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Lady Kinla Dark Empire Fleet	Posted - 2007.02.18 13:50:00 - [31] Originally by: Gr3atWhite YES IT IS TO LATE DONT BOTHER , ALL THESE *****S WHO SAY NO JUST WANT NOOBS TO KILL THEY SUCK. On behalf of the eve community and just about anyone I say: STFU Nobody here cares what you think if you present your thoughts like that. --------------------------- "Did i ask for anyone to copy this into their sig? No **heads this is my text not yours!" Already disobeyed... W00t! I am no longer a !.
searchi tiberian suns	Posted - 2007.02.18 13:51:00 - [32] find a corp and if u can identify with the goals of that corp justzt put your work and energy behind that goal. every isk and manhour counts. new chars can work as scouts or tacklers or if u like mining more u can fly a hauler in a mining corp.
Jenny Spitfire Caldari Northern Intelligence SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.18 18:53:00 - [33] It is not too late to play eVe but I will not lie to you. You will never ever catch up with the older players. --------- Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria! Kali is for KArebearLIng. I 100% agree with Avon. Female EVE gamers? Mail Zajo or visit WGOE.Public in-game.
Major Stuart Caldari XanTara.	Posted - 2007.02.18 18:58:00 - [34] no its not to late, there are small corps to help have wars in then as you gain a rep and experience the bigger corps may let you in and you get into the huge battles, older people will quit and corps are always looking for new members to grow and help them fight
Verone Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.02.18 19:00:00 - [35] Originally by: doseph kick arse post Every member of the Eve community starts out the same. Tossed into a crappy rookie frigate with 5,000ISK and a basic miner and civvy weapon. Some have remained small scale, others have risen from the same fundemental position in the game to command alliances of thousands of players, and corporations with Trillion ISK industrial portfolios. You're asking "Is it too late for me?" when you should be asking "How can I make my mark on New Eden, and what do I want to be here?" Remember this one thing, and ask yourself that question again. NEWEST MOVIE : VETO FOR HIRE
Kehmor Caldari PAK	Posted - 2007.02.18 19:18:00 - [36] Originally by: Verone Originally by: doseph kick arse post Every member of the Eve community starts out the same. Tossed into a crappy rookie frigate with 5,000ISK and a basic miner and civvy weapon. Some have remained small scale, others have risen from the same fundemental position in the game to command alliances of thousands of players, and corporations with Trillion ISK industrial portfolios. You're asking "Is it too late for me?" when you should be asking "How can I make my mark on New Eden, and what do I want to be here?" Remember this one thing, and ask yourself that question again. In fact its now easier than ever, you start off with what? just short of a million SP? Well I started actively and solo pvping with about 500k SP.
Soporo	Posted - 2007.02.18 19:46:00 - [37] I've found that a Corp can make or break your EVE experience, and quickly. When I left the n00b Corp after a week, I joined a corp that I had found by trolling the MASSIVE recruitment forum. I was damn lucky and hit a good one right off the bat. Sure everything was overwhelming at first, but my learning/knowledge increased exponentially, and much of that can be attributed to my Corp. That having been said, I admit to occasianally feeling a bit ****ed when encountering a couple of wartarget Command ships piloted by 3 year olds, or when someone says something like "if you aint got a bil or two, you aint doing squat!", or when rats appear 30km away and insta pop my barge before I can bail, even aligned...but I figure I will just keep plugging away and try to keep anything truly idiotic from happening, I dont know what else to do.
Chen Lianshi Princeps Corp	Posted - 2007.02.18 19:52:00 - [38] Just look at how many answers you got and the quality of them. You won't find this community anywhere else. It's not too late.
