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Count TaSessine
ISS Navy Task Force
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.02.26 12:36:00 -
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The details of the operations are still hazy, but preliminary reports indicate that a fleet composed of elements from ISS, counting at least White Nova and OPGC corporations, along with a number of Lotka Volterra ships, re-captured the station after the temporary lapse in sovereignty which occurred yesterday.
Syndicate Fleet Command extends its gratitude to the Syndicate pilots who have performed above and beyond the call of duty on this day.
The Syndicate has been fighting continuously on several fronts since December 9th when the former publically owned stations in Catch were suddenly attacked by longtime neighbours IAC. The Syndicate responded in kind, but was overwhelmed by a coalition of alliances from north to south in what was to be the prelude to the New Eden War. All public station were lost, except the Providence stations, which have now been sold.
The dynamics of the prelude to the New Eden War pushed the Syndicate into the camp of Lotka Volterra and BoB, alongside whom we are now fighting.
The fight has been long and the price high, but the new Syndicate that will emerge from this war will be hardened. The same visionary hearts and minds, but with gloves of steel.
The war is not over yet.
Chairman, ISS
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Dekiri
Exanimo Inc
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.02.26 12:38:00 -
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Guess that gives you a couple of days longer with that station.
I thought stations don't matter anymore?=)
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Ritchler
Gallente
BOOM - Gotcha
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Posted - 2007.02.26 12:41:00 -
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GG ISS
Seriously tho, best of luck, IAC are scum for turning on you and for allying with -AAA-, so give em hell and get back your stations
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Phoenicia
Macabre Votum
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2007.02.26 12:41:00 -
[4]
 Originally by: Count TaSessine
The fight has been long and the price high, but the new Syndicate that will emerge from this war will be hardened.
"Is that a POS tower in your pocket or are you just hardened to see me?" 
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Zarthax Mandatori
Gallente
Insidious Existence
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.26 12:53:00 -
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Grats on the takeover :)
Enjoy it while you can, as i don't believe it will be a long-term luxury for you guys 
I was part of the fleet that brought the station into the hands of KOS, and i must admit, the fights were awesome, well executed and respectfully fought.
I have outmost respect for you guys, and i hope we will enjoy alot of hours together while having pew pew'ing :)
(KOS takeover have been partialy frapped, and will be released soon)
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Malachon Draco
eXceed Inc.
INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.02.26 13:03:00 -
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Aside from the station ping pong that seems to have happened, is there anyone who can say anything about the POS situation. I.e., who has how many deathstars in system, and who is killing whose POS (if any POS killing is taking place)?
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RichThugster
Gallente
0riginal Pirate Material
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Posted - 2007.02.26 13:22:00 -
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Originally by: Count TaSessine
The Syndicate has been fighting continuously on several fronts since December 9th when the former publically owned stations in Catch were suddenly attacked by longtime neighbours IAC. The Syndicate responded in kind, but was overwhelmed by a coalition of alliances from north to south in what was to be the prelude to the New Eden War.
i have a few 'if's that i consider when i think about the above statement.
Indeed IAC started aggression against the ISS. However (yes it has been argued) IAC didnt start POS/BLOB aggression. ISS hired MC, and most probably asked LV to come and help them push IAC out of their space, and begin a siege upon IAC soverign space. Would the forces of REDSWARM and TCF worked with IAC, if ISS hadnt initiated the gangbang that happened to IAC? if they hadnt maybe ISS and IAC would be sat happily pew pewing eachother in reasonably equal fights?
as to AAA's involvent, they would be still in old AXE space fighting whoever was near, they would not have ended up chasing MC away from IAC space, which lead to IAC's allies pushing ISS back out of their systems and into KDF and ZXIC.
IF LV hadnt got involved, would they have been able to keep RAGOON back long enough to have protect JV1V through to the titan completion? IF LV still faired well against RAGOON, would BOB have came over to help rather than turning to face D2 which MC had spent a few weeks softening up?
Perhaps back when IAC was getting gangbanged by 400 ppl in their space including 2 motherships, a titan and probably well over 50 capitals, some may have said they brought it upon themselves, however by inviting those 400 ppl to help ISS, did ISS bring it upon themselves?
i love If statements, if only there was a way to test those theories.
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Tannach
The Littlest Hobos
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Posted - 2007.02.26 13:40:00 -
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Edited by: Tannach on 26/02/2007 13:36:34
Congratulations to ISS, it seems the fights down there have been hard on both sides and its very nice to see things civil on these forums.
The IAC vs ISS was obviously a prelude to something that had been in the workings for a while, and both elements of a much larger plan. Now only 3 months later, the south is on fire with nearly every major player involved in one way or the other (insert some random quote about every fire starting with a spark).
-Tan (edited because i can't spell)
Originally by: "James Lyrus"
If the army started trying to storm tescos, you can bet they'd be throwing bagels at them.
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Plutoinum
German Cyberdome Corp
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.02.26 13:44:00 -
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Edited by: Plutoinum on 26/02/2007 13:42:44
Originally by: RichThugster
Would the forces of REDSWARM and TCF worked with IAC, if ISS hadnt initiated the gangbang that happened to IAC?
RAGoon and IAC have already been friends and IAC been flying against -V- and LV in Scalding Pass.
If you have heard remedials teamspeak speach some months ago, they wanted IAC to be part of their mutual defense pact that included RA, Goonswarm, TCF and maybe Imperium. Not sure.
There was even mentioned that Goonfleet was aiming to get a better relation to D2 with RA as a middle man, RA and the north were friendly to eachother.
The train was already leaving the station, before ISS and IAC went to war. Ok, maybe the war convinced IAC to go fully on the RAGoon side, if they were undecided before.
Besides that grats to retaking the station of course.
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DeckardIRL
Bravehearts
Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.26 13:44:00 -
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Edited by: DeckardIRL on 26/02/2007 13:42:17
The past is now the past.
Congrats on your first recapture. One station at a time.
Deck
PS Saw some Reds in Vale of the Silent last night.... bit far North I thought.
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n sx
The Tidemark
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.26 13:47:00 -
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Originally by: Count TaSessine
The Syndicate has been fighting continuously on several fronts since December 9th when the former publically owned stations in Catch were suddenly attacked by longtime neighbours IAC. The Syndicate responded in kind, but was overwhelmed by a coalition of alliances from north to south in what was to be the prelude to the New Eden War. All public station were lost, except the Providence stations, which have now been sold.
Hey Count .... welcome back to the COAD, it's your first post since your last outcry of lies and the Butter gate incident. I take it you're hoping the EVE community had forgotten about your tall stories and public shame.
To sum up, there's nothing like an informative post, followed by Count T's special flavour of waffle propoganda.
To Count T, get off your horse.
To ISS's pilots and their allies in C3-, good fights and it has been a smackfree blast. You also know as well as we do it's not over and we're looking forward to the continuation!  Congrats on the take back.
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Kaylana Syi
The Nest
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.26 14:03:00 -
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/me puts OP through Count TasSessine truth filter
Begin Translation:::::::
While KOS and IAC were asleep or at work... ISS retook the station. However, last night we lost 2 POS and KOS put up two more large towers effectivly giving them the majority of moons. ISS has lost C3- in 5 days. My corporations underneath me have shown the class that ISS once stood for and despite the situation I put them in they refuse to follow the example I have displayed and continue to fight.
I've saved face on the Providence outposts before IAC could take them by selling them. Everything we do now is for appearence and free-ish pewpew, hey we mostly only use t1 gear and our ships have insurance. Thus, this entire operation is a training operation to battle harden our troops. Oh, and I hope noone sees that we've stolen The Syndicate [TSYND] name for ourselves.
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Team Minmatar
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Lilan Kahn
Amarr
The Littlest Hobos
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Posted - 2007.02.26 14:10:00 -
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Originally by: Kaylana Syi
Hi we are bitter american players that hate europeans for haveing difrent times, we like to chest beat abut how much iss is outnumbered when they are all sleeping
fixed it for you.
Originally by: Eris Discordia
We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
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Amith Silvermoon
The Littlest Hobos
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Posted - 2007.02.26 14:12:00 -
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Gratz guys keep on fighting
i wont reply to the IAC spin doctors
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Kaylana Syi
The Nest
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.26 14:14:00 -
[15]
Originally by: Lilan Kahn
Originally by: Kaylana Syi
Hi we are bitter american players that hate europeans for haveing difrent times, we like to chest beat abut how much iss is outnumbered when they are all sleeping
fixed it for you.
Sorry but most of our alliance is EURO, Russian and Australian ^^
Team Minmatar
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Fear Not
Veni Vidi Dormivi
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Posted - 2007.02.26 14:14:00 -
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Shame on 'n sx' and 'Kaylana Syi'. 
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Tryptic Photon
Gallente
Asgard Protectorate
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.02.26 14:16:00 -
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That was fun, looking forward to the repercussions.  GF all!
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Tannach
The Littlest Hobos
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Posted - 2007.02.26 14:17:00 -
[18]
Originally by: n sx
Blah
Originally by: Kaylana Syi
Blah
Wow and you are the IAC diplomats? Every other response from IAC has been friendly, and you both come and spout drivel. IAC have achieved alot in the last couple of months, and yet you still feel the need to decend into smack.
-Tan
Originally by: "James Lyrus"
If the army started trying to storm tescos, you can bet they'd be throwing bagels at them.
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Lilan Kahn
Amarr
The Littlest Hobos
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Posted - 2007.02.26 14:18:00 -
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Originally by: Kaylana Syi
Originally by: Lilan Kahn
Originally by: Kaylana Syi
Hi we are bitter american players that hate europeans for haveing difrent times, we like to chest beat abut how much iss is outnumbered when they are all sleeping
fixed it for you.
