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Aucturis Arbosa
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2016.05.14 12:01:03 -
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If I get at least one....that will make me feel a tad better. |
Aucturis Arbosa
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2016.05.14 12:07:29 -
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Black Pedro wrote:Aucturis Arbosa wrote:For the main reason ISK...because I want to buy stuff! But I've got my skills up to pilot an ORCA, so that's my main goal for now is to purchase and insure one of those bad boys... Why? I am not telling you how to play the game, but an Orca is a mining support ship/mini-freighter. Unless you have many accounts it is useless for mining, and only marginally useful for hauling things. If you want to fly an Orca you should at least find a group of other players, if not join a corp that you can use the Orca together to improve your mining yield. I was thinking not really mining, but hauling stuff.....lots of stuff to sell. Just another way to make money I suppose? Aucturis Arbosa wrote:Working on my carrier skills now. That's my next goal. I guess after all that I'll try to join a corp. Its a cool open sandbox game and I know there are other players out there, but sometimes I'd rather just fly SOLO (pun intended). You can always fly solo, even in most corps. Just find a more laid back one that doesn't mind you doing you own thing much of the time but yet you will have some support and help accomplishing your goals. There is no reason to avoid joining a corp until you reach some arbitrary milestone. You will not be able to routinely fly a carrier by yourself. At a minimum you will need multiple accounts, but in reality you will want a group to belong to to help protect and make use of that ship. Both your goals really require you to look towards finding a corp that will fit with your playstyle. Make that a priority because if you are just avoiding it because you don't feel ready, I am telling you that you will never feel ready. The most efficient way to learn the game is to join a (good) group an benefit from their knowledge and direct support. The worst that can happen is the corp sucks and you quit. You will be no worse off than you are today.
Just like the idea of a carrier. I've played lots of naval games over the years, not to mention actually being on two of them in the real world. Thanks for all your input. I know I'm not the most stellar of players (according to some of these posts comments), but I appreciate the patience. |
Aucturis Arbosa
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2016.05.14 12:10:19 -
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Terra Universum wrote:People of the forums... Realize that a lot of people play Eve for other reasons than the actual game play.
Do you think people mine in high sec because the isk is good? Please... They mine there because mining is a very relaxing actvivity and just chilling in space with the great visuals of the mining lasers.
Like someone once said, mining is the BEST screen saver ever.
You have OP here, just wants to mine and relax and just CHILL. Make concord respond faster, because Ops style of gameplay is not really about crappy hi sec isk, it's about the experience of being in an asteroid belt with the beautiful visuals and simply enjoying eve.
EDIT: Remember the days when you could hide the UI and just mine? Yeah, you cant do that anymore. There are plenty of activities that require attention and detail, mining isn't one of them. Let it remain what is always was... Relaxing... Chill....
Someone who gets it! Thank you!
Just wanting to chill out and play it safe...for now. BUT it is a HARSH universe. |
Aucturis Arbosa
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2016.05.14 12:12:19 -
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Shiloh Templeton wrote:OP: Suggestions #1: All you have to do is use a tanked Procurer or Skiff when you are going to AFK mine as mentioned above. Semi-AFK is the only way I ever mined and I was never ganked. I use to casually mine with my Procurer in an Ice belt while Code was ganking a retriever. One time in an ore belt I came back to find two catalysts wrecks laying beside my Procurer. The only time I ran for safety is when Loyalanon came by with his 10 man crew - it was impressive to witness the skill & precision they operated with. Suggestion #2: Embrace the idea that ganking is actually good for the Eve eco-system. The cat and mouse makes game play much more interesting & exploding ships helps create the demand that industrialists supply (you included with the ore price). P.S. I loved mining with a Orca support. The leadership skills are maybe not worth it, but I later moved the character into a strategic cruiser booster and then a command ship - so it's not necessarily wasted training time. Plus an Orca is very useful for relocating or hauling. P.P.S. Look into mining missions if you really want to maximize AFK. Thanks for the advice! 