Goumindong Amarr Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys	Posted - 2007.02.18 19:52:00 - [39] Originally by: Kehmor Originally by: Verone Originally by: doseph kick arse post Every member of the Eve community starts out the same. Tossed into a crappy rookie frigate with 5,000ISK and a basic miner and civvy weapon. Some have remained small scale, others have risen from the same fundemental position in the game to command alliances of thousands of players, and corporations with Trillion ISK industrial portfolios. You're asking "Is it too late for me?" when you should be asking "How can I make my mark on New Eden, and what do I want to be here?" Remember this one thing, and ask yourself that question again. In fact its now easier than ever, you start off with what? just short of a million SP? Well I started actively and solo pvping with about 500k SP. 800k SP or so is what you start with now. And yea, hop in and boom, instant PvP. Head on over to the recruitment forums and you will probably be able to find a corporation or alliance that suits you. Still plenty of time to join the great war. ---------------------------------------- Thou Shalt "Pew Pew"
Kaalen	Posted - 2007.02.18 19:57:00 - [40] Almost certainly yes. I started playing nearly 3 years ago, played for about a year and then stopped. When I came back I decided that I wanted a fresh start and made the new character that you see today and I'm currently have a LOT more fun in tech 1 frigates than I ever had in my old battleship. And I've already had a hand in the destruction of several ships piloted by more experienced players. EVE isn't about getting the biggest and best things, and the highest skillpoints. It's a game about teamwork and freedom. Join a good corp, make some new friends and have fun. You'd be astonished what you'll be able to achieve in as little as a few weeks. Once you've learned the ins and out of combat and fleet movement in EVE then yes, you -can- be in that 50 on 50 fleet battle. Politics is a little more difficult to get into, but that's entirely dependant on you and your corp/alliance, not your skillpoints or your ship. That's the beauty of EVE, you can do whatever you want, you just have to do it.
Adrian Kerensky Caldari STK Scientific INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.02.18 19:58:00 - [41] I started playing 2 years ago. Joined a small corp which was quite industry based. Had a real good time getting to know people and after about 2 months realised how much I didn't like mining. The corp then moved to low sec in which we laid claim to a system (Camal) and had quite a few running battles with a pirate corp (The Lost Souls). This sparked an interest in piracy and so I started practicing, killing the innocent for my own riches. I left my original corp after about 10 months and joined TLS for a few weeks before then joining the Red Alliance with a few friends. Had great fun there taking part in large fleet battles, small pvp, solo pvp, everything (except mining ). After this I left Red Alliance and joined my current corp (with a few months in between in my original corp which had rejoined). I now have two accounts (this being the second). I've had great fun over the last two years and I'm sure you will too. It is most definately not too late for you to start playing EVE. The political landscape is constantly changing and if you are looking for fleet battles and the like you could always put in a post in the recruitment forum. People are always looking for enthusiastic new players such as yourself. Just do what you feel like doing. If you like mining and the industry side of things do that, if you like shooting things at a slow pace try mission running, if you like feeling a massive addrenalin surge then either hop in a small frigate and head out into low sec looking for targets both the same size and bigger than yourself (just because a ship is bigger than you doesn't mean it will win automatically in EVE ), or join a PvP corp to fly with some more experienced players. Whatever you choose just make sure you're having fun. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes - Devil 258 bytes over!
Evenfall Phoenix Drones of Annihilation GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.02.18 20:57:00 - [42] Don't worry doseph. I am a little over 2 months into Eve and am right now part of the largest war ever witnesses (from what I have been told at least lol). All it takes is a little tenacity and the will to find a group of people, hang out with them, and then join up. There's plenty of opertunities in ever to do whatever you want. You just have to figure out what you want to do, and then find a corp that does it. I too have traveled through many of different MMOs, and Eve is so far the best one I have been a part of.
Roue Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.18 21:05:00 - [43] Find a group you trust. Find a goal you want to achieve. Give it time and you'll have your own epic story rather then someone elses. This is my opinion not that of privateer corp, alliance, its member corps, affiliates, minions, pet animals, ex girlfriends, former roommates, 3rd grade gym teachers, late relatives, ontime relatives,
petergriffen Amarr Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.02.18 21:30:00 - [44] It's definitely not too late to start playing :) As many posters have already mentioned, there are many veterans that will be more than happy to answer even the most inane questions about anything. One thing I've always liked about this game was how willing older pilots are to help new pilots get on their feet. I find it one of the most rewarding aspects of Eve, and I'm sure a lot of others do. Eve is a daunting game, and as long as you don't get discouraged, you'll find there's a lot to enjoy in this game, regardless of what you decide to do. Good luck and hope to see you in space! I'm working on it!
