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Heikki
Gallente Wreckless Abandon The UnAssociated
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Posted - 2007.02.23 01:25:00 -
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I have this strange urge to participate in all smartbomb threads, whether I have anything new to add..
Originally by: tiller This tactic however is to deal with something new, called... WTZ
Alas, in 0.0 WTZ seems to have reduced the effectiviness of such tactics. People seem far more eager to warp to a planet and then to a gate, even when seeing only single person in local.
Anyway, something almost new: quick (undocumented) tool to play and see how well smarties should kill things: http://tirannon.tky.hut.fi/cgi-bin/ship_bombs.pl
-Lasse experimenting with smarties again
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Heikki
Gallente Wreckless Abandon The UnAssociated
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Posted - 2007.02.23 01:25:00 -
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I have this strange urge to participate in all smartbomb threads, whether I have anything new to add..
Originally by: tiller This tactic however is to deal with something new, called... WTZ
Alas, in 0.0 WTZ seems to have reduced the effectiviness of such tactics. People seem far more eager to warp to a planet and then to a gate, even when seeing only single person in local.
Anyway, something almost new: quick (undocumented) tool to play and see how well smarties should kill things: http://tirannon.tky.hut.fi/cgi-bin/ship_bombs.pl
-Lasse experimenting with smarties again
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AKULA UrQuan
Caldari STK Scientific INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.02.23 02:52:00 -
[33]
Humm..So I take it smartbombs are the only way to pirate in lowsec these days?
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AKULA UrQuan
Caldari STK Scientific INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.02.23 02:52:00 -
[34]
Humm..So I take it smartbombs are the only way to pirate in lowsec these days?
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tiller
OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2007.02.23 06:55:00 -
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Edited by: tiller on 23/02/2007 06:51:56
Originally by: Jhonen Senraedi Edited by: Jhonen Senraedi on 22/02/2007 23:54:36
Originally by: tiller[/quote
They did well then and had alot of patience. I die too much and take too many risks to make good isk tbh... playing safe is very VERY dull and not something I'm ever gonna do.
Like the way you take risks....massive gatecamps in Dreads etc to gank haulers and noobie frigs..wow..mighty risk...
And..how exactly does your fit constitute a risk...5 WCS FFFS...Living on the edge there Tiller..
Yet another self promoting thread form the guys in SNOWY...mind you waiting for the guide that they willbe expert at...
OCTOBER SNOW'S GUIDE TO DOCKING AND LOGGING..
Your a funny guy
I'd argue the opposite, low sec gate camping with cap ships is dam risky unless you have a mothership. Wether your in a dread or a carrier, one well tanked 'bait' ship is gonna pin you down while his buddys come in a drain you to death. I'm guessing you don't even fly a cap ship in PVP ?
As far as the stabs, I don't need my low slots so why should I not decrease my risk of being caught. They have saved me once already with 3 guys scrambling me.
Ahhh, I get it... you think I should take a bigger risk for no reason ?
My new setup will be 5 expanded cargo hold II and 100,000 morphite in cargo.
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tiller
OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2007.02.23 06:55:00 -
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Edited by: tiller on 23/02/2007 06:51:56
Originally by: Jhonen Senraedi Edited by: Jhonen Senraedi on 22/02/2007 23:54:36
Originally by: tiller[/quote
They did well then and had alot of patience. I die too much and take too many risks to make good isk tbh... playing safe is very VERY dull and not something I'm ever gonna do.
Like the way you take risks....massive gatecamps in Dreads etc to gank haulers and noobie frigs..wow..mighty risk...
And..how exactly does your fit constitute a risk...5 WCS FFFS...Living on the edge there Tiller..
Yet another self promoting thread form the guys in SNOWY...mind you waiting for the guide that they willbe expert at...
OCTOBER SNOW'S GUIDE TO DOCKING AND LOGGING..
Your a funny guy
I'd argue the opposite, low sec gate camping with cap ships is dam risky unless you have a mothership. Wether your in a dread or a carrier, one well tanked 'bait' ship is gonna pin you down while his buddys come in a drain you to death. I'm guessing you don't even fly a cap ship in PVP ?
As far as the stabs, I don't need my low slots so why should I not decrease my risk of being caught. They have saved me once already with 3 guys scrambling me.
Ahhh, I get it... you think I should take a bigger risk for no reason ?
My new setup will be 5 expanded cargo hold II and 100,000 morphite in cargo.
