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Zalathar
Minmatar
Biometaloid INC
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Posted - 2007.02.21 22:00:00 -
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while running a cap simulation for a maelstrom on quickfit, i appears that it had a horrendously low recharge rate. could someone tell me more?
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Zalathar
Minmatar
Biometaloid INC
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Posted - 2007.02.21 22:01:00 -
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gonna have to resize my sig :s
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Tiuwaz
Minmatar
The Nest
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.21 22:02:00 -
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ahahaah aweseome that sigsize was just hilarious 
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Zalathar
Minmatar
Biometaloid INC
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Posted - 2007.02.21 22:06:00 -
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lol, i hosted the wrong picture, i should have hosted the sized down sig, but in hosted the mug shot i had taken to do the sig... Not a clever mistake...well, the proper one is on the way.
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Shadowsword
COLSUP
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.02.21 22:25:00 -
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Your Maelstrom has the same base capacitor values than a Rokh, and Rokh's weapons use cap, yours not. What setup are you using?
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Zalathar
Minmatar
Biometaloid INC
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Posted - 2007.02.21 22:34:00 -
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1 xl shield boost
2 hards
2 SBA
1 AB
3 gyrostabs
1 damage control
1 cpu enhancer
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Zalathar
Minmatar
Biometaloid INC
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Posted - 2007.02.21 22:37:00 -
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Keitaro Baka
Babylon Scientific and Industrial Enterprises
Babylon Project
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Posted - 2007.02.21 23:36:00 -
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Well i'm not much of a shield tanker, but even I know that running a XL shield boost, 2x (invul II prolly) hardners and an AB is not gonna be very nice for your cap..
Add to that you have no cap recharge mods/rigs on there and yeah any BS would have a hard time with that..
All the stuff above does not necessarily reflect my corp, my alliance or even me..
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Plymer Ization
Infinitus Odium
Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.21 23:39:00 -
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This is a thread of ownage.
Now to the topic on hand - cap.
What are you trying to use this Maelstrom for? Looks like a PVE fit, so here's my suggestion:
Swap a Shield Boost Amp for another Hardener, and drop a Gyro or two for some Power Diagnostics. That way, you have increased resists, which means you shouldn't have to boost as often, and you also get a bit more cap capacity, cap regen, shield HP, shield regen and grid for weapons, should you need it. You can't run an XL booster forever unless you spend a couple hundred millions on faction equipment.
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PartyVaN
Minmatar
The Hand Trade Alliance
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.21 23:46:00 -
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Two Shield Boost Amps with the ships boost bonus...
1x XLSB
2x Invul II
1x Photon Scattering II
1x Electrochem Injector w/800s
1x Speed
Mix of PDUIIs and damage mods in the lows.
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Zalathar
Minmatar
Biometaloid INC
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Posted - 2007.02.22 10:54:00 -
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k, thx
the reason i fit the 2 SBA is so that i dont have to shield boost as often, c0s with my skills, i get almost 1000hp per boost (every 4 sec) so before i run out of cap, my shields will be back to 100% :D
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Zalathar
Minmatar
Biometaloid INC
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Posted - 2007.02.22 11:13:00 -
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i have tested a new setup. thx guys, it works alot better.
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Plymer Ization
Infinitus Odium
Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.22 20:01:00 -
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 Originally by: Zalathar
i have tested a new setup. thx guys, it works alot better.
Care to share? 
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Zalathar
Minmatar
Biometaloid INC
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Posted - 2007.02.22 20:08:00 -
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5x 1400mm artillery
3x siege launcher
1 X-L cl5 shield booster
2 specific hardeners
1 invulnerability field
1 AB
1 cap booster (800)
2 gyrostab II
3 PDU
3 ogre
1 heavy shield maintenance bot
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Mastin Dragonfly
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.02.22 20:39:00 -
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You are aware that the shield maintenance drone doesn't work on your own ship, right? Unless you found a nice exploit you like to share.
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6Bagheera9
Shadows of the Dead
Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.22 21:26:00 -
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What exactly are you trying to do with this ship? Your set-up doesn't seem to well suited to any purpose.
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Kegger McManus
Minmatar
Vale Heavy Industries
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.23 02:54:00 -
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8x 1200mm
1x L or XL SB II
3x specific hardeners
1x SBA
1x Whatever (cap recharger?
3x gyro II
2x PDS
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Zalathar
Minmatar
Biometaloid INC
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Posted - 2007.02.23 11:30:00 -
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This is a PvE setup, hopefully lvl4 comptible in a small team (the reason why i have a shield maintenance bot).
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Thor Xian
Vertigo One
E.A.R.T.H. Federation
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Posted - 2007.02.23 11:56:00 -
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8x XXXmm Autos
1x XL Booster, 1x Boost Amp, 2x Inv Fields, 1x mwd/ab, 1x Cap Injector
1x Dmg Control, 2x I-Stab, 2x Gyro or Nanos
Drones of course...whatever you like.
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Zalathar
Minmatar
Biometaloid INC
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Posted - 2007.02.23 12:01:00 -
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i prefer long range setups.
minmy have the longest range weps, so i use them.
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Thor Xian
Vertigo One
E.A.R.T.H. Federation
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Posted - 2007.02.23 12:08:00 -
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Originally by: Zalathar
i prefer long range setups.
minmy have the longest range weps, so i use them.
Rokh?
