kim's ramblings, this assembly essentially amounts to a capsuleer lobby which can push for meaningful changes in empire politics, specifically along Caldari-Gallente lines. Regardless of your state of mind about the militia fighting, or even that this is a Moira initiative (and I understand Soter isn't exactly the belle of the ball in these parts) I highly encourage those who want real meaningful discourse to join.
Utari Onzo Pentag Blade Curatores Veritatis Alliance 1088	Posted - 2016.04.11 19:32:32 - [10] - Quote Xadiran wrote: Putting aside Kim's ramblings, this assembly essentially amounts to a capsuleer lobby which can push for meaningful changes in empire politics, specifically along Caldari-Gallente lines. Regardless of your state of mind about the militia fighting, or even that this is a Moira initiative (and I understand Soter isn't exactly the belle of the ball in these parts) I highly encourage those who want real meaningful discourse to join. I'm going to be pretty blunt here while respectful. The Pakhshi Peace Conference attempted to do just this, lobby talking points to the Big Four that were in depth, well reasoned and had workable plans developed by Capsuleers on all sides of the political divide. The Big Four ignored us. It's my intention not to make the same mistake of getting my hopes up they'd bother listening to us by focusing the next Pakhshi meeting on the relationship between us and them far more specifically. I will also be putting it on their table in person, even if I have to hammer the doors of the Assembly down by hand. I wish this project luck, but I'm not holding my breath initiatives like this will achieve anything until we fix the broken connection. "Face the enemy as a solid wall For faith is your armor And through it, the enemy will find no breach Wrap your arms around the enemy For faith is your fire And with it, burn away his evil"

Makoto Priano Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. Arataka Research Consortium 8270	Posted - 2016.04.11 19:47:16 - [11] - Quote I second Mr. Onzo's concerns on the ability of this body to affect change. What's more, I am deeply concerned that an assembly lead by active participants in the Gallente-Caldari warzone are unlikely to be the most capable peace-makers, nor able to put forward policies that will gain significant traction outside the Federation itself. Further yet, by rendering largely powerless any non-Federation participant, I worry that participation in this endeavor is tantamount to subordination to Federation interests. Simply, there are a number of high-minded ideals here, but I am unconvinced. What will your assembly's task be with regard to the Pakhshi Peace Conference results? What do you consider to be the assembly's foremost matters for attention? Who are currently delegates, and what are their affiliations? If a delegate pushed for an Intaki popular referendum on Federation membership, what would be your assembly's position? Have you solicited the Intaki Prosperity Initiative for involvement? Provided an adequately broad-minded response to these questions and concerns, I may have an envoy in mind, one who is known for her diplomatic stance. Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries: exploring the edge of the known, advancing the state of the art. Would you like to know more?
Rinai Vero Moira. Villore Accords 739	Posted - 2016.04.11 20:46:49 - [12] - Quote These are all excellent questions and concerns, and I appreciate both Mr. Onzo and Ms. Priano for raising them. First, let me clarify that the Villore Assembly is intended to focus on working within the democratic process to influence Federation policy. I do not envision the Assembly lobbying governments outside the Federation. Second, at this time there is no Assembly position on the numerous matters that were brought before the Pakshi Peace Conference. In order for us to have a "task" we would first need to consider those results, come to a consensus, and then decided on a course of action. Either of you or both are welcome to make a presentation on the subject to get that process started. In general, I am supportive of the process that the PPC represents. I was not able to attend, but perhaps in the future I will be able to do so. I do not see the two initiatives at cross purposes, or as mutually exclusive. My view was that the PPC did a good job bringing a broad selection of Capsuleer interests together to address concerns faced by the entire cluster collectively. If it was ignored by the "Big Four," because of a broken system... well, all the more reason to step up the pressure on our respective governments. As for the rest, you're again asking about things that have yet to be decided. I've literally only just opened the inaugural session, we haven't resolved ourselves to any positions yet. At this point I don't presume to speak for the Assembly on the subject of "foremost matters for attention." That will be up to the Delegates. Perhaps you're asking about my personal agenda? If that's the case, while I do have issues I intend to address, I believe it would harm the integrity of the Assembly for it to become a vehicle for my personal politics. Xadiran mentioned Gallente-Caldari relations, but that actually is not something we set out to focus on above any other particular issue. This announcement is a general solicitation for involvement. I'd be pleased to have the IPI involved, we have not solicited them specifically, but I might just fire off an evemail now that you mention it. I'd be pleased to welcome any Envoy you are willing to send.
