running production or research out of a high sec POS allows you to avoid the Cartels like Goon but you won't compete with them on the markets.

While they don't seem to grasp the simple reality that for high sec miners it's not about cutting in to the profits of me, me, me goons, it's simply content in a game and if they keep it up those players will go find a game that actually provides real content rather than some fantasy RMT entropia, none of this really plays out with high sec POS ownership.

Actually, 0.0 production can't compete with all the highsec factory slots. Nullsec production capacity in stations is incredibly limited: we have like 10 slots available...in factory stations, which are "dedicated" to building things. We import the vast majority of things we need from highsec because (and CCP hasn't figured this out in eight years) highsec lends itself a thousand times more easily to building things than nullsec does.

You guys are confusing easier with cheaper. When you look at POS fuel costs in Sov systems for parts production, make final products in Stations and run Industry as an efficient model it's better to be a nullbear than a high sec bear. Both by way of greed and bad mechanics, null crews don't want Industrial players in thier ranks though and for that, I say tough.

[quote=RubyPorto]
You are doing it wrong.
Why are you shipping anything in? It's easier to min veld in high sec. Not better, easier. Everything you need to produce in null sec is in Null sec. You aren't exploiting it as a production tool. The only thing you need to ship in are datcores and last time I checked they can be brough in by the tens of thousands in a T2 cloaked hauler of if need be, a jump freighter.

You guys are mincing words now.
importing moon goo from High sec? Show me the high sec tech moons please.

I've lived in null, you would know that if you read my employment history. I have 4 accounts, a pure productions specialits up to and including Titans, a pure mining (ice and Ores), refining, reproc and manufaturing account, a Pure PvP account and a mixed PvP capital and PvE grinder account. Every alliance without fail found use for the PvP pitbull account and didn't give a **** about the other 3 because it meant they might have to share.

The fact is, high sec is convenient, null sec is not. Don't cry on my shoulder because you can't be bothered. As for the renters comment, that's just pure Bull **** greed through and through and goes back to what I said before. Cartel's and Mafia's.

Back to the OP: The answer is the same. Greed and high sec POS doesn't interfere with thier greed.

Actually, alliances have ship replacement programs because they don't want line members burning out from grinding up ISK to replace their ships. I don't know what worthless, failed alliances you were in, but we don't have "war taxes." Our tax rate is always 15%. Are we peacefully riding bikes? 15% tax. Are our CSAA towers on fire, core systems SBUed and reinforced? 15% tax. No CTAs, no red pen nonsense.

Jita Prices? I can't sell Titans and Carriers in Jita. Doesn't it strike you as odd that someone says they can make Titans and you think having them in your alliance is more of a threat than not having them in your alliance? That doesn't seem just plain wrong to you?

I think the answer to your question has something to do with the words 'attention span'

What rot. POS's can build **** too. Maybe YOU haven't figure THAT out in your 12 years of life.

1 x component array will take 10 jobs.
1 x equipment array can take what, 6.

But it needs MINERALS.

Might be it's just soooooooo much easier to import than get the leets to go "mining". GASP!

Cipher Jones missing the point as usual.

ahh because you can just take it down b4 a war starts duh ohh i mean derp