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Easthir Ravin Easy Co. Get Off My Lawn 123	Posted - 2016.04.28 02:14:31 - [1] - Quote With all the changes to SOV mechanics / Capital mechanics and Fighter Changes with drones and crap getting placed all over, I would like to make a suggestion. A one time consolidation button that would consolidate all assets to a station of choice. The reason is that after playing for years, and the changes that have been made to SOV, I think it would be a nice gesture on CCP's part to say, "that because we are radically changing the game you have invested so much time in, we are graciously allowing you to consolidate your assets in a location of YOUR choosing. Because we (CCP) can continuously give ourselves "do-overs" you the player base should get at least one "do-over" as well." Reasoning here is that assets that I cannot get too are useless and provide no opportunity for content generation. And unlike Phobe changes (you know the kind that only effected a small percentage of the player base) this consolidation would be for everyone, all nice and fair like. Just my two cents. IN THE IMORTAL WORDS OF SOCRATES: -á" I drank WHAT?!"
Iain Cariaba 2938	Posted - 2016.04.28 02:47:19 - [2] - Quote So you didn't manage to get all your stuff out of Vale before losing it, so now you want CCP to magically transport everything you couldn't be bothered to move yourself. Asset denial is a valid tactic in warfare. What you cannot get to and undock you cannot use against the people now holding the station you have it parked in. Going to give this suggestion a -1, and give you the change from your two cents. EvE is hard. It's harder if you're stupid. I couldn't have said it better. Hello, Mr Carebear. Would you like some cheese with that whine?
Easthir Ravin Easy Co. Get Off My Lawn 123	Posted - 2016.04.28 04:59:48 - [3] - Quote Actually, I do have stuff in VALE, and about 75 other places in EVE, and at one point in time it was only moderately difficult to get around to collect it, given enough cyno's and a long Saturday. Now, however it is a mind numbingly argues process to consolidate assets regardless of where they are. On top I think that this type of reprieve from unwarranted complexity would go a long way to possibly bring back those that left because of the Phoebe catastrophe. Also this speaks to the now defunct contract mechanism that would have allowed me to at least put stuff up on contract. Now I have to fly around to each region to do that. In a game that already takes hours to play at any given sitting, please don't make it even longer to do simple stuff. And you probably do not have any problem with the magical teleportation of assets to other places when citadels get destroyed...so the concept is not new to CCP or their way of thinking. Kinda blows a hole in your asset denial tactic... IN THE IMORTAL WORDS OF SOCRATES: -á" I drank WHAT?!"
sci0gon Kaira Innovations Superior Eve Engineering 45	Posted - 2016.04.28 06:21:13 - [4] - Quote isnt there a loss of some of the items with the teleport with the citadels? I can understand the issue with running around and collecting a load of stuff from all over eve and how tiresome and boring it can be and I could see this one hit wonder being good for that but for people who are involved with the taking and holding of null sec space I dont think this would be a good thing to have.
Easthir Ravin Easy Co. Get Off My Lawn 123	Posted - 2016.04.28 06:27:08 - [5] - Quote sci0gon wrote: isnt there a loss of some of the items with the teleport with the citadels? I can understand the issue with running around and collecting a load of stuff from all over eve and how tiresome and boring it can be and I could see this one hit wonder being good for that but for people who are involved with the taking and holding of null sec space I dont think this would be a good thing to have. Present situation aside, as someone who has been involved in SOV warfare, I could care less if peoples crap is stuck in the station I now took over or not. It truly does not matter. IN THE IMORTAL WORDS OF SOCRATES: -á" I drank WHAT?!"
FireFrenzy SUPREME MATHEMATICS A Band Apart. 664	Posted - 2016.04.28 18:13:40 - [6] - Quote you might want to spend a few billion with blackfrog...
Easthir Ravin Easy Co. Get Off My Lawn 123	Posted - 2016.04.28 19:42:51 - [7] - Quote FireFrenzy wrote: you might want to spend a few billion with blackfrog... While I agree with you whole heartedly about using player run services, I would rather insist CCP fix my issues, like everyone else. IN THE IMORTAL WORDS OF SOCRATES: -á" I drank WHAT?!"