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tiller
OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2007.02.23 07:02:00 -
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Originally by: Heikki I have this strange urge to participate in all smartbomb threads, whether I have anything new to add..
Originally by: tiller This tactic however is to deal with something new, called... WTZ
Alas, in 0.0 WTZ seems to have reduced the effectiviness of such tactics. People seem far more eager to warp to a planet and then to a gate, even when seeing only single person in local.
Anyway, something almost new: quick (undocumented) tool to play and see how well smarties should kill things: http://tirannon.tky.hut.fi/cgi-bin/ship_bombs.pl
-Lasse experimenting with smarties again
aha the great Heikki is here, im honoured. Fancy coming down to one of our camps one day as a 'guest bomber' ?
convo me in game
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tiller
OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2007.02.23 07:02:00 -
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Originally by: Heikki I have this strange urge to participate in all smartbomb threads, whether I have anything new to add..
Originally by: tiller This tactic however is to deal with something new, called... WTZ
Alas, in 0.0 WTZ seems to have reduced the effectiviness of such tactics. People seem far more eager to warp to a planet and then to a gate, even when seeing only single person in local.
Anyway, something almost new: quick (undocumented) tool to play and see how well smarties should kill things: http://tirannon.tky.hut.fi/cgi-bin/ship_bombs.pl
-Lasse experimenting with smarties again
aha the great Heikki is here, im honoured. Fancy coming down to one of our camps one day as a 'guest bomber' ?
convo me in game
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Hypatia Iola
Caldari Warhounds
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Posted - 2007.02.23 07:48:00 -
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alright jhonen, that was kinda pointless man, a meaningless stab put in exclusively for self gratification.
tiller, your turn, every post i've ever seen you start (and about 2/3s of the ones i've seen you add to) have been identical in form....
that said, they're still funny as hell. i toally disagree with your gameplay, though i have no problem with PvP or even being blobbed really (it's been happenening a lot since i moved to lowsec), but it doesn't stop me from laughing at some of the people who seem to have this "Logic-Off" switch any time you post. by the way, i'm all 10 of the top 10 pvpers in eve. just informing everyone http://us.f2.yahoofs.com/users/45d4e030z1b06b782/flibbertigibbet2/__sr_/72c2scd.jpg?pf0GO1FB.4ah3.DN |
Hypatia Iola
Caldari Warhounds
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Posted - 2007.02.23 07:48:00 -
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alright jhonen, that was kinda pointless man, a meaningless stab put in exclusively for self gratification.
tiller, your turn, every post i've ever seen you start (and about 2/3s of the ones i've seen you add to) have been identical in form....
that said, they're still funny as hell. i toally disagree with your gameplay, though i have no problem with PvP or even being blobbed really (it's been happenening a lot since i moved to lowsec), but it doesn't stop me from laughing at some of the people who seem to have this "Logic-Off" switch any time you post. by the way, i'm all 10 of the top 10 pvpers in eve. just informing everyone http://us.f2.yahoofs.com/users/45d4e030z1b06b782/flibbertigibbet2/__sr_/72c2scd.jpg?pf0GO1FB.4ah3.DN |
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Miz Cenuij
Simply Smacktackular SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.23 07:55:00 -
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LOL, if you want to see someone smartbombing with style mate, watch this video..
Mass Murder in empire
8 suicide bomber geddons per day. 8 days of carnage in HIGH sec. The above jihad resulted in 2 forum posts, each with over 10k reads and several hundred replies, eve underground radio interview, ISD interview, Eve gaurdian interview and 1 final warning...
LOL, its been done Tiller, with more style, more pinache, more ISK, more risk and more skill than you are currently bragging about.
You still got a lot to learn young nubbin.
"Men are going to die..
and im going to kill them". |
Miz Cenuij
Simply Smacktackular SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.23 07:55:00 -
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LOL, if you want to see someone smartbombing with style mate, watch this video..
Mass Murder in empire
8 suicide bomber geddons per day. 8 days of carnage in HIGH sec. The above jihad resulted in 2 forum posts, each with over 10k reads and several hundred replies, eve underground radio interview, ISD interview, Eve gaurdian interview and 1 final warning...
LOL, its been done Tiller, with more style, more pinache, more ISK, more risk and more skill than you are currently bragging about.
You still got a lot to learn young nubbin.
"Men are going to die..
and im going to kill them". |
tiller
OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2007.02.23 08:32:00 -
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Edited by: tiller on 23/02/2007 08:55:39
Originally by: Miz Cenuij LOL, if you want to see someone smartbombing with style mate, watch this video..