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Aucturis Arbosa
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2016.05.14 12:13:51 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Aucturis Arbosa wrote:So I've been away from the game for over a year. Just got back into it and I've been TRYING to mine to build up some money. Unfortunately I've discovered the new "Hotness" in EVE....Asteroid Squatting. When did it become fashionable to absolutely gank a lowly mining rig...in Hi Sec areas and then scream at you for not paying for a mining contract?  I mean seriously, is this the new "friendly" EVE way of playing? Getting prison gang raped by morons until you either join their prison gang or pay a stupid contract fee and still get blasted by these Heathens? What the hell are you supposed to do to make money? Is AFK mining in HI SEC a relic of the past? I've lost 3 rigs in the last week and I haven't even played that many hours to be honest. Seems like every other time I sign on and try to mine I get podded....I'm starting to think I made a big mistake coming back. Time to look for new game I suppose? You were not told about the ganking mini-game apparently. CCP was a little short in resources so they asked the players for help. It was the best we could come up with.
Sad face.... |
Yang Aurilen
The Mjolnir Bloc
The Bloc
1199
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Posted - 2016.05.14 12:37:04 -
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Aucturis Arbosa wrote:RabbitX wrote:Anyone found purchasing a permit will be ganked on site. I will never purchase.....RESISTANCE!
That's what she said!
Post with your NPC alt main and not your main main alt!
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Davian Thule Pirkibo
Absolute Massive Destruction
Test Alliance Please Ignore
38
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Posted - 2016.05.14 13:11:29 -
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Just lol, I can't honestly tell if this is a troll post or not, anyway op fly a procurer and you very rarely will have to worry about getting ganked, I speak as a former -10 sec status ganker . |
Ka Plaa
Raumfahrer Spiff Rakett Piloot Anslutning
234
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Posted - 2016.05.14 15:11:02 -
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Davian Thule Pirkibo wrote:Just lol, I can't honestly tell if this is a troll post or not...
Me niether - but it's entertaining either way...so...+1 :D
"The Crowd Is Untruth" - Kierkegaard
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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Second-Dawn
1583
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Posted - 2016.05.14 15:22:47 -
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Go with the Procurer and train into a Skiff and use the fits I put in earlier and you will be golden. Then you can enjoy chilling out in the belts while gankers moan in frustration at their inability to up their game, even better you can send out shield rep drones ecm drones to annoy the hell out of them saving other miners. And if you really want to get stuck into frustrating them join the Anti-Ganking channel and speak to like minded people. But I will warn you, they will tell you that the Retreiver fit you had was bad, very bad.
Take this loss and the advice given as a learning exercise and up your game, I for one wish you well, if you need any advice or help just drop me a line.
Ella's Snack bar. The Hisec sandbox is basically no longer a themepark for gankers now that CCP have rebalanced key areas. Well done CCP
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Yoshitaka Moromuo
Distant Light Galactic
25
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Posted - 2016.05.14 18:15:01 -
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Dracvlad wrote:Go with the Procurer and train into a Skiff and use the fits I put in earlier and you will be golden. Then you can enjoy chilling out in the belts while gankers moan in frustration at their inability to up their game, even better you can send out shield rep drones ecm drones to annoy the hell out of them saving other miners. And if you really want to get stuck into frustrating them join the Anti-Ganking channel and speak to like minded people. But I will warn you, they will tell you that the Retreiver fit you had was bad, very bad.
Take this loss and the advice given as a learning exercise and up your game, I for one wish you well, if you need any advice or help just drop me a line. To build from this a slight bit:
- If you must fit yield (Retriever/Covetor or Hulk), absolutely mark known gankers as a low-standing contact and pre-align to your station. When gankers or suspicious unknowns join Local, hit Dock and get safe.
- Procurers are the greatest if you're mining by yourself and are just taking it easy. They have the ability to fit a tank that nearly equates them to a strategic cruiser or slightly higher, and will still get decent - if not the best - yield. A good Procurer fit can be transferred to a Skiff, and even expanded slightly further.
- If you're going out for small amounts, the expedition frigates (Prospect and Endurance) are a solid bet. Both can be tanked fairly well, have respectable per-cycle yield, and as they are frigates, they can get to safety quicker than a barge. The Prospect can even fit a covert-ops cloak, allowing you to get in and out completely under cloak. The ore holds are also comparable to Procurers and Skiffs, with the Prospect reaching 10,000 cubic meters, and the Endurance (as it was designed for ice harvesting) holding 15,000.