x Misako	Posted - 2007.02.18 22:06:00 - [45] It's not too late!! :) Especially now, with Kali, EVE is brimming with opportunities for newer players. Both in PvE and PvP and the whole empire-building aspect. Hauling enormous amounts of stuff, building your own sexy battlecruisers, using the ship you just built to kill some people in your latest war, finding hidden riches of secret asteroid belts, coming out of warp in your lowly cruiser and saving 500 million worth of friends by smartly jamming some enemies in your cheapskate Blackbird, reselling other people's production for crazy profits... all this comes quite easily and doesn't require much training, while the fun factor is sometimes simply through the roof. We even have some relative noobs in our very combat-oriented corporation (everybody can shoot at us) One of them actually fits his ships in really terrible ways, but he's constantly on the top of our killboards simply because he likes to fight, so he's looking for fights while the others idly chat or conceive plans of world domination :). And just to give you an example, here's a bit of my story: when I started on the wrong path and became a pirate about a year ago, I was also afraid. I thought that my weak training and small amounts of available free time will ruin my EVE experience. You know - no entering hi-sec, no income, one account, one character. I was a noob with just basic anti-NPC training. I had no real friends in game. I also had to decide on a pirating ship that I would be able to support with my meagre income and the choice was pretty much limited to 3 models. I sold my missioning battleship for the initial influx of money and bought my first Rupture - and the rest is history, as they say. I met some great guys, I flew my Ruptures into most dreadful firefights, destroyed over 500 other ships, sometimes I shaked so much from the adrenaline pumping (the famous EVE shakes, it's something you gotta experience at least once before you leave the game) that I couldn't drink my damn Cola without spilling it. Now we have a whole pirate alliance, we're both fighting and running from various 0.0 alliances, and I'm still a part time player with no money, still mostly flying Minmatar Cruisers and having GREAT FUN :). I have also found enormous pleasure in having seemingly limited choices but actually having new stuff to do all the time. I fiddled with dozens of setups for Ruptures, Stabbers and Bellicoses, I learned some odd jobs, like scanning in a Covert Ops frigate, whizzing @ 6km/s in an Interceptor and looking for hidden asteroid belts with the new feature, Exploration and I realized that even if you're really, really small, you can still leave a mark on this world. It's all about two things, really: doing what you feel like doing and, unless you're a loner, joining a good corporation. Have fun :).
Redpants Gallente Dead Eagle North Star Confederation	Posted - 2007.02.18 23:01:00 - [46] "I have had more fun in 14 days doing mining operations with my corp then I had in the entire 7 months of WoW." That says it all. NO it's not too late for you or the guy taking the tutorial for the first time 2 years from today who right now isn't even aware of EVE. NOBODY in this game is on the same character arc. With so much to do, train for, and explore factoring in atributes and skills everybody is on their own path, so in a sense you can feel behind in some areas, but those areas you're behind other people in, you're ahead of with others. Just keep a perspective. Even that 2003 character can't put all his millons of skill points into just one ship, or one profession. _____________________________________________________________________ "My once immaculate white pants are now stained from the weak and innocent. I don't wear red."
Bryg Philomena Green Lantern Corps	Posted - 2007.02.18 23:45:00 - [47] nah, perseverence will have you sitting as the right hand man to the next Cyvok, building an empire. Find a good corp to help you out. I'll help ya if you convo me ingame as well. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=465618
Lobo13 Gallente Beyond-Redemption Koroshiya Buntai	Posted - 2007.02.18 23:57:00 - [48] Originally by: Micia Quote: Is it too late for me in Eve? No. Exactly, there will always be a need for fresh meat in the meatgrinder. Beyond-Redemption is recruiting

Pirlouit Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2007.02.19 00:04:00 - [49] The great thing about this game is that however small and insignificant you ship is you can have an important impact in the game.... So it is never too late. As regard to catching up... this game is not about catching up. Sure enough you are not as good as more veteran player in shooting stuff or you will have to wait some time to pilot a dread or a carrier. But some smaller ships like interdictors have their use and can be reached quite easily earlier in the game. So take your time, enjoy the game and have fun.... forum rules \| email

