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Admiral Bosch	Posted - 2007.02.16 18:12:00 - [31] drone bs for amarr wont happen because its absolutly useless when almost 90% of all the ships deal with laser and tanking bonuses as for "twists" it would be nice to see them use missles :D doesn't become more of a twist then that. Id also like to see the Maller get some missle slots or maybe the arby get more missle slots n easier to fit around. def. makes me wonder if i should continue to train gallente or hop over to amarr. I favor more of the DPS world and gallente get me there just fine
Tisanta Amarr Dragonfire Intergalactic Crusaders of Krom	Posted - 2007.02.16 18:13:00 - [32] Originally by: Dristra Originally by: Tisanta kick the domi off its high horse... -10% capacitor needs to lasers, 10% increase in drone hp and damage per level - please please please please please give it this and my amarr battleship lvl 5 wont be wasted.. along with 3 mil sp in drones... PLEASE! CCP and boost the bay to 300m3! reduce the high slots by 2 reduce the PG by 4000, increase the low slots by 1 and you have the middlefinger at nos-domis.. if this change is made i may even start playing again. make it cap bonus and drone bonus, that way the energy neut monkeys won't complain... :P and of course larger drone bay (that is a no brainer) and for the "don't change the apoc" people, the apoc needs a change, just because it has a few narrow uses does not make it good for the majority (mission runners have the abbadon now anyways) mmm i think a cap bonus would overpower this ship to be honest.. --- Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes
Opai McTwist Amarr The Sell Swords	Posted - 2007.02.16 18:24:00 - [33] While I think most players would conclude that an Amarr drone ship would be something truly useful, it isn't all that distinctive or unique. I'd personally love something a little off the wall: Torp Speed + Armor Resist. Smrt-bomb Radius + Armor Resist Lrg Lsr Cap Use + Smrt-bomb Radius (Pulse Lasers and Smart Bombs!!) Smrt-bomb Radius + Cap Recharge Bonus (Zoom in and bomb!) Yes I like smart bombs. To me, their plus side is that's one way that Amarr can vary damage types, and it isn't something anyone else does a lot. The downside is the area of effect limits when and where you can use them. We might end up with Drone EM dam bonus and Armor Resist. Although... 5% less pg/lvl to fit Large Lasers wouldn't be wasted. Nor would a Tracking Bonus. Oooooh. Now there's a thought. 3% Bonus/lvl Tracking and Cap Recharge Bonus... Sniper or Pulse boat (with MWD). MORE SHINY, PLEASE!!
Dristra Amarr Shadows of the Dead Aftermath Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.16 18:44:00 - [34] Will be hard for the devs to "fix" the apoc i guess... at least it can't get any crappier. big problem with Amarr in general is the cap usage on lasers issue, it takes up a bonus, and does not promote interesting ships. It's great being Amarr isn't it.
Dristra Amarr Shadows of the Dead Aftermath Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.16 18:44:00 - [35] Will be hard for the devs to "fix" the apoc i guess... at least it can't get any crappier. big problem with Amarr in general is the cap usage on lasers issue, it takes up a bonus, and does not promote interesting ships. It's great being Amarr isn't it.