Sorry but most of our alliance is EURO, Russian and Australian ^^
See now this is odd when we had our rumbels your space woud fill up at around 2200ish eve time, iss space woud fill up with iss around 1400ish.
2200ish to me surgest tons of american based time zoners or aussies i dont care witch realy.
There for i conclud i am right your wrong.
Homless i may be.
Armed i am.
Come get me.
Originally by: Eris Discordia
We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
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Count TaSessine
ISS Navy Task Force
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.02.26 14:21:00 -
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Edited by: Count TaSessine on 26/02/2007 14:18:00
Originally by: n sx
Hey Count .... welcome back to the COAD, it's your first post since your last outcry of lies and the Butter gate incident. I take it you're hoping the EVE community had forgotten about your tall stories and public shame.
To sum up, there's nothing like an informative post, followed by Count T's special flavour of waffle propoganda.
To Count T, get off your horse.
Hi n sx
Yes, I'm still on my horse and I see you're still riding that little pony of yours.
Chairman, ISS
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Silvestri
FIRMA
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.26 14:21:00 -
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I'm American...east coast...and it sucks...All the ops take off way before I get home from work...I complain, they get mad...lol. I make it on weekends though. 
Side note, I really haven't played much with the C3 fight because I never have time to make the fleets that go up. So yeah..mainly euro based....
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Gutsani
Uninvited Inc.
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Posted - 2007.02.26 14:21:00 -
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Edited by: Gutsani on 26/02/2007 14:20:12
Originally by: Kaylana Syi
Oh, and I hope noone sees that we've stolen The Syndicate [TSYND] name for ourselves.
Maybe not all you said is true, but i noticed this also and i found it quite irritating.
I was like "Isnt The Syndicate in Invictus? Why would they be helping ISS? <reads on> Oh, he means ISS .. since they no longer have starbases"
Well .. i'm not involved in this stuff, and i have no "bad feelings" or any other **** towards ISS (they are awesome miners/producers/targets ). So, good luck to both sides?
Originally by: Lilan Kahn
See now this is odd when we had our rumbels your space woud fill up at around 2200ish eve time, iss space woud fill up with iss around 1400ish.
14 ish eve time, is 15 hours in belgium (right now ..). I'm usually at university at that time, and i think most people are at work. 14 hours .. sounds to me like asian/australian timezone tbh.
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n sx
The Tidemark
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.26 14:25:00 -
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Originally by: Count TaSessine
Hi n sx
Yes, I'm still on my horse and I see you're still riding that little pony of yours.
Weclome back. Let's dance.
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Lilan Kahn
Amarr
The Littlest Hobos
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Posted - 2007.02.26 14:30:00 -
[24]
Originally by: Gutsani
Originally by: Lilan Kahn
See now this is odd when we had our rumbels your space woud fill up at around 2200ish eve time, iss space woud fill up with iss around 1400ish.
14 ish eve time, is 15 hours in belgium (right now ..). I'm usually at university at that time, and i think most people are at work. 14 hours .. sounds to me like asian/australian timezone tbh.
i work craftmans hours and call duty i am cet and i am some times home around dt, deppends on what your working with 
alot of euro's also play from work while monitoring servers ect
Originally by: Eris Discordia
We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
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Raid
Caldari
Tyrell Corp
INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2007.02.26 14:35:00 -
[25]
Originally by: Count TaSessine
Hi n sx
Yes, I'm still on my horse and I see you're still riding that little pony of yours.
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Jake Noble
Amarr
Federation of Freedom Fighters
Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2007.02.26 14:39:00 -
[26]
Originally by: Zarthax Mandatori
(KOS takeover have been partialy frapped, and will be released soon)
Dont want to stop you in your tracks but I honestly couldnt possibly witness anything more boring than some people shooting at a station and then a little box saying its changed hands... Not worth the CPU for frapsing lol.
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Kaylana Syi
The Nest
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.26 14:40:00 -
[27]
Originally by: Tannach
Originally by: n sx
Blah
Originally by: Kaylana Syi
Blah
Wow and you are the IAC diplomats? Every other response from IAC has been friendly, and you both come and spout drivel. IAC have achieved alot in the last couple of months, and yet you still feel the need to decend into smack.
-Tan
Smack? I call it truth that hurts. Their might just be a reason why IAC leaders won't give an inch to Count T 
Team Minmatar
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Lilan Kahn
Amarr
The Littlest Hobos
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Posted - 2007.02.26 14:42:00 -
[28]
Originally by: Kaylana Syi
Originally by: Tannach
Originally by: n sx
Blah
Originally by: Kaylana Syi
Blah
Wow and you are the IAC diplomats? Every other response from IAC has been friendly, and you both come and spout drivel. IAC have achieved alot in the last couple of months, and yet you still feel the need to decend into smack.
-Tan
Smack? I call it truth that hurts. Their might just be a reason why IAC leaders won't give an inch to Count T
i smell some thing bad here.
dont worry iac we wil be back for you soonÖ
Originally by: Eris Discordia
We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
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DALE0404
Blue Star Brotherhood
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.02.26 14:44:00 -
[29]
Originally by: Count TaSessine
The war is not over yet.
Not by a Long Shot!!
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Davik Kurchek
The Littlest Hobos
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Posted - 2007.02.26 14:46:00 -
[30]
Oh the irony.
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Tannach
The Littlest Hobos
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Posted - 2007.02.26 14:46:00 -
[31]
Originally by: Kaylana Syi
Smack? I call it truth that hurts. Their might just be a reason why IAC leaders won't give an inch to Count T
I don't argue with that (whatever it may be), it's just the way you go about saying it. Anyway, no more from me (best left to the diplomats :p)
-Tan
Originally by: "James Lyrus"
If the army started trying to storm tescos, you can bet they'd be throwing bagels at them.
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Vando
Umbra Congregatio
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.26 14:46:00 -
[32]
Count T, famous for being one of the only people in Eve foolish enough to lie to Evil Thug
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Tequilapepper
Amarr
Xoth Inc
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.02.26 14:50:00 -
[33]
Well I am just amazed on the IAC posts in here. You show the usual class and respect for your enemies, and I am glad you finally decided to stop with smacking and trolling.
We are happy you found finally your allies, after several attempts (AXE was one, during first prohibition campaing, they helped you to keep your stations but during the second prohibition you decided that -A- was a better deal as a partner while they were attacking your previous ally, AXE. I am sure AXE appreciated your gratitude)
If you hear my suggestion, try to be more costructive with your post. If is close to retake back the station, just wait for it and make a post about that. Smack is useless, is just the voicing of someone who have no better arguments to convince himself and other fellows of his points. But ofc this will convince day by day loads of more entities that after all if you are the bright side and we are the evil, between the Right and the Wrong a man have to choose the lesser threat.
*STANDARD DISCLAIMER* I am not talking on behalf of FIX.
Respectfully
Tequilapepper
FIX Grunt
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Thoric Frosthammer
The Syndicate Inc
INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.02.26 14:51:00 -
[34]
Wait, those lamers stole our name?
Hmm, this may require pew pew.
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The Assyrian
Mound of Severed Heads
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Posted - 2007.02.26 14:52:00 -
[35]
Edited by: The Assyrian on 26/02/2007 14:49:36
Originally by: n sx
smack
Q: How can you tell if an IAC "diplomat" is smacking?
A: If his lips are moving.
As for lying, who knows more about that than n sx, who rolled into COAD with lie after lie after lie in the early days of the IAC-ISS war? One of the outstanding liars in forum full of them.
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Vando
Umbra Congregatio
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.26 14:55:00 -
[36]
Originally by: Tequilapepper
Well I am just amazed on the IAC posts in here. You show the usual class and respect for your enemies, and I am glad you finally decided to stop with smacking and trolling.
Hm, I kind of let you down there with my last post Although I claim special circumstances, as to flounce onto the forums claiming victory when everyone involved is fully aware of whats coming in 5 days lacks a little class. Hell, any class.
What happened to ISS to make you trumpet such irrelevancies as this so loudly? You should be ashamed, your leadership does you all a great disservice.
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BlackHorizon
Caldari
Umbra Congregatio
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.26 14:59:00 -
[37]
Edited by: BlackHorizon on 26/02/2007 14:55:47
Vando, this thread is just a silly attempt at boosting moral while attempting to look relevant.
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Kaylana Syi
The Nest
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.26 15:01:00 -
[38]
Originally by: DALE0404
Originally by: Count TaSessine
The war is not over yet.
Not by a Long Shot!!
If you were capable of waging war... that might scare me. Don't mistake a position of defense when you have ships and modules with the ability to wage war. Your resolve in C3- is admirable even if its futile. If you become next months pirate alliance that tries to pew pew catch then we welcome it as its always fun to not have to fly for targets.
Team Minmatar
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DALE0404
Blue Star Brotherhood
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.02.26 15:02:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Vando
Originally by: Tequilapepper
Well I am just amazed on the IAC posts in here. You show the usual class and respect for your enemies, and I am glad you finally decided to stop with smacking and trolling.
Hm, I kind of let you down there with my last post Although I claim special circumstances, as to flounce onto the forums claiming victory when everyone involved is fully aware of whats coming in 5 days lacks a little class. Hell, any class.
What happened to ISS to make you trumpet such irrelevancies as this so loudly? You should be ashamed, your leadership does you all a great disservice.
Just to let you all know, we took the station back without the 'leadership' being logged in or even present on our forums due to RL issues. Others just stepped upto the plate.
Leadership within ISS is inherent.