Diana Kim State Protectorate Caldari State 2556	Posted - 2016.04.11 21:06:14 - [13] - Quote Utari Onzo wrote: I'm going to be pretty blunt here while respectful. The Pakhshi Peace Conference attempted to do just this, lobby talking points to the Big Four that were in depth, well reasoned and had workable plans developed by Capsuleers on all sides of the political divide. The Big Four ignored us. It's my intention not to make the same mistake of getting my hopes up they'd bother listening to us by focusing the next Pakhshi meeting on the relationship between us and them far more specifically. I will also be putting it on their table in person, even if I have to hammer the doors of the Assembly down by hand. I wish this project luck, but I'm not holding my breath initiatives like this will achieve anything until we fix the broken connection. Mr. Onzo, so called Pakshi Peace Conference was nothing but a farce, pity I have realized it too late. And I am not surprised that the Big Four decided to ignore its results. As for gallentean initiative, I am pretty sure that it will be even worse. The only real way to ensure peace with gallenteans is to defeat them physically and render them unable to occupy worlds of others (like our Caldari Prime and Black Rise) and oppress other nations who live their own ways that gallenteans can't accept. Gallenteans are fanatics. No peace treaties, no agreements will hold them from violating them and attacking anyways just because you will do something inside your territory that they don't like. They will use it as an excuse to pillage or occupy your lands, screaming stuff like "For Chaos" or "For Democracy"... Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us. In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Xadiran Moira. Villore Accords 55	Posted - 2016.04.11 21:17:02 - [14] - Quote Rinai Vero wrote: Xadiran mentioned Gallente-Caldari relations, but that actually is not something we set out to focus on above any other particular issue. Yes I suppose I may have gotten a little ahead of myself there. Those are certainly the issues I mean to bring to attention most, however. Truth be told, I'm far less adept at this whole politics thing than Rinai. Nevertheless, I intend to participate actively and meaningfully. I even share some of your hesitation regards to non-Gallentean participants, Ms. Priano. At the moment, we can only hope that the delegates we receive are open minded and willing to embrace differing opinions constructively.
Utari Onzo Pentag Blade Curatores Veritatis Alliance 1088	Posted - 2016.04.11 22:30:08 - [15] - Quote I'm willing to present the relevant findings of the PPC to this assembly, but I have my doubts this'll do much of anything. Simply making groups like the PPC, or the recent and now defunct Khanid Council, isn't enough. At this stage I think we're all going to have to make more concerted efforts to be vocal and direct. My schedule is rather full of late so I can only hope the timings will be able to marry up. "Face the enemy as a solid wall For faith is your armor And through it, the enemy will find no breach Wrap your arms around the enemy For faith is your fire And with it, burn away his evil"
James Syagrius Reclamation Technologies 1241	Posted - 2016.04.12 01:35:57 - [16] - Quote Rinai Vero wrote: First, let me clarify that the Villore Assembly is intended to focus on working within the democratic process to influence Federation policy. I do not envision the Assembly lobbying governments outside the Federation. Exactly so, Federal unity is required for a broader peace. A worthwhile project indeed. GÇ£Here also are the heralds of his praise."
