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Zeveron
Generals Of Destruction Syndicate
X-PACT
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Posted - 2007.02.24 11:06:00 -
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Edited by: Zeveron on 24/02/2007 11:03:26
 Originally by: Mesuk Esuckee
1. Goons put the POS into reinforced. They realize there's been an error in the stront timing, and those 200 goons log off in-system so that they are already behind the inevitable gate camp. Following me so far? Mmm-kay.
So GS abusing a bug for their own profit.
Exploit? No, bcs CCP cannot proove it.
Lame? Yes.
Originally by: Mesuk Esuckee
2. Now, the main force assembles at the gate. Meanwhile, any covops that were already in system (see #1 if you've forgotten already) start setting up warp-ins on the snipers at the camp.
See above.
Originally by: Mesuk Esuckee
3. The rest of the force already in system logs on (again, see #1) and prepares to jump the snipers. Several wings of cheap EWAR frig and cruiser support ships jump in to tie up and distract the main body of the gate camp, and hopefully get the snipers too busy to notice that a sizable fleet just landed on top of them thanks to those covops'(see #2).
See above x2
Now in my eyes GS abused a bug to gain profit.
You cannot call it exploit bcs no way ccp can proove it.
GS also used the lame login/logoff tactic.
What if the reinforced timer wasnt bugged?
What if the node didnt crashed several times?
I belive that LV would have boost the shield at the pos and now gona had 1 titan more.
So they have the right to blame CCP about their loss.
No GS, but CCP.
At the rest of ur points I have to aggree with you, well said :-)
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Gnulpie
Minmatar
Miner Tech
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Posted - 2007.02.24 11:40:00 -
[152]
Originally by: Zeveron
Edited by: Zeveron on 24/02/2007 11:03:26
Originally by: Mesuk Esuckee
1. Goons put the POS into reinforced. They realize there's been an error in the stront timing, and those 200 goons log off in-system so that they are already behind the inevitable gate camp. Following me so far? Mmm-kay.
So GS abusing a bug for their own profit.
Exploit? No, bcs CCP cannot proove it.
Lame? Yes.
Amusing. LV made a mistake in putting the wrong amount of strontium in their tower and you blame GS for using that blunder after they noticed it?
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Zeveron
Generals Of Destruction Syndicate
X-PACT
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Posted - 2007.02.24 11:51:00 -
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Originally by: Gnulpie
Amusing. LV made a mistake in putting the wrong amount of strontium in their tower and you blame GS for using that blunder after they noticed it?
I thought there was a bug on the timer.
If it was a stront supply error nvm.
But never the less, loging off 200 ppl in a system is a lame tactic.
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Goumindong
Amarr
Merch Industrial
We Are Nice Guys
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Posted - 2007.02.24 12:05:00 -
[154]
Originally by: Heldane
The way I read it GoonSwarm threw a suicide fleet of around 100 ships at you before the rest of the fleet arrived. This is something they are known to do all the time in order to test the defenses of the enemy in a cheap manner. Of course you used this to boast endlessly about your prowess and used it as the basis for your "we pwnd their first fleet they never could have defeated us" and also based your "they launched multiple fleets into the gate to intentionally crash the node" on this one act even though the timeline of the events clearly do not add up.
By LV's account they are completely unbeatable unless the enemy cheats or has GM/Dev help (a completely idiotic accusation considering the scandal with BoB was in full swing and no GM/Dev would be dumb enough to even attempt something like that at the time). Get a clue people.
There was a suicide fleet, But it was not to test the defenses of the enemy. Its probably been mentioned what the purpose was in here before, but i wont be divulging that info.
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Helina Malinos
Caldari
Euro Traders
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Posted - 2007.02.24 12:05:00 -
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Originally by: merc999
just been told that over 100 Goons are now docked in the old LV station in JV1
Good BLOB to all involved
Fixed
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bulabuba
Gallente
Klima Galactic
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Posted - 2007.02.24 13:01:00 -
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Hmmm... well, I don't know of a polite way to say this, so I'll just say it. Don't be a-holes when you're winning.
For crissakes. Some of you in Goon sound just like DB Preacher. Is that what this war is about? You had it rubbed in your face, so now you want to be the ones rubbing it in people's faces?
In the process of beating BoB, try not to become BoB, or ultimately you'll meet the same fate as BoB at the hands of some of the vary people you're taunting and humilliating now. Respect from others starts with self-respect. Don't be what you hate.
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Popsikle
Shadows of the Dead
Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.24 15:49:00 -
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Originally by: bulabuba
Hmmm... well, I don't know of a polite way to say this, so I'll just say it. Don't be a-holes when you're winning.
For crissakes. Some of you in Goon sound just like DB Preacher. Is that what this war is about? You had it rubbed in your face, so now you want to be the ones rubbing it in people's faces?
In the process of beating BoB, try not to become BoB, or ultimately you'll meet the same fate as BoB at the hands of some of the vary people you're taunting and humilliating now. Respect from others starts with self-respect. Don't be what you hate.