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VinceNoir
Amarr
Pyrrhus Sicarii
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Posted - 2007.02.26 15:03:00 -
[40]
Good show ISS, I imagine things will get a lot more violent in C3.
Kaylani/N SX - GF is just as good.
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Kaylana Syi
The Nest
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.26 15:04:00 -
[41]
Originally by: The Assyrian
Edited by: The Assyrian on 26/02/2007 14:49:36
Originally by: n sx
smack
Q: How can you tell if an IAC "diplomat" is smacking?
A: If his lips are moving.
As for lying, who knows more about that than n sx, who rolled into COAD with lie after lie after lie in the early days of the IAC-ISS war? One of the outstanding liars in forum full of them.
Hey it looks like an ISS alt or a disgruntled shareholder is posting.
Team Minmatar
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Vando
Umbra Congregatio
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.26 15:05:00 -
[42]
Edited by: Vando on 26/02/2007 15:02:11
Originally by: BlackHorizon
Edited by: BlackHorizon on 26/02/2007 14:55:47
Vando, this thread is just a silly attempt at boosting moral while attempting to look relevant.
If I were an ISS member having my leadership posturing over this sort of thing would only make my morale worse.
From the ISS members I've spoken to, morale seems damn fine for a bunch of people that have taken a beating. No thanks to Counts little pep talks I'm sure...
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n sx
The Tidemark
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.26 15:07:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Tequilapepper
*stuff*
Tequilapepper
Tequilapepper, your suggestion is pretty much spot on.
FIX and IAC share a relationship of good fun, and great fights. We have a rich history and one that has been shaped by numerous activities throughout events in the South. To be honest, IAC shares this same bond with almost every alliance we've fought with and against.
What's happened in C3- for ISS is nothing short of impressive. They've stood up time and time again, to take a beating and also give IAC one. Through these 'acitivities' I can assure you the general opinion of an ISS pilot has been raised within IAC's ranks and we have truly appreciated them offering a great contest along with their allies.
What I have merely protested to is that fact that Count T's waltzed on in and devalued for every pilot that's been throwing themselves at us all of their efforts. He's laced his 'announcement' with history that's almost irrelevant and also constrewed to sweeten the story.
This is a fight, over one system that as far as we're aware belongs to LV. It is nothing more and in no way vindicates his, the ISS leadership or our own actions in previous engagement.
A good fight, is a good fight - and there's no need to rubbish it.
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Fear Not
Veni Vidi Dormivi
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Posted - 2007.02.26 15:07:00 -
[44]
Edited by: Fear Not on 26/02/2007 15:04:36
Originally by: BlackHorizon
Edited by: BlackHorizon on 26/02/2007 14:55:47
Vando, this thread is just a silly attempt at boosting moral while attempting to look relevant.
When KOS took the station a day or so ago, why then did you post about its capture if you knew you only had sov for 24 hours or so? Is that not much worse? If what you claim is true then ISS will have had it for 5 times as long as you just did.
If you are going to attempt to insult your enemy you'd be wise to check you hadn't just done the exact same thing.
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Vando
Umbra Congregatio
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.26 15:08:00 -
[45]
Originally by: DALE0404
Just to let you all know, we took the station back without the 'leadership' being logged in or even present on our forums due to RL issues. Others just stepped upto the plate.
Leadership within ISS is inherent.
Exactly my point, the ISS grunts in the field deserve better than silly little threads like this. The actions do you credit, the attempted spin on said actions does not.
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DALE0404
Blue Star Brotherhood
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.02.26 15:10:00 -
[46]
Edited by: DALE0404 on 26/02/2007 15:07:16
Originally by: Vando
Originally by: DALE0404
Just to let you all know, we took the station back without the 'leadership' being logged in or even present on our forums due to RL issues. Others just stepped upto the plate.
Leadership within ISS is inherent.
Exactly my point, the ISS grunts in the field deserve better than silly little threads like this. The actions do you credit, the attempted spin on said actions does not.
I think you missed the point, if it wasnt for Real Life Issues the leadership would have been there.
Btw, check the dictionary for the definition of 'Inherent'.
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Vando
Umbra Congregatio
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.26 15:14:00 -
[47]
Originally by: DALE0404
Edited by: DALE0404 on 26/02/2007 15:07:16
Originally by: Vando
Originally by: DALE0404
Just to let you all know, we took the station back without the 'leadership' being logged in or even present on our forums due to RL issues. Others just stepped upto the plate.
Leadership within ISS is inherent.
Exactly my point, the ISS grunts in the field deserve better than silly little threads like this. The actions do you credit, the attempted spin on said actions does not.
I think you missed the point, if it wasnt for Real Life Issues the leadership would have been there.
Btw, check the dictionary for the definition of 'Inherent'.
I'm quite aware of what inherent means, what I don't understand is what you're trying to say. What *I* am trying to say is that threads like these are not what I would expect from most ISS members, as they have a grasp upon the reality of the situation. This is a valiant rearguard action for sure, but it is not the counterattack that Count T appears to be trying to spin it as.
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velana
The Syndicate Inc
INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.02.26 15:16:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Kaylana Syi
Oh, and I hope noone sees that we've stolen The Syndicate [TSYND] name for ourselves.
To bad its allready been spotted. Anyway we are in no way affiliated with ISS, but guess the people who need to know do know.
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Tequilapepper
Amarr
Xoth Inc
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.02.26 15:17:00 -
[49]
Originally by: n sx
Originally by: Tequilapepper
*stuff*
Tequilapepper
Tequilapepper, your suggestion is pretty much spot on.
FIX and IAC share a relationship of good fun, and great fights. We have a rich history and one that has been shaped by numerous activities throughout events in the South. To be honest, IAC shares this same bond with almost every alliance we've fought with and against.
What's happened in C3- for ISS is nothing short of impressive. They've stood up time and time again, to take a beating and also give IAC one. Through these 'acitivities' I can assure you the general opinion of an ISS pilot has been raised within IAC's ranks and we have truly appreciated them offering a great contest along with their allies.
What I have merely protested to is that fact that Count T's waltzed on in and devalued for every pilot that's been throwing themselves at us all of their efforts. He's laced his 'announcement' with history that's almost irrelevant and also constrewed to sweeten the story.
This is a fight, over one system that as far as we're aware belongs to LV. It is nothing more and in no way vindicates his, the ISS leadership or our own actions in previous engagement.
A good fight, is a good fight - and there's no need to rubbish it.
N sx if you know me,or if you ask around, you know that I agree with you on this. I am simply stating that a polite correction of the events was to prefer. Time shows always the truth, nothing can be hidden forever.
FIX and IAC don't like eachother and we both jumped on every occasion to deal damage, and is fun. More or less for the love for pew pew.We love the fight FIX was forged in conflict and doomed to live in conflict, it just sad for me to read post like those.
But we love to give respect because this made us receive respect from our enemies aswell, and allow us to focus on the lock and fire procedures.
Have fun all
regards
Teq
FIX Grunt
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The Assyrian
Mound of Severed Heads
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Posted - 2007.02.26 15:19:00 -
[50]
Originally by: n sx
A good fight, is a good fight - and there's no need to rubbish it.
Which you and your IAC contingent immediately proceeded to do.
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panman
The Syndicate Inc
INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.02.26 15:21:00 -
[51]
Edited by: panman on 26/02/2007 15:19:04
Edited by: panman on 26/02/2007 15:18:03
Originally by: Kaylana Syi
Oh, and I hope noone sees that we've stolen The Syndicate [TSYND] name for ourselves.
Hi IAC :).. Hope your smashing their heads in
To INTERSTELLAR WEGOTNOSTARBASE SYNDICATE - GET OFF OUR CORP NAME.
Seriously, to anyone suspecting we are helping ISS, we arent.. However if IAC want some more pilots to help, drop me an eve mail :)
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Vando
Umbra Congregatio
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.26 15:21:00 -
[52]
Originally by: The Assyrian
Originally by: n sx
A good fight, is a good fight - and there's no need to rubbish it.
Which you and your IAC contingent immediately proceeded to do.
The fight was a good fight. The spin imparted on that good fight by Count in this thread was not cool, however.
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Kaylana Syi
The Nest
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.26 15:22:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Tequilapepper
Well I am just amazed on the IAC posts in here. You show the usual class and respect for your enemies, and I am glad you finally decided to stop with smacking and trolling.
Nice entrance to counter what you percieve as trolling with trolling.
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We [i]ill get to this part in a moment[i] are happy you found finally your allies, after several attempts (AXE was one, during first prohibition campaing, they helped you to keep your stations but during the second prohibition you decided that -A- was a better deal as a partner while they were attacking your previous ally, AXE. I am sure AXE appreciated your gratitude)
IAC have blues that are not blue with each other. IAC was on AXE's side during their fight with AAA and we offered AND helped. During the end of the AXE/AAA war IAC was found against odds with ISS/MC/FIX/U'K/LV/VETO/KIA and naturally we could blue up AAA who always had our respect as an organization. They would have been blue long before that point if IAC had not owed AXE a debt of gratitude. I don't think you'll find any AAA that wouldn't respect that.
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If you hear my suggestion, try to be more costructive with your post. If is close to retake back the station, just wait for it and make a post about that. Smack is useless, is just the voicing of someone who have no better arguments to convince himself and other fellows of his points. But ofc this will convince day by day loads of more entities that after all if you are the bright side and we are the evil, between the Right and the Wrong a man have to choose the lesser threat.
LOL whatever man. Its station ping pong. ISS pilots have shown a good stand. They will loose that is not the issue. Count T's actions and words are the issue. There was no need to post this rubbish OP. I pointed out why.
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*STANDARD DISCLAIMER* I am not talking on behalf of FIX.