Tisanta Amarr Dragonfire Intergalactic Crusaders of Krom	Posted - 2007.02.16 18:47:00 - [36] Originally by: Dristra Will be hard for the devs to "fix" the apoc i guess... at least it can't get any crappier. big problem with Amarr in general is the cap usage on lasers issue, it takes up a bonus, and does not promote interesting ships. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=477293 --- Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes
Tisanta Amarr Dragonfire Intergalactic Crusaders of Krom	Posted - 2007.02.16 18:47:00 - [37] Originally by: Dristra Will be hard for the devs to "fix" the apoc i guess... at least it can't get any crappier. big problem with Amarr in general is the cap usage on lasers issue, it takes up a bonus, and does not promote interesting ships. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=477293 --- Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes
zeon123	Posted - 2007.02.16 19:36:00 - [38] Leave my geddon alone! just add some PG and CPU
Tisanta Amarr Dragonfire Intergalactic Crusaders of Krom	Posted - 2007.02.16 19:37:00 - [39] geddon? we are talking about apoc damn it! --- Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes
God forbid Amarr POllUtIoN	Posted - 2007.02.16 20:13:00 - [40] I was First thinking about something like 10% bonus to Large Energy Turret capacitor use and 5% armor resistance per Level.. But We have the abaddon who have that so they would almost be the same so I would more want to have it.. 10% bonus to drone hitpoints and 5% Armor Resistance per level and then changes the Low slot from 7 to 6 and medslots from 4 to 5.. brrrr
The Hardman Amarr Cornerstone Unlimited The Foundation.	Posted - 2007.02.16 20:42:00 - [41] Make the Apoc a NOS boat. Would ballance out the Caldari having a ECM boat. Ballance would be so: Gallente/Minmatar 2x Primary Weapon Ships (Hyp/Mega/Temp/Mrael) 1x Secondary Weapon Ships (Phoon, Domi) Caldari/Amarr 2x Weapon Ships (Rohk, Raven, Geddon, Abaddon) 1x Support Ship (Scorp, Apoc) Make the Apoc bonus: 5% Cap 10% bonus to Energy Vampire drain amount
Almarez	Posted - 2007.02.16 20:47:00 - [42] Well drone boat would be nice but something more than just 125m^2 drone bay is needed to give options. Maybe something like a BS Aurogor but then we turn it into even more of a fleet ship and the Amarr have such few solo ships that it is really sad, we should change the Amarr to the Zerg, cause no Amarr pilot can do anything alone. I don't know because the Armageddon is the ganker, and the Abaddon can be either ganker or tanker. EW shouldn't even be considered as a primary thing for an Amarr ship, and missles on an Apoc just seem plain wrong. This is a tough one without completely revamping the Apoc setup.
Almarez	Posted - 2007.02.16 20:48:00 - [43] Originally by: zeon123 Leave my geddon alone! just add some PG and CPU Wouldn't you rather they fixed the cap issue and gave it rof and damage bonus instead? Or tracking bonus, or optimal range bonus?
Mastin Dragonfly Amarr	Posted - 2007.02.16 21:15:00 - [44] Edited by: Mastin Dragonfly on 16/02/2007 21:12:06 Originally by: Dristra Will be hard for the devs to "fix" the apoc i guess... at least it can't get any crappier. Well, if Tux looks at this thread while drunk we might end up with a droneboat with smartbomb range bonus...
Nyxus GALAXIAN Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.02.16 22:02:00 - [45] The fix to the apoc is simple. It needs to be a capacitor warfare ship (Amarr specialty) with a large dronebay. If you look at the Bhaalgorn it should mimic the cap warfare bonus already in game. Ship stats: Same except for dronebay increase to 200m3 +10 to Energy Vampire amount per level -10% laser capacitor use per level Viola. Distinctly Amarrian, not "dronier" than a dominix, uses existing bonus already ingame and makes the Apoc useful. Make it so. Nyxus The Gallente ideals of Freedom, Liberty and Equality will be met by the Amarr realities of Lasers, Armor and Battleships.
Dristra Amarr Shadows of the Dead Aftermath Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.16 23:23:00 - [46] Might just work out... a nos bonus ship might be too good tough It's great being Amarr isn't it.
Cmdr Sy Repo Industries	Posted - 2007.02.16 23:55:00 - [47] Originally by: Nyxus The fix to the apoc is simple. It needs to be a capacitor warfare ship (Amarr specialty) with a large dronebay. If you look at the Bhaalgorn it should mimic the cap warfare bonus already in game. Ship stats: Same except for dronebay increase to 200m3 +10 to Energy Vampire amount per level -10% laser capacitor use per level Viola. Distinctly Amarrian, not "dronier" than a dominix, uses existing bonus already ingame and makes the Apoc useful. Make it so. Nyxus I agree, except I would make the nos bonus dual-purpose, and reduce energy emission systems cap use by 10% per level too. Of course, a pair of nos feeding a neutraliser with cap to spare for guns would be a little too evil. But you know what, meh. What Amarr BS survives attack by Tempest, Dominix or Raven at that range these days? Logoffs
Wulfgard Minmatar Lynx Frontier Inc. Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.17 00:07:00 - [48] One can dream but.... We could use an armor tanking missiles battleship.
Dristra Amarr Shadows of the Dead Aftermath Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.17 00:22:00 - [49] Originally by: Wulfgard One can dream but.... We could use an armor tanking missiles battleship. that is dreaming, might just ask for drones AND rate of fire on missiles.... the new pwnmobile from hell It's great being Amarr isn't it.

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