Vic Jefferson Stimulus Rote Kapelle 1000	Posted - 2016.04.28 19:58:05 - [8] - Quote Way too strong. What's to prevent me from making a new account, contracting all my stuff to the new character, hitting the 'move all button' and re-contracting it back? Basically for 15$, I have unlimited mobility. Then when I feel like moving to a new alliance, 15$ moves all my stuff to the new base, and another 15$ moves me back the night before they lose sov. It's best to keep everyone at the same level where there's opportunity costs to having stuff outside of Jita 4-4. There are a few asset liquidation services available in addition to Black Frog, etc. You may want to try them out. Vote Vic Jefferson for CSM XI
Easthir Ravin Easy Co. Get Off My Lawn 123	Posted - 2016.04.29 07:46:44 - [9] - Quote Vic Jefferson wrote: Way too strong. What's to prevent me from making a new account, contracting all my stuff to the new character, hitting the 'move all button' and re-contracting it back? Basically for 15$, I have unlimited mobility. Then when I feel like moving to a new alliance, 15$ moves all my stuff to the new base, and another 15$ moves me back the night before they lose sov. It's best to keep everyone at the same level where there's opportunity costs to having stuff outside of Jita 4-4. There are a few asset liquidation services available in addition to Black Frog, etc. You may want to try them out. Make it a timed event, i.e. You can only do this during the month of October in conjunction with EVE Vegas, then never again...unless of course CCP changes the game so dramatically that it become necessary IN THE IMORTAL WORDS OF SOCRATES: -á" I drank WHAT?!"
Serendipity Lost Repo Industries 1989	Posted - 2016.04.29 16:47:06 - [10] - Quote I think the 4th NO is for reals - at least that is what I used when I was 12. We all have crap all over. It's there because: 1. We didn't think far enough ahead to keep all our stuff consolidated. 2. Someone was better and took our station away from us. 3. We were too lazy to move it when we should have. Yeah contracts changed and that sux.... meh. CCP doesn't have to own our poor decisions. Think about rolling up a noob, putting him in the null station you lost via joining whatever crap alliance now owns it. Fly a stabbed inty out far enough to make a contract. Make a quick friend in the crappy alliance and have it JF'd out to jita on the next round trip. Sure it's work, but if you want something bad enough.....

Vic Jefferson Stimulus Rote Kapelle 1000	Posted - 2016.04.29 18:29:05 - [11] - Quote Easthir Ravin wrote: never again Even this is hilariously exploitable, thanks to alts. One Plex (currently ~900m) lets you essentially move any amount of stuff from any number of points to one place. EvE is about meaningful choices that have consequences. Take away the consequences, and the meaning goes with it. Yes moving needs to be addressed more fully in the post Phoebe world, and yes, I have done a TON of moving and logistics since the changes, but this is not the answer. Vote Vic Jefferson for CSM XI
Lugh Crow-Slave 2357	Posted - 2016.04.30 02:02:09 - [12] - Quote Iain Cariaba wrote: Asset denial is a valid tactic in warfare. Or at least it was before citadel Citadel worm hole tax
Lugh Crow-Slave 2357	Posted - 2016.04.30 02:02:58 - [13] - Quote sci0gon wrote: isnt there a loss of some of the items with the teleport with the citadels? I can understand the issue with running around and collecting a load of stuff from all over eve and how tiresome and boring it can be and I could see this one hit wonder being good for that but for people who are involved with the taking and holding of null sec space I dont think this would be a good thing to have. No there is no loss just a fee Citadel worm hole tax
Easthir Ravin Easy Co. Get Off My Lawn 123	Posted - 2016.05.02 23:12:00 - [14] - Quote Serendipity Lost wrote: I think the 4th NO is for reals - at least that is what I used when I was 12. We all have crap all over. It's there because: 1. We didn't think far enough ahead to keep all our stuff consolidated. 2. Someone was better and took our station away from us. 3. We were too lazy to move it when we should have. Yeah contracts changed and that sux.... meh. CCP doesn't have to own our poor decisions. Think about rolling up a noob, putting him in the null station you lost via joining whatever crap alliance now owns it. Fly a stabbed inty out far enough to make a contract. Make a quick friend in the crappy alliance and have it JF'd out to jita on the next round trip. Sure it's work, but if you want something bad enough..... Blah Blah Blah... This is not about Game play, it is about the fact that when our stuff was spread to kingdom come it was less time consuming to round up, but with the MAJOR changes made to the game, I am just saying it would be a nice gesture (Yes a Gift if you will) from CCP to let us, reconsolidate one time in the life of a character. I would equate this to a very restrictive Neural Remap. Yes thats it, a one time assets remap. IN THE IMORTAL WORDS OF SOCRATES: -á" I drank WHAT?!"