Respectfully
Tequilapepper
So... if you aren't speaking on behalf of FIX... who is the WE i bolded up earlier that you were talking about?
Team Minmatar
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Capt Willard
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Posted - 2007.02.26 15:23:00 -
[54]
If only becoming a decent Corp/Alliance and not a hive of isk-farming alts was a simple as a name change. Don't call yourselves 'The Syndicate', just because you barely own any starbases doesn't meen you can go stealing other peoples name.
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Thoric Frosthammer
The Syndicate Inc
INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.02.26 15:25:00 -
[55]
Well since the Count is gonna have to come up with a new pseudonym for his alliance, and The Syndicate is already very taken, may I suggest the following alternatives?
1) The Interstellar Jita Syndicate
2) The Interstellar Starbaseless Syndicate
3) The Interstellar Scordite/Veldspar Syndicate
4) The Interstellar Sad Panda Syndicate
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The Assyrian
Mound of Severed Heads
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Posted - 2007.02.26 15:28:00 -
[56]
Edited by: The Assyrian on 26/02/2007 15:26:38
Actually, you clowns are "The Syndicate INC".
"The Syndicate." is yet a 3rd corporation -- and from a naming standpoint, they have the best claim to be called.
But this may well be the weakest effort I've ever seen to summon up a little righteous indignation. Seriously? This is your play? You got utterly destroyed by BoB in short order -- and this is what you're reduced to? You know you can't fight BoB, so you're begging to join in on a gang-bang of ISS?
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Thoric Frosthammer
The Syndicate Inc
INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.02.26 15:29:00 -
[57]
Originally by: The Assyrian
Actually, you clowns are "The Syndicate INC".
"The Syndicate." is yet a 3rd corporation -- and from a naming standpoint, they have the best claim to be called.
But this may well be the weakest effort I've ever seen to summon up a little righteous indignation. Seriously? This is your play? You got utterly destroyed by BoB in short order -- and this is what you're reduced to?
I'm sorry, you're who? And you've done what? Smack talking nobodies are sad pandas.
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Capt Willard
The Syndicate Inc
INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.02.26 15:33:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Capt Willard
If only becoming a decent Corp/Alliance and not a hive of isk-farming alts was a simple as a name change. Don't call yourselves 'The Syndicate', just because you barely own any starbases doesn't meen you can go stealing other peoples name.
How bout 'Interstela Safe-Spot Syndicate' ? Everytime i went hunting thats what you all ran for. Big bwad scarewee Wook gonna shoot you, better all wun.
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Dolly Parton
Amarr
5punkorp
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.02.26 15:38:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Silvestri
I'm American...east coast...and it sucks...All the ops take off way before I get home from work...I complain, they get mad...lol. I make it on weekends though.
Side note, I really haven't played much with the C3 fight because I never have time to make the fleets that go up. So yeah..mainly euro based....
yeah east cost and with work and night school I always miss the ops. one of these days maybe the eve gods will make it snow so everything shuts down and i'll still have power
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nickky01
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.02.26 15:54:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Thoric Frosthammer
Well since the Count is gonna have to come up with a new pseudonym for his alliance, and The Syndicate is already very taken, may I suggest the following alternatives?
2) The Interstellar Starbaseless Syndicate
winner
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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
Oh and IAC's official response to ISS's offer is lollerskates.
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ScreamingLord Sutch
Hand in Mouth
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Posted - 2007.02.26 15:59:00 -
[61]
Originally by: Capt Willard
Originally by: Capt Willard
If only becoming a decent Corp/Alliance and not a hive of isk-farming alts was a simple as a name change. Don't call yourselves 'The Syndicate', just because you barely own any starbases doesn't meen you can go stealing other peoples name.
How bout 'Interstela Safe-Spot Syndicate' ? Everytime i went hunting thats what you all ran for. Big bwad scarewee Wook gonna shoot you, better all wun.
Was the mothership you lost at their safespot when it died then?
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Vando
Umbra Congregatio
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.26 16:00:00 -
[62]
Originally by: ScreamingLord Sutch
Originally by: Capt Willard
Originally by: Capt Willard
If only becoming a decent Corp/Alliance and not a hive of isk-farming alts was a simple as a name change. Don't call yourselves 'The Syndicate', just because you barely own any starbases doesn't meen you can go stealing other peoples name.
How bout 'Interstela Safe-Spot Syndicate' ? Everytime i went hunting thats what you all ran for. Big bwad scarewee Wook gonna shoot you, better all wun.
Was the mothership you lost at their safespot when it died then?
It was a quantum mothership.
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Wylker
Caldari
Pyrrhus Sicarii
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Posted - 2007.02.26 16:04:00 -
[63]
Isn't it amazing? ISS and IAC are fighting honorably, respecting eachother, growing in esteem in the community, and then Kaylana and N SX just come and crap all over it. Good work you two, keep it up, you're winners. Maybe when you grow up you can be more like Foo and fight well in order to have something that backs up your smack.
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elchief
FIRMA
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.26 16:12:00 -
[64]
iac controls c3 at this point.. iss control the station but we stole your pos and blew up one of your carriers... really wish you hadnt logged before we attacked count :(
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Malachon Draco
eXceed Inc.
INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.02.26 16:13:00 -
[65]
Whats the POS count for both sides atm?
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Vando
Umbra Congregatio
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.26 16:14:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Wylker
Isn't it amazing? ISS and IAC are fighting honorably, respecting eachother, growing in esteem in the community, and then Kaylana and N SX just come and crap all over it. Good work you two, keep it up, you're winners. Maybe when you grow up you can be more like Foo and fight well in order to have something that backs up your smack.
I take it you didn't read Counts post then?
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Amith Silvermoon
The Littlest Hobos
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Posted - 2007.02.26 16:19:00 -
[67]
Originally by: nickky01
Originally by: Thoric Frosthammer
Well since the Count is gonna have to come up with a new pseudonym for his alliance, and The Syndicate is already very taken, may I suggest the following alternatives?
2) The Interstellar Starbaseless Syndicate
winner
TBH i did laugh at that one
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Fear Not
Veni Vidi Dormivi
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Posted - 2007.02.26 16:24:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Vando
Originally by: Wylker
Isn't it amazing? ISS and IAC are fighting honorably, respecting eachother, growing in esteem in the community, and then Kaylana and N SX just come and crap all over it. Good work you two, keep it up, you're winners. Maybe when you grow up you can be more like Foo and fight well in order to have something that backs up your smack.
I take it you didn't read Counts post then?
I just went back and re-read it. It doesn't attack IAC at all. What are you on about?
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Mynas Atoch
Eternity INC.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.02.26 16:28:00 -
[69]
Edited by: Mynas Atoch on 26/02/2007 16:25:18
Edited by: Mynas Atoch on 26/02/2007 16:24:42
Congrats ISS. Glad to see my former alliance fighting back hard.
Myn
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Kaylana Syi > we will be there when that POS comes out of reinforcements will capital killers
Count TaSessine > good, it'll be nice to see what IAC can do on its own without your nannies
Count TaSessine > now *uck off
Count TaSessine > I'm going to bed
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Camilo Cienfuegos
Caldari
ISS Navy Task Force
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.02.26 16:28:00 -
[70]
Quote:
I take it you didn't read Counts post then?
I have read and re-read all the posts in this thread, and I see nothing wrong with the OP. Having been present in all the most recent C3 operations and of course our abortive efforts in Catch, I would appreciate if someone would point out exactly what in the OP is being "spun".
It saddens me that whilst your pilots continue to show nothing but courtesy and respect in our engagements, the forum trolls - most of whom I am yet to see on my overview in C3 - continue in their attempts to propogandise this conflict. It's indicative of a two-faced nature within the structure of the IAC, and grossly discredits all that you supposedly fight for.
Even if you were correct in your assertions, you're logic is that of two "wrongs" making a "right".
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Silvestri
FIRMA
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.26 16:34:00 -
[71]
I didn't smack.... I gave the grunts props. And kudos for getting C3 back. I used to chat with Mynas in local alot when MC was here. You lil cloaker you..hehe. I don't know.....both sides spin....both sides don't really hate each other..maybe some but...in general it was like I said when it all began...two brothers fed up with each other....ISS used to be the big brother...IAC got bigger and was sick of the crap. Now look where we are....who knew? I'm a forum ***** and proud of it...
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Steelsky
ISS Navy Task Force
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.02.26 16:42:00 -
[72]
Yeah you did blow up my carrier props to that... but you have to admit it was fun as hell LOL... much enjoyment for that engagement... I hope we can do it again and maybe next time I can tank ya'll even longer ... not bragging just glad my setup worked LOL..
Steelsky Djerrassi
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M3ta
Amarr
Umbra Congregatio
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.26 16:46:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Steelsky
Yeah you did blow up my carrier props to that... but you have to admit it was fun as hell LOL... much enjoyment for that engagement... I hope we can do it again and maybe next time I can tank ya'll even longer ... not bragging just glad my setup worked LOL..
Steelsky Djerrassi
Lots of respect everywhere, this is how it should be done. You're setting a standard.
Many props to you, Steel.
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ReaperOfSly
Gallente
Lyrus Associates
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.02.26 16:50:00 -
[74]
Edited by: ReaperOfSly on 26/02/2007 16:48:23
EDIT: this thread seems to be back on track, so my moan seems a little redundant now
Keep the fights coming, you drunks!