Aphotic Raven Gallente E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.02.19 00:07:00 - [50] Edited by: Aphotic Raven on 19/02/2007 00:13:13 Good luck doseph, I have some advice. Always be brave but not stupid, its just isk after all. Get yourself to 0.0 as soon as you can fly a battleship... run missions and make friends with people in low sec to start off... get yourself a handle on the game controls and just enjoy it until high sec becomes boring... then find a corp that can get you out there.... Learn the hard way, getting help/advice is good but in the end hand holding makes weak people, I got my ass kicked a lot because of my cheap ship/crap skills... but I got better at PVP and eventually had a pretty good kill/death ratio... I was an enemy of my current corp up until 2 months ago, they let me join because I was tenacious and offered an honorable opponent. People will remember your name for a long... long time in eve ;) For PVE and missioning, think big, a bigger ship is generally better for low SP characters... but for pvp think SMALL. If you are solo'ing i'd reccomend cruisers for their tank/firepower/speed/cost but in groups either cruiser or special frigate... such as a maulus or griphin... these ships can be very very useful for almost no cost. Specialise in your race but remember its not hard to train frigates for other races, experiment a bit, and download EVEMon to help you plan your skills... Stay active on the forums, they keep you up to date on whats happening in eve and particularly... let you learn the lingo/hints (GET YOUR ASS TO THE SHIP SETUP SECTION ASAP ) And its never too late, welcome to eve, if you need to ask a question feel free to evemail me. Edit: If you got a lot of charisma, remake your character and ask your friend what stats you need... mine haunts me to this very day. (ccp please put a massive THIS WILL NERF YOU FOREVER sticker on charisma in char creation, please?) I also had an alt with 250k SP. Using a smaaall ammount of isk from my main she succesfully conducted a high sec war with her own corporation (Not A Pirate Corp [NAPC]) And killed a lot of people... twas fun and i learnt a lot about empire wars. So just go for it! the new char creation makes this so much easier =D
Akira Zendragon Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.02.19 00:10:00 - [51] Pardon the small plug, but you might be interested in joining Eve University... check the recruitment thread here Join channel: "Eve University" or read here
The Assyrian Mound of Severed Heads	Posted - 2007.02.19 00:26:00 - [52] Edited by: The Assyrian on 19/02/2007 00:24:46 Eve isn't anything like as noob friendly as it used to be. Sorry, it just isn't. Capital ships, Titans, POS empires, coming constellation sovereignty -- the power gulf between old and new has dramatically increased in the last year or so. New players can find roles in older organizations as foot soldiers or whatever, but the Eve of today is largely shaped by 2-3 year old players, at least in 0.0. There are exceptions, but by and large, that's the reality. Yes, there's some apparatus of friendlines to noobs with the skill point raise, and there are ways newer players can find a role, but the power gap between new and old has never been wider -- and it's growing.
Kenneys	Posted - 2007.02.19 00:35:00 - [53] My assumption, if you were in the best guild in your server for WoW.. then it's obvious that you have high ambitions in Eve and intend to powergame. It is by no means easy.. but it is still doable for a complete newbie. To do so.. here are the steps: 1) Make two-three accounts. Leave those accounts training learning skills for several months. Also figure out how to make money.. (you can either blow RL money to save your personal time.. or spend a LOT of personal time to get isk) 2) Start training up science skills for all your chars, and put them into the T2 lottery ticket.All 3 chars, for all 3 accounts. This is your ONLY way of being truly successful in Eve. (Note, to some people successful means being happy.. it's obviously not in this case) 3) Start planning ahead.. do you want a miner/hauler/tank..tackler/DPS.. etc etc for those accounts. Either that or you can just join a 0.0 alliance.. fly as a peon all day long going into mass fleet PVP. It's not like WoW.. the more you raid/spend 8 hours a day fighting in fleets, the smaller your pocketbook gets. (But your alliance gets stronger) Of course, pirating is a totally different story.. it's profitable pvp.
Plutoinum German Cyberdome Corp Cult of War	Posted - 2007.02.19 01:21:00 - [54] If your goal is not to catch up with some old veteran skillwise, you are fine. Many things in EVE don't depend on a massive amount of skill-points. And if you want to have perfect skills in everything, you'd need over 15 years or so and more skills are coming out every year. Even a vet can forget about that. People need to specialize and so a younger char can be as good or better in the field they have specialized in than an older char, who has focussed on something else. Another point is that it takes much longer to train a skill to level 5 than to level 4, but the gain from that extra skill-level is not so high, except that it might be the pre-requisite for something else. I'm not in a skill-race with my corp mates or enemies. I have an idea what I want to fly or use and so I train for it. I'm not training against someone, I train for myself or maybe for the mates, like if we lack people with this or that skill, I might train for that. You can relax, EVE is not a skill and lvl. race to the top level. You can have fun, do a lot of things and contribute to a corp or alliance without xx millions of skillpoints. Competition in pvp happens more between groups of players than between individuals. Big part if pvp is strategy and tactics, which also includes picking the right fights at the right time and avoiding to fight on the terms of your opponent, if you think you have no chance at all. Vets kill youngsters, youngsters kill vets, veterans need to retreat from youngsters and the other way around, even more true in groups. Happens all the time, though your chances are obviously higher in groups as a new player. _______ I came, I read, I lol'ed.