Thats the problem with hate.
When you hate something you become that which you hate. The coalition might not see it, but they have become the very thing they claim to hate so much about LV/BoB.
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Caldari
The Keep
THE R0CK
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Posted - 2007.02.24 16:49:00 -
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Originally by: Popsikle
Originally by: bulabuba
Hmmm... well, I don't know of a polite way to say this, so I'll just say it. Don't be a-holes when you're winning.
For crissakes. Some of you in Goon sound just like DB Preacher. Is that what this war is about? You had it rubbed in your face, so now you want to be the ones rubbing it in people's faces?
In the process of beating BoB, try not to become BoB, or ultimately you'll meet the same fate as BoB at the hands of some of the vary people you're taunting and humilliating now. Respect from others starts with self-respect. Don't be what you hate.
Thats the problem with hate.
When you hate something you become that which you hate. The coalition might not see it, but they have become the very thing they claim to hate so much about LV/BoB.
I don't have devs in my alliance giving me T2 BPO's.
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Mesuk Esuckee
Love You Long Time
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Posted - 2007.02.24 18:50:00 -
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Originally by: Zeveron
Originally by: Gnulpie
Amusing. LV made a mistake in putting the wrong amount of strontium in their tower and you blame GS for using that blunder after they noticed it?
I thought there was a bug on the timer.
If it was a stront supply error nvm.
But never the less, loging off 200 ppl in a system is a lame tactic.
Yes, this was LV's mistake, not a timer bug. And why is logging off in system a lame tactic? I can't think of a victorious military body who ever gave up a strategically advantageous geographical position to fight on the enemy's terms, especially because it might be 'lame.' It's pretty simple. Be where your opponent thinks you can't be, and surprise him when he least expects it.
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Zeveron
Generals Of Destruction Syndicate
X-PACT
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Posted - 2007.02.24 19:26:00 -
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Originally by: Mesuk Esuckee
Yes, this was LV's mistake, not a timer bug. And why is logging off in system a lame tactic? I can't think of a victorious military body who ever gave up a strategically advantageous geographical position to fight on the enemy's terms, especially because it might be 'lame.' It's pretty simple. Be where your opponent thinks you can't be, and surprise him when he least expects it.
Well logoff/login tactics considered lame, especialy when they are made in the same system.
As far as the tactic goes, well they knew exactly were u were but they couldnt engage you bcs u guys were not logged in :-)
Anyway, have fun while it lasts :-)
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IlIlIlIlI IlIlIlIlI
Hos B4 Bros
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Posted - 2007.02.24 19:41:00 -
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Edited by: IlIlIlIlI IlIlIlIlI on 24/02/2007 19:38:45
Originally by: Zeveron
Originally by: Mesuk Esuckee
Yes, this was LV's mistake, not a timer bug. And why is logging off in system a lame tactic? I can't think of a victorious military body who ever gave up a strategically advantageous geographical position to fight on the enemy's terms, especially because it might be 'lame.' It's pretty simple. Be where your opponent thinks you can't be, and surprise him when he least expects it.
Well logoff/login tactics considered lame, especialy when they are made in the same system.
As far as the tactic goes, well they knew exactly were u were but they couldnt engage you bcs u guys were not logged in :-)
Anyway, have fun while it lasts :-)
Thats about the most retarded thing I've ever heard, what if everybody logged off in the system stayed there with the exception of DT with a cloak on... It would have been the same deal, except people aren't wasting time sitting in a system waiting for something to happen.
Theoretically they could warp between safespots as well, hiding that way as well, although the defenders MIGHT have gotten lucky and picked off a few people if they weren't smart, but that would have produced an enormous amount of bookmarks in the system, which I'm sure would have helped lag, giving LV even more reason to *****.
Personally though playing hide and seek all day while waiting for Stront timers sounds boring as hell though, and if it were me I'd just as soon turn the damned computer off and do something else. If you'd rather do the "honorable" thing and waste your life staring at computer generated stars, you need professional help.
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Taison
Russian SOBR
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.24 20:11:00 -
[162]
Originally by: Zeveron
Originally by: Mesuk Esuckee
Yes, this was LV's mistake, not a timer bug. And why is logging off in system a lame tactic? I can't think of a victorious military body who ever gave up a strategically advantageous geographical position to fight on the enemy's terms, especially because it might be 'lame.' It's pretty simple. Be where your opponent thinks you can't be, and surprise him when he least expects it.
Well logoff/login tactics considered lame, especialy when they are made in the same system.
As far as the tactic goes, well they knew exactly were u were but they couldnt engage you bcs u guys were not logged in :-)
Anyway, have fun while it lasts :-)
Ehhh- u sir mess 2 things here... Logoff tactics is lame when u jump through a gate - find urself in a camp and simply logoff. But staying in the sieged system and log off rather than fly 30+ jumps back home and then back tho the besieged system is just nuts. And i guess all would agree that each well minded FC would order the people to logoff at a safespot in said system and to come back rather than spend hours on silly jumps when ur destination is that system anyway
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