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elchief
FIRMA
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.26 16:53:00 -
[75]
yeah iac has to give much repsect ot steelsky he was an amasing sport flying into certain death to help his alliance mates out much respect to this guy.. we are still chatting in local, My personal repsect for iss has grown hugely today mainly due to this one guys actions... damn fine tank too mate :)
fly safe and hope to see ya on the battlefield again soon
chief
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Kaylana Syi
The Nest
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.26 16:53:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Camilo Cienfuegos
I am yet to see on my overview in C3 - continue in their attempts to propogandise this conflict. It's indicative of a two-faced nature within the structure of the IAC, and grossly discredits all that you supposedly fight for.
Actually the people posting HAVE been in C3-. If they don't show up on your overview that is not our problem. Some of are capital pilots seiging your POSes. Your comment is indicative of propaganda. If I wanted to go off on a progaganda kick I'd start by adding up the billions of isk the alliance and its corps have lost in isk for infrastructure and how much it is going to loose and then ask about how your IPO is going. And I'd do it on the market forum not here.
Quote:
Even if you were correct in your assertions, you're logic is that of two "wrongs" making a "right".
Cutting off useless propaganda at the pass.
Team Minmatar
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Vando
Umbra Congregatio
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.26 17:00:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Kaylana Syi
Cutting off useless propaganda at the pass.
Damn right. This is no turning point, merely a speed bump. Heck, its barely even that. I'd like to appeal to all involved to keep things in perspective and not trump up certain achievements. ISS have been exemplary opposition in the C3 campaign up until this thread. We're not trying to take away from your achievements, just trying to make sure we're all aware of the facts of the situation.
Remember, there are people not so highly involved that will be reading this thread and could very easily take Counts post to mean that ISS have reclaimed Calico on a permanent basis. All we ask is for some acknowledgement that at this time the future of the station remains in the balance, with the current position being to KOS/IACs advantage.
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Galimiy Portret
R.u.S.H.
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.26 17:03:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Phoenicia
Originally by: Count TaSessine
The fight has been long and the price high, but the new Syndicate that will emerge from this war will be hardened.
"Is that a POS tower in your pocket or are you just hardened to see me?"
LMAO
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Ace101
Dark Knights of Deneb
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.26 17:08:00 -
[79]
no one writes a thread quite like ISS and IAC.
GFs to ISS, and please stop calling me primary
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Camilo Cienfuegos
Caldari
ISS Navy Task Force
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.02.26 17:10:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Kaylana Syi
Originally by: Camilo Cienfuegos
I am yet to see on my overview in C3 - continue in their attempts to propogandise this conflict. It's indicative of a two-faced nature within the structure of the IAC, and grossly discredits all that you supposedly fight for.
Actually the people posting HAVE been in C3-. If they don't show up on your overview that is not our problem. Some of are capital pilots seiging your POSes. Your comment is indicative of propaganda. If I wanted to go off on a progaganda kick I'd start by adding up the billions of isk the alliance and its corps have lost in isk for infrastructure and how much it is going to loose and then ask about how your IPO is going. And I'd do it on the market forum not here.
Quote:
Even if you were correct in your assertions, you're logic is that of two "wrongs" making a "right".
Cutting off useless propaganda at the pass.
Thank you for reinforcing my point by attempting to partial-quote me out of context, and for evading the issue itself.
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Vando
Umbra Congregatio
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.26 17:16:00 -
[81]
Edited by: Vando on 26/02/2007 17:14:32
Edited by: Vando on 26/02/2007 17:12:53
Originally by: Camilo Cienfuegos
I would appreciate if someone would point out exactly what in the OP is being "spun".
It describes the situation in 100% positive terms for ISS. There is ZERO mention of the fragility of the current hold on the station, and zero reference to the KOS/IAC forces present.
It paints a picture of a simple retake and no further actions to come, which is far from the case.
EDIT: Thank you for the acknowledgement at the end there Camilo.
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The Assyrian
Mound of Severed Heads
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Posted - 2007.02.26 17:20:00 -
[82]
Edited by: The Assyrian on 26/02/2007 17:17:09
Originally by: Vando
Originally by: Camilo Cienfuegos
I would appreciate if someone would point out exactly what in the OP is being "spun".
It describes the situation in 100% positive terms for ISS. There is ZERO mention of the fragility of the current hold on the station, and zero reference to the KOS/IAC forces present.
It paints a picture of a simple retake and no further actions to come, which is far from the case.
Kind of like this thread here?
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ReaperOfSly
Gallente
Lyrus Associates
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.02.26 17:23:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Ace101
GFs to ISS, and please stop calling me primary
That's what you get for choosing a name beginning with A I'm afraid
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Fear Not
Veni Vidi Dormivi
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Posted - 2007.02.26 17:26:00 -
[84]
Edited by: Fear Not on 26/02/2007 17:23:25
Why can IAC not accept this one small victory? You just come across as sore losers.
Nobody is trying to paint the whole picture of the war, just that ISS now control C3-. Just the same way IAC announced KOS controlled C3- a day or so back.
Seems to me that IAC are extremely embarrassed every time they lose to ISS. Why?
It just puts IAC in a bad light. Well the 'diplomats' at least. The majority of standard IAC members seem to be good sportsmen.
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Omega Man
The Geddy Foundation
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Posted - 2007.02.26 17:35:00 -
[85]
ISS, I hope you fight to your last ISK.
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Camilo Cienfuegos
Caldari
ISS Navy Task Force
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.02.26 17:53:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Vando
Edited by: Vando on 26/02/2007 17:14:32
Edited by: Vando on 26/02/2007 17:12:53
Originally by: Camilo Cienfuegos
I would appreciate if someone would point out exactly what in the OP is being "spun".
It describes the situation in 100% positive terms for ISS. There is ZERO mention of the fragility of the current hold on the station, and zero reference to the KOS/IAC forces present.
It paints a picture of a simple retake and no further actions to come, which is far from the case.
EDIT: Thank you for the acknowledgement at the end there Camilo.
You're very welcome!
Thank you for explaining to me why posts such as these appear to perturb some members of the IAC contingent to the brink of flaming. I can absolutely understand why you would think this as an attempt to "gloss over" our failings - and I assure you, we would attempt no such thing. The OP's upbeat tone is merely a reflection of the sentiment within the Syndicate in regards to the war, it's progress and the role we have played (and will continue to play) in it.
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Caol
The Nest
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.26 18:04:00 -
[87]
Taken from another thread
Grats ISS 
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insanebe
Caldari
soni Corp
Imperium Sonorumance
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Posted - 2007.02.26 18:10:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Omega Man
ISS, I hope you fight to your last ISK.
they'll be fighting for ever then :p
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Kaylana Syi
The Nest
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.26 19:12:00 -
[89]
Originally by: Fear Not
Edited by: Fear Not on 26/02/2007 17:23:25
Why can IAC not accept this one small victory? You just come across as sore losers.
Nobody is trying to paint the whole picture of the war, just that ISS now control C3-. Just the same way IAC announced KOS controlled C3- a day or so back.
Seems to me that IAC are extremely embarrassed every time they lose to ISS. Why?
It just puts IAC in a bad light. Well the 'diplomats' at least. The majority of standard IAC members seem to be good sportsmen.
Because we haven't lost to ISS. It is station ping pong and they cought it on an off hour. We are agressors in this fight. When we took C3- and kicked out their clones that was a major victory from a tactical view point. Embarrased about station ping pong at this point is useless for either side. I also find it pretty funny you are calling us diplomats... really clues you in to how clueless you are about the internals of IAC.
Team Minmatar
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Kadriel
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.02.26 19:30:00 -
[90]
Originally by: DALE0404
Leadership within ISS is inherent.[/quote
HAHAAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Holden Bundfield
Caldari
Army of One
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Posted - 2007.02.26 19:37:00 -
[91]
Originally by: Kaylana Syi
Originally by: Fear Not
Edited by: Fear Not on 26/02/2007 17:23:25
Why can IAC not accept this one small victory? You just come across as sore losers.
Nobody is trying to paint the whole picture of the war, just that ISS now control C3-. Just the same way IAC announced KOS controlled C3- a day or so back.
Seems to me that IAC are extremely embarrassed every time they lose to ISS. Why?
It just puts IAC in a bad light. Well the 'diplomats' at least. The majority of standard IAC members seem to be good sportsmen.
Because we haven't lost to ISS. It is station ping pong and they cought it on an off hour. We are agressors in this fight. When we took C3- and kicked out their clones that was a major victory from a tactical view point. Embarrased about station ping pong at this point is useless for either side. I also find it pretty funny you are calling us diplomats... really clues you in to how clueless you are about the internals of IAC.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=453518&page=2#45
Originally by: "Kaylana Syi"
Tyrrax is one of three Vice Presidents on the executive board. I am one of two diplomats on the executive board.
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Kaylana Syi
The Nest
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.26 19:39:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Holden Bundfield
Originally by: Kaylana Syi
Originally by: Fear Not
Edited by: Fear Not on 26/02/2007 17:23:25
Why can IAC not accept this one small victory? You just come across as sore losers.
Nobody is trying to paint the whole picture of the war, just that ISS now control C3-. Just the same way IAC announced KOS controlled C3- a day or so back.
Seems to me that IAC are extremely embarrassed every time they lose to ISS. Why?
It just puts IAC in a bad light. Well the 'diplomats' at least. The majority of standard IAC members seem to be good sportsmen.
Because we haven't lost to ISS. It is station ping pong and they cought it on an off hour. We are agressors in this fight. When we took C3- and kicked out their clones that was a major victory from a tactical view point. Embarrased about station ping pong at this point is useless for either side. I also find it pretty funny you are calling us diplomats... really clues you in to how clueless you are about the internals of IAC.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=453518&page=2#45
Originally by: "Kaylana Syi"
Tyrrax is one of three Vice Presidents on the executive board. I am one of two diplomats on the executive board.