Angelique Duchemin GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 999	Posted - 2016.05.03 00:34:28 - [15] - Quote I personally evacuated Lawn and Bastion from Vale and the window to post courier contracts was over a week. Where were you? The very sun of heaven seemed distorted when viewed through the polarising miasma welling out from this sea-soaked perversion, and twisted menace and suspense lurked leeringly in those crazily elusive angles of carven rock where a second glance shewed concavity after the first shewed convexity.
Easthir Ravin Easy Co. Get Off My Lawn 124	Posted - 2016.05.08 18:44:43 - [16] - Quote Angelique Duchemin wrote: I personally evacuated Lawn and Bastion from Vale and the window to post courier contracts was over a week. Where were you? Overseas on business. IN THE IMORTAL WORDS OF SOCRATES: -á" I drank WHAT?!"
Arya Regnar Darwins Right Hand 1002	Posted - 2016.05.09 19:02:21 - [17] - Quote Vic Jefferson wrote: Way too strong. What's to prevent me from making a new account, contracting all my stuff to the new character, hitting the 'move all button' and re-contracting it back? Basically for 15$, I have unlimited mobility. Then when I feel like moving to a new alliance, 15$ moves all my stuff to the new base, and another 15$ moves me back the night before they lose sov. It's best to keep everyone at the same level where there's opportunity costs to having stuff outside of Jita 4-4. There are a few asset liquidation services available in addition to Black Frog, etc. You may want to try them out. Don't forget people who would buy lowsec and nullsec stuff, not to mention moving stuff from one hub to another without the risk of having freighters ganked. Oh yeah and moving capitals. This thing would be more broken than anything else in the entire history of eve. EvE-Mail me if you need anything.
Felix Judge Regnum Ludorum 39	Posted - 2016.05.10 09:08:09 - [18] - Quote Easthir Ravin wrote: With all the changes to SOV mechanics / Capital mechanics and Fighter Changes with drones and crap getting placed all over, ... and, coincidentally, a major coalition being displaced from large areas of nul sec, and access to their former stations locked, ... Easthir Ravin wrote: I would like to make a suggestion. A one time consolidation button that would consolidate all assets to a station of choice. Yeah, sure.
FT Diomedes The Graduates 2545	Posted - 2016.05.10 10:52:50 - [19] - Quote This is the worst idea I have seen in a while. Just move your stuff like the rest of us... If you have too much to move, you failed to plan properly, well, that's part of Eve. PS - if there is anything I can do to help you move, let me know via alliance communications, but please don't post terrible suggestions on these forums. CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.
Donnachadh United Allegiance of Undesirables 827	Posted - 2016.05.10 12:40:49 - [20] - Quote Sorry can't get on board with this, removes to many players from space that could be targets for enemies of some form or another. Just face the facts that you screwed up and left stuff lying all over New Eden. The boredom, pain and suffering collecting it will cause you should serve as the only lesson you will ever need to ensure your stuff does not get left laying all over the universe again. As my now grown children would say adulting sucks even when it is just a game. Yes many do come here and post ideas that would solve a problem they created, and like all of those ideas yours is going down in flames because of what it is, simple selfishness and the desire to have daddy / mommy CCP clean up your mess instead of being a grown up and doing it for yourself.