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Nadja Hawk
Mayhem Minions
13
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Posted - 2016.05.14 18:22:24 -
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Aucturis Arbosa wrote:So I've been away from the game for over a year. Just got back into it and I've been TRYING to mine to build up some money. Unfortunately I've discovered the new "Hotness" in EVE....Asteroid Squatting. When did it become fashionable to absolutely gank a lowly mining rig...in Hi Sec areas and then scream at you for not paying for a mining contract? I mean seriously, is this the new "friendly" EVE way of playing? Getting prison gang raped by morons until you either join their prison gang or pay a stupid contract fee and still get blasted by these Heathens? What the hell are you supposed to do to make money? Is AFK mining in HI SEC a relic of the past? I've lost 3 rigs in the last week and I haven't even played that many hours to be honest. Seems like every other time I sign on and try to mine I get podded....I'm starting to think I made a big mistake coming back. Time to look for new game I suppose?
this started well over a year ago |
Jenn aSide
Shinigami Miners
Test Alliance Please Ignore
14106
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Posted - 2016.05.15 00:23:15 -
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This thread is a perfect contrast between players related by profession. High sec miner experiences other players, comes to forum, whines.
Null Sec mining Corp (look at my corp name) has same experience....but way different outcome.
Conclusion = High sec is {insert deadly disease here}. |
Aucturis Arbosa
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
6
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Posted - 2016.05.15 00:24:07 -
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Davian Thule Pirkibo wrote:Just lol, I can't honestly tell if this is a troll post or not, anyway op fly a procurer and you very rarely will have to worry about getting ganked, I speak as a former -10 sec status ganker .
Nope...this is a real post. I'm that bad. But point taken on the Procurer. I will be working on that ASAP. |
Aucturis Arbosa
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
6
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Posted - 2016.05.15 00:26:10 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:This thread is a perfect contrast between players related by profession. High sec miner experiences other players, comes to forum, whines. Null Sec mining Corp (look at my corp name) has same experience.... but way different outcome. Conclusion = High sec is {insert deadly disease here}.
LOL....Nice |
Aucturis Arbosa
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
6
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Posted - 2016.05.15 00:27:06 -
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Dracvlad wrote:Go with the Procurer and train into a Skiff and use the fits I put in earlier and you will be golden. Then you can enjoy chilling out in the belts while gankers moan in frustration at their inability to up their game, even better you can send out shield rep drones ecm drones to annoy the hell out of them saving other miners. And if you really want to get stuck into frustrating them join the Anti-Ganking channel and speak to like minded people. But I will warn you, they will tell you that the Retreiver fit you had was bad, very bad.
Take this loss and the advice given as a learning exercise and up your game, I for one wish you well, if you need any advice or help just drop me a line.
Roger Wilco...Thanks for the advice. I didn't even realize about the shield drones and ecm saving others...that's rich. |
Gobblock
Void Protectorate
Federal United Battalion of Armed Renegades
0
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Posted - 2016.05.15 01:15:27 -
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You could find a quieter system to mine in also that CODE doesn't visit as often (they are out there).
Aucturis Arbosa wrote:Captain Stupid wrote:He could always buy a permit  Well I COULD, but I've been told and have seen people get blasted even when they had one.....so I'd rather just not.
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Erin Oswell
Star Explorers
Reckoning Star Alliance
35
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Posted - 2016.05.15 01:22:39 -
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Also if you want to stay in HS mining, try going to quieter dead end systems to mine. Ideally in 0.7-0.5 systems you will find better minerals to mine there and you might not be bothered so much. Also look for omber sites under anomalies via your scanner along the way, you will likely need specific lasers to mine these materials though but they'll be a bit more valuable and again, something lazy miners and gankers might not bother checking on if they have anoms unchecked.
Personally I never had that problem with gankers in belts, but then I haven't mined since I was a newbro, namely because it's incredibly dull.