Old data. Its like necroing a m0o thread. Times change.
Team Minmatar
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Ace101
Dark Knights of Deneb
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.26 19:50:00 -
[93]
Originally by: ReaperOfSly
Originally by: Ace101
GFs to ISS, and please stop calling me primary
That's what you get for choosing a name beginning with A I'm afraid
havnt got me yet 
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Bacilius
The Tidemark
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.26 20:01:00 -
[94]
Kaylana and N sx are VP and VP (retired) respectively.
I can be contacted regarding all Diplomatic matters regarding the IAC. This includes you Count. I realise my last attempt to contact you personally was at a bad time (you had just invaded F4R and were seiging the Bottleshop).
As has always been the case, I make myself available to you should you wish to deal with a contact other than the executive above. Diplomacy requires respect and the ability to look beyond the personality you're dealing with to the greater good of your pilots. Diplomacy has not been a strength of IAC and its leadership in the past, however it was never a real necessity until Prohibition II. Drunks love everyone....
Diplomacy, however, is why your alliance is where it is today. For such a high profile business and leader, diplomacy is your lifeblood and your failure in recent months has a lot to do with failed diplomacy on your part. I hope one day you may seek to rectify this at the highest level with us. Until then, please continue to fill your worthy members with false hope and misdirection. Time is your only variable. This outcome is a constant.
Bac
Diplomat
IAC
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Kaganis Warmonkey
Lyrus Associates
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.02.26 20:02:00 -
[95]
Originally by: Kaylana Syi
Because we haven't lost to ISS.
True, this could still go either way.
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It is station ping pong
Five days safely in our hands isn't quite what I'd call ping pong, but that arguement leads to semantics. So Meh.
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When we took C3- and kicked out their clones that was a major victory from a tactical view point.
Taking it back, restoring our medical clones, and kicking yours out is an equally major victory from a tactical view point.
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Kaganis Warmonkey
Lyrus Associates
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.02.26 20:07:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Ace101
havnt got me yet
*Cough* One Assault Frig in ZXIC during the early stages of the war. *Cough*
But that is a very impressive run of ISS kills without losses you've got going. Nicely done. o7
We're going to have to primary you more often....
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Silvestri
FIRMA
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.26 20:11:00 -
[97]
I remember the seige of F4R....ISS and support were bragging alot about the total of losses....POS's, station, and so forth....How about now? We got our bottleshop back with interest. I'd love to know total financial losses thus far now that I think about it...I wish every day was a weekend....
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DHB FooFighter
FIRMA
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.26 20:33:00 -
[98]
The Fight for C3- station ends in 5 days. Unless ISS,Rise, and co start attacking towers, KOS owns more Larges.
I personaly have had a lot of fun, except for that slightly embarresing moment when i got jumped by a ceptor + fighter swarm while i was discussing standings with Verone and lost my mega :\.
ISS has put up a valient fight, but ofcourse it is much easier to defend a system then to attack it.
And to all those who seem determined to defend the Count, go back to his OP and reread the 3rd paragraph. The only true statement he makes is the last one. They did sell the Providence Outpost to Sylph alliance on the 4th of Feb, but Count's seeminly habitual ability to lie is a bit annoying, and i can see how Nsx and Kay's patience has gotten a bit frayed by it.
Count, we tried to be your friends, hell we even defended a few of your POS's. But your vision of perfect nuetrality blinded you to a simple fact. You cannot survive in 0.0 without friends. And being nuetral just isn't very friendly.
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R3dSh1ft
Caldari
FIRMA
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.26 21:00:00 -
[99]
Originally by: Count TaSessine
December 9th when the former publically owned stations in Catch were suddenly attacked by longtime neighbours IAC. The Syndicate responded in kind, but was overwhelmed by a coalition of alliances from north to south
Absolute twaddle, son. But whatever helps you sleep at night.
The fight in C3-0YD is ongoing, more brave soldiers will die on both sides, but one MUST have respect for the ISS SOLDIERS who fight - outnumbered sometimes 3:1 - for the LV station.
THANKYOU for the fun, THANKYOU for the polite local banter, and enjoying the game with us.
Don't get disheartened by your leader's apparent lack of foresight and political understanding. There will be a place for each and every one of the soldiers when New New Eden is born.
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Silvestri
FIRMA
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.26 21:05:00 -
[100]
I still think they have hidden talent...like that ISS carrier pilot...
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Ace101
Dark Knights of Deneb
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.26 21:21:00 -
[101]
Originally by: Kaganis Warmonkey
Originally by: Ace101
havnt got me yet
*Cough* One Assault Frig in ZXIC during the early stages of the war. *Cough*
But that is a very impressive run of ISS kills without losses you've got going. Nicely done. o7
We're going to have to primary you more often....
that was a slideshow of death for me...
1) warp in
2) red
3) freeze
4) flashy red
5) freeze
6) dead
7) get new ship and get back in fight
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Kaganis Warmonkey
Lyrus Associates
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.02.26 22:14:00 -
[102]
Originally by: DHB FooFighter
The Fight for C3- station ends in 5 days. Unless ISS,Rise, and co start attacking towers, KOS owns more Larges.
It ends when we pull out / have the last of our assets kicked out.
But yeah, unless something happens in the meantime, advantage goes to KOS & friends Saturday downtime.
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it is much easier to defend a system then to attack it.
That's up for debate. I've seen quite a few people argue that it's easier to attack than defend.
It's not a debate I'm particularly qualified to take part in (I arrived in F4 after we took it), or have much interest in arguing, I'm just pointing out that's not a cut & dried statement. 
(A debate for a separate thread perhaps?)
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And to all those who seem determined to defend the Count, go back to his OP and reread the 3rd paragraph. The only true statement he makes is the last one. They did sell the Providence Outpost to Sylph alliance on the 4th of Feb, but Count's seeminly habitual ability to lie is a bit annoying, and i can see how Nsx and Kay's patience has gotten a bit frayed by it.
Actually, from our side of the fence, it's pretty accurate. The only thing missing is the F4 siege, but in the greater scheme of things, that didn't come to much did it? It's not like we still have POS's, offices, or anything at all left in that system.
OK, ok, I suppose there is the never to be resolved arguement about the politics of going into F4, but:
a) That's been done to death.
b) Part of the arguement is, we don't see it as having any effect on the outcome, others do.
So I don't see it's omission as a big deal (or, strickly speaking, a lie). *Shrug*. I suppose it all comes down to your point of view. 
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Count, we tried to be your friends, hell we even defended a few of your POS's. But your vision of perfect nuetrality blinded you to a simple fact. You cannot survive in 0.0 without friends. And being nuetral just isn't very friendly.
Bizzarely enough, that's similar to my recent thinking on the topic.
One ironic thing of this war is that we've become a lot more like IAC in certain ways. We've dropped any attempt to be neutral, and have decided to stick with our friends through thick & thin. It's going to be a cold day in hell before we turn on LV, UK, or anyone else who's won our friendship.
Even the IAC detractors have a hard time denying that they stick up for their friends, and keep pressing their enemies.
Now that's an attitude we've adopted, it's kinda amusing that we're on opposite sides.
As for the syndicate thing. When I first heard that, I was afraid it would get confised with the Intaki Syndicate.
*Insert Obligatory "Just an ISS grunt speaking his personal opinion" disclaimer here*
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0August0
Gallente
Gooch Unlimited
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Posted - 2007.02.26 22:19:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Vando
It describes the situation in 100% positive terms for ISS. There is ZERO mention of the fragility of the current hold on the station, and zero reference to the KOS/IAC forces present.
It paints a picture of a simple retake and no further actions to come, which is far from the case.
You mean like Foofighter did in his earlier post regarding the first fall of the C3- station?
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Today after DT, a force comrpised of 30 Goonswarm, 40 KOS, and 80 IAC took the LV Calico station in C3-
The ISS defending the system have put up a decent fight so far, but were again defeated after warping to the station. Lag was horrible btw.
POS spam 4tl :)
Notice there is no mention in that message of the fact that they'd loose sovereignty again which he knew would happen. It also describes the situation in 100% positive terms for the coalition. Where was your outrage then?
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DHB FooFighter
FIRMA
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.26 22:48:00 -
[104]
Originally by: 0August0
Originally by: Vando
It describes the situation in 100% positive terms for ISS. There is ZERO mention of the fragility of the current hold on the station, and zero reference to the KOS/IAC forces present.
It paints a picture of a simple retake and no further actions to come, which is far from the case.
You mean like Foofighter did in his earlier post regarding the first fall of the C3- station?
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Today after DT, a force comrpised of 30 Goonswarm, 40 KOS, and 80 IAC took the LV Calico station in C3-
The ISS defending the system have put up a decent fight so far, but were again defeated after warping to the station. Lag was horrible btw.
POS spam 4tl :)
Notice there is no mention in that message of the fact that they'd loose sovereignty again which he knew would happen. It also describes the situation in 100% positive terms for the coalition. Where was your outrage then?
Then again, the Count alo failed to mention they will lose Sov in 5 days time back to KOS, and that should be the last time sov changes hands in C3-.
The point here is why the hell would anyone make a post where they say "yeah we won today but its a shallow meaningless victory that doesn't matter anyway". The answer is because that would be just plain silly.
ISS trys to boost morale in the same fashion I did. Except I refrained from bending the truth in order to try and sway sentiment towards one side. Luckily, only the ignorant fell for the Count's verbal sharade. Sadly though, there are a lot of ignorant people out there :\
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Camilo Cienfuegos
Caldari
ISS Navy Task Force
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.02.26 23:10:00 -
[105]
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Then again, the Count alo failed to mention they will lose Sov in 5 days time back to KOS, and that should be the last time sov changes hands in C3-.