Mass Murder in empire
8 suicide bomber geddons per day. 8 days of carnage in HIGH sec. The above jihad resulted in 2 forum posts, each with over 10k reads and several hundred replies, eve underground radio interview, ISD interview, Eve gaurdian interview and 1 final warning...
LOL, its been done Tiller, with more style, more pinache, more ISK, more risk and more skill than you are currently bragging about.
You still got a lot to learn young nubbin.
This is not a thread about suicide geddons in empire... your in the wrong thread. I'm not bragging numbnuts, Im trying to let other pirates know of tactics I'm trying...
Did you know that a faction bomber would be much more effective than a t1 bomber for WTZ bombing ?
Did you know that the extended range would help with WTZ bombing ?
Did you know if it's possible to pop a cruiser or hauler with a single bomber ship ?
Did you know the isk investment would be worthwhile ?
Did you know it's possible to bomb WTZ and 15km at the same time ?
....I didn't hence my experiments. I'm not the first, I'm not the best (though being the 2nd best PVPer in eve helps :-)
If you already know everything I'm talking about just ignore this post and do something else constructive rather than pointless flames. ZOMG SNOWY THREAD MUST DESTROY
Your just another smacktard in a SNOWY thread, gratz.
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tiller
OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2007.02.23 08:32:00 -
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Edited by: tiller on 23/02/2007 08:55:39
Originally by: Miz Cenuij LOL, if you want to see someone smartbombing with style mate, watch this video..
Mass Murder in empire
8 suicide bomber geddons per day. 8 days of carnage in HIGH sec. The above jihad resulted in 2 forum posts, each with over 10k reads and several hundred replies, eve underground radio interview, ISD interview, Eve gaurdian interview and 1 final warning...
LOL, its been done Tiller, with more style, more pinache, more ISK, more risk and more skill than you are currently bragging about.
You still got a lot to learn young nubbin.
This is not a thread about suicide geddons in empire... your in the wrong thread. I'm not bragging numbnuts, Im trying to let other pirates know of tactics I'm trying...
Did you know that a faction bomber would be much more effective than a t1 bomber for WTZ bombing ?
Did you know that the extended range would help with WTZ bombing ?
Did you know if it's possible to pop a cruiser or hauler with a single bomber ship ?
Did you know the isk investment would be worthwhile ?
Did you know it's possible to bomb WTZ and 15km at the same time ?
....I didn't hence my experiments. I'm not the first, I'm not the best (though being the 2nd best PVPer in eve helps :-)
If you already know everything I'm talking about just ignore this post and do something else constructive rather than pointless flames. ZOMG SNOWY THREAD MUST DESTROY
Your just another smacktard in a SNOWY thread, gratz.
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Riho
Red Wrath Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2007.02.23 08:55:00 -
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Originally by: tiller Edited by: tiller on 22/02/2007 09:24:03
Originally by: Zaethiel I would say the faction smartbombs are rare because of Motherships =) also smartbombing on gates is nothing new. It been done over and over. Motherships are still best at it.
How is a mothership better at it ?
it has the PG to fit officer smartbombs :D now thats sick :D
Great being Gallente... aint it ? ----------------- <------ Hijack free space :) ----------------- |
Riho
Red Wrath Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2007.02.23 08:55:00 -
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Originally by: tiller Edited by: tiller on 22/02/2007 09:24:03
Originally by: Zaethiel I would say the faction smartbombs are rare because of Motherships =) also smartbombing on gates is nothing new. It been done over and over. Motherships are still best at it.
How is a mothership better at it ?
it has the PG to fit officer smartbombs :D now thats sick :D
Great being Gallente... aint it ? ----------------- <------ Hijack free space :) ----------------- |
Zaethiel
Murder-Death-Kill Blood Raiders Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.23 09:46:00 -
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Did you know that a faction bomber would be much more effective than a t1 bomber for WTZ bombing ? You really should re-read this question. Quite Obviously yes; duh. Doubt anyone would say no to this one.
Did you know that the extended range would help with WTZ bombing ? Why wouldnt it?
Did you know if it's possible to pop a cruiser or hauler with a single bomber ship ? Cant pop any decent cruisers or haulers but you can easily pop all the noobs.
Did you know the isk investment would be worthwhile ? Its your opinion that its worthwhile. It'd be my opinion that smartbombing little things would be a waste of time unless you want to killmail *****; of which i did enough of personally by sniping in tama.
Did you know it's possible to bomb WTZ and 15km at the same time ?