Rules of Acquisition #13: "Anything worth doing is worth doing for money"
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Scruffled
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
20
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Posted - 2016.05.15 01:30:59 -
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This thread was a wildly entertaining work read. |
Vol Arm'OOO
Central Co-Prosperity Union
811
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Posted - 2016.05.15 02:34:14 -
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Aucturis Arbosa wrote:Yang Aurilen wrote:Let's see:
- AFK Mining in a retrieve-
- Not docking up while afk
- Fitting your retriever like that(poor thing was begging for a quick death)
- Not using dscan to gtfo when those cats start showing up
You deserved what you got. That's like saying "I'm gonna afk in Street Fighter without pausing the game" and then coming back to see your Ryu KO'd and wondering why the game is bad. Hey Mr. "I'm better then you" I'm not looking for Trolls....I'm looking for solutions. Sorry I can't spend the 20+hrs a week like you to figure this game out. Solutions or shut the Hell up
People gank miners because it is fun. In particular, its fun ganking folk that dont want to be ganked. Its part of playing in an open world pvp game. Its easy not to be ganked while mining. 1) fly a procurer or a skiff. 2) tank your ship. 3) fly in an out of the way system. Ganking is a relatively rare event. While it does happen, it is possible to go your entire eve career without being ganked. Hell, in the entire time i have been playing eve (5 or 6 years now i think), I have only been ganked once - a tempest and a frig jumped hulk in a .6 system, but because I always tank - the tempest killed it self - I came back from the bathroom to find that I had two very funny lol mails.
I don't play, I just fourm warrior.
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Sustrai Aditua
Irubo Kovu
203
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Posted - 2016.05.15 03:28:04 -
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Milan Nantucket wrote:Aucturis Arbosa wrote:Mark O'Helm wrote:-don't mine afk
-set Code. to red contacts
- fly a procurer Sometimes I GOT to do my laundry....perfect time for AFK mining.... So how in the Hell do I set Code? Don't even know what that means honestly. I was using a Retriever for Hi Sec and the lowly Venture for Hi Sec....since that seems to be more profitable for less ore...and time in the "Hot Zone" 1) First read about the Law Of Highsec from here: http://www.lawofhighsec.com/the-law
2) Then find yourself a code agent and purchasing a Mining Permit and follow his or her instructions for display it because Permit Tank is best tank. 3) Follow the Law Of Highsec for example dock up when you GOT to do your laundry. 4) Read http://www.minerbumping.com/ and don't be a goofus. Oh, wait...I found it....
MY MINING PERMIT!!
(right click "open link in new tab" - the forum treats links strangely these days)
If we get chased by zombies, I'm tripping you.
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Aaron Honk
Distributed Denial of Service
112
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Posted - 2016.05.15 05:46:44 -
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How to get a mining permit :
1/ Find someone who bought one
2/ Copy his bio into your bio
3/ ???
4/ Profit |
Chopper Rollins
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
1349
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Posted - 2016.05.15 05:50:17 -
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CODE guy starts RP thread using throwaway "lolmining" toon.
Everybody has advice.
Again.
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good.
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Solonius Rex
F0RCED ENTRY
275
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Posted - 2016.05.15 08:13:32 -
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Aucturis Arbosa wrote:Sustrai Aditua wrote:Don't let the tough boy responses fool you. Ganking miners as a sole activity for the unimaginative, and low achievers has become a mainstay - and I daresay, the most active activity in EVE now.
I suggest miners stop mining. Let the shelves run out of goods. No. Wait. The "large alliances" with a lock on thing$ will just keep mining and funding (it's CODE for...meh, who cares?)
Become a miner ganker yourself perhaps? It may be more challenging to watch them unload produce at the local Publix. What I'm thinking about is taking my Typhoon out to where I got ganked....cloak and wait for those 2 a-holes to show back up in their frigates....
Dont take your typhoon out. Thats stupid.
a) decloaking has a targetting penalty. By the time you lock on to them, they will have already finished the gank.
b) They already expect to lose the ships. You are literally doing nothing.
c) typhoons are stupid choices for ganking frigs. Best go with a tornado, cheaper, and much better.
Bad ideas all around. |
Fal Dara
Rapid Withdrawal
129
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Posted - 2016.05.15 08:17:25 -
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to the OP
I am sure there has been plenty of advice to help you already, with fits, and choosing a tankier ship. Do those if you please. They work.
Other options, 'out of the box' ... lvl 1 combat missions. Do them, several of them have HUGE amounts of ore in them, some of them even have nulsec ores. Find these missions, do them, mine them--chances are, most gankers are going to be too lazy to probe you out and find you in HS. If they do, the mission area gives you some protection/time to escape.