Assumption. History may prove you right - we will see in a few weeks. Until then, this is low-grade propoganda, and I expected better of you. Again, we're in the "two wrongs make a right" territory - a fallacial argument.
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The point here is why the hell would anyone make a post where they say "yeah we won today but its a shallow meaningless victory that doesn't matter anyway". The answer is because that would be just plain silly.
I'm glad we're agreed. So the problem with the OP - which you freely admit is no different to your own - can be found where?
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ISS [tries] to boost morale in the same fashion I did. Except I refrained from bending the truth in order to try and sway sentiment towards one side. Luckily, only the ignorant fell for the Count's verbal [charade]. Sadly though, there are a lot of ignorant people out there :\
If Count bent the truth - which I would assert he did not - then you did too, foo.
Try again.
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Aelena Thraant
Shadows of the Dead
Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.26 23:20:00 -
[106]
Originally by: Camilo Cienfuegos
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Then again, the Count alo failed to mention they will lose Sov in 5 days time back to KOS, and that should be the last time sov changes hands in C3-.
Assumption. History may prove you right - we will see in a few weeks. Until then, this is low-grade propoganda, and I expected better of you. Again, we're in the "two wrongs make a right" territory - a fallacial argument.
Quote:
The point here is why the hell would anyone make a post where they say "yeah we won today but its a shallow meaningless victory that doesn't matter anyway". The answer is because that would be just plain silly.
ISS Guys... As a former KOS member... Keep checking each tower every day... KOS has a bad habit of forgetting to fuel their poses or not putting good amounts of stront in them... Just look at how fast they lost N7. That's when we left KOS... Wish we had left sooner but hind site.
And even if they do keep them running for 5 days... Keep checking... You might get a pleasant surprise one day if history repeats itself.
KOS owning stations again is so funny... (And no Aftermath doesn't own any stations Yet )
I'm glad we're agreed. So the problem with the OP - which you freely admit is no different to your own - can be found where?
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ISS [tries] to boost morale in the same fashion I did. Except I refrained from bending the truth in order to try and sway sentiment towards one side. Luckily, only the ignorant fell for the Count's verbal [charade]. Sadly though, there are a lot of ignorant people out there :\
If Count bent the truth - which I would assert he did not - then you did too, foo.
Try again.
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DHB FooFighter
FIRMA
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.26 23:26:00 -
[107]
Edited by: DHB FooFighter on 26/02/2007 23:30:31
Edit: im a noob with quotes.
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Assumption. History may prove you right - we will see in a few weeks. Until then, this is low-grade propoganda, and I expected better of you. Again, we're in the "two wrongs make a right" territory - a fallacial argument.
What was implied dear sir, is that KOS now owns more then half the moons, so unless, as i stated earlier, you attack the POS Sov will not change hands. My "low-grade propoganda" is merely a statement of truth.
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I'm glad we're agreed. So the problem with the OP - which you freely admit is no different to your own - can be found where?
I did not delve into the murky depths of the past in order to try and sway public opinion. Your dear Count spins falsehoods about past events in which the facts have been lost to rumour and myth. I did not say anything except what happened on that specific day.
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If Count bent the truth - which I would assert he did not - then you did too, foo.
Try again.
I said nothing that is not verifiable fact. Count however continues to leave out the fact that ISS attacked our POS first, ISS were the first to bring "friends" and he continualy tries to word his posts to try and make it seem as if IAC are nothing but war mongering POS spammers.
Please, tell me where i'm wrong.
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Camilo Cienfuegos
Caldari
ISS Navy Task Force
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.02.27 00:03:00 -
[108]
Originally by: DHB FooFighter
Please, tell me where i'm wrong.
Gladly... (and my thanks for retaining civility)
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What was implied dear sir, is that KOS now owns more then half the moons, so unless, as i stated earlier, you attack the POS Sov will not change hands. My "low-grade propoganda" is merely a statement of truth.
This comment here is indeed a statement of truth. However, you omitted the fact that sovereignty of the system can and will change in your thread, no different to Count. Is this bending the truth?
Quote:
I did not delve into the murky depths of the past in order to try and sway public opinion. Your dear Count spins falsehoods about past events in which the facts have been lost to rumour and myth. I did not say anything except what happened on that specific day.
I see no inaccuracies in his brief historical account. Any historical content is a matter of public record - it's all here in the forums, should any "ignorant" person choose to find it.
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I said nothing that is not verifiable fact. Count however continues to leave out the fact that ISS attacked our POS first, ISS were the first to bring "friends" and he continualy tries to word his posts to try and make it seem as if IAC are nothing but war mongering POS spammers.
War mongers perhaps; after all, you were the first to declare open hostilities. I fail to see where POS spamming is mentioned anywhere in the OP, however. Another attempt to spin this thread in your favour?
As for asking for friendly support, I cannot in good conscience refute this without first posing you a question: When did SOD join the fray?
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The Assyrian
Mound of Severed Heads
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Posted - 2007.02.27 00:11:00 -
[109]
Edited by: The Assyrian on 27/02/2007 00:07:51
Originally by: Camilo Cienfuegos
As for asking for friendly support, I cannot in good conscience refute this without first posing you a question: When did SOD join the fray?
And the answer, contrary to DHB Foofighter's claims, is on the very first night. Other allies of IAC were on the scene within a day.
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DHB FooFighter
FIRMA
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.27 00:27:00 -
[110]
Originally by: The Assyrian
Edited by: The Assyrian on 27/02/2007 00:07:51
Originally by: Camilo Cienfuegos
As for asking for friendly support, I cannot in good conscience refute this without first posing you a question: When did SOD join the fray?
And the answer, contrary to DHB Foofighter's claims, is on the very first night. Other allies of IAC were on the scene within a day.
SoD is dead, I killed them.
Anyway, SoD joined when we declared we wanted a bit of shoosty shoost with ISS, because they also wanted to shoot them. But if you paid any attention you will know that SoD did not participate in any IAC ops during the first month of the war, in fact they were so disillusioned by the blobs that they went up north for a while.
SoD only came back when we offered them the ZXIC station because tbh, we couldn't be asked to put up more pos at that time.
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Tumbles
Blue Labs
Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.02.27 00:44:00 -
[111]
Originally by: Aelena Thraant
Edited by: Aelena Thraant on 26/02/2007 23:18:11
ISS Guys... As a former KOS member... Keep checking each tower every day... KOS has a bad habit of forgetting to fuel their poses or not putting good amounts of stront in them... Just look at how fast they lost N7. That's when we left KOS... Wish we had left sooner but hind site.
And even if they do keep them running for 5 days... Keep checking... You might get a pleasant surprise one day if history repeats itself.
KOS owning stations again is so funny... (And no Aftermath doesn't own any stations Yet )
Hey Aelena, thanks for the concern. If we have any problems manageing our POSes we will be sure to give u a call and ask for your advice.  In fact maybe you guys should re-apply to KOS and run our POSes for us?
On another note: I just wanted to say to all the ISS and IAC pilots, i am just having a blast in c3-. Been good fights all around with wins and losses both ways. Good to have an all out brawl from time to time!!
O7
- Tumbles
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Malvahne
FIRMA
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.27 00:52:00 -
[112]
6 hours of straight gate camping and not 1 kill. Any one care about signing my petition to make drones telport to targets instead of them mwding to them?
All kidding aside, thanks ISS for a nother fun evening. As for me enough EVE for tonight. Bed time \o/
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Kaganis Warmonkey
Lyrus Associates
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.02.27 03:59:00 -
[113]
As an FYI, despite POS bugs with the re-inforced timer on our towers, KOS managed to put up another two large towers of there own in the system.
This means they gain sov by two towers Saturday, and by four towers Sunday.
It was nice to see both sides put there heads together, try to work what was going on with the bugs, and both agree that calling on CCP to try fix it was the appropriate course of action.
In the end, KOS et al managed to kill our two before the issue was resolved, while we hit them where we could. Respect for pushing on through guys, you stayed on later than anyone expected to get the job done.
Oh, Yet More props to Steelsky for loosing another ship in the call of duty. That man doesn't take the safe option, and is prepared to risk everything to help the alliance the best he can.
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Abn Matar
Minmatar
Genco
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.27 11:37:00 -
[114]
Originally by: Omega Man
ISS, I hope you fight to your last ISK.
I think you mean your last isk...
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Silvestri
FIRMA
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.27 12:55:00 -
[115]
Kudos to ISS who undocked a few ships straight into a bubble field....surprised to see you hit our snipers the way you did....still lost more ships but...kudos. Gratz KOS. Hope you reap the rewards of the station in a few days...
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SSDD24
Gallente
Umbra Congregatio
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.27 12:57:00 -
[116]
Maybe if ISS had a real leadership, guys like Steelsky wouldnt have to suicide like that. Mate u earned our respect alongside with the other ISS grunts. Thanks Chief for givin us an extraordinary afternoon.
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Vando
Umbra Congregatio
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.27 13:20:00 -
[117]
To the people making the comparison to Foo's thread about the initial capture:
That post was very different. X ships were present on each side, ISS fought well, station in the hands of KOS.
Count's post was 'I'm not sure what happened but after being up against it since the original war in Catch now we've hit back and recaptured C3-'.
Now, apart from both posts essentially saying the same thing ('we now hold C3-'), that isn't the important part. Foo's post told it like it was. Count's post told it how he wanted it to be.
I don't care if the post says 'gf, we have C3- back, your move'. What gets to me and I presume the other IAC members posting here is the (admittedly clever) spin on the situation that makes it appear like a potential turning point in the fate of C3-. These first 2 captures, one for each side, are irrelevant. The difference is that one side is attempting to inflate the relevancy of their achievement.