Diana Kim State Protectorate Caldari State 2556	Posted - 2016.04.12 09:48:01 - [17] - Quote I would like to bring apology for my previous reply when I was asked to present evidence "n the subject of the treatment of Caldari prisoners." I am afraid I was thinking with my "guns" instead of brains, which often happens when I see such offensive cruelty and disrespect to human life. I would like to change it and reply as I should, with cold heart and weighted answer. As I have replied to one gallentean speaker, who have publically discredited himself by denying well-known fact, asking such sort of evidence would be equal to asking, for example, any Amarr Empire representative to "bring evidence of existence of their scriptures." I believe that would be as insulting to them as your request, Ms. Vero, was to all Caldari people. Discussion on treatmenf of Caldari prisoners could be acceptable in the baseliner society, because they lack the tools we, capsuleers, have. It isn't hard to witness with your own eyes the prisoners, these prison facilities with their security methods and results of appaling treatment. Doubting the existence of these facts is the same as publically acknowledging of the speaker incompetence as a capsule pilot, Ms. Vero. To make a gallentean to acknowledge what is he doing isn't really worth my time. However, I'll be glad to participate in the discussion about the prisoners if it will be turned in the key of what shall be done to stop this treatment. If we discuss actions and consequences and of course responsibility which everyone engaged in construction, maintenance, operation and desinformation about these facilities shall bear. The Federals must pay for what they have done (and for what they are still doing - in case of the prisoner mistreatment), and in this I am interested. Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us. In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Skyweir Kinnison Coldhammer Harvest LLC 224	Posted - 2016.04.12 09:55:56 - [18] - Quote It's an interesting proposal. Several well-founded concerns have been raised, but as long as you keep this Assembly focussed on representations to the Senate and nothing more ambitious, I can see some benefit. However, it would be entirely counter-productive to have persons not entitled to exercise their franchise within the Federation involved in any other capacity than non-speaking observer. Foreign lobbyists are already a scourge, and should not be encouraged. Being open to people such as Commander Kim is well-meant lunacy, the very path to Hell fashioned with good intentions. You should be mindful that there are plenty of expressly non-partisan initiatives that better address cross-cluster matters - such as the nascent post-Pakshi gathering mentioned by Mr Onzo. Accept one role and do it well, rather than seek to be overly important and misguidedly 'inclusive'. You should also consider more involvement in local politics. Whereas the Senate is tempting because of its grandeur and the lustre lobbyists receive by providing worship to the mighty, far more real change is effected at the local assembly level. Our glorious Federation delights in its diversity, and the range of solutions we see to local democratic needs provides the diversity that a vibrant economy and culture must foster. I'll see if I can find time from my own duties in Elose-Goins to support and attend. Humanity has won its battle. Liberty now has a country.
Diana Kim State Protectorate Caldari State 2556	Posted - 2016.04.12 10:04:33 - [19] - Quote Well well, Mr. Kinnison, listening to truth now you call a "well-meant lunacy"? What do you prefer to listen to? To tales about pink domestic cattle with only one horn left, that puke rainbows? That probably won't be lunacy to you and you will talk about it with all your seriousness, if gallenteans are even capable to that feeling. Maybe I should send you a holo-recording of Quaffe advertisement and Federal Navy recruiting propaganda with calls to fight "For Chaos"? Is that to your liking, gallentean? Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us. In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Rinai Vero Moira. Villore Accords 742	Posted - 2016.04.12 14:04:37 - [20] - Quote Skyweir Kinnison wrote: I'll see if I can find time from my own duties in Elose-Goins to support and attend. A Capsuleer already elected to a local Assembly would be most welcome to attend, so I hope that you will be able to do so. The more voices from the chorus of Federation society, the better!

Diana Kim State Protectorate Caldari State 2556	Posted - 2016.04.12 14:17:35 - [21] - Quote I would like to add something regarding Mr. Kinnison. You, gallentes, can continue ignoring the truth. You can continue prohibiting speaking the truth. You can continue silencing voices of reason. But keep in mind this. Whatever you do, whatever you say, the fact will remain the fact. Words come around and go around, but the truth persists. Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us. In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
iyammarrok Mining Company The Suicidal Spaceship Squadron 418	Posted - 2016.04.12 15:10:52 - [22] - Quote Yours has never been a voice of reason Diana. I would have expected even you to have accepted that by now. -Tertianus Rethelior Not indicative of corporate policy unless otherwise stated.
Rinai Vero Moira. Villore Accords 742	Posted - 2016.04.12 15:36:30 - [23] - Quote I, for one, have no fear of the truth. I grew up on Caldari Prime among friends and family of both Gallente and Caldari heritage, and one of the first lessons of my youth was that injustice doesn't have a nationality. Injustice thrives in the darkness, and we know that there are many dark places in the Federation. I hope that the Villore Assembly can shine a light where those who hide in the shadows fear to be seen. Diana knows what she has witnessed, and we should have no fear to confront the truth even from those who are our enemies. However, truth is not limited to the experience of one person. If Commander Kim decides to present evidence to the Assembly, it will be in the context of a full investigation.
