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Boris Ginnungagap
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.12.18 21:03:00 -
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If they really want to shake down eve, why don't they start attacking these POS's?
They can field the dps, even in highsec (unless too negative sec status), they can also fund war decs.
Or are goons really just paper tiger? |

Midori Tsu
Evolution The Initiative.
26
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Posted - 2011.12.18 21:08:00 -
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Because they don't profit from it.
Not to mention in highsec the corporation can just avoid the wardec all together making it pointless to even try.
Everything goons do, they profit from. |

Krios Ahzek
Juvenis Iratus
327
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Posted - 2011.12.18 21:26:00 -
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I don't know. This makes no sense. They really like shooting defenseless structures repeatedly for negligible amounts of tears. Look upon my posts, ye mighty, and despair. |

Dirk Magnum
Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan
101
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Posted - 2011.12.18 21:33:00 -
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POS bashing can be a fun event if it's not a regular part of your operations. If you do it all the time it leads to the sort of monotony that resulted in what was probably the longest-running complaint about nullsec ever (moreso even than afk cloakers, NAP coalitions, drone regions, and general scaling issues / opportunity deficiencies for the wee alliances.)
A concentrated campaign of high sec POS bashes would, I guarantee you, lead to at least a few cases of IRL self-harm by the participants, while the "victims" said meh and moved on. High sec POS shooting is the worst thing you can do in this game, is what I'm saying. Literally the worst. "For example, if you are thinking about selling a Republic Fleet Firetail as a regular Firetail, be sure that the market volume is high on regular Firetails and that there are plenty of buy/sell contracts for Republic Fleet Firetails. [...] The players most interested in Republic Fleet Firetails are going to be players flying regular ones."-á -- PB |

gfldex
72
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Posted - 2011.12.18 22:01:00 -
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Goons avoid anything that smells remotely like work. Merry crisis and a happy new fear! |

Potamus Jenkins
The Lucky Bible Company
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Posted - 2011.12.18 22:06:00 -
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only carebears like shooting pos' cause its 100000 x more exciting than running missions.
yet its still the single most boring "pvp" related activity in the game. |

MeestaPenni
Mercantile and Stuff
102
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Posted - 2011.12.18 22:11:00 -
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It lacks the immediate, visceral thrill of pissin' someone off. |

Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
560
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Posted - 2011.12.18 22:14:00 -
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Boris Ginnungagap wrote:If they really want to shake down eve, why don't they start attacking these POS's?
They can field the dps, even in highsec (unless too negative sec status), they can also fund war decs.
Or are goons really just paper tiger?
nice try but unless you pay them I doubt the goons will shot POS for you
now if you offer them a fee.... say a billion each, 50% up front, you might get your system cleared so you can industry in peace
but obviously you are not important enough to hire the goons
The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |

ACE McFACE
Acetech Systems
143
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Posted - 2011.12.18 22:18:00 -
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Morganta wrote:Boris Ginnungagap wrote:If they really want to shake down eve, why don't they start attacking these POS's?
They can field the dps, even in highsec (unless too negative sec status), they can also fund war decs.
Or are goons really just paper tiger? nice try but unless you pay them I doubt the goons will shot POS for you now if you offer them a fee.... say a billion each, 50% up front, you might get your system cleared so you can industry in peace but obviously you are not important enough to hire the goons Exactly, your going to need more then 22 likes Real men wear goggles and a Navy shirt! |

Skinae
Hello Kitty Hug Patrol
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Posted - 2011.12.18 23:20:00 -
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There's no tech in high sec, so what's the point. |

Bienator II
madmen of the skies
361
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Posted - 2011.12.18 23:25:00 -
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Skinae wrote:There's no tech in high sec, so what's the point. after loosing a few fleets to concord, goons decided to stop shooting highsec COs a new bounty system for eve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=359105 You fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail to jump because you are cloaked |

Doc Fury
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.12.18 23:28:00 -
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gfldex wrote:Goons avoid anything that smells remotely like work.
Not empty quotin'
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' |

Krios Ahzek
Juvenis Iratus
328
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Posted - 2011.12.18 23:35:00 -
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New answer: Because it's TOTAL WAR Look upon my posts, ye mighty, and despair. |

Krios Ahzek
Juvenis Iratus
328
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Posted - 2011.12.18 23:36:00 -
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edit:Fake forumgank Look upon my posts, ye mighty, and despair. |

Dirk Magnum
Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan
102
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Posted - 2011.12.19 00:06:00 -
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Ever hear of ****** II? Guy was really into POS bashing in Eve, and just look where it led. This post posted from the year 2015.
edit: DUST 514 for the PC is p. good though. This edit also posted from the year 2015. "For example, if you are thinking about selling a Republic Fleet Firetail as a regular Firetail, be sure that the market volume is high on regular Firetails and that there are plenty of buy/sell contracts for Republic Fleet Firetails. [...] The players most interested in Republic Fleet Firetails are going to be players flying regular ones."-á -- PB |