Did you know a mothership is so large that with 9km smartbombs they can hit almost anything that decloaks on a gate. (of course depends on what racial gate it is) minmatar ftl =(
Your just another smacktard in a SNOWY thread, gratz. One way of putting it, but at the end of the day your the one smartbombing noobs in low-sec.
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Zaethiel
Murder-Death-Kill Blood Raiders Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.23 09:46:00 -
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Did you know that a faction bomber would be much more effective than a t1 bomber for WTZ bombing ? You really should re-read this question. Quite Obviously yes; duh. Doubt anyone would say no to this one.
Did you know that the extended range would help with WTZ bombing ? Why wouldnt it?
Did you know if it's possible to pop a cruiser or hauler with a single bomber ship ? Cant pop any decent cruisers or haulers but you can easily pop all the noobs.
Did you know the isk investment would be worthwhile ? Its your opinion that its worthwhile. It'd be my opinion that smartbombing little things would be a waste of time unless you want to killmail *****; of which i did enough of personally by sniping in tama.
Did you know it's possible to bomb WTZ and 15km at the same time ?
Did you know a mothership is so large that with 9km smartbombs they can hit almost anything that decloaks on a gate. (of course depends on what racial gate it is) minmatar ftl =(
Your just another smacktard in a SNOWY thread, gratz. One way of putting it, but at the end of the day your the one smartbombing noobs in low-sec.
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tiller
OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2007.02.23 11:31:00 -
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Edited by: tiller on 23/02/2007 11:36:03 Edited by: tiller on 23/02/2007 11:28:11
Originally by: Zaethiel Did you know that a faction bomber would be much more effective than a t1 bomber for WTZ bombing ? You really should re-read this question. Quite Obviously yes; duh. Doubt anyone would say no to this one.
Did you know that the extended range would help with WTZ bombing ? Why wouldnt it?
Did you know if it's possible to pop a cruiser or hauler with a single bomber ship ? Cant pop any decent cruisers or haulers but you can easily pop all the noobs.
Did you know the isk investment would be worthwhile ? Its your opinion that its worthwhile. It'd be my opinion that smartbombing little things would be a waste of time unless you want to killmail *****; of which i did enough of personally by sniping in tama.
Did you know it's possible to bomb WTZ and 15km at the same time ?
Did you know a mothership is so large that with 9km smartbombs they can hit almost anything that decloaks on a gate. (of course depends on what racial gate it is) minmatar ftl =(
Your just another smacktard in a SNOWY thread, gratz. One way of putting it, but at the end of the day your the one smartbombing noobs in low-sec.
Ahahaha, this is a thread about smartbombing EVERYONE in low sec. I don't give a dam if they are 1 day old of 3 years. I certainly don't check before hitting the F keys.
People just get this idea that you must only kill a worthy opponent. You can play that style if you wish, I never will.
When SNOWY camp a gate we try to shut it down. That means everyone coming in and leaving we want to kill. Bombing is a essential part of the lock down... and the smaller ships often carry the nicest stuff
Here is a example of a 'worthy' victim -
I had a long convo last night with some poor soul who lost his cheetah and pod on WTZ. His exact words were 'I thought I was immune in low sec'
Ermmm no m8, and thanks for the cloak :-)
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NotNowKato
Mitsukashi Holdings Limited Astral Wolves
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Posted - 2007.02.23 12:03:00 -
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Originally by: tiller [ ....I didn't hence my experiments. I'm not the first, I'm not the best (though being the 2nd best PVPer in eve helps :-)
ahaha ahaha ahahaha you are kidding right ?
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B0rn2KiLL
DEATHFUNK
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Posted - 2007.02.23 12:12:00 -
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*sigh*
people just cant stop themselvs bragging\smacking, *spits*
keep them corpses comin tiller man. ---
new sig, Hijack it and ill eat u. *Imaran hands B0rn2KiLL a fork - Come get some!11
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Zaethiel
Murder-Death-Kill Blood Raiders Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.23 12:23:00 -
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If your lucky enough small ships do drop good loot sometimes.
I never said anything about fair fights, but since you brought it up; pirating is mostly ganking victims that have little or no chance to fight back. Every now and then someone will bring some force to table and most of the time we will take the fight for hte heck of it personally. Since i started pirating ive been involved in numerous decent gang v gang action. Win some lose some its all fun. You all may dock when a 20 man gang comes into local, but if theres the slightest chance we can win; we will win. Those types of fights make up some of the funnest times i've ever had in Eve.