I know I'm mostly replying to the alt brigade here, sorry ISS people :) But I feel it needs to be highlighted for the benefit of the neutral observer who may put too much stock in the sniping from alts.
The future of C3- as yet hangs in the balance, after all who knows what tomorrow may bring?
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Kaganis Warmonkey
Lyrus Associates
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.02.27 13:41:00 -
[118]
Originally by: Silvestri
Kudos to ISS who undocked a few ships straight into a bubble field....surprised to see you hit our snipers the way you did....still lost more ships but...kudos.
I'd trade a few T1 frigs & cruisers for a T2 fitted faction BS any day of the week TBH. Not getting the Rokh was disappointing, but you guys just popped the tacklers too quick.
Gratz for bringing it out to play. Unfortunately that guy's apparently got three more... 
We were hoping that it would pull more of the station camp off the undock point. But you guys were good enough to keep some back. Oh well, we got some more people out, so it didn't turn out too badly.
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Camilo Cienfuegos
Caldari
ISS Navy Task Force
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.02.27 13:53:00 -
[119]
Edited by: Camilo Cienfuegos on 27/02/2007 13:52:04
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The difference is that one side is attempting to inflate the relevancy of their achievement.
I disagree: After the Bottleshop siege, the battle for Catch was almost entirely a one-sided affair. Are we wrong to look on the recapture of ISS Calico in Tenerifis, given our abject failure in Catch, as a success? I don't think so, especially given the massive restructuring the Syndicate has undergone - and my objections in here make that quite plain.
As for the "haziness" of the OP, that is simply explained: The recapture of the station was down to our pilots taking the initiative and rallying to take advantage of the lull in C3 during what was our own off-period. As I stated in another thread (foo's thread, for that matter), the station was taken with a mere 40 pilots, only one capital class ship and less than ten battleships.
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Vando
Umbra Congregatio
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.27 14:12:00 -
[120]
I think the point has been discussed enough that everyone will be able to make up their own mind. You're quite entitled to your opinion, as the whole thing is down to personal valuations of this recapture. It is a success, no question. But IAC reserve the right to cast doubts as to the overall effectiveness of this success.
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celous
Caldari
Dark Skyes
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Posted - 2007.02.27 14:56:00 -
[121]
Edited by: celous on 27/02/2007 14:54:09
Originally by: Bacilius
Kaylana and N sx are VP and VP (retired) respectively.
I can be contacted regarding all Diplomatic matters regarding the IAC. This includes you Count. I realise my last attempt to contact you personally was at a bad time (you had just invaded F4R and were seiging the Bottleshop).
As has always been the case, I make myself available to you should you wish to deal with a contact other than the executive above. Diplomacy requires respect and the ability to look beyond the personality you're dealing with to the greater good of your pilots. Diplomacy has not been a strength of IAC and its leadership in the past, however it was never a real necessity until Prohibition II. Drunks love everyone....
Diplomacy, however, is why your alliance is where it is today. For such a high profile business and leader, diplomacy is your lifeblood and your failure in recent months has a lot to do with failed diplomacy on your part. I hope one day you may seek to rectify this at the highest level with us. Until then, please continue to fill your worthy members with false hope and misdirection. Time is your only variable. This outcome is a constant.
Bac
Diplomat
IAC
I was enjoying reading this until I came across this part!(In bold) What did count fail on? nothing. They tried to sort it out but as you guys act like teenagers and totally arrogant. ISS done a lot to please you guys like changing the charter and kicking loads of corps. Tho you when u had Priory in your alliance you ignored the fax they were shooting ISS when they shouldnĘt.
The diplomats and leadership of IAC is totally immature and arrogant. Who ever believe what IAC say against ISS are nubs and end of. So please stop smacking and making your self like fools! Making EVE look like wow for crying out loud
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Vando
Umbra Congregatio
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.27 15:04:00 -
[122]
Originally by: celous
What did count fail on? nothing. They tried to sort it out but as you guys act like teenagers and totally arrogant.
And how exactly would you know this in such detail as to be making statements of fact?
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celous
Caldari
Dark Skyes
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Posted - 2007.02.27 15:12:00 -
[123]
Originally by: Vando
Originally by: celous
What did count fail on? nothing. They tried to sort it out but as you guys act like teenagers and totally arrogant.
And how exactly would you know this in such detail as to be making statements of fact?
Does people not have no RL friends these days?
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Vando
Umbra Congregatio
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.27 15:15:00 -
[124]
Originally by: celous
Does people not have no RL friends these days?
Ah, so you mean Count told you. Do you not see the flaw where the person accused of being economical with the truth may, just may, not be telling you the full story?
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celous
Caldari
Dark Skyes
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Posted - 2007.02.27 15:21:00 -
[125]
Originally by: Vando
Originally by: celous
Does people not have no RL friends these days?
Ah, so you mean Count told you. Do you not see the flaw where the person accused of being economical with the truth may, just may, not be telling you the full story?
i am not Count RL friend! Tho way you trying to twist this is funny and not very smart is it? Why do i bother even trying to talk to IAC. Pls go back to your toys. People who belive IAC are nubs and blind. You guys talk like people who play WOW childish and immature. I done with this thread. Just shows IAC talking out of there arse really.
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Camilo Cienfuegos
Caldari
ISS Navy Task Force
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.02.27 15:34:00 -
[126]
Quote:
I think the point has been discussed enough that everyone will be able to make up their own mind. You're quite entitled to your opinion, as the whole thing is down to personal valuations of this recapture. It is a success, no question. But IAC reserve the right to cast doubts as to the overall effectiveness of this success.
/signed
For the record, if you're not already then get yourself a diplomatic position; you speak with eloquence and dignity.
GF's IAC & KOS, here's to many more.
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Layla Currie
Followers Of Darkness
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Posted - 2007.02.27 15:41:00 -
[127]
Originally by: celous
Originally by: Vando
Originally by: celous
Does people not have no RL friends these days?
Ah, so you mean Count told you. Do you not see the flaw where the person accused of being economical with the truth may, just may, not be telling you the full story?
i am not Count RL friend! Tho way you trying to twist this is funny and not very smart is it? Why do i bother even trying to talk to IAC. Pls go back to your toys. People who belive IAC are nubs and blind. You guys talk like people who play WOW childish and immature. I done with this thread. Just shows IAC talking out of there arse really.
you show the absolute pinnacle of matureness with words like "nub". I have to say you speak some awesome engrish. 5 dolla for some isku?
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Vando
Umbra Congregatio
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.27 15:44:00 -
[128]
Originally by: Camilo Cienfuegos
GF's IAC & KOS, here's to many more.
Same to you
And the eloquence of my argument does tend to disappear when drunk, luckily today I'm the designated driver, gogo sobriety
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr
Umbra Congregatio
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.27 18:26:00 -
[129]
Sadly IAC has very low resistance to flamebait such as the OP contains, that said, I don't agree with a lot of other people about Count being a poor leader, I think he's mostly a good one who has made several massive mistakes in inter-alliance relations.
It took a lot of disrespect and insults to deteriorate friendly relations between IAC and ISS to the point where war became inevitable.
Ofc that's nothing compared to what Count did to anger AAA
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Wylker
Caldari
Pyrrhus Sicarii
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Posted - 2007.02.27 18:39:00 -
[130]
Posted 2/26:
Originally by: Kaylana Syi
I also find it pretty funny you are calling us diplomats... really clues you in to how clueless you are about the internals of IAC.
Posted 2/27:
Originally by: Kaylana Syi
If you want to maintain a NAP with IAC you will not use NBSI in our space. The moment you do... you will be set to red.
For someone who isn't a diplomat, you continue to make awful "official representative" types of posts on these forums. Did you mean to say that you wern't diplomatic? Because that is 100% true. Or maybe you just say whatever is convenient for you in order to justify the bulls**t spewing from your pie hole. Hrm.
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Thoric Frosthammer
The Syndicate Inc
INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.02.27 18:50:00 -
[131]
Originally by: Wylker
Or maybe you just say whatever is convenient for you in order to justify the bulls**t spewing from your pie hole. Hrm.
I'm never sure whether he's talking about himself or someone else when he makes statements like that.
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Vando
Umbra Congregatio
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.27 22:00:00 -
[132]
Originally by: Wylker
Posted 2/26:
Originally by: Kaylana Syi
I also find it pretty funny you are calling us diplomats... really clues you in to how clueless you are about the internals of IAC.
Posted 2/27:
Originally by: Kaylana Syi
If you want to maintain a NAP with IAC you will not use NBSI in our space. The moment you do... you will be set to red.
For someone who isn't a diplomat, you continue to make awful "official representative" types of posts on these forums. Did you mean to say that you wern't diplomatic? Because that is 100% true. Or maybe you just say whatever is convenient for you in order to justify the bulls**t spewing from your pie hole. Hrm.
Alternatively Kay could simply be passing on the official IAC policy which all of our members are aware of.
I do wish people would think a little before jumping to these conclusions, I really do
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Abn Matar
Minmatar
Genco
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.02.27 23:54:00 -
[133]
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
Sadly IAC has very low resistance to flamebait such as the OP contains, that said, I don't agree with a lot of other people about Count being a poor leader, I think he's mostly a good one who has made several massive mistakes in inter-alliance relations.
It took a lot of disrespect and insults to deteriorate friendly relations between IAC and ISS to the point where war became inevitable.
Ofc that's nothing compared to what Count did to anger AAA
So, what youre saying is we need to loot more Centum Thermic Hardeners?
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