Peppermintstix Viziam Amarr Empire 5	Posted - 2016.05.11 12:54:54 - [21] - Quote i would be ok with this as long as its only for assets in high sec and low sec and not null sec. and since its not in null sec it wouldn't have to be just a one time button.. and ccp could just have interbus do the work like they have been wanting to do for years. have interbus's fee be like 5-10% of the total assets for highsec and 15%ish for low sec. Then once you paid up and pick a station depending on how spread out your assets are the longer it takes. But at max it should take no more then 3 days to complete. id still probably limit this feature to once every 6 months though because you don't want to have this ability compete full time with the great people at red frog for example. as far as your assets being stuck in vale, thats the price you pay for not getting them out. I always got my **** to the nearest low sec if i was going to go afk from the game. Your best bet now is to fire sale, 15-20% below jita cost and most of your stuff would sell pretty fast.
Titti Sabezan SYNDIC Unlimited 6	Posted - 2016.05.11 18:48:43 - [22] - Quote TL :: DR Alternative suggestion (to help the OP who has "stuff" lying all over Eden) ++ "Stuff" stays in a starbase for a limited time [say 3 months]. If you don't visit the starbase in that time, it is automatically either put up on a "Hanger Clear-out" Contract and sold, proceeds going to the sov holder (or CODE), or else it's reprocessed and the proceeds sent to Upwell to support new Citadels. Or CCP could just make it vanish, and apply the "worth" towards PLEXes for starving refugees.
Bumblefck Kerensky Initiatives 12007	Posted - 2016.05.11 19:02:08 - [23] - Quote If you're too terminally lazy to go and pick up your crap (seriously...it's your rubbish. Go clean it up), contact Lailika from Tulip Factory - she'll buy all of your highsec crap at Jita buy prices, and low/null too with an appropriate reduction in price. Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi . Bumble's Space Log
Easthir Ravin Easy Co. Get Off My Lawn 125	Posted - 2016.05.13 14:16:05 - [24] - Quote Titti Sabezan wrote: TL :: DR Alternative suggestion (to help the OP who has "stuff" lying all over Eden) ++ "Stuff" stays in a starbase for a limited time [say 3 months]. If you don't visit the starbase in that time, it is automatically either put up on a "Hanger Clear-out" Contract and sold, proceeds going to the sov holder (or CODE), or else it's reprocessed and the proceeds sent to Upwell to support new Citadels. Or CCP could just make it vanish, and apply the "worth" towards PLEXes for starving refugees. No thank you, while I do appreciate all that CODE does for the game they can keep their grubby little high sec griefer hands off my stuff, and Upwell is evil for introducing and advertising Space Cities that hard working planet dwellers see as an escape only to be brutally murdered by capsules because it's shinny... IN THE IMORTAL WORDS OF SOCRATES: -á" I drank WHAT?!"
Titti Sabezan SYNDIC Unlimited 8	Posted - 2016.05.14 09:36:19 - [25] - Quote Easthir Ravin wrote: Titti Sabezan wrote: TL :: DR Alternative suggestion (to help the OP who has "stuff" lying all over Eden) ++ "Stuff" stays in a starbase for a limited time [say 3 months]. If you don't visit the starbase in that time, it is automatically either put up on a "Hanger Clear-out" Contract and sold, proceeds going to the sov holder (or CODE), or else it's reprocessed and the proceeds sent to Upwell to support new Citadels. Or CCP could just make it vanish, and apply the "worth" towards PLEXes for starving refugees. No thank you, while I do appreciate all that CODE does for the game they can keep their grubby little high sec griefer hands off my stuff, and Upwell is evil for introducing and advertising Space Cities that hard working planet dwellers see as an escape only to be brutally murdered by capsules because it's shinny... Thank you, then, for your (implied) support for the "stuff for plexes" option.


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