Train to use a Prospect (t2 mining frig). Fit for mining, and using a small shield booster/AB, it can mine in low sec. Find some relatively empty low sec, and mine there. Learn your d-scan tool, and keep an eye on local. I can mine for an hour in one of these even in heavily trafficked areas of low sec. The Prospect, with the right mining lasers, mines as much as a retriever. Seriously. The prospect can tank low sec rats just fine, with a small shield booster, and an active afterburner while it orbits.
You could even use a prospect to mine in high sec, and use some high speed orbiting to discourage ganks (they cant really hit ya too well, when you're moving 4kms). This likley wont be the best option.
There. some different ideas. |
Solonius Rex
F0RCED ENTRY
275
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Posted - 2016.05.15 08:19:32 -
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Aucturis Arbosa wrote:Black Pedro wrote:[quote=Aucturis Arbosa]More lucrative professions with low bars to entry include exploration, PI (although I would look to lowsec) which is pretty passive once you get it set up, or even wormhole gas mining. Gas miners are dirt cheap (although the skill book is not) and while you will get close to 100M ISK/hour if you can ninja high end sites, your overall income will be lower given the time overhead of scanning down wormhole chains.
You never said why you want to make ISK but if it for PvP you might just want to just jump into Faction Warfare. The plexes and eventually missions pay very well. Similarly if you have the skills sleeper combat sites in the low class wormholes you can easily access from highsec are lucrative and relatively quick and safe. For the main reason ISK...because I want to buy stuff! But I've got my skills up to pilot an ORCA, so that's my main goal for now is to purchase and insure one of those bad boys...Working on my carrier skills now. That's my next goal. I guess after all that I'll try to join a corp. Its a cool open sandbox game and I know there are other players out there, but sometimes I'd rather just fly SOLO (pun intended).
You cant use carriers in hisec, and you need a good low/nullsec corp to utilize your carrier well. Orcas are also a waste of time since you will most likely be using them in hisec, which means youve got a conflict of interest in terms of what you want to do.
Neither of your dreams work as a solo player. My suggestion is to first find a decent corp, and THEN think about what you want to do. |
Solonius Rex
F0RCED ENTRY
275
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Posted - 2016.05.15 08:22:53 -
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Gurista Nerfed wrote:Everybody ganks, or tries to. Everybody wardec griefs. Everybody talks **** in local. The game is out of control.
About the permit thing, that's just a silly thing that you can safely tell them to stuff where the sun don't shine.
Ganking has always existed. Wardecs have always existed. People have always talked **** in local. This is how the game is intended to work, and its all under control.
Sounds like youre angry about being ganked. |
000Hunter000
Missiles 'R' Us
61
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Posted - 2016.05.15 10:04:44 -
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Please note these 5 simple steps while attempting to mine:
1. Don't mine afk
2. keep alert (aka don't mine afk)
3. align with the nearest station (aka don't mine afk)
4. ??? (aka don't mine afk)
5. Profit (chance of u have done the first 4 steps and didn't mine afk)
Oh, and don't pay for a permit, cuz thats just silly |
Kiddoomer
Deep Space Exploitation
Federal United Battalion of Armed Renegades
114
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Posted - 2016.05.15 11:24:49 -
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Doesn't seem to really want advices, poorly mined afk and doesnt want to stop it, 5 pages already ...
Yup, that's it.
We're recruiting !
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Morgan Agrivar
Peace.Keepers
324
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Posted - 2016.05.15 23:24:27 -
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I don't know. If I was mining, I would dream of some gankers coming to release me from my hellish nightmare. I bought the mining permit to support CODE and what they do for highsec.
They need to make mining more engaging to prevent 'afkism', which is a debilitating disease of your mouse and keyboard.
This would cure me of the fear...
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Dr GotYourDaisy
State War Academy
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2016.05.16 00:12:17 -
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They may not have the guns to fight back, but they fuel the production lines.... You're telling me that they are not capable of coming together and raising the prices of the ships being used against them to make it non-profitable for the gankers?
"But we are a small corp, no sp's, no fighting skills etc etc", so what? Are you not capable of trying to network out to larger corps and making alliances?
Sounds more like this new breed of miner's would like everything handed to them. instead of facing their tribulations of initiation into this world we all call Eve.
Quit being small minded, and think BIG.
"But But Dr. that's not how I want to play the game", "I want to play the game this way". GO AHEAD, but remember no one promised you that if you play the game your way you'll become a great success. Success comes from adapting, evolving, and finding a way to fill a niche so quite being a _____. |
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