Abrah	Posted - 2007.02.19 03:12:00 - [55] What the guys sayd here is correct... except one small important thing they sayd that you can not have as many or more skillpoints that a 3 year old active player has , ill tell you one thing..they are WRONG 1.did you know that sometimes in eve you might get opportunitis to blow a hudge quantati of isk, whell of cource not in the first months but lets say in 1 year or if you find something that you like for example marketing you can make billions of isk out of it , 2.ok so you got luky and tooked a big isk making opportunity or you have made youre homework and you made alot of isk somehow, did you know that it is legal to buy a character for isk ? yeah it is mate and gues what you can buy 1-2-3 year old characters , yes whell 40-50 mil sp chars cost like 15-25 bil isk ... but so what ? if you got lucky or fried youre brain making youreself a method to become filthy rich ..nothing is imposible not even to have a better character then old veterans.. just be carefull , learn , have fun and treat things with alot of attention
Marcus Druallis Quantum Industries Prime Orbital Systems	Posted - 2007.02.19 06:04:00 - [56] I'm happy to see that atleast your a person with some damn intelligence and not like the other 90% of people that come on the forums asking (rather saying it is) if it's too late. To start, no. Not at all. Basically, train, because if you don't, you'll just be back in another 2 months saying "****, I wish I trained..." The EVE bug is evil, and you won't get rid of it. But, the thing is, EVE is what you make of it. You cannot log on every couple hours/days and switch a skill and expect to get somewhere in the game. You made a comment about never being involved in a 50 on 50 fleet battle. If you want to, you could probably get involved in under 2 months, probably under 30 days. When I see a personality like yours (you seem definately willing and able to use your head), and they want 0.0 and pew pewing, your a damn good investment to the corp. Sure, right now your a aimless noob, but in 3 months, you can be a willing and effective pilot (not all vets are cruisin in Capitals, frigs and cruisers are very important too). So, no. It is definately not too late. So, pay CCP, and get on the train. If you want, give me a hollar after about a month if you want into 0.0 :) -- Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes - Devil ([email protected])
XiticiX Gallente Kudzu Collective	Posted - 2007.02.19 06:33:00 - [57] You can contribute to fleet battles no matter what you're flying. Even a frigate can contribute by warp scrambling, NOSing, or webbing. That's the great thing about eve - Even the little guy gets a part in large operations. ~~~ This is my sig. Do you like it? ~~~
Blank Protection Caldari White Wolves Defence league The OSS	Posted - 2007.02.19 06:44:00 - [58] Its absolutly never to late. Last year because of a rip off from one of the Corp members i terminated all my 3 accounts. 2 month`s later i started all over again. Only this time on a whole other way. I didnt start with the learning skills this time. Started to train up for a raven from the beginning and missile skills. Runned lots of missions and refined all my stuff/loot. In 2 and a half month`s i had already 1 billion ISK and a almost full T2 fitted Raven. Remember dont let ppl fool you that you need at least 10 million SP to fly it. From that moment on, now almost 4 month`s i joined the Corp where im in now. This game is made to play in team work. Yes you can play alone but you will become a mining drone or it will be anoying very fast. Playing for 5 month`s now and i already made far over 1,5 billion ISK. So keep on training run missions join a good Corp make ISK`s. Than fun only will be the resolt of it. And all the rumors about cheating and etc etc dont take it so hard. Just some lame propaganda. Nothing to worry about. Good luck and have fun.
Fenian Caldari Aztec Industries	Posted - 2007.02.19 06:49:00 - [59] It's much like real-life, really. You're born with the same opportunities as anybody else had when they started. (OK not quite like RL, but still)
Arithon Draedus NQX Logistics	Posted - 2007.02.19 06:54:00 - [60] Originally by: Verone Originally by: doseph kick arse post Every member of the Eve community starts out the same. Tossed into a crappy rookie frigate with 5,000ISK and a basic miner and civvy weapon. Some have remained small scale, others have risen from the same fundemental position in the game to command alliances of thousands of players, and corporations with Trillion ISK industrial portfolios. You're asking "Is it too late for me?" when you should be asking "How can I make my mark on New Eden, and what do I want to be here?" Remember this one thing, and ask yourself that question again. ^^ Listen to Verone! He speak the mutha-******* truth! Come join us man! In three years time you will look back at all you have done and all the people you have met......and all that is still to come. Then you will know that you made the right choice! -Arithon ps. Can I have one of your multiple babies verone?

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