RAND0M MORPH
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.19 00:26:00 -
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They cant do it, they're not strong enough |

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
545
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Posted - 2011.12.19 00:41:00 -
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Quote: Why don't goons start taking down low and high sec POS's?
Call Mr Peabody and borrow his wayback machine.
See the little bees try this and fail with much laughter from the EVE general population.
They were pwned and will never make that mistake again.
Mr Epeen 
If you can read this, you haven't blocked me yet. |

Ghoest
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Posted - 2011.12.19 00:43:00 -
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Todays goons are MUCH more similar to BOB than they are to the Goons who first became famous.
But such is the history of all nomadic warrior groups. Wherever You Went - Here You Are |

Mara Tessidar
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
291
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Posted - 2011.12.19 01:15:00 -
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Hey, do you guys remember White Noise?
Yeah, we burned down their space today. All of it. Notify: You are eaten by the Whumpus
http://goo.gl/uX5vk |

Brooks Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum KUGUTSUMEN.
326
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Posted - 2011.12.19 01:21:00 -
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Its not a cemetery nor has tech. So it doesn't gain either profit nor tears. |

Mara Tessidar
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
291
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Posted - 2011.12.19 01:23:00 -
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If any of you for some reason thought that I was kidding when I said "we're burning branch down" this was one of their CSAAs about two hours ago. Notify: You are eaten by the Whumpus
http://goo.gl/uX5vk |

Krios Ahzek
Juvenis Iratus
328
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Posted - 2011.12.19 01:30:00 -
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Redefining Blitzkrieg Look upon my posts, ye mighty, and despair. |

Lord Hader
Shattered Star Exiles SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2011.12.19 01:32:00 -
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There are no technetium moons in highsec. Hence why no major nullsec PVP alliance bothers highsec POS's. |

Mirima Thurander
Sarajevo Syndicate True Reign
116
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Posted - 2011.12.19 02:36:00 -
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Goons wont shoot high sec POSs because humping a pile of old used rusty aids infected crack needles is WAY more fun than shooting High Sec POSs.
I love the the smell of victory in the morning. It smells like... Blood, vomit and burning flesh. I Like You. I'll Kill You Last. |

Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
156
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Posted - 2011.12.19 02:36:00 -
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And why won't goonies start sending me ISK?! what's the matter goonies? SCARD? |

RubyPorto
Profoundly Disturbed RED.Legion
156
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Posted - 2011.12.19 02:40:00 -
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Current mechanics mean the only way to kill a Hisec POS (owned by intelligent people) is to RF it then Suicide Gank it once it comes out of RF. Couple thousand alpha tornados per POS, sounds fun. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.12.19 02:44:00 -
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1. Why would they? There's nothing in it for them GÇö in fact, it would only devalue their ice interdiction effort. 2. Highsec POSe were recently rendered unkillable by the GM's, so :effort: 3. Too much exposure and too little action for too little (i.e no) gain. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |

Marlona Sky
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
203
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Posted - 2011.12.19 02:46:00 -
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gfldex wrote:Goons avoid anything that smells remotely like work.
Who the hell wants to pays 15 bucks a month to log in and do work??? Your statement applies to every gamer on the planet. I play games to have fun. I work to make money. Not spend money to work.
CCP needs to rethink all things that are considered grinding and change it to something that is dynamic and scales well in various situations. Above all it should be fun, not work. And before anyone replies to my statement, there is a difference between effort and work.
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Ocih
Space Mermaids
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Posted - 2011.12.19 04:00:00 -
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running production or research out of a high sec POS allows you to avoid the Cartels like Goon but you won't compete with them on the markets.
While they don't seem to grasp the simple reality that for high sec miners it's not about cutting in to the profits of me, me, me goons, it's simply content in a game and if they keep it up those players will go find a game that actually provides real content rather than some fantasy RMT entropia, none of this really plays out with high sec POS ownership. |

RubyPorto
Profoundly Disturbed RED.Legion
158
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Posted - 2011.12.19 04:03:00 -
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Ocih wrote:running production or research out of a high sec POS allows you to avoid the Cartels like Goon but you won't compete with them on the markets.
While they don't seem to grasp the simple reality that for high sec miners it's not about cutting in to the profits of me, me, me goons, it's simply content in a game and if they keep it up those players will go find a game that actually provides real content rather than some fantasy RMT entropia, none of this really plays out with high sec POS ownership.
They own a good chunk of Tech moons. If you're building T2, you're paying them.
If you're manufacturing T1 at a POS for profit, well.... Ok. |
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