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Zalathar
Minmatar
Biometaloid INC
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Posted - 2007.02.23 12:21:00 -
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lol, rokh is HELPLESS alone against small opposition.
it is a long range fleet support boat.
+ i wont forsake my own ship tree before i can fly all its ships. after that, i might think about it. but i still doubt i would change.
YYYAAARRR! minmatar pride! we love our pwnage scrapheaps!
duct-tape ftw!
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Mara Wa'alle
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Posted - 2007.02.23 12:25:00 -
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Originally by: Zalathar
lol, rokh is HELPLESS alone against small opposition.
it is a long range fleet support boat.
+ i wont forsake my own ship tree before i can fly all its ships. after that, i might think about it. but i still doubt i would change.
YYYAAARRR! minmatar pride! we love our pwnage scrapheaps!
duct-tape ftw!
Yeah...that's not what he meant. You said minmatar has the longest range weapon type, which is bull****. Hence why he said 'rokh'. Rails are the longest range weps, not artillery.
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Thor Xian
Vertigo One
E.A.R.T.H. Federation
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Posted - 2007.02.23 12:31:00 -
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Originally by: Mara Wa'alle
Originally by: Zalathar
lol, rokh is HELPLESS alone against small opposition.
it is a long range fleet support boat.
+ i wont forsake my own ship tree before i can fly all its ships. after that, i might think about it. but i still doubt i would change.
YYYAAARRR! minmatar pride! we love our pwnage scrapheaps!
duct-tape ftw!
Yeah...that's not what he meant. You said minmatar has the longest range weapon type, which is bull****. Hence why he said 'rokh'. Rails are the longest range weps, not artillery.
That and the Maelstrom is simply better with autocannons...course I think Probes are better with autocannons as well.
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50freefly
Caldari
Purify
Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.02.23 12:36:00 -
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Originally by: Thor Xian
Originally by: Mara Wa'alle
Originally by: Zalathar
lol, rokh is HELPLESS alone against small opposition.
it is a long range fleet support boat.
+ i wont forsake my own ship tree before i can fly all its ships. after that, i might think about it. but i still doubt i would change.
YYYAAARRR! minmatar pride! we love our pwnage scrapheaps!
duct-tape ftw!
Yeah...that's not what he meant. You said minmatar has the longest range weapon type, which is bull****. Hence why he said 'rokh'. Rails are the longest range weps, not artillery.
That and the Maelstrom is simply better with autocannons...course I think Probes are better with autocannons as well.
Agreed. Though I really think that the minni frigs are unbalanced atm, and that the probe needs to be reworked into an arty boat... With a little change it could be an AWESOME gang boat!
Originally by: Eight Ace
For reasons that have been lost in the mists of time all caldari ships are designed by two people. One does the left hand side and the other does the right.
And they never meet.
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Susa Ou
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Posted - 2007.02.23 12:36:00 -
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so you first wanted to ask if you should get a Mael or a Mac. Now you are complaining about the Mael.
1) The Mael Mission setup should not feature 1400s, 1200s are fine. Biggger clip and the pathetic tracking that 1400s have means hitting anything larger then a station is hard. Sure the range is nicce, but you can't keep the range - and you are going to love that 70km haul to the next gate.
It sseems you want the Mac. Anyway.
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Zalathar
Minmatar
Biometaloid INC
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Posted - 2007.02.23 17:24:00 -
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damn, i really offended some people out there... :)
anyway, i am not moaning about the mael, i was asking wether other people encountered the same problem, and what they did to solve it.
isnt the mael too slow to be a usefull short range ship?
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Mastin Dragonfly
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.02.23 18:15:00 -
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Originally by: Zalathar
lol, rokh is HELPLESS alone against small opposition.
Just curious, but why do you think the maelstrom is better vs small opposition than the rokh? Both artillery and railguns have awful tracking. And if you intend to fly in a small gang, then it shouldn't matter anyway, provided the gang is a blend of different shiptypes.
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Felix Dzerzhinsky
Pirates of Destruction Union
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.23 18:19:00 -
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Originally by: Zalathar
damn, i really offended some people out there... :)
anyway, i am not moaning about the mael, i was asking wether other people encountered the same problem, and what they did to solve it.
isnt the mael too slow to be a usefull short range ship?
No offense, its more the frustration some people feel with the ship as a whole.
For one, I think the ship is fine as it is. I would prefer a damage bounus to the RoF bonus, but I don't think thats going to happen. Its a fleet ship, and it forfills that roll well. People will tell you the tempest is better, but you wait and see. . .they will all be in Maelstorms by the end of the year.
As for cap problems, I find its sheild boost bonus makes allows me to boost a lot less. And with good energy skills, it can actually balance the cap out very easily. of course, as with all shield reps, this requires some very expensive mods that I will not use in PvP ever. As a pve ship, the Raven is simply too good to pass up. Its the nature of being able to deal damage in one type. With Cruise missles, its just too good - so why fit a ship that misses half its shots, have variable damge but that versitility is directly related to range, for a little more shield tankage. . . .
If you are serious about mission running, train a raven, I'm not joking, its just the right ship for the job.
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Thor Xian
Vertigo One
E.A.R.T.H. Federation
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Posted - 2007.02.23 18:20:00 -
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Autocannon range isn't as short as it seems. And with t2 guns, rigs, and ammo, you can get pretty good range out of them.
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