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Chith
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Posted - 2003.12.15 18:36:00 -
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From what I can tell, a lot of the stats on all the industrials were changed/balanced. Anyone know a place that has the new stats from chaos? --- The Tarsis Shriners |

Amin
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Posted - 2003.12.15 20:04:00 -
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From what i can remember they are roughly:
Bestower - 4500m3 Badger Mk2 - 5250m3 Iteron V - 6000m3
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Ana Khouri
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Posted - 2003.12.15 20:24:00 -
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Edited by: Ana Khouri on 15/12/2003 20:25:04 OMG - a lvl3 indy having more cargo than the bestower? Has hell freezen over?
I wonder how many "Why has the bestower been nerfed" posts we get after the patch 
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ClawHammer III
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Posted - 2003.12.15 20:33:00 -
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All indys have a 5% cargo and speed bous now as well.
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Babar
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Posted - 2003.12.15 21:07:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: Ana Khouri on 15/12/2003 20:25:04 OMG - a lvl3 indy having more cargo than the bestower? Has hell freezen over?
I wonder how many "Why has the bestower been nerfed" posts we get after the patch 
Hehe.. Don't need to ask why. - 'SPUFFofDoG' gave us the reason in the patch review forum. ;D
Almost feel like going amarr now. They're bound to get some very nice stuff soon.
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Morin
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Posted - 2003.12.15 22:21:00 -
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Summary with changes as of yet: - All indies get 50% extra base cargo - All indies get 5% extra cargo/lvl - All indies get 5% extra speed/lvl - All indies will be slow as hell ;) - Mammoth and Badger Mk2 will get an extra low slow And yes, this would mean the mammoth will be bigger then the bestower 
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Naz Farooq
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Posted - 2003.12.15 23:26:00 -
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With Minnie Indy 4 and 4 expander I's my Mammoth had a little under 11k m3 and topped out at 150m/s. This was Saturday tho, so things may have changed.
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Redwolf
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Posted - 2003.12.15 23:45:00 -
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As I remember, the Bestower has a base cargo of 3500m3, thus wouldn't an increase of 50% make this 5250m3?
p.s. why is the bestower getting nerfed? 
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Cain Calzon
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Posted - 2003.12.16 00:18:00 -
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cargo stats on all industrials at date 031216
Amarr Bestower - 4800m3
Caldari Badger - 4125m3 BadgerII - 5250m3 + 1 lowslot
Gallente Iteron - 3000m3 IteronII - 3700m3 IteronIII - 4875m3 IteronIV - 5250m3 IteronV - 6000m3
Minmatar Wreathe - 3300m3 Hoarder - 5100m3 Mammoth - 5625m3 + 1 lowslot
why the bestower was i think because its a lvl1 industrial, perhaps in the future ccp are planing to release more industrial ships for amarr race.
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Cao Cao
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Posted - 2003.12.16 02:23:00 -
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The bonus 5% per training level only applies AFTER the level required for the indy. So at indy level 4, bestower gets 15% bonus on top of their 4 lows. At indy level 5, iteron mk5 gets 0% bonus. However, iteron mk1 gets 20% bonus.
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Naru
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Posted - 2003.12.16 02:52:00 -
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uh no,
they get their bonus based on how many levels your skill is trained in
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Cao Cao
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Posted - 2003.12.16 05:37:00 -
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Quote: uh no,
they get their bonus based on how many levels your skill is trained in
bleh, another rumor I guess. oh well. I heard that it was only based on the number of levels above the requirement to fly the ship.
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Novo DuPont
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Posted - 2003.12.16 09:36:00 -
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Cao Cao:
Unless DEV's changed the game code structure ALL skill bonuses are ALWAYS added first, regardless of if there is any devices installed to enhance the bonus further.
So unless indies are special and can disregard that then I think you are wrong in your statement.
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ClawHammer III
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Posted - 2003.12.16 09:50:00 -
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Edited by: ClawHammer III on 16/12/2003 09:54:04
Quote: Cao Cao:
Unless DEV's changed the game code structure ALL skill bonuses are ALWAYS added first, regardless of if there is any devices installed to enhance the bonus further.
So unless indies are special and can disregard that then I think you are wrong in your statement.
Actually, skills are factored in after modules. If a module adds or subtracts a fixed value you have to apply that to the base value before you factor in skills or other modules that use a multiplier.
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ClawHammer III
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Posted - 2003.12.16 09:56:00 -
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Quote:
Quote: uh no,
they get their bonus based on how many levels your skill is trained in
bleh, another rumor I guess. oh well. I heard that it was only based on the number of levels above the requirement to fly the ship.
That is simply false. Ship bonuses are applied regardless to what level is required to fly the ship.
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Khal St
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Posted - 2003.12.16 11:12:00 -
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Edited by: Khal St on 16/12/2003 11:14:26
Quote: BadgerII - 5250m3 + 1 lowslot
Wo0t! 
/Hangs up Bestower Keys & Dusts off his badger mk2...
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Alkanine
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Posted - 2003.12.16 11:13:00 -
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all the better reason to fly a iteron 5~!
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Captian Jhon
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Posted - 2003.12.16 15:20:00 -
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now is this gonna be on tranquility as well? The BS isn't the one to be afraid of, The attitude of the pilot looking at you through the window and thumb on the fire button is what u should be afraid of....
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Jarjar
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Posted - 2003.12.16 15:25:00 -
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Yay, I'm not feeling stupid for training caldari indy last week anymore 
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Fausto
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Posted - 2003.12.16 15:43:00 -
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If CCP would be soi kind to add two more turret slots to badgerII I would be very greatfull ______
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