Claudia Osyn Non-Hostile Target 1695	Posted - 2016.04.12 17:42:34 - [24] - Quote We gallenteans are neither ignoring the truth nor are we attempting to hide it, as is evident by the fact that you have been asked multiple times by Gallente citizens to put forth evidence. The burden of proof lays with you, Kimmy. We are not inclined to seek evidence of wrong doing or the condemnation of our Empire on account of one loud, xenophobic capsuleer. A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
Diana Kim State Protectorate Caldari State 2556	Posted - 2016.04.12 18:46:43 - [25] - Quote iyammarrok wrote: Yours has never been a voice of reason Diana. Those who are deaf and dumb like you, "iyammarrok", wouldn't recognize reason even if it will be presented to you on a platter right under your nose. Don't intervene in conversations of your superiors in the future. You distracted me by 45 seconds with your trolling. I don't like that. Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us. In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Claudia Osyn Non-Hostile Target 1696	Posted - 2016.04.12 18:57:27 - [26] - Quote Diana Kim wrote: iyammarrok wrote: Yours has never been a voice of reason Diana. Those who are deaf and dumb like you, "iyammarrok", wouldn't recognize reason even if it will be presented to you on a platter right under your nose. Don't intervene in conversations of your superiors in the future. You distracted me by 45 seconds with your trolling. I don't like that. The fact that it took you 45 seconds to read that is telling... A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
Diana Kim State Protectorate Caldari State 2556	Posted - 2016.04.12 18:58:33 - [27] - Quote Ms. Vero, as just I have said earlier, I am not interested in gallentean simply acknowledging what they are already doing. Would you be ready to act and make decisions on this situation, or is it just for empty talks that gallentean so love? But as Ms. Osyn have said, if I claim something, I should present evidences for this, and thus it shall be done. Even if I will have to participate in this gallentean circus and prove you that the water is wet and show you your own action, I shall do this in order to show you that a word of Caldari Officer is never empty. Maybe that will teach you gallenteans something. And even if it won't. Oh well. I just wonder if your assembly would enjoy the graphic material just as gallentean prison guards enjoy torturing people. Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us. In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Diana Kim State Protectorate Caldari State 2556	Posted - 2016.04.12 18:59:37 - [28] - Quote Claudia Osyn wrote: Diana Kim wrote: iyammarrok wrote: Yours has never been a voice of reason Diana. Those who are deaf and dumb like you, "iyammarrok", wouldn't recognize reason even if it will be presented to you on a platter right under your nose. Don't intervene in conversations of your superiors in the future. You distracted me by 45 seconds with your trolling. I don't like that. The fact that it took you 45 seconds to read that is telling... To read and write the answer, Osyn. Your trolling took me 10 seconds. Stop this. Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us. In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Claudia Osyn Non-Hostile Target 1697	Posted - 2016.04.12 19:07:39 - [29] - Quote Diana Kim wrote: Claudia Osyn wrote: Diana Kim wrote: iyammarrok wrote: Yours has never been a voice of reason Diana. Those who are deaf and dumb like you, "iyammarrok", wouldn't recognize reason even if it will be presented to you on a platter right under your nose. Don't intervene in conversations of your superiors in the future. You distracted me by 45 seconds with your trolling. I don't like that. The fact that it took you 45 seconds to read that is telling... To read and write the answer, Osyn. Your trolling took me 10 seconds. Stop this. No. You make it too easy. A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
Diana Kim State Protectorate Caldari State 2556	Posted - 2016.04.12 21:02:01 - [30] - Quote I would like also to point out that a savage who called himself with a name that sounds like "Im mah rock" (rather descriptive!), was exact one of these ignorants whom I was pointing on earlier. He was one of these cruel and heartless peoples, denying the widely known and easily verifiable fact for the sake of his trolling here: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5787843#post5787843 iyammarrok wrote: blowing up colonies? even penal ones? looks at a list of commonly used FedNav weaponry nope. Any capable capsuleer who have seen Federal penal colonies in Black Rise can confirm that they blow them up shortly as you hack into one of the cells to rescue a prisoner. Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us. In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.



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