Gate camping is great and all, i gate camp a lot, but roaming gets you kills with isk and take some skill. Most of the time they have no chance of winning the fight but every now and then a target will hit you with a curve ball and will force you to run or die.
As for smartbombing. Its great for taking out every little thing. Problem is if you take out the smart persons scout they are unlikely to warp their freighter in As for making a thread about using faction smartbombs over tech 1; who really cares. Obviously faction are better. Officer are even better than that. The post was just a pointless cry for attention. I felt generous today and needed something to do in between gate targets, so i felt id entertain.
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tiller
OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2007.02.23 13:14:00 -
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Originally by: Zaethiel
As for making a thread about using faction smartbombs over tech 1; who really cares. Obviously faction are better.
The point was wether it was worth the investment.. they turned out to be everything I hoped so thought I'd share the experience and what can be expected from them.
For someone who proclaims they don't care you post alot in my thread. When I don't care about something I don't generally devote any time to the subject.
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Zaethiel
Murder-Death-Kill Blood Raiders Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.23 13:18:00 -
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Edited by: Zaethiel on 23/02/2007 13:17:05
Originally by: tiller
Originally by: Zaethiel
As for making a thread about using faction smartbombs over tech 1; who really cares. Obviously faction are better.
The point was wether it was worth the investment.. they turned out to be everything I hoped so thought I'd share the experience and what can be expected from them.
For someone who proclaims they don't care you post alot in my thread. When I don't care about something I don't generally devote any time to the subject.
Originally by: Zaethiel i felt id entertain.
Read my entire post before responding with a statement attacking my reasoning. _________________________________________
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tiller
OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2007.02.23 13:29:00 -
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Edited by: tiller on 23/02/2007 13:35:18
Originally by: Zaethiel
Read my entire post before responding with a statement attacking my reasoning.
Your posts are the odd chunk of good reasoning split up with random flames. The negative however fuels my fire more than anything worthy you have contributed and as such all I'll reply to.
The continued hate for SNOWY corp and anything we do within eve and here on the forums just further cements our place at the top of the piracy food chain. Hate is the best measure of your pirate sucess and e-peen length.
Well, gotta log into game now, gonna dream up some new evil plan for carebear genocide with Ginger.
o/
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Zaethiel
Murder-Death-Kill Blood Raiders Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.23 14:09:00 -
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Originally by: tiller Edited by: tiller on 23/02/2007 14:03:18
Originally by: Zaethiel
Read my entire post before responding with a statement attacking my reasoning.
Your posts are the odd chunk of good reasoning split up with random flames. The negative however fuels my fire more than anything worthy you have contributed and as such all I'll reply to.
The continued hate for SNOWY corp and anything we do within eve and here on the forums just further cements our place at the top of the piracy food chain.
I put you in the catagory as ROMEO. _________________________________________
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Zaqar
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Posted - 2007.02.23 15:58:00 -
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Originally by: Zaethiel My post was just a pointless cry for attention.
Fixed!
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Halod Crane
Bastage Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.02.23 18:25:00 -
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Edited by: Halod Crane on 23/02/2007 18:22:02 Tiller,
I appreciate your posting about bombing WTZ, having never tried it myself I found it helpfull and a 'proof of concept' if you will for trying it myself. I'm sure other people have done it before you, but as far as I can tell they weren't nice enough to post about how to do it well. Ignore the guys who seem to think the only thing worth posting on the boards is a flame.
For the record, I've never met tiller nor played with him, I am not a fanboy I just think people posting pointless flames are the George Bushs of the internet forum. Regardless of wether or not the information is obvious, it's still information that is helpfull to some.
Go DIAF, flamers.
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shadow saber
Golden Fury Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.23 22:45:00 -
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pmsl tiller can u ever say anything without being smacked and flamed bout it u make my day lol might come fly with u again if i can be assed to get a decent comp lol c ya dude
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Jex Jast
Go for the booty
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Posted - 2007.02.23 22:54:00 -
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Originally by: shadow saber pmsl tiller can u ever say anything without being smacked and flamed bout it u make my day lol might come fly with u again if i can be assed to get a decent comp lol c ya dude
The above is called a "stream of consciousness". Typically, you translate it into language before writing it, but it still serves its purpose.
Crane is right.
And being compared to R0MEO is something beyond what tiller's doing. Far beyond.
</random input> ---------
Originally by: Marcus TheMartin
Quote: Whats a gatecamp?
Think of it like fishing with a machine gun while in a tent full of people that won't shut up on ts
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