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tiller
OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2007.02.22 07:15:00 -
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Edited by: tiller on 22/02/2007 07:13:50
w a r n i n g : this thread due to it's very nature may upset eve's fluffier residents. boohooo BOOM :-D
Hello fellow evil bastards..
I thought I'd continue from where the last smartbomb thread left off and let you all know what happens if you throw a little isk at the problem of killing those wtz *******s that are the bain of every low sec gatecamp.
Now bombing warp to zero has been working real good and pretty much all small ships and pods have been insta popping no problem, but it's just not enough boom... sure having two bombing ships is good but I thought it would be better to have just one uber bomb ship instead. (can we have a dedicated bomber class CCP with smarty bonuses ? :-))
With this in mind I took my trusty evil alt (whos name shall remain secret ;-) to Jita yesterday and purchased 8 faction smart bombs for a total of 320m isk. Due to the limited amount of these on market I ended up with a weird assortment of DB, TS, DG, SS, Dom etc but maybe they would still have the desired effect. With more range and quite alot more dmg I was hoping for nice results...
Anyway to cut to the point of the post, they work just plain awesome. First off the dmg is enough to pop WTZ Haulers as they tumble out of warp but then we get to the increased range. As I am now sitting 7.5km from the gate not only is the 'window' of bombing 15km which increases the chance of a hit, but you also bomb the warp to 15km guys as well...
I think as people start to realize the effect these faction bomb setups can have on wtz, the price will start to go up as supply seems quite limited.
additional : one word of warning, make sure any corp m8s with alts etc know about the camp... blue on blue situations occur way to easily and I think at least 2-3 corpies have died to these bombs in last few days, still, one of them dropped some nice loot
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Zaethiel
Murder-Death-Kill Blood Raiders Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.22 08:20:00 -
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I would say the faction smartbombs are rare because of Motherships =) also smartbombing on gates is nothing new. It been done over and over. Motherships are still best at it. _________________________________________
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lofty29
Athanasius Inc.
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Posted - 2007.02.22 08:55:00 -
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Originally by: Zaethiel I would say the faction smartbombs are rare because of Motherships =) also smartbombing on gates is nothing new. It been done over and over. Motherships are still best at it.
Anyone who runs a TS Smartbomb on a mothership deserves to die Officer ftw. --- http://static.griefwatch.net/gallery/18028383f236b20e4c0f6d7492e58408.gif
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Zaethiel
Murder-Death-Kill Blood Raiders Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.22 09:11:00 -
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Originally by: lofty29
Originally by: Zaethiel I would say the faction smartbombs are rare because of Motherships =) also smartbombing on gates is nothing new. It been done over and over. Motherships are still best at it.
Anyone who runs a TS Smartbomb on a mothership deserves to die Officer ftw.
Officer ones are rather rare as well and very expensive. Carriers often use faction smartbombs. _________________________________________
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tiller
OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2007.02.22 09:26:00 -
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Edited by: tiller on 22/02/2007 09:24:03
Originally by: Zaethiel I would say the faction smartbombs are rare because of Motherships =) also smartbombing on gates is nothing new. It been done over and over. Motherships are still best at it.
How is a mothership better at it ?
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Azerrad InExile
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Posted - 2007.02.22 09:34:00 -
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Originally by: tiller How is a mothership better at it ?
I'm going to guess:
1) Ability to tank sentries forever. 2) Ability to warp/jump if any trouble arrives
However, you give up 2 high slots and thus 2 smartbombs for those advantages.
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tiller
OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2007.02.22 09:47:00 -
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Edited by: tiller on 22/02/2007 09:44:39
Well, my bombing rokh has 8 bombs, 5 stabs and a MWD. Ohh, and it can pretty much perma tank sentrys :-)
Main advantage is it don't cost 25bill isk ;-)
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Michayel Lyon
The Corporation
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Posted - 2007.02.22 10:20:00 -
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Originally by: tiller How is a mothership better at it ?
It's all about the coolness factor.
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tiller
OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2007.02.22 10:29:00 -
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Originally by: Michayel Lyon
Originally by: tiller How is a mothership better at it ?
It's all about the coolness factor.
I'd say carebear factor, lets face it... you don't get yaself one by PVP alone
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.02.22 11:35:00 -
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Aww, tiller is trying to copy Heikki
Good luck, but you probably cannot approach the legendary ownage that the original smartbomber dished out
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hUssmann
Caldari Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.02.22 11:41:00 -
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Originally by: tiller
Originally by: Michayel Lyon
Originally by: tiller How is a mothership better at it ?
It's all about the coolness factor.
I'd say carebear factor, lets face it... you don't get yaself one by PVP alone
TunDragon got theirs from PvP alone iirc.
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Smog890
Minmatar Mortis Angelus Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.22 11:45:00 -
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yeah watch out for that
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Zaethiel
Murder-Death-Kill Blood Raiders Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.22 11:52:00 -
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Edited by: Zaethiel on 22/02/2007 11:49:31
Originally by: tiller
Originally by: Michayel Lyon
Originally by: tiller How is a mothership better at it ?
It's all about the coolness factor. ---------------------------------------------- How is a mothership better at it ?
I'd say carebear factor, lets face it... you don't get yaself one by PVP alone
Unlikely to do it by smartbombing shuttles and noobships, but you can definitely do it by killing all the noobs that rat in 0.0. Learn how to actually kill people without 20+ ships and smartboming defensless ships and you might actually make some isk instead of losing it.
Also a mothership is better at it because they are virtually unkillable in lowsec. 5 stabs work to an extent but they wont save you forever. Heck, MD-K killed tank Ceo in his chimera with 6 ships and he had 4 stabs fitted. if he had killed 1 BS he couldve warped off, but he failed to kill anyone. GF though. (Pre-Revelations so stabs had no negative affects.) _________________________________________
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tiller
OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2007.02.22 12:10:00 -
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Edited by: tiller on 22/02/2007 12:19:48
Originally by: Zaethiel
Learn how to actually kill people without 20+ ships and smartboming defensless ships and you might actually make some isk instead of losing it.
w a r n i n g : this thread due to it's very nature may upset eve's fluffier residents. boohooo BOOM :-D
You come into a thread about smartbombing and have a go at me for SMARTBOMBING SHIPS. I mean, wtf
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Jex Jast
Go for the booty
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Posted - 2007.02.22 12:15:00 -
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I fully support gate bombers. I'll be one myself soon.
Best of luck, tiller.
And your sig never gets old. ---------
Originally by: Marcus TheMartin
Quote: Whats a gatecamp?
Think of it like fishing with a machine gun while in a tent full of people that won't shut up on ts
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tiller
OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2007.02.22 12:26:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari Aww, tiller is trying to copy Heikki
Good luck, but you probably cannot approach the legendary ownage that the original smartbomber dished out
He did a good job and was one of best stories I've read about in eve...
This tactic however is to deal with something new, called... WTZ. You may of heard of it. ;-)
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tiller
OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2007.02.22 12:28:00 -
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Edited by: tiller on 22/02/2007 12:24:53
Originally by: hUssmann
Originally by: tiller
Originally by: Michayel Lyon
Originally by: tiller How is a mothership better at it ?
It's all about the coolness factor.
I'd say carebear factor, lets face it... you don't get yaself one by PVP alone
TunDragon got theirs from PvP alone iirc.
They did well then and had alot of patience. I die too much and take too many risks to make good isk tbh... playing safe is very VERY dull and not something I'm ever gonna do.
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LittleTerror
Caldari Infinitus Odium Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.22 12:38:00 -
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*sends ALT to empire to buy some smarties*
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DarkElf
Caldari Veto. Academy
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Posted - 2007.02.22 13:23:00 -
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Originally by: Zaethiel Learn how to actually kill people without 20+ ships and smartboming defensless ships and you might actually make some isk instead of losing it.
have snowy even got 20 members lol. don't think i've ever seen 1 of their killmails with more than 6 ppl on.
DE
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Marcus TheMartin
Gallente Tuxedo.
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Posted - 2007.02.22 13:28:00 -
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Originally by: Zaethiel Edited by: Zaethiel on 22/02/2007 11:49:31
Originally by: tiller
Originally by: Michayel Lyon
Originally by: tiller How is a mothership better at it ?
It's all about the coolness factor. ---------------------------------------------- How is a mothership better at it ?
I'd say carebear factor, lets face it... you don't get yaself one by PVP alone
Unlikely to do it by smartbombing shuttles and noobships, but you can definitely do it by killing all the noobs that rat in 0.0. Learn how to actually kill people without 20+ ships and smartboming defensless ships and you might actually make some isk instead of losing it.
You of all people should know better than to use the standard anti gate camper argument
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easei
Caldari Energy. Koroshiya Buntai
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Posted - 2007.02.22 19:03:00 -
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Originally by: tiller Edited by: tiller on 22/02/2007 09:24:03
Originally by: Zaethiel I would say the faction smartbombs are rare because of Motherships =) also smartbombing on gates is nothing new. It been done over and over. Motherships are still best at it.
How is a mothership better at it ?
SB range is off of the ships hull not it's center so larger ships have a larger effective area for damage.
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zwerg
Caldari OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2007.02.22 22:43:00 -
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yarrrr! give us the bombarock!
Describtion: Tiller's favortie toy.
Slot Layout:
8/5/6
Bonuses:
20% Bonus to smartbomb range and 10% bonus to Smartbomb Damage per level.
now serious, thats what we need in da game!!!
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Dr Slice
OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2007.02.22 22:50:00 -
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Originally by: tiller Edited by: tiller on 22/02/2007 12:19:48
Originally by: Zaethiel
Learn how to actually kill people without 20+ ships and smartboming defensless ships and you might actually make some isk instead of losing it.
w a r n i n g : this thread due to it's very nature may upset eve's fluffier residents. boohooo BOOM :-D
You come into a thread about smartbombing and have a go at me for SMARTBOMBING SHIPS. I mean, wtf
lol I was thinking the same thing Tiller. Very strange.
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Zaethiel
Murder-Death-Kill Blood Raiders Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.22 22:53:00 -
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Edited by: Zaethiel on 22/02/2007 22:51:50
Originally by: Marcus TheMartin
Originally by: Zaethiel Edited by: Zaethiel on 22/02/2007 11:49:31
Originally by: tiller
Originally by: Michayel Lyon
Originally by: tiller How is a mothership better at it ?
It's all about the coolness factor. ---------------------------------------------- How is a mothership better at it ?
I'd say carebear factor, lets face it... you don't get yaself one by PVP alone
Unlikely to do it by smartbombing shuttles and noobships, but you can definitely do it by killing all the noobs that rat in 0.0. Learn how to actually kill people without 20+ ships and smartboming defensless ships and you might actually make some isk instead of losing it.
You of all people should know better than to use the standard anti gate camper argument
?; i know i gate camp here and there but i roam and do a lot of small gang/ solo killing. I made 1 bill isk from killing people in 0.0 solo in a little under a month. Though most of my 0.0 roaming was small gang. _________________________________________
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Dr Slice
OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2007.02.22 22:56:00 -
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Carnage
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Zaethiel
Murder-Death-Kill Blood Raiders Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.22 23:03:00 -
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Originally by: DarkElf
Originally by: Zaethiel Learn how to actually kill people without 20+ ships and smartboming defensless ships and you might actually make some isk instead of losing it.
have snowy even got 20 members lol. don't think i've ever seen 1 of their killmails with more than 6 ppl on.
DE
i count 13 in the carnage picture. 14 if you count the grey guy. _________________________________________
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Dr Slice
OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2007.02.22 23:11:00 -
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Originally by: Zaethiel
Originally by: DarkElf
Originally by: Zaethiel Learn how to actually kill people without 20+ ships and smartboming defensless ships and you might actually make some isk instead of losing it.
have snowy even got 20 members lol. don't think i've ever seen 1 of their killmails with more than 6 ppl on.
DE
i count 13 in the carnage picture. 14 if you count the grey guy.
34 members and growing How are the MDK guys doing these days?
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Jhonen Senraedi
Minmatar Aonyma Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.02.22 23:55:00 -
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Edited by: Jhonen Senraedi on 22/02/2007 23:54:36
Originally by: tiller[/quote
They did well then and had alot of patience. I die too much and take too many risks to make good isk tbh... playing safe is very VERY dull and not something I'm ever gonna do.
Like the way you take risks....massive gatecamps in Dreads etc to gank haulers and noobie frigs..wow..mighty risk...
And..how exactly does your fit constitute a risk...5 WCS FFFS...Living on the edge there Tiller..
Yet another self promoting thread form the guys in SNOWY...mind you waiting for the guide that they willbe expert at...
OCTOBER SNOW'S GUIDE TO DOCKING AND LOGGING..
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Speed Devil
Caldari Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.22 23:55:00 -
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Originally by: tiller
Originally by: Dark Shikari Aww, tiller is trying to copy Heikki
Good luck, but you probably cannot approach the legendary ownage that the original smartbomber dished out
He did a good job and was one of best stories I've read about in eve...
This tactic however is to deal with something new, called... WTZ. You may of heard of it. ;-)
not really new actually...
he caught alot of intys in 0.0 with instas and thats almost exactly the same like WTZ
Originally by: Merkanas To people who can't understand: there are rules and there are morals, don't get them confused. If rules allow it and you have no moral objection, by all means... have fun. |
Zaethiel
Murder-Death-Kill Blood Raiders Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.23 00:01:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Slice
Originally by: Zaethiel
Originally by: DarkElf
Originally by: Zaethiel Learn how to actually kill people without 20+ ships and smartboming defensless ships and you might actually make some isk instead of losing it.
have snowy even got 20 members lol. don't think i've ever seen 1 of their killmails with more than 6 ppl on.
DE
i count 13 in the carnage picture. 14 if you count the grey guy.
34 members and growing How are the MDK guys doing these days?
Doing good. Moving, resituating